I just realize after watching this a couple times the reason why he’s saying and doing all these things to King George is to try to get him to react to help him to breakout of his shell. Genius!
I knew an elite psychotherapist, one of the very best of my country. If a prime-minister's daughter would suffer from panic attacks he would be the one to treat her. And he was doing a similar thing to all his clients although it would be different in tone from what Lionel does. The man I knew, he would always play hard to get with those people, he always made sure they would put some effort into getting him to treat them. One the reasons might be because it's a way to establish his authority. Another, even more important reason would be the fact that he would treat only those people, who were very motivated. So they had to convince him they were worthy of his time. Also I think it makes clients appreciate the therapy more. Especially when it comes to rich clients, who don't value high the things, which can be easily brought.
I knew an elite psychotherapist, one of the very best of my country. If a prime-minister's daughter would suffer from panic attacks he would be the one to treat her. And he was doing a similar thing to all his clients although it would be different in tone from what Lionel does. The man I knew, he would always play hard to get with those people, he always made sure they would put some effort into getting him to treat them. One the reasons might be because it's a way to establish his authority. Another, even more important reason would be the fact that he would treat only those people, who were very motivated. So they had to convince him they were worthy of his time. Also I think it makes clients appreciate the therapy more. Especially when it comes to rich clients, who don't value high the things, which can be easily brought.
@@mariak809 Whether it's a joke depends on how you see the situation. Since he has barely any control over his stuttering, he'd ruin all jokes that depend on timing. Can be seen as funny. I just see a totally desperate, tortured soul in that scene. Someone who's absolutely helpless, deeply suffering, alienated from almost everybody else, so I don't see it as a funny scene, actually. I feel for him because I can relate. Stuttering isn't the only thing that shuts you up.
Colin Firth really had to do his homework on how those with stutters act and sound along with the actual king. There are different stutters but making it seem real, like he's been battling it all his life and showing the toll it's brought on his emotions and confidence takes a skilled actor.
Absolutely! He didn’t seem like he was mimicking. It was almost as if the role DIDNT call for a stammer and he was naturally having difficulties. Christ he’s a great actor!
I read somewhere that Colin ended up getting migraines due the fact that preforming the stammer was tensing his body up. Not to mention the numbness he contacted in his left arm. Talk about suffering for the sake of art.
Rumor has it that the stammer stayed with him for a quite while after filming to the point he had to go to a speech therapist to cure it. Fortunately the stammering was pretty mild and easy to cure.
Very interesting quirks to his stammer: certain phrases that are commonly linked are said with ease, no matter their length. "No, thank you" "How are you?" "Until next time" He also doesn't stammer when he's angry and momentarily forgets his speech issues. These are indeed common features of stammers, and partly how you know its purely psychological.
Tourette’s is another example of a disorder where the state of mind affects the speech. You’ll notice if they talk about something they are absolutely passionate or focused on, then they won’t tic. It is as if the tics are coming from the spare capacity in the brain. Makes you realise how much of our ease of thinking is an illusion.
What's really interesting is when you rewatch it you can tell Lionel is purposefully trying to get certain reactions or say certain things so he can see what's easy and what's hard for Albert to say.
He received the Academy Award for best actor for this movie in 2010. Look at how difficult his lines and facial expressions and body language were, to imitate a stutter, and to vacilate between inner turmoil and insecurity and lack of confidence, and putting a strong outward face on his royal and regal status. Even his angry outbursts were great to watch. And the personal touches such as toying with a model airplane. First-rate performance. (At the time of this writing TH-cam is streaming this film "free with ads"; you can watch it all you like.)
@@evm6177 No. In ALL cinematic history. As the poster above you pointed out it is very difficult to recreate that stutter and body language so realistically. in Very rarely have I come across such a performance in my life.
I read that the production company trying to get it made breached etiquette and sent the script directly to Geoffrey Rush's house rather than through his agent. The agent apparently bollocked them for it then said Geoffrey Rush was interested and were invited to meet with him to discuss it!
@@MasterfulKane Geoffrey Rush should have won an Oscar for this he was fantastic in this film! He and Colin are a great match its like watching them build a friendship because they were working so closely together
Poor Bertie, was left in the care of a sadistic nanny. He lost his younger brother who he adored, and his father was a bully to him (although at the same time always wanted him to be king rather than his older brother). His stammer was the manifestation of a nervous disposition (although he was far from being a coward, very accomplished military record). He wasn’t perfect but he cared deeply for his country and was a steadying influence on Winston Churchill who he considered as much a friend as a prime minister.
@@Jack_The_Ladd back then that wouldn’t have been considered abuse. My late mum born in 1950 who was naturally left handed was instructed at school to write with her right hand so as a result became ambidextrous
What’s so brilliant about Firth’s performance (and the script of course) is that while he hesitates to speak and holds back all he time, you can hear his thinking all the same. All the time.
I remember in a film class I took the teacher was discussing emotional cues, and they specifically said “whenever you see a character put on a kettle, you’re almost certain to see something intense in a few seconds.” He wasn’t lying lol
Daniel u and many other people stutter or stammer but u are very very normal you just. Have a slight issue with your brain and mouth or words don't match up or somewords don't form as they should
We all have our touches, ADD and Dyslexia didn’t make it easy for me either, but these aren’t what define us. It is our steel will to overcome WHATEVER stands in our path that makes us unique; singles us out.
My own sister and s friend stammer. Yet both learnt how to control it. U can surely master it too. However, stammering does not make anybody abnormal. It is cruel people who need to Mock others to feel better about their own shortage of human decency.
@@lufsolitaire5351its Aussie slang for brits yeah, I think it comes from one of the French nicknames for the British; Pomme de Terre (potato) from all the potatoes we eat
13 years after this was posted, it came up in feed, Never saw movie, as it was about royals, So as a Australian I can say we usually call them something else ...
Thats kind of it isnt it. He has such respect for titles and honorifics, trying to be relaxed and casual is impossible, especially when everyone around you expects you to be a certain way. When he's angry the whole pretense goes out the window and he's able to speak his mind because he doesnt care about it. When he hears his voice he's reminded of his problem, feels terrified that people are seeing him as something less than the royalty he is. SO much pressure its not surprising speech cant come out
Even subtly in this scene, when the teacher was needling him, the stutter vanished. "How about Bertie?" And the king's face hardens a bit, and he replies, "Only my family call me that." Not a hint of a stutter.
Just thinking the same. Slowly poking at him to see what emotions make him stammer and what doesn’t! So so clever that when he gets cross he can speak flawlessly.
“I’ve always been this way. Don’t tell me it’s my stammer” No matter how times I watch this scene I just want to hug Colin. He hit it out of the park with this role. As someone who’s stammered for as long as I can remember I can relate to this so much.
Even before modern science, it seemed like common sense, but doctors and medicine at the time were more “old school” and “dark” to put it mildly. It used to be acceptable to give lobotomies to shell shocked soldiers or fry their brains with electrodes. We didn’t start calling it ptsd until around the Vietnam war era, and even today, people still struggle to talk about it. And I’m a neurologist. You can suffer the horrors of war back then, be called a hero, and then for your troubles get your brain fried instead of being allowed to talk about it in safe manner.
Having the Crown thrust upon him in the midst of England once again entering war with Germany certainly didn't help much, but there's no question the 30-40 cigarettes a day he smoked killed him. People try to say that unexpectedly being King as good as killed him, but that's a load of bull if you ask me.
@@Shadowdoc26 Many things which seem like they ought to be common sense are intellectualized all out of true until up is down, left is right, and toxic & carcinogenic is relaxing to the throat & beneficial to the spleen or whatever doctors used to say cigarettes helped with. It always fascinates me how certain mistakes originate with the educated and intelligent as they are the ones best capable of rationalizing the obvious into its opposite...and of course the rest of us follow their lead because of the faith we put in their capabilities and credentials.
I once knew a woman who had a long time stammer. And you could tell she hated it and the frustration and anger that would build up when speaking the most simple of sentences. I don't stammer myself but I do have many a times where my mind just can't focus on a simple thought so I stay silent or take a while to answer. Patience is such a virtue given to so few.
The subtext is so good. He didn't say perfect to him explaining that his family only calls him Berty, but that someone calling him Berty that is not his family enrages him to the point of perfect speech. Perfect.
This scene is awesome in so many ways. Even beyond the issue of stammering look how the doctor relates to the king. He sets the tone for the meeting. The Doctor sets the boundary and is firm yet humble and empathetic to the situation. My house my rules he says. If only I could set this tone in my own life.
As someone who is studying to become a therapist, Logue is who I want to be like with my patients. Kind, warm, encouraging, and firm in my belief in their potential.
Royalty were probably done a tremendous disservice by those who served them for fear of angering the powerful...and Royalty did themselves a tremendous disservice by only putting up with what they wanted to hear. Whether exactly true or not, Lionel didn't buckle to the pressure. "It's my field...", "In here it's better if we're equals..." and "My castle my rules..." One of Rush's best performances!
Joe K I think it’s because Lionel had nothing to lose and he could see past that. He’s still a human being like the rest of us, and still can suffer problems like the rest of us, such as stammering. Best case, Lionel does his job and helps another person overcome their impediment and makes a friend for life which he did. Worst case, he just loses a patient. Plenty more where that came from. It’s not like the king would have his head cut off in the 20th century for something that small.
An Herculean effort. Two amazing actors at odds for a common goal, giving studied, metered performances. The entire film is exemplary. A good story, written well and presented with great care. True Cinema...
Amazing movie. Yoga and breathing with my stomach has helped my stuttering soooooooo much. I can't believe speech therapist never mentioned anything about it. Im 36 years old.
As a stutterer, the ending is the most important. The battle is never over, but only about accepting it as a part of who you are, and using that frustration and perseverance as your fire to live extraordinarily. The scars and shame never really go away, there’s no moment where everything becomes alright. It’s simply about finding your voice in a world that hasn’t cared to hear it, nor would understand the pain.
And his climactic dialogue - 'well I had to throw in a few, so they know it was from me!' epitomises his acceptance of his condition and to live with it without remorse or guilt.
@@pteppig I've always wondered why British rooms look like that, well in films at least. In the film, Darkest Hour, the room where the King and Churchill met also looked moldy. I wonder if that's a British thing.
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@@ArchTazer I think it's just realistic. American films show the past as very clean and glamourous but the past was dirty has hell.
I stutter since my childhood, some days are better than others. I think self confidence is the most important thing, if I where insecure I am sure my stuttering would devour me, and make me limit how I live my life. It is a hard situation, my heart goes out to my fellow stutterers. This is the first media I’ve seen presenting a person who stutters without mocking them, I appreciate it. And to all that stutter like me; I will say what my mother tells me “Speak when you want to speak, if someone does not want to hear you, that is their lost!”
* Its mouth. ("It's" is a contraction of "it is," and "what it is mouth is doing" makes no sense.) * Princes. ("Prince's" means something belonging to one prince, as in "That is the prince's car.")
Considering that Bertie died in 1952 at the ripe old age of 56 from too much smoking (which his doctors encouraged because, as shown in the film, they thought it would help his speech), Logue had a point.
I think of this scene every time I watch the episode where Lord Grantham choses Sir Phillip over Dr. Clarkson as Sybill's doctor and then she dies. Such a sad episode.
I have stuttered pretty bad my whole life so I showed my partner this movie so they could understand how unbelievably frustrating it is to not be able to speak sometimes and how humiliating it can be. And I'm not sure some people understand how demoralizing it really is. Imagine trying to say a sentence but half way through the sentence stop for 3-10 seconds and don't say anything. That's how frustrating it is. Depending on many factors it can get even worse. King George VI was a very brave man.
One of the benefits of the modern peerage system, often overlooked by self-righteous egalitarians, is that it ejects from public life many who have outlived their usefulness or never been useful, without expressly disgracing them. The English use the expression "getting kicked upstairs." Honors remain just that, honors, to those who have never held power - but to those who have held power, honors are a frilly pink slip. Like so much else in the British system, it's absurdly idiosyncratic yet oddly effective.
Physicians have always been crazy! Now, like then, they were all about what makes money. Only thing more certain to pay well other than human suffering is burying them afterwards.
Interesting choice in the way these shots are framed. I heard Tom Hooper purposefully had it filmed this way to create some sense of confusion and distance based on the emotional and psychological feelings that Albert was going through due to his stutter.
His face when hes proposing to call him Bertie made me weak, the balls on the doctor and how Bertie knew he cant fight him with stuttered is hilarious.
3:50 "One of my many faults." Bertie is a gentle soul for a royalty. Once his fault was pointed out, he immediately admits it. Not many of them can do that.
If you read up on The Kings Speech about why they did the wall that way, you know it was on purpose. Its in one of the TH-cam videos about it. I just cant remember why it was like that. I think to show how poor Logue was and he couldnt afford to repair the walls from old Wallpaper and paint etc. Sorry I just cant remember why they did it.
found this on wikipedia The crew investigated Logue's former consultation rooms, but they were too small to film in. Instead, they found a high, vaulted room not far away in 33 Portland Place. Eve Stewart, the production designer, liked the mottled, peeling wallpaper there so much that she recreated the effect throughout the entire room. In his DVD commentary, Hooper said he liked Portland Place as a set because it felt "lived-in", unlike other period houses in London. The scenes of the Duke of York at home with his family were also filmed here; showing the Prince living in a townhouse "subverted" expectations of a royal drama.[13]
Lionel's diary of his time with the king was made available to the director 6 weeks before shooting, buy Lionel's grandson. Nobody knew it existed til then. "You stammered on the W.... I threw that in so they would know it was me" is in his diary.
Not odd at all. One thing I liked about this scene was the room itself, very spartan yet beautiful, especially the wonderful medley of colors in the wall behind the sofa.
I like how Lionel insists they address each other on first names because he wants to treat Prince Albert like a person and as a way of saying "Here you can shed the stress, weight and responsibilities of royalty and be yourself.". I also like how when Lionel has Albert read Hamlet, he doesn't say anything and allows Albert to take his time and go at his own pace and shows patience, an exact opposite of King George V who showed impatience when he had Albert try the Christmas speech.
Love the way the camera is framing the characters and their surroundings Lionel for example has a background of a warm home with a heart warming a nice tea, reflecting his desire to bring comfort and keep things between them equal Meanwhile "Bertie" has an old couch lined with gold and surrounded by chaos, nothing can come out from that collage of amorphous colorful splatters, a projection of his lineage, old and important, and the chaos his mind has to deal that not even a word is easily found
Lionel: "Oh, surely a prince's brain knows what its mouth's doing?" King George VI : "You're not... well acquainted with royal princes, are you?" I thought the king said timing wasn't his strong suit. 😂😂😂
We don't know the details of the actual treatment, as Logue didn't keep records of it (probably at the insistence of the Royal Family), but the guy who worked on the script* had a stammer himself when he was a kid and took therapy to get rid of it, so he had Logue apply something close to modern speech therapy in the film. * George VI was the script-writer's idol, so the film was a passion project for him.
Absolutely!!! That wall is exquisite. So much so, in fact, that in one shot they show Bertie sitting on the sofa to the left, and the right-hand side of the frame is devoted to the wall. It's supposed to look like ten layers of cracked and chipped off paint, but it's a beautifully striking montage of colors.
The subtlety of that first entry- Lionel's instinct to bow, before remembering that he has to keep a casual atmosphere with Bertie, so he hides it has a nod of greeting. Superbly done by Rush.
The framing of this scene is underrated.... They are mirrored between cuts despite Colin's character sitting on the left side of the couch. This lends discomfort to Colin's role while also establishing the report they'll have with each other throughout the movie.
“I haven’t agreed to take you on yet”. That confidence to a Royal is spectacular.
Absolute idgaf
I just realize after watching this a couple times the reason why he’s saying and doing all these things to King George is to try to get him to react to help him to breakout of his shell. Genius!
I knew an elite psychotherapist, one of the very best of my country. If a prime-minister's daughter would suffer from panic attacks he would be the one to treat her. And he was doing a similar thing to all his clients although it would be different in tone from what Lionel does. The man I knew, he would always play hard to get with those people, he always made sure they would put some effort into getting him to treat them. One the reasons might be because it's a way to establish his authority. Another, even more important reason would be the fact that he would treat only those people, who were very motivated. So they had to convince him they were worthy of his time. Also I think it makes clients appreciate the therapy more. Especially when it comes to rich clients, who don't value high the things, which can be easily brought.
I knew an elite psychotherapist, one of the very best of my country. If a prime-minister's daughter would suffer from panic attacks he would be the one to treat her. And he was doing a similar thing to all his clients although it would be different in tone from what Lionel does. The man I knew, he would always play hard to get with those people, he always made sure they would put some effort into getting him to treat them. One the reasons might be because it's a way to establish his authority. Another, even more important reason would be the fact that he would treat only those people, who were very motivated. So they had to convince him they were worthy of his time. Also I think it makes clients appreciate the therapy more. Especially when it comes to rich clients, who don't value high the things, which can be easily brought.
Lionel: "Know any jokes?"
Bertie: "....... Timing isn't my strong suit."
I just couldn't stop laughing at this. One of the funniest deliveries ever.
Sorry, could someone explain what the joke is? English is not my first language
@@mariak809 The timing and pace of the punchline of a joke is its most important part. Stuttering the punch line would ruin the joke.
Ironic
In itself he made a joke right there. Brilliant.
@@mariak809 Whether it's a joke depends on how you see the situation. Since he has barely any control over his stuttering, he'd ruin all jokes that depend on timing. Can be seen as funny. I just see a totally desperate, tortured soul in that scene. Someone who's absolutely helpless, deeply suffering, alienated from almost everybody else, so I don't see it as a funny scene, actually. I feel for him because I can relate. Stuttering isn't the only thing that shuts you up.
"...t....timing isn't my strong suit." He could crack that one in any place and have the room rolling in laughter.
“Makes it official, then”
It was at that moment I realised that’s Captain Barbossa
Literally thaught the exact same when I saw that and then I saw this comment at exactly that point
@@vaughanmclea6907 same here 🤣
Aye jack
“What arrr ye doin?”
Wait WHAT
Colin Firth really had to do his homework on how those with stutters act and sound along with the actual king. There are different stutters but making it seem real, like he's been battling it all his life and showing the toll it's brought on his emotions and confidence takes a skilled actor.
Absolutely! He didn’t seem like he was mimicking. It was almost as if the role DIDNT call for a stammer and he was naturally having difficulties. Christ he’s a great actor!
@@CronoXpono on
I read somewhere that Colin ended up getting migraines due the fact that preforming the stammer was tensing his body up. Not to mention the numbness he contacted in his left arm. Talk about suffering for the sake of art.
Rumor has it that the stammer stayed with him for a quite while after filming to the point he had to go to a speech therapist to cure it. Fortunately the stammering was pretty mild and easy to cure.
I have had a stutter since i was a child and i felt oddly represented by this english actor playing a dead king, so i would day it works.
"They've all been knighted."
"...Makes it official then."
LMAO
Love this quote
They were right though. Smoking does relax, that's why people do that. It has, unfortunately, some... side effects.
that's why there are so many idiots all over the world then.... I suppose
Best joke in the whole movie
But more importantly, the worst side effect is the amount of money being spent annually.
Very interesting quirks to his stammer: certain phrases that are commonly linked are said with ease, no matter their length.
"No, thank you"
"How are you?"
"Until next time"
He also doesn't stammer when he's angry and momentarily forgets his speech issues.
These are indeed common features of stammers, and partly how you know its purely psychological.
Tourette’s is another example of a disorder where the state of mind affects the speech. You’ll notice if they talk about something they are absolutely passionate or focused on, then they won’t tic. It is as if the tics are coming from the spare capacity in the brain.
Makes you realise how much of our ease of thinking is an illusion.
What's really interesting is when you rewatch it you can tell Lionel is purposefully trying to get certain reactions or say certain things so he can see what's easy and what's hard for Albert to say.
I used to work with a guy with a terrible stammer, that would vanish when he got really mad.
Noticed that when Lionel asked to call him Bertie. He was so caught off guard that he got through "Only my family uses that" with no problem.
Armchair speech-pathologists are cringe.
Colin Firth has given one of the best performances in cinematic history in this film
He received the Academy Award for best actor for this movie in 2010. Look at how difficult his lines and facial expressions and body language were, to imitate a stutter, and to vacilate between inner turmoil and insecurity and lack of confidence, and putting a strong outward face on his royal and regal status. Even his angry outbursts were great to watch. And the personal touches such as toying with a model airplane. First-rate performance. (At the time of this writing TH-cam is streaming this film "free with ads"; you can watch it all you like.)
🍷You should mean his cinematic history probably! LOL..
@@evm6177 No. In ALL cinematic history. As the poster above you pointed out it is very difficult to recreate that stutter and body language so realistically. in Very rarely have I come across such a performance in my life.
My left foot was more impressive
@@KMC544 Brainless comment.
Geoffrey Rush should've won an Oscar for this film.
Hands down.
Absolutely.
I read that the production company trying to get it made breached etiquette and sent the script directly to Geoffrey Rush's house rather than through his agent. The agent apparently bollocked them for it then said Geoffrey Rush was interested and were invited to meet with him to discuss it!
@@wickedwitchoftheeast88 and a classic was produced months later.
@@MasterfulKane Geoffrey Rush should have won an Oscar for this he was fantastic in this film! He and Colin are a great match its like watching them build a friendship because they were working so closely together
Didnt he?
"Well surely a prince's brain knows what his mouth is doing!"
"You're not well-acquainted with other princes are you?"
Bertie has ALL the jokes.
"Royal princes" not other.
Poor Bertie, was left in the care of a sadistic nanny. He lost his younger brother who he adored, and his father was a bully to him (although at the same time always wanted him to be king rather than his older brother). His stammer was the manifestation of a nervous disposition (although he was far from being a coward, very accomplished military record). He wasn’t perfect but he cared deeply for his country and was a steadying influence on Winston Churchill who he considered as much a friend as a prime minister.
I read that his stammer was caused by being forced to use his right-hand even thought he was naturally a leftie
God bless England
@@Jack_The_Ladd back then that wouldn’t have been considered abuse. My late mum born in 1950 who was naturally left handed was instructed at school to write with her right hand so as a result became ambidextrous
I didnt know he served in the military. Now I have even more respect for him
@@Jack_The_Ladd hence the music
What’s so brilliant about Firth’s performance (and the script of course) is that while he hesitates to speak and holds back all he time, you can hear his thinking all the same. All the time.
I remember in a film class I took the teacher was discussing emotional cues, and they specifically said “whenever you see a character put on a kettle, you’re almost certain to see something intense in a few seconds.” He wasn’t lying lol
The chemistry between Firth and Rush was just brilliant. One of the best and most realistic film collaborations in recent memory.
Historical accuracies aside, as a stammer, this movie showed me that other people was stammers too, even kings. Made me feel normal.
Not just kings but the current president-elect of the USA (Joe Biden) stammers/stutters. You’re in good company Mr. Thunberg 😉
Daniel u and many other people stutter or stammer but u are very very normal you just. Have a slight issue with your brain and mouth or words don't match up or somewords don't form as they should
We all have our touches, ADD and Dyslexia didn’t make it easy for me either, but these aren’t what define us.
It is our steel will to overcome WHATEVER stands in our path that makes us unique; singles us out.
My own sister and s friend stammer. Yet both learnt how to control it. U can surely master it too. However, stammering does not make anybody abnormal. It is cruel people who need to Mock
others to feel better about their own shortage of human decency.
*stammerer *were *stammerers
"i have no idea what an Australian might do for that sort of money"
damn, what a burn. lol.
Put it toward the effort to pull the pommies out of the shit in WW2 and save their butts. Just like the king's.
@@johnstenton6023 m8 thats retarded
@@johnstenton6023is pommies the nickname Aussies give to Brits from the home islands in general or is it just aimed at the upper class?
@@lufsolitaire5351its Aussie slang for brits yeah, I think it comes from one of the French nicknames for the British; Pomme de Terre (potato) from all the potatoes we eat
Loved that one. Especially "that sort of money" 😂💀
Insisting on calling the prince Bertie was very Australian.
13 years after this was posted, it came up in feed, Never saw movie, as it was about royals, So as a Australian I can say we usually call them something else ...
@@James_T_Quirk ngl attitudes like these as insufferable as you probably think royals are. And before you start, I’m Latin American 🙄
@@VV-er3zg Start What ? Your allowed to be Stupid, as it has no national boundaries ...
I used to studder when I was a kid myself. My mother was wise enough to send me to a speech therapist. I thank her for that... Dearly..
I almost was sent to a speech therapist. I don't know what happened that made me improve enough to not go
Good job mate, you've obviously improved a lot since then, only a little stutter at the end of your comment, well done!
Mom knows best .
*stutter
God bless your mother.
Every person of high authority, or status, needs someone like this. Someone to challenge them. To say you are not as the world sees you.
And also to say the world is not how you see it.
Thats kind of it isnt it. He has such respect for titles and honorifics, trying to be relaxed and casual is impossible, especially when everyone around you expects you to be a certain way. When he's angry the whole pretense goes out the window and he's able to speak his mind because he doesnt care about it. When he hears his voice he's reminded of his problem, feels terrified that people are seeing him as something less than the royalty he is. SO much pressure its not surprising speech cant come out
Even subtly in this scene, when the teacher was needling him, the stutter vanished. "How about Bertie?" And the king's face hardens a bit, and he replies, "Only my family call me that." Not a hint of a stutter.
it's brilliant writing and acting
Just thinking the same. Slowly poking at him to see what emotions make him stammer and what doesn’t!
So so clever that when he gets cross he can speak flawlessly.
Such a great scene! And Lionel is proving his point by provoking "Bertie" to anger and showing him he can overcome his stutter
I love how much tension there is in this scene... It's so brilliantly done.
That room is exquisite. The ceiling made of glass and iron, the stately fireplace, the wallpaper, the light fixtures, all beautiful.
That wallpaper! What a mess.
@@timjohnson1199 i think it adds character to the room. Subtle hues balanced nicely with the right amount of patina.
Totally agree
Yes, the set design is simply brilliant..
“I’ve always been this way. Don’t tell me it’s my stammer”
No matter how times I watch this scene I just want to hug Colin. He hit it out of the park with this role. As someone who’s stammered for as long as I can remember I can relate to this so much.
Lionel: " I believe sucking smoke into your lungs will kill you". Well, unfortunately he was right
Even before modern science, it seemed like common sense, but doctors and medicine at the time were more “old school” and “dark” to put it mildly. It used to be acceptable to give lobotomies to shell shocked soldiers or fry their brains with electrodes. We didn’t start calling it ptsd until around the Vietnam war era, and even today, people still struggle to talk about it. And I’m a neurologist. You can suffer the horrors of war back then, be called a hero, and then for your troubles get your brain fried instead of being allowed to talk about it in safe manner.
Having the Crown thrust upon him in the midst of England once again entering war with Germany certainly didn't help much, but there's no question the 30-40 cigarettes a day he smoked killed him. People try to say that unexpectedly being King as good as killed him, but that's a load of bull if you ask me.
@@perfectajo in a way it did, because the only reason he smoked was to ease his mind to get through the speeches he had to give as part of being king
I believe that we all are destined to die! Thank you...
@@Shadowdoc26 Many things which seem like they ought to be common sense are intellectualized all out of true until up is down, left is right, and toxic & carcinogenic is relaxing to the throat & beneficial to the spleen or whatever doctors used to say cigarettes helped with. It always fascinates me how certain mistakes originate with the educated and intelligent as they are the ones best capable of rationalizing the obvious into its opposite...and of course the rest of us follow their lead because of the faith we put in their capabilities and credentials.
“They’ve all been knighted.” “That makes it official then.” 🤣
I once knew a woman who had a long time stammer. And you could tell she hated it and the frustration and anger that would build up when speaking the most simple of sentences. I don't stammer myself but I do have many a times where my mind just can't focus on a simple thought so I stay silent or take a while to answer. Patience is such a virtue given to so few.
I used to pick up people stutter if I was around them long enough.
Geoffrey Rush is an amazing actor!
The subtext is so good. He didn't say perfect to him explaining that his family only calls him Berty, but that someone calling him Berty that is not his family enrages him to the point of perfect speech. Perfect.
Bertie. Sorry I'm a grammer Nazi.
@@Bertiesghost it’s all good.
@@Bertiesghost Grammar
@@Chris-cc6wj ooohhhhhhh
@@Bertiesghost you got done did.
Glad to see Captain Barbossa survived until the 1920s and started a new life as a vocal coach
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He also found the Fountain of Youth before his career switch.
I was amazed at how much I enjoyed this movie. Just when you think you're so jaded that films can't surprise you anymore, along comes one like this.
This scene is awesome in so many ways. Even beyond the issue of stammering look how the doctor relates to the king. He sets the tone for the meeting. The Doctor sets the boundary and is firm yet humble and empathetic to the situation. My house my rules he says. If only I could set this tone in my own life.
He is not a doctor, and Lionel insists not to be called doctor by saying "I prefer Lionel".
As someone who is studying to become a therapist, Logue is who I want to be like with my patients. Kind, warm, encouraging, and firm in my belief in their potential.
Royalty were probably done a tremendous disservice by those who served them for fear of angering the powerful...and Royalty did themselves a tremendous disservice by only putting up with what they wanted to hear.
Whether exactly true or not, Lionel didn't buckle to the pressure. "It's my field...", "In here it's better if we're equals..." and "My castle my rules..."
One of Rush's best performances!
"I haven't agreed to take you on."
Joe K I think it’s because Lionel had nothing to lose and he could see past that. He’s still a human being like the rest of us, and still can suffer problems like the rest of us, such as stammering. Best case, Lionel does his job and helps another person overcome their impediment and makes a friend for life which he did. Worst case, he just loses a patient. Plenty more where that came from. It’s not like the king would have his head cut off in the 20th century for something that small.
Goosebumps till the end. My lesson learned. In life u need one person who believes in you. Never give up.
An Herculean effort. Two amazing actors at odds for a common goal, giving studied, metered performances. The entire film is exemplary. A good story, written well and presented with great care.
True Cinema...
Amazing movie. Yoga and breathing with my stomach has helped my stuttering soooooooo much. I can't believe speech therapist never mentioned anything about it. Im 36 years old.
As a stutterer, the ending is the most important. The battle is never over, but only about accepting it as a part of who you are, and using that frustration and perseverance as your fire to live extraordinarily. The scars and shame never really go away, there’s no moment where everything becomes alright. It’s simply about finding your voice in a world that hasn’t cared to hear it, nor would understand the pain.
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And his climactic dialogue - 'well I had to throw in a few, so they know it was from me!' epitomises his acceptance of his condition and to live with it without remorse or guilt.
I love that room... That fireplace is so gorgeous. That ceiling... Lovely.
I once worked for a DVM/PhD with a less severe stammer. He was one of the brightest and kindest people I've ever met, it was a privilege.
The composition in this scene made such an impression on me. The isolation, thought, confusion, realisation, hope.
Just stunning.
Yeah it kind of goes against all the rules of cinematography, but succeeds in creating an uncomfortable vibe.
Idk why this was recommended but thats a dope room
Indeed. Very strong atmosphere old gothich and artistic reminds me Poe or Conan Doyle
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It looks moldy
@@pteppig I've always wondered why British rooms look like that, well in films at least. In the film, Darkest Hour, the room where the King and Churchill met also looked moldy. I wonder if that's a British thing.
@@ArchTazer I think it's just realistic. American films show the past as very clean and glamourous but the past was dirty has hell.
An incredible film and these two were absolutely brilliant.
I've never noticed before how the director made the shoots. Putting the characters to a far side, the color of the wall, the chimney, just beautiful.
Mercy and compassion are powerful agents.
Extremely powerful. ✝️❤
I stutter since my childhood, some days are better than others. I think self confidence is the most important thing, if I where insecure I am sure my stuttering would devour me, and make me limit how I live my life. It is a hard situation, my heart goes out to my fellow stutterers. This is the first media I’ve seen presenting a person who stutters without mocking them, I appreciate it. And to all that stutter like me; I will say what my mother tells me “Speak when you want to speak, if someone does not want to hear you, that is their lost!”
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"I believe a prince's brain knows what it's mouth's doing".
"You're not acquainted with many prince's are you?"
Haha!
* Its mouth. ("It's" is a contraction of "it is," and "what it is mouth is doing" makes no sense.)
* Princes. ("Prince's" means something belonging to one prince, as in "That is the prince's car.")
@@seikibrian8641 In regard to your first correction, it should be: "* its mouth's."
@@MeansofIntrigue Thank you. Corrected.
"They are idiots."
"They've all been knighted."
"Makes it official then."
Clapback, ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah, that quick comeback was perfect.
Considering that Bertie died in 1952 at the ripe old age of 56 from too much smoking (which his doctors encouraged because, as shown in the film, they thought it would help his speech), Logue had a point.
I think of this scene every time I watch the episode where Lord Grantham choses Sir Phillip over Dr. Clarkson as Sybill's doctor and then she dies. Such a sad episode.
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If only George listened
"My castle my rules"
"Well I guess Im taking away your castle then"
Whenever he was struggling with his studder that made me so sad because I can relate.
Facts
I have stuttered pretty bad my whole life so I showed my partner this movie so they could understand how unbelievably frustrating it is to not be able to speak sometimes and how humiliating it can be. And I'm not sure some people understand how demoralizing it really is. Imagine trying to say a sentence but half way through the sentence stop for 3-10 seconds and don't say anything. That's how frustrating it is. Depending on many factors it can get even worse. King George VI was a very brave man.
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He calls him "Sir", as requested.
Ive seen this scene 10x and never noticed, that moment of connection and respect that Lionel makes.
The knighted line always cracks me up. Even to this date it’s still true hahaha
One of the benefits of the modern peerage system, often overlooked by self-righteous egalitarians, is that it ejects from public life many who have outlived their usefulness or never been useful, without expressly disgracing them. The English use the expression "getting kicked upstairs." Honors remain just that, honors, to those who have never held power - but to those who have held power, honors are a frilly pink slip. Like so much else in the British system, it's absurdly idiosyncratic yet oddly effective.
Physicians were crazy thinking that smoking was good for you.
They just didn't know any better.
Just like how Henry Cotton pulled out his patients' and children's teeth believing it was the cause of mental disorders.
A lot of them were also bought out by cigarette companies.
Crazy all the way to the bank.
Physicians have always been crazy! Now, like then, they were all about what makes money. Only thing more certain to pay well other than human suffering is burying them afterwards.
I adore this movie. Great lines, great actors, great story. I can't figure out why people say it did not deserve best picture.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. Captain Barbosa the speech therapist.
The awkwardness of this scene is what makes it so powerful.
The beauty of this film for me is the respectful relationship of two different stations.
Interesting choice in the way these shots are framed. I heard Tom Hooper purposefully had it filmed this way to create some sense of confusion and distance based on the emotional and psychological feelings that Albert was going through due to his stutter.
His face when hes proposing to call him Bertie made me weak, the balls on the doctor and how Bertie knew he cant fight him with stuttered is hilarious.
This is one of the most beautiful movies I’ve ever seen
I love classical music, it just uplifts you really
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"One of my many faults."
Bertie is a gentle soul for a royalty. Once his fault was pointed out, he immediately admits it. Not many of them can do that.
This film is so good. More so when one considers it could have been just another celebration of elitism and royalty.
I'm reading the book. It's very interesting as it goes into Lionels early life too.
* Lionel's.
The music he was listening to was "Marriage of Figaro" by Mozart
Geoffrey Rush was really good in this movie.
Never make my mind whether the wallpaper is falling off due to a damp cellar treatment room, or, if it a brilliant stroke of period art decor ;)
If you read up on The Kings Speech about why they did the wall that way, you know it was on purpose. Its in one of the TH-cam videos about it. I just cant remember why it was like that. I think to show how poor Logue was and he couldnt afford to repair the walls from old Wallpaper and paint etc. Sorry I just cant remember why they did it.
found this on wikipedia
The crew investigated Logue's former consultation rooms, but they were too small to film in. Instead, they found a high, vaulted room not far away in 33 Portland Place. Eve Stewart, the production designer, liked the mottled, peeling wallpaper there so much that she recreated the effect throughout the entire room. In his DVD commentary, Hooper said he liked Portland Place as a set because it felt "lived-in", unlike other period houses in London. The scenes of the Duke of York at home with his family were also filmed here; showing the Prince living in a townhouse "subverted" expectations of a royal drama.[13]
I wondered that myself lol.
A valiant attempt to camouflage a whole wall.
This looks damn good. I'm going to watch the entire movie.
Me too.
Y'all won't be sorry!!!
The academy robbed Rush for not giving him the Oscar. What a performance.
Geoffrey rush is such a brilliant actor ,just a joy to watch and experience .
Lionel is asking the personal questions in order to get a better understanding of the Princes stammer in order to better diagnose.
This film is one of the best films all the hard work to get all the parts so perfect incredible 😊
I love this office. Something so London about it.
great to see Geoffrey Rush win his case against the gutter press.
This was/is a great movie. I may even have it on DVD. Thank you.
One of the best movies ever made. I have the dvd must have watched it at 15 times, great movie❤🤗
Such a wonderful performance ! Go Colin !
"12 pennies"
"I have no idea what an Australian might do for that kind of money."
:-D
Geoffrey rush: *opens the door*
"So what'll it be captain jaaaack? Ooh sorry don't know what came over me then, just a sudden urge to say that."
Lionel's diary of his time with the king was made available to the director 6 weeks before shooting, buy Lionel's grandson. Nobody knew it existed til then.
"You stammered on the W.... I threw that in so they would know it was me" is in his diary.
This might seem odd to say...but I LOVE Lionel's suit! Would love to have one just like it!
Johnjames Bloom Not odd at all. It’s a beautiful example of classic navy double breasted chalkstripe suit.
@@scottlewis775 Many thanks! Now I know what to look for!
Not odd at all. One thing I liked about this scene was the room itself, very spartan yet beautiful, especially the wonderful medley of colors in the wall behind the sofa.
This is stunning acting!
Two masters at work and one in the waiting room, great film
What you charging for this Doctor?
A fortune
Ahhh ,no truer words spoken by a doctor
Healthcare was free in the UK less than 10 years after this was set
Thank you. I kept missing what he was saying. So it's a fortune!
My bedroom as a young child was the room set aside for the King when he visited the troops in my local area during WW2
Loved this movie!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I like how Lionel insists they address each other on first names because he wants to treat Prince Albert like a person and as a way of saying "Here you can shed the stress, weight and responsibilities of royalty and be yourself.".
I also like how when Lionel has Albert read Hamlet, he doesn't say anything and allows Albert to take his time and go at his own pace and shows patience, an exact opposite of King George V who showed impatience when he had Albert try the Christmas speech.
Love the way the camera is framing the characters and their surroundings
Lionel for example has a background of a warm home with a heart warming a nice tea, reflecting his desire to bring comfort and keep things between them equal
Meanwhile "Bertie" has an old couch lined with gold and surrounded by chaos, nothing can come out from that collage of amorphous colorful splatters, a projection of his lineage, old and important, and the chaos his mind has to deal that not even a word is easily found
Such a good movie, I feel like this movie and "The Imitation Game" are quite alike.
StoneCold Sweden imitation game is a pseudo sequel to this.
This is slightly more historically accurate, though. Imitation Game is a great film, but about 75% of it was total nonsense that they just made up.
Lionel: "Oh, surely a prince's brain knows what its mouth's doing?"
King George VI : "You're not... well acquainted with royal princes, are you?"
I thought the king said timing wasn't his strong suit. 😂😂😂
I loved Colin Firth in pride and prejudice, I loved him in Brindget Jones but I adored him as a king..
What a great scene! This is what other movies should aspire.
One of the best movie scenes ever, both acting and directing.
We don't know the details of the actual treatment, as Logue didn't keep records of it (probably at the insistence of the Royal Family), but the guy who worked on the script* had a stammer himself when he was a kid and took therapy to get rid of it, so he had Logue apply something close to modern speech therapy in the film.
* George VI was the script-writer's idol, so the film was a passion project for him.
You didn't cut to the scene where he plays the record. Boo! That's the climax.
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wall treatment deserves an oscar.
they found the room that way and decided not to change it
Is that a fact? Such exquisite randomness can only be deliberate. I'd like to know how it was done.
@@modelleg are you really saying a dirty wall is too complicated to exist naturally
I know right! There are definite patterns there. That wall is absolutely exquisite. It is like a shifting landscape. Something from a forgotten dream.
Absolutely!!! That wall is exquisite. So much so, in fact, that in one shot they show Bertie sitting on the sofa to the left, and the right-hand side of the frame is devoted to the wall. It's supposed to look like ten layers of cracked and chipped off paint, but it's a beautifully striking montage of colors.
The subtlety of that first entry- Lionel's instinct to bow, before remembering that he has to keep a casual atmosphere with Bertie, so he hides it has a nod of greeting. Superbly done by Rush.
The framing of this scene is underrated....
They are mirrored between cuts despite Colin's character sitting on the left side of the couch. This lends discomfort to Colin's role while also establishing the report they'll have with each other throughout the movie.
Love this movie/ this conversation is just so stellar.