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SON OF A BISCUIT!!!!!!! I literally almost killed my self as you stated. I was skeptical at first, but was amazed after successfully stuffing it. Had company overnight and the wife threw me out, to the sofa with sleeping bag. I can’t thank you enough for sharing.
Jesus, I've been an infantryman for three years and was never taught how to pack a sleeping back quickly. Our modular sleeping bag system is designed for up to -40 (arctic units are issued bags rated for even colder temperatures), and that thing is huge! When uncompressed/hastily/poorly packed, it will occupy literally an entire 4,000 cubic inch (65 liter) rucksack. Hastily packing a sleeping bag is something we have to do constantly due to the limitations of sleeping in a tactical environment. The sleeping bag compartment is about 1/3 of the rucksack, and the full sleep system can be jammed into it, but at great difficulty. What we end up doing is either taking less sleeping bag (and freezing our nuts off) or taking less of everything else (food, water, ammo, spare clothing, batteries, etc.) or packing it in a suboptimal/weird manner in order to make as much space as possible for the sleeping system. If someone had taught me this three years ago my life would have been a lot easier. I had figured out to pack it foot first on my own but I never really mastered compression sacks and ended up abandoning them pretty early on.
Oh my goodness,after all these years of my sleeping bag just taking up space I finally got the bloody thing back into the stuff sack THANKS TO THIS GUY a huge thank you and all the best for the future
This video made me feel like a million bucks (or expedition worthy!) I started stuffing my sleeping bag like this some years ago, believing I had a valid reason but secretly wondering if I was just being overly obsessive. Thanks for the validation! The irony is, I actually don't use a stuff sack/compression sack for my sleeping bag anymore -- I stuff the bag directly into my pack (having a tested pack liner of course.) I had heard other hikers talk about this method and thought it was a crazy idea and would only work if I didn't pack any other gear (which didn't sound like any fun at all), but I tried it and have never looked back. Stuffing the bag down inside fills up even the tiniest voids that otherwise end up as wasted space, and that makes a surprising difference when packing in all my other gear. Using this method, I'm able to pack in all my other items far more easily than when using a stuff sack -- they just mush right into the bag and practically disappear. I have found that I can pack everything up much easier and faster -- and my pack doesn't look like an over-grown beast. I was actually able to ditch the pack brain because I didn't need that space anymore. A good pack liner is required of course -- I use either a DCF or Nyloflume bag and check them frequently for any holes or rips. This one trick that I *never* thought would work has made a huge difference for me -- just one more example of Never Say Never!
Thank you so much! It’s gonna sound bad but I’ve had my sleeping bag tucked away in a crate since September of last year putting off trying to endure stuffing it again. Amazing how the proper technique turned it from a two man failure to a one man success. Gonna have to check out your other videos for more wisdom!
thank you for the video. Watching it is seems like common sense. I will admit I wrestled with my bag , a lot, and still barely got it to fit in the included stuff sack. After watching this it fits in the bag with room to spare. Now thinking to get a compression sack to make even more compact when going out.
Killing myself trying to roll this sleeping bag into a burrito only for it to slip out which resulted in me standing up, soccer kicking my sleeping bag, and ultimately finding your video! Not all heros wear capes 🤝
I fortunately learned this technique in 1975 when I purchased a North face Ibex with lawn mowing money as a young teenager. It's the best way to do it. I definitely can relate to the Cypress difficulty. I have the 6' 6" with overfill. The most massive WM Bag they make. I'm a pretty strong and gnarly rock climber but it takes everything I have to get it in the XXL stuff sack. I tried a 35L dry bag but found it just as difficult. Wish they made an XXXL stuff sack for this overfilled behemoth!
WOW !!!!!!!! Thank you sooooo much for this video . I tried for over a hour to get my WM Cypress GWS into the supplied bag from WM , to the point I was exhausted . Just as a little explanation . I run ( on the real ) 10 miles every other day , then come home and work out for 40-45 mins with weights . Even after being like I am , I WAS exhausted after trying to get the fricking bag in HEAD first . Great explanation !! Guess I should have started reading your book :D I think my Cypress is a little bulkier , but using the tech's you show here I should be golden . You'd think I was a novice , and after watching your vid's I feel as such at times like this . GREAT , thanks again ... Gubs
@@cristibaluta Hey Christian . My experience has been that stuffing sleeping bags head first leaves less bulk at the end , for the top of the sack . I am not sure anybody could get that Western Mountaineering Cypress GWS in the supplied bag that came from WM for that bag . If I get the guts , maybe I'll try it feet first . I have the Sea to summit sack now , and it does work as he showed in the video . Have a good one ... Gubs
@@ALinsdau But when you Buy a new Bag it is not packed like that is it , i just bought one and it was neatly folded and rolled up , i looked closely as i pulled it out the sack to try and remember how it was packed. I tried to pack it back the same way and not a cat in hells chance i could get it back in the Bag. How the Hell do they pack it like that , that is the Question ? I ended up just basically stuffing it in like you , it was like Wrestling a Bear , totally Knackered me lol
Thank you for this useful and informative video! I recently got a downy bag and I thought it would be much harder to pack, but the way you taught is simple and effective!
That was an amazing technique I never thought you can put a massive sleeping bag in there I hope this works for me, this video blew my mind it was like not real seeing a bag that size go in there.
Thank you for making this video. For some reason I had done this before with an Omnicore sleeping bag, but this time couldnt figure out how I put it back in the storage bag. This worked. Had to push all the air out. I kept trying to fold it like the other instructors said, but after folding it once it was stuff time foot side first for my sleeping bag. Thanks again!
Hi Aaron I’m in the army stationed in Alaska. And I just currently got the Antarctic wiggys sleeping bag it’s a 80 by 30 bag and it’s way bigger than I thought. I have a 45L dry bag but I just can’t seem to get it small enough to be able to fit in the bottom of my ruck. Was curious if you may have an idea that could help?
Wow that's a sweet sleeping bag. Have you tried the Sea-Summit bag? If it's a kayak dry bag, those are tougher to squash. www.wiggys.com/specials/antarctic-mummy-style-sleeping-bag/ Thank you for your service!
So I have the same bag, well the Bighorn. Predecessor to the Puma. Just confused on what size that is. Is it the 20 Liter? There doesn't appear to be an XL.
Good grief!! I would never have thought to do it like that. Started to put mine away....used it in the house during the Siberian Blast Elliott last month because of no heat in the house---don't ask. This was marvelous...I'll shoot for the 3 minutes...lol...we'll see. Grateful for your help. Jesus bless.
*I'M Homeless😔 and I have the Sierra Designs™ 45°F Shadow Mountain™ Rectangular Adult Sleeping Bag (Blue) fits up to 6' 2"* I'm here in *Florida ☀️* Where we get the occasional frost ❄ temp° *_usual in the 20's (rarely). Mostly low 30's, Typically in 40's in December, January, & February._* I'm trying to determine *what size Compression Sack/Bag that's Budget Friendly, Very Durable, Won't Tear. That can Last Winter, Summer, Spring, Fall.* So How would you *determine what size Compression Bag to buy based on the size of the Sleeping bag with a, Let's say, King size Blanket or Quilt with it? (All rolled up together it was around 15 inch or so).* I'm *confuse about the X, XL and so forth on the sizes.* I'm looking for *_just a Basic Budget Friendly weather/water proof/Dry one? I'M LOOKING ON AMAZON And Walmart Any Ideal?_*
Nice tip with the body weight but this is easy peasy. My Yeti -28C sleeping bag has the same volume as your crushed bag but smaller in diameter and taller and has no straps (which i actually like), so i have to remove the air as i'm stuffing the sleeping bag. First times i tried 1/3 remained outside, i was using all my force. The trick was to roll the sack down and release little by little as it becomes full. It takes me 5min every time.
My arms are killing me after several attempts. I have a Big Agnes Lost Dog and a 20L eVent and it will *not* stop poofing back out. I can't get it in there enough to start rolling the top. Once I finally get it so I can close it, I put the cap on and I start mooshing it down while tightening the straps. I thought the eVent bag had a membrane that pushed air out but didn't allow air in? One I've rolled the top, all the air is trapped in there. I'm not sure what's going on.
Use the weight of your body to squish it. It takes time for the air to press out. It's a workout and a test of patience if your stuff bag is too small. Get the XL if you can.
I just ordered a giant double sleeping bag that is apparently impossible to put back in there. I wonder if sitting on it might also make it easier to get out? I don't camp in crazy weather. I'm trying to make sure we don't freeze if we lose power and this has been very helpful.
Great video, as are all your gear reviews, tips & tricks. I have to say you made me feel like a pro when you talked about zipping up from the outside, because I started doing that last year -- it IS practically foolproof indeed (and using thin shock cord is the best.) I have a couple questions and hope you can cover them in a video sometime soon: what do you wear for "sleep clothes" inside the bag? I like 200 or maybe 260wt merino tops & bottoms, with socks, a fleece cap, and often a buff (with a fleece or down jacket, and rain gear if I start to feel really cold. Do you have other choices you like better? Do you ever use a sleeping bag liner? I personally feel way to trussed up in a liner, but wonder about your opinion. One problem I have is that can't seem to avoid getting the very front part of my hood/neck baffle soaking wet with my expirations during the night, and that is SUPER COLD ICK in the morning. Even a buff/balaclava doesn't seem to help. Any tips? Also, when it comes to storing cold-sensitive items in the bag overnight, any suggestions or tips on that? I ususally stuff my clothes in along my sides (if really wet, they are in plastic bags), but it sure does get cramped for things like a water bottle, fuel canister, phone/battery, water filter, etc. Do you stuff those in the bottom, or do you wrap them up with the clothing? One last question (I promise): Do you have any kind of "routine" for undressing out of sweaty clothes, getting into the bag, securing your gear...and then a routine you like best in the morning? Sounds silly, but I try to minimize my time getting in and out. Thanks for great stuff!
Those are great video ideas, thank you. I'll make a video for each one. I just wear ~200 weight long shirt & long underwear. It works well. I rarely if ever use a bag liner. It's a real struggle for night duty. It's unavoidable to get the face area moist from breathing - that's part of the joy of the experience I'm afraid. I'll work on that one. I stuff everything beside me or in the foot box for cold sensitive items. Yes, it gets very, very cramped. It's like sleeping on a ruble pile. Routine - Yes, I change as fast as possible and just tough it out, even if it's -40ºF/C. In the morning, I'll wriggle around and change in the bag but it takes far longer than just toughing it out. If you keep your change into clothing warm, that'll save you a lot of suffering. Videos to come!
@@ALinsdau "Night duty" -- ha! I love it. Thanks for your reply; I'm looking forward to upcoming videos. I do have one more question for you: Do you have a technique or best practice for adjusting the neck baffle and hood to get a comfortable and effective closure? I always find myself fidgeting with those (and fighting the drawstrings), and never seem to get it "right". A small and maybe silly detail, but I thought I'd ask.
Nice video …what do you think if I use a small one instead of XL it will fit or not? i have a Western Mountaineering alpinelite and i need to make it small comprised as I can
This is great - but I’m not sure how I’m gonna do this at high altitude when the air is thin and I’m already gonna have issues getting enough air in my lungs….
Hey Al buddy! Nice video. Have always stuffed the sleeping bag but damn, never paid attention which end I started with! What a meathead I am! Maybe I missed it but what size stuff sac did ya use? I’ve got me Kelty down 20f. sleeping bag.
The medium stuff sack works for the 0ºF Antelope. Go bigger when in doubt because when the sack is too small, it takes a lot of energy to jam the sleeping bag into the sack.
I wish somebody would invent a sleeping bag that's as thin as a sheet but would keep you warm in 40 degree Fahrenheit weather. Weighs as much as a sheet and cost less than $30... this would change the world
FUNNY....I have the Same SleepingBag and the same eVent Compression Bag for it as well ....LOL P.S. Open the Zipper totally.....what makes it even more easy to stuff the Sleepingbag....especailly when it with have a quit air tight GoreTex Shell.
Good to note. I'm always leery of leaving the zipper all the way down to prevent damage to the fabric where the 2 zippers meet. I want to avoid tearing damage.
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SON OF A BISCUIT!!!!!!! I literally almost killed my self as you stated. I was skeptical at first, but was amazed after successfully stuffing it. Had company overnight and the wife threw me out, to the sofa with sleeping bag. I can’t thank you enough for sharing.
Glad to help!
Jesus, I've been an infantryman for three years and was never taught how to pack a sleeping back quickly. Our modular sleeping bag system is designed for up to -40 (arctic units are issued bags rated for even colder temperatures), and that thing is huge! When uncompressed/hastily/poorly packed, it will occupy literally an entire 4,000 cubic inch (65 liter) rucksack. Hastily packing a sleeping bag is something we have to do constantly due to the limitations of sleeping in a tactical environment. The sleeping bag compartment is about 1/3 of the rucksack, and the full sleep system can be jammed into it, but at great difficulty. What we end up doing is either taking less sleeping bag (and freezing our nuts off) or taking less of everything else (food, water, ammo, spare clothing, batteries, etc.) or packing it in a suboptimal/weird manner in order to make as much space as possible for the sleeping system. If someone had taught me this three years ago my life would have been a lot easier. I had figured out to pack it foot first on my own but I never really mastered compression sacks and ended up abandoning them pretty early on.
I really need to buy a military sleep system and try it out. Have to find a source for that. I'd love to try the Arctic unit bags, too.
Oh my goodness,after all these years of my sleeping bag just taking up space I finally got the bloody thing back into the stuff sack THANKS TO THIS GUY a huge thank you and all the best for the future
Thanks for watching!
First time I put one back in a bag it took me over half an hour, but I learned about this about five years ago. Do it in five minutes
wow i finally got my sleeping bag to fit nicely.thanks!!
Perfect!
Wow! It worked! Thank you ! I could never stuff it in more than half way and now its all the way in and quickly 😊
I'm glad it worked for you!
This video is great and I was able to put my new sleeping bag into the sack and get the cover on. Thank you thank you.
Glad it helped!
This video made me feel like a million bucks (or expedition worthy!) I started stuffing my sleeping bag like this some years ago, believing I had a valid reason but secretly wondering if I was just being overly obsessive. Thanks for the validation!
The irony is, I actually don't use a stuff sack/compression sack for my sleeping bag anymore -- I stuff the bag directly into my pack (having a tested pack liner of course.) I had heard other hikers talk about this method and thought it was a crazy idea and would only work if I didn't pack any other gear (which didn't sound like any fun at all), but I tried it and have never looked back. Stuffing the bag down inside fills up even the tiniest voids that otherwise end up as wasted space, and that makes a surprising difference when packing in all my other gear. Using this method, I'm able to pack in all my other items far more easily than when using a stuff sack -- they just mush right into the bag and practically disappear. I have found that I can pack everything up much easier and faster -- and my pack doesn't look like an over-grown beast. I was actually able to ditch the pack brain because I didn't need that space anymore. A good pack liner is required of course -- I use either a DCF or Nyloflume bag and check them frequently for any holes or rips.
This one trick that I *never* thought would work has made a huge difference for me -- just one more example of Never Say Never!
Nice - thanks for the detailed notes.
what is a pack liner? do you not just stuff the sleeping bag directly into your bag pack?
I had to somehow get my 7ft sleeping bag in its small sack- This guy is literally a lifesaver.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! It’s gonna sound bad but I’ve had my sleeping bag tucked away in a crate since September of last year putting off trying to endure stuffing it again. Amazing how the proper technique turned it from a two man failure to a one man success. Gonna have to check out your other videos for more wisdom!
Best of luck!
Excellent teacher.
Thank you!
Thanks a lot it helped me to put my nemo sonic down sleeping bag back into its case .
Thank you for watching!
thank you for the video. Watching it is seems like common sense. I will admit I wrestled with my bag , a lot, and still barely got it to fit in the included stuff sack. After watching this it fits in the bag with room to spare. Now thinking to get a compression sack to make even more compact when going out.
Great!
You are a magician! Thank you!
Glad to help.
You helped save me a lot of time. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Holy cow. It worked. THANK YOU!!!
Glad it helped!
You are THE MAN!!! Thank you!!!!
You're welcome!
Killing myself trying to roll this sleeping bag into a burrito only for it to slip out which resulted in me standing up, soccer kicking my sleeping bag, and ultimately finding your video! Not all heros wear capes 🤝
Glad to help.
Can't believe it was so simple. I was rolling it up and folding it all I had to do was jam it in!
Excellent!
I fortunately learned this technique in 1975 when I purchased a North face Ibex with lawn mowing money as a young teenager. It's the best way to do it.
I definitely can relate to the Cypress difficulty. I have the 6' 6" with overfill. The most massive WM Bag they make. I'm a pretty strong and gnarly rock climber but it takes everything I have to get it in the XXL stuff sack. I tried a 35L dry bag but found it just as difficult. Wish they made an XXXL stuff sack for this overfilled behemoth!
It's tough to stuff those big bags.
U r old 😲 😮
Exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you for posting!
No problem!
WOW !!!!!!!! Thank you sooooo much for this video . I tried for over a hour to get my WM Cypress GWS into the supplied bag from WM , to the point I was exhausted . Just as a little explanation . I run ( on the real ) 10 miles every other day , then come home and work out for 40-45 mins with weights . Even after being like I am , I WAS exhausted after trying to get the fricking bag in HEAD first . Great explanation !! Guess I should have started reading your book :D I think my Cypress is a little bulkier , but using the tech's you show here I should be golden . You'd think I was a novice , and after watching your vid's I feel as such at times like this . GREAT , thanks again ... Gubs
P.S . I just ordered that Sea to summit XL bag via the link you supplied :D Thanks again I'll let you know how it goes for me .... Gubs
Glad to help. A minor adjustment can make a big difference.
I thought that starting with the feet is common sense, i don't think i learned this from anybody but this is what i do from the beginning.
@@cristibaluta Hey Christian . My experience has been that stuffing sleeping bags head first leaves less bulk at the end , for the top of the sack . I am not sure anybody could get that Western Mountaineering Cypress GWS in the supplied bag that came from WM for that bag . If I get the guts , maybe I'll try it feet first . I have the Sea to summit sack now , and it does work as he showed in the video . Have a good one ... Gubs
I definitely can relate. My overfilled Cypress, like wrestling a pig that keeps fighting back.
Thanks for the tip in the first minute. Kelly packed and stowed
Great!
Yup. It works like a charm.
Great!
You sir are a legend!! Thank you.
Glad to help
Thank you. Big help for this non camper😊.
No problem 👍
@@ALinsdau But when you Buy a new Bag it is not packed like that is it , i just bought one and it was neatly folded and rolled up , i looked closely as i pulled it out the sack to try and remember how it was packed.
I tried to pack it back the same way and not a cat in hells chance i could get it back in the Bag.
How the Hell do they pack it like that , that is the Question ?
I ended up just basically stuffing it in like you , it was like Wrestling a Bear , totally Knackered me lol
Only watched to 3:10 and it helped. Cheers
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this useful and informative video! I recently got a downy bag and I thought it would be much harder to pack, but the way you taught is simple and effective!
Glad it was helpful!
This is so helpful
Thanks!
That was an amazing technique I never thought you can put a massive sleeping bag in there I hope this works for me, this video blew my mind it was like not real seeing a bag that size go in there.
Good luck!
Brilliant, thank you so much 👍
No problem 👍
Try turning it inside out before stuffing. Makes stuffing my Lynx easier.
Good to note - thanks!
Indeed, the inner liner isn't treated like the exterior, air escapes quicker and, IMHO, with less damage.
So simple it's genius. Thank you
You bet!
Thank you for making this video. For some reason I had done this before with an Omnicore sleeping bag, but this time couldnt figure out how I put it back in the storage bag. This worked. Had to push all the air out. I kept trying to fold it like the other instructors said, but after folding it once it was stuff time foot side first for my sleeping bag. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Aaron I’m in the army stationed in Alaska. And I just currently got the Antarctic wiggys sleeping bag it’s a 80 by 30 bag and it’s way bigger than I thought. I have a 45L dry bag but I just can’t seem to get it small enough to be able to fit in the bottom of my ruck. Was curious if you may have an idea that could help?
Thank you for your service! 🇺🇸
Wow that's a sweet sleeping bag. Have you tried the Sea-Summit bag? If it's a kayak dry bag, those are tougher to squash.
www.wiggys.com/specials/antarctic-mummy-style-sleeping-bag/
Thank you for your service!
So I have the same bag, well the Bighorn. Predecessor to the Puma. Just confused on what size that is. Is it the 20 Liter? There doesn't appear to be an XL.
Sleeping Bag Compression Sack Stuff Sack Size Selection: th-cam.com/video/K15g5RCRh5w/w-d-xo.html
Thank you , helped a lot
Glad to hear!
Good grief!! I would never have thought to do it like that. Started to put mine away....used it in the house during the Siberian Blast Elliott last month because of no heat in the house---don't ask.
This was marvelous...I'll shoot for the 3 minutes...lol...we'll see. Grateful for your help. Jesus bless.
Glad to help - best of luck and stay warm out there.
Lifesaver!!
Thanks for watching.
Great video. This is so helpful! My sleeping bag sack before was a bag of lumps. You're funny too
Oh thank you!
Thanks ! I kept rolling it up like a sausage roll first then trying to stuff that into the bag without success!
Sure thing.
Thank you.
You're welcome. Stay warm out there.
You forgot to put a link in the description to your video on how to dry your sleeping bag FYI!
How to Dry A Sleeping Bag: th-cam.com/video/L3CBFZT7b8I/w-d-xo.html
Thanks!
Awesome video! Thank you! Subbed!
Thanks!
Great video & tips
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video sir!
Glad to help!
Omg like thank you!
Stay safe out there.
Very helpful!
Thanks!
*I'M Homeless😔 and I have the Sierra Designs™ 45°F Shadow Mountain™ Rectangular Adult Sleeping Bag (Blue) fits up to 6' 2"*
I'm here in *Florida ☀️* Where we get the occasional frost ❄ temp° *_usual in the 20's (rarely). Mostly low 30's, Typically in 40's in December, January, & February._*
I'm trying to determine *what size Compression Sack/Bag that's Budget Friendly, Very Durable, Won't Tear. That can Last Winter, Summer, Spring, Fall.*
So How would you *determine what size Compression Bag to buy based on the size of the Sleeping bag with a, Let's say, King size Blanket or Quilt with it? (All rolled up together it was around 15 inch or so).* I'm *confuse about the X, XL and so forth on the sizes.*
I'm looking for *_just a Basic Budget Friendly weather/water proof/Dry one? I'M LOOKING ON AMAZON And Walmart Any Ideal?_*
If they show liter size probably be better to go with that. As far as anything else I don't know, I was kind of just looking around at videos
Choosing the Right Sleeping Bag Temperature Rating: th-cam.com/video/-apyPC3VxP4/w-d-xo.html
Nice tip with the body weight but this is easy peasy. My Yeti -28C sleeping bag has the same volume as your crushed bag but smaller in diameter and taller and has no straps (which i actually like), so i have to remove the air as i'm stuffing the sleeping bag. First times i tried 1/3 remained outside, i was using all my force. The trick was to roll the sack down and release little by little as it becomes full. It takes me 5min every time.
Good to note.
thanks a ton super helpful
No worries!
My arms are killing me after several attempts. I have a Big Agnes Lost Dog and a 20L eVent and it will *not* stop poofing back out. I can't get it in there enough to start rolling the top.
Once I finally get it so I can close it, I put the cap on and I start mooshing it down while tightening the straps. I thought the eVent bag had a membrane that pushed air out but didn't allow air in? One I've rolled the top, all the air is trapped in there. I'm not sure what's going on.
Use the weight of your body to squish it. It takes time for the air to press out. It's a workout and a test of patience if your stuff bag is too small. Get the XL if you can.
@@ALinsdau Thanks brother. I ended up getting it packed up pretty small. You've really got to lay on it!
I just ordered a giant double sleeping bag that is apparently impossible to put back in there. I wonder if sitting on it might also make it easier to get out? I don't camp in crazy weather. I'm trying to make sure we don't freeze if we lose power and this has been very helpful.
Thanks for watching!
That’s why I’m here! I have double as well and it’s super thick too. I’ve had it for years and have never once gotten it back into the sack
It worked! 😂
Great!
Great video, as are all your gear reviews, tips & tricks. I have to say you made me feel like a pro when you talked about zipping up from the outside, because I started doing that last year -- it IS practically foolproof indeed (and using thin shock cord is the best.)
I have a couple questions and hope you can cover them in a video sometime soon: what do you wear for "sleep clothes" inside the bag? I like 200 or maybe 260wt merino tops & bottoms, with socks, a fleece cap, and often a buff (with a fleece or down jacket, and rain gear if I start to feel really cold. Do you have other choices you like better? Do you ever use a sleeping bag liner? I personally feel way to trussed up in a liner, but wonder about your opinion.
One problem I have is that can't seem to avoid getting the very front part of my hood/neck baffle soaking wet with my expirations during the night, and that is SUPER COLD ICK in the morning. Even a buff/balaclava doesn't seem to help. Any tips?
Also, when it comes to storing cold-sensitive items in the bag overnight, any suggestions or tips on that? I ususally stuff my clothes in along my sides (if really wet, they are in plastic bags), but it sure does get cramped for things like a water bottle, fuel canister, phone/battery, water filter, etc. Do you stuff those in the bottom, or do you wrap them up with the clothing?
One last question (I promise): Do you have any kind of "routine" for undressing out of sweaty clothes, getting into the bag, securing your gear...and then a routine you like best in the morning? Sounds silly, but I try to minimize my time getting in and out.
Thanks for great stuff!
Those are great video ideas, thank you. I'll make a video for each one.
I just wear ~200 weight long shirt & long underwear. It works well. I rarely if ever use a bag liner. It's a real struggle for night duty.
It's unavoidable to get the face area moist from breathing - that's part of the joy of the experience I'm afraid. I'll work on that one.
I stuff everything beside me or in the foot box for cold sensitive items. Yes, it gets very, very cramped. It's like sleeping on a ruble pile.
Routine - Yes, I change as fast as possible and just tough it out, even if it's -40ºF/C. In the morning, I'll wriggle around and change in the bag but it takes far longer than just toughing it out. If you keep your change into clothing warm, that'll save you a lot of suffering.
Videos to come!
@@ALinsdau "Night duty" -- ha! I love it.
Thanks for your reply; I'm looking forward to upcoming videos. I do have one more question for you: Do you have a technique or best practice for adjusting the neck baffle and hood to get a comfortable and effective closure? I always find myself fidgeting with those (and fighting the drawstrings), and never seem to get it "right". A small and maybe silly detail, but I thought I'd ask.
Nice video …what do you think if I use a small one instead of XL it will fit or not? i have a Western Mountaineering alpinelite and i need to make it small comprised as I can
That'd be a snug fit. You want to avoid a 10 minute workout if you can
Very cool video.
Thanks!
I am getting the Antelope GWS Sleeping Bag, can you recommend the stuff sac size ??? Thank you
Medium
This is great - but I’m not sure how I’m gonna do this at high altitude when the air is thin and I’m already gonna have issues getting enough air in my lungs….
Hey Al buddy! Nice video. Have always stuffed the sleeping bag but damn, never paid attention which end I started with! What a meathead I am! Maybe I missed it but what size stuff sac did ya use? I’ve got me Kelty down 20f. sleeping bag.
The medium stuff sack works for the 0ºF Antelope. Go bigger when in doubt because when the sack is too small, it takes a lot of energy to jam the sleeping bag into the sack.
Will Puma fit in 20l version of this bag?
No, use the 30L stuff sack.
If you turn the back inside out before stuffing....it will let out more air....because the outside material restricts the airflow....Cheers
Good to note - thanks!
I sit on my bag when I'm doing it, makes it easier to breathe.
Good pointer!
I wish somebody would invent a sleeping bag that's as thin as a sheet but would keep you warm in 40 degree Fahrenheit weather. Weighs as much as a sheet and cost less than $30... this would change the world
That sure would.
This actually works well with the Kelty Military bags….
Good to know, thank you.
Nice video! Good tip. New follower here. Crow✌️
Awesome! Thank you!
I got an Dutch ex-military sleeping bag, apart from weighing as much as a medium sized dog, it'd be a struggle to get it in a 100L bin liner 🤣🤣
Those combat bags are somewhat heavier.
FUNNY....I have the Same SleepingBag and the same eVent Compression Bag for it as well ....LOL
P.S. Open the Zipper totally.....what makes it even more easy to stuff the Sleepingbag....especailly when it with have a quit air tight GoreTex Shell.
Good to note. I'm always leery of leaving the zipper all the way down to prevent damage to the fabric where the 2 zippers meet. I want to avoid tearing damage.
it sucks that this didn’t work for me 😭
Darn!
Keep pushing it in until one day it breaks 😅.
Thanks for watching!
I prefer a larger stuff sack. Makes it easier to roll up and you got extra space for supplies.
Good pointer!