When Jon was explaining how they created the opening solo sequence of Close to the Edge specifically the section where they abruptly stop for the vocal I love hearing stuff like that. I've heard the song so many times and it's probably my favourite song any rock band has ever put together and it's awesome to be able to hear him explain intricacies like that. There is listening to the song and absorbing it all and then there is being able to know it was created and constructed and you gain a whole new level of appreciation for what these guys did and here I am thinking my appreciation couldn't possibly get any higher but leave it to Jon to prove me wrong.
In March, I will have been following YES for 50 years. As Jon and Neal were talking about past YES, I thought of the many great moments- 65 YES concerts, many good memories... Ironic: Neal stated that at age 12 he saw Yes in 1971 in L.A. YES had become "his band. " Fragile I always say was the template by which I was able to understand and enjoy all of the ensuing Prog albums and bands over the years. One such band was...Spock's Beard! I discovered them in 1997, and saw Neal and the guys in LA, at Progfest 97 ! So...a great type of music over the decades!
Thank you for a fabulous time with Jon. He‘s influenced me since i was 14 and heard Fragile. How i missed this podcast earlier I don’t know but am thrilled to have found it.
What an experience to be so influenced starting out in music by a songwriter and then years later to have coffee with and just talk about life . That is in itself the divine magic of God at work . God bless you both
There is one notable exception to the rule of 3 or 4 movements in classical music - and that is Gustav Mahler. In fact, I would argue that Mahler's "Das Lied von der Erde", in 6 movements, is a pioneer of the prog concept album.
I’m sure someone has already noted this but Jon was talking about the West Side Story “America”, while the intro you were vocalizing was the Simon & Garfunkel “America”, which Yes also covered.
Oh man Jon talking about how they came up with beginning segment of Close To The Edge was interesting. Great interview, wish Steve Bill Jon Rick and Eddie Offord would all do interviews specifically on the creation of Close to the Edge, how they remember the various sections coming about.
There Is no way to describe the love that I bear towards Jon and Steve and the joy and peaceful contentment that their gifts and talents have brought to my life. PROG is one of God's great gifts to the world, to its culture and people, what a peaceful blast of audible art has been sent our way, quieting and humbling me as it has stilled the waters that needed stilling, stirring- up all that needed a good shaking. Jon and Steve had a lot to do with that, so I'll say it again: Jon Anderson and Steve Morse, I love you both very much and I'll be eternally grateful for your having shared those gifts with an old sway-back from way-back, like me. LORD Bless Us All, William Weathers.
Loved this interview, Neal....you are becoming a master host. What a great guest....total legend. 3 things I came away with: 1. I need to listen to Sybellius 2. I need to check out more Jacob Collier (frankly, I know who he is and I have seen/heard a little of his stuff but I've been consciously (subconsciously?) avoiding it because he is too depressing to me with all that natural ability :-) 3. Sign up for the Master Class! I recently put out an album and it was a learning process--I finally put it out there with very limited DAW/mixing skills, but it would be great to be a spectator to see a genius at work (workflow, process, etc).
Yes Symphonic does capture magic. VHS, DVD, now Blu-ray (but I like the mix on DVD best I think, Jon's vocals sound a bit overdriven on the Blu-ray) Jon- some of us have been loving that one for 20 years. I could listen to Jon talk or sing forever, so fun, unassuming and insightful
The Spirit of God gave me signals of transcendence through Yes and Rush when I was young until I was regenerated and became a Christian. It is so sweet how God is pleased to draw us to Jesus. Love you, Neal and Jon!
I was fortunate to participate in one of Neal Morse's Radiant school events in person. If you get a chance, take his virtual Masterclass. Watching him work is a real treat and SO inspiring.
Neal thank you for these. Great artists talking to a peer are bringing out insights and thoughts I have never heard and believe me I have the albums ,the CD the DVD the Blu Ray the books and have been a musician for 40 plus years. These are refreshing and joyous. Love.x
That was a great podcast Neal, Jon is a person that has loads of life history and reacts well to a good interview and this podcast showed that. One piece of purely instrumently music that he recorded, 'A View From The Coppice' puzzled me for a while, yes The Coppice is a hill that looks over Accrington but the music implied a certain movement. I came across a video shot from The Coppice of an old steam train going up the railway line, so I put the music to it and that was it, Jon was describing a steam train going up a hill. From remember where Jon and his brother Tony worked in the Claypit as Quarrymen I was able to workout his view point and the Music made sense.
Me too. Knowledge isn't the pursuit of something higher (better) than God. Praying that the Lord reaches out to Jon. And everyone else for that matter.
@@c-LAWbecause no one is clear about the truth and y’all just sound like cooky Christian’s gatekeeping enlightenment and heaven again. Y’all never change huh? Just continue to be judgmental, i guess.
Fascinating conversation from two musical geniuses. So good to hear Jon explaining how the intro to Close to the Edge came about and interesting to hear about his love for Sibelius' music.
Favorite part was: when Neal asked : Did they think you were crazy ?? Jon: "I don't care". - I had just seen an older Bruford interview, wherein he had a bit of trouble figuring what Jon was trying to express from time to time in the creation of their music. As a drummer for our worship team every once in awhile I'd have an idea about arrangement. One time i thought the instruments should of cut out for a couple of measures. So I would just cut out myself and the others caught on and thought it was good. In hindsight i can see that Jon's idea worked out well in Close to the Edge, but I can see, at first Bruford's questioning "Why Stop" . It is good as with Jon and the rest of Yes as it is with Portnoy and Neal, to take what seems like obscure ideas that , at 1st, you don't hear, and 'flesh' them out.
hey is that the instrument Jon had with him on PNAS and when a girl asked him "How is it called" he answered "Well - i think it´s name is GEORGE" ... omfg what a great event that cruise, wasn´t it, Neal?! Looking forward for CTTE ´22 and to meet you all again!
Jon is getting up there in years. I have seen several recent interviews where his memories are slightly confused. But even so, he seemed to remember details pretty well in this interview.
@@escommentss 100% agreed. Those classic Yes albums have stood the test of time, and Jon's voice sounds just as good now as it ever did. I have seen Jon in concert a few times over the years with Yes and with ARW, and I hope I'll get a chance to see him again some time.
@@Paul71H I've seen Yes 3 times, '78, '83, and '14 (/w Davison), ABWH in '87. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the ARW lineup but have seen videos. Really loved what the bass player brought to the table. He was awesome!
Aging may have something to do with it, but as hard to believe as it could be, real artists (as Anderson clearly is) don't go around listening to their work over and over again as if it were their own fan. And even more when it comes to the vastness of his work within and outside of Yes. To tell you the truth, it would be quite a feat to remember which album each of his songs is on, even if he was 30 years old.
What lovely fun! But - sorry Jon, you’re wrong. The Second Symphony is peak Sibelius. The last few minutes are what heaven sounds like. Bernstein conducting - oh baby! It’s in D major- the happiest key of all.
Quite Wonderful In So Many Ways .. isn't Jon A Lovely Soul...........Ps Neal any chance of a coffee with Some Other FAb brit Proggers like Andrew Latimer,(Camel)Nick Barratt (Pendragon) or Tony Banks.( GENESIS!!! )
Met Jon Anderson in 2004 at Trump Marina Casino at his solo show. I carried with me a Tales From Topographic Oceans album cover framed (split the front and interior sections of cover in two, mounted outer cover on top and inner cover on bottom). That framed artwork was very expensive, in addition to years of albums/cd/ticket purchases. When I approached him, I asked him to sign the glass of the framed album. He had no words. I expressed that I was a lifelong fan. After I got out of line, I went back in to get a photo with him. His response was "Oh...this guy again!" Really? What did I do wrong? Only praised him. He is an absolute phony with all his spiritual crap. He disrespected me and ruined a lifelong appreciation of him as an artist. The guy is a phony fake jerk. FYI
Interesting how American Jon's accent has become over time he's been living in the US. Unlike e.g. Rob Halford who still sounds as West Midland-ish as can be😅.
Poor Jon is soooo lost spiritually. May the Lord Jesus Christ make Himself known to him personally. There is no other name under heaven and Earth by which to be saved other than Lord Jesus Christ.
Being in my early 60's, both of these guys have created and been apart of some of the best music I've ever heard...but I'm not sure this "Coffee and Stuff" episode works, it kind of feels forced. Neal and Jon seem to be coming at this from different directions, it's almost like Neal's not really interested in what Jon's saying...they don't seem to have a good rapport like he did with Portnoy. Maybe they have crossed paths in the past, and things aren't that cool between them.
I thought it was really lovely how Neal was so graciously letting Jon reminisce in the beginning. That's being a good host! Tim, do you listen to many podcasts? Hosts need to let the guests speak without interruption. And Neal has already gotten that down as a host. I somewhat held my breath as Neal flat out owned his Christianity (like he always does, good for him!) and wondered how Jon would respond. But they both are surrounded by Divinity and I really thought their conversation was lovely. Didn't really expect anything else as both are such lovely human beings and souls!
I don’t know that it’s that Neal’s not interested. Having seen a couple of recent interviews with Jon (like Rick Beato’s talk with him) it’s just that Jon’s brain seems to work completely differently from most people’s. Apart from all the mysticism, just threads he follows in his conversations are... well... different. Very interesting, but hard for a technical, organized guy to follow. Totally brilliant ideas at times, but I can see why guys like Bill Bruford sometimes wanted to tear their hair out.
@@stevelacker358 Jon is probably ADHD. Hearing him talk reminds me of trying to hold a serious conversation with my severely ADHD son. His mind is going 1000 mph and there are simply too many thoughts converging at the same time. He jumps from one train of thought to another and it makes it difficult to follow sometimes.
Ok, having read the comments regarding my statement, I must admit that I only watched about half the interview...right about the time I switched it off, it got more interesting. But I am surprised that Neal didn't know about the "Symphonic Yes" DVD...something all true Yes fans should have, It's that good.
Jon blushing at 42:32 is adorable and precious.
When Jon was explaining how they created the opening solo sequence of Close to the Edge specifically the section where they abruptly stop for the vocal I love hearing stuff like that. I've heard the song so many times and it's probably my favourite song any rock band has ever put together and it's awesome to be able to hear him explain intricacies like that. There is listening to the song and absorbing it all and then there is being able to know it was created and constructed and you gain a whole new level of appreciation for what these guys did and here I am thinking my appreciation couldn't possibly get any higher but leave it to Jon to prove me wrong.
Now I wanna listen through the whole Yes discography again. Chronologically...
From a world that's neverending, from the sky beyond the sky...
In March, I will have been following YES for 50 years.
As Jon and Neal were talking about past YES, I thought of the many great moments- 65 YES concerts, many good memories...
Ironic: Neal stated that at age 12 he saw Yes in 1971 in L.A. YES had become "his band. " Fragile I always say was the template by which I was able to understand and enjoy all of the ensuing Prog albums and bands over the years. One such band was...Spock's Beard! I discovered them in 1997, and saw Neal and the guys in LA, at Progfest 97 !
So...a great type of music over the decades!
Thank you for a fabulous time with Jon. He‘s influenced me since i was 14 and heard Fragile. How i missed this podcast earlier I don’t know but am thrilled to have found it.
What an experience to be so influenced starting out in music by a songwriter and then years later to have coffee with and just talk about life . That is in itself the divine magic of God at work . God bless you both
There is one notable exception to the rule of 3 or 4 movements in classical music - and that is Gustav Mahler. In fact, I would argue that Mahler's "Das Lied von der Erde", in 6 movements, is a pioneer of the prog concept album.
I’m sure someone has already noted this but Jon was talking about the West Side Story “America”, while the intro you were vocalizing was the Simon & Garfunkel “America”, which Yes also covered.
Oh man Jon talking about how they came up with beginning segment of Close To The Edge was interesting. Great interview, wish Steve Bill Jon Rick and Eddie Offord would all do interviews specifically on the creation of Close to the Edge, how they remember the various sections coming about.
My two favorite musicians ever.
This is a fascinating interview - Jon talks about so many other things than what he normally does. Great to hear him stretch out here.
35:54 Ah yes, the European Festival Orchestra. Many Yes-fans fell in love with them. Especially the "cymbal girl" was very popular.
Will need to dig out the Symphonic live dvd and have a look but i recall alot of babes in that orchestra.
Indeed! Do you know her name?
The moment Jon Anderson recognized Jacob Collier's genius! So awesome
What a beautiful human being 🙏🏼
Two greats musicians!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇧🇷 Yes is my number one of all time. SB with Neal is top five of all time!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wow, can't believe that's his actual voice!
They's been saying that for over half a century: The one and only Jon Anderson!
Mike with the marker board was a great moment on that first Transatlantic "making of..." video!
There Is no way to describe the love that I bear towards Jon and Steve and the joy and peaceful contentment that their gifts and talents have brought to my life. PROG is one of God's great gifts to the world, to its culture and people, what a peaceful blast of audible art has been sent our way, quieting and humbling me as it has stilled the waters that needed stilling, stirring- up all that needed a good shaking. Jon and Steve had a lot to do with that, so I'll say it again: Jon Anderson and Steve Morse, I love you both very much and I'll be eternally grateful for your having shared those gifts with an old sway-back from way-back, like me.
LORD Bless Us All,
William Weathers.
Anderson, Morse, Stolt 2022!
Loved this interview, Neal....you are becoming a master host. What a great guest....total legend. 3 things I came away with: 1. I need to listen to Sybellius 2. I need to check out more Jacob Collier (frankly, I know who he is and I have seen/heard a little of his stuff but I've been consciously (subconsciously?) avoiding it because he is too depressing to me with all that natural ability :-) 3. Sign up for the Master Class! I recently put out an album and it was a learning process--I finally put it out there with very limited DAW/mixing skills, but it would be great to be a spectator to see a genius at work (workflow, process, etc).
Yes Symphonic does capture magic. VHS, DVD, now Blu-ray (but I like the mix on DVD best I think, Jon's vocals sound a bit overdriven on the Blu-ray) Jon- some of us have been loving that one for 20 years. I could listen to Jon talk or sing forever, so fun, unassuming and insightful
The Spirit of God gave me signals of transcendence through Yes and Rush when I was young until I was regenerated and became a Christian. It is so sweet how God is pleased to draw us to Jesus. Love you, Neal and Jon!
You found God through Rush? That’s a hard prospect to believe given Neil’s staunchness as an agonstic-atheist.
I was fortunate to participate in one of Neal Morse's Radiant school events in person. If you get a chance, take his virtual Masterclass. Watching him work is a real treat and SO inspiring.
Thumbs up for Jon saying Topography!
Love Jon Anderson. One of my favorite singers!
Neal thank you for these. Great artists talking to a peer are bringing out insights and thoughts I have never heard and believe me I have the albums ,the CD the DVD the Blu Ray the books and have been a musician for 40 plus years. These are refreshing and joyous. Love.x
Thank you for this. A new interview with Jon Anderson is always great to see! ☺
I like Jon. It's cool that he likes Spinal Tap.
Remarkable, loved watching this. Two great legends
That was a great podcast Neal, Jon is a person that has loads of life history and reacts well to a good interview and this podcast showed that.
One piece of purely instrumently music that he recorded, 'A View From The Coppice' puzzled me for a while, yes The Coppice is a hill that looks over Accrington but the music implied a certain movement.
I came across a video shot from The Coppice of an old steam train going up the railway line, so I put the music to it and that was it, Jon was describing a steam train going up a hill.
From remember where Jon and his brother Tony worked in the Claypit as Quarrymen I was able to workout his view point and the Music made sense.
Cheers, Neal!
About out to the coffee mug you made for Neal!
@@mrmoonbike Thanks, man!
That outro music! Neal feeling a little inspired to perpetually change? Love it!!
Brilliant to see and gear these two great musicians exchanging ideas and stories!
I feel very much approved by hearing that Jon Anderson praises Jacob Collier. 🎶👍🖖
Have been praying for Jon off and on for the last 35 years, that he would come to the full knowledge of The Truth. Such a sweet guy
Amen bro!
Me too. Knowledge isn't the pursuit of something higher (better) than God. Praying that the Lord reaches out to Jon. And everyone else for that matter.
In your mind, what is the full knowledge of The Truth? Why do you write so cryptically?
@@SergeDelishis Why do you ask?
@@c-LAWbecause no one is clear about the truth and y’all just sound like cooky Christian’s gatekeeping enlightenment and heaven again. Y’all never change huh? Just continue to be judgmental, i guess.
That was great!
I love you, Neal. Thanks for these podcasts. So inspiring on so many levels.
Masterclass sounds like a lot of fun. Looking forward to it!
That was so cool Thanks Neal!
Thank you Neal, that was a treat,, had a big smile on my face all the way.
Greetings from Thailand.
2 maestros at work. Well done, Neal. Wish u could have asked him about his voice, but it was AWESOME!
Fascinating conversation from two musical geniuses. So good to hear Jon explaining how the intro to Close to the Edge came about and interesting to hear about his love for Sibelius' music.
What a great episode, thanks!
Would love Jon to sing a part on the next NMB album!
From Master to Master... great this Guys! Thanks for your Inspiration all the Time! 👍
You didn't go on tour with Anderson, Wakeman and Rabin??? WHAAAAAAATTTT???
Favorite part was: when Neal asked : Did they think you were crazy ?? Jon: "I don't care". - I had just seen an older Bruford interview, wherein he had a bit of trouble figuring what Jon was trying to express from time to time in the creation of their music. As a drummer for our worship team every once in awhile I'd have an idea about arrangement. One time i thought the instruments should of cut out for a couple of measures. So I would just cut out myself and the others caught on and thought it was good. In hindsight i can see that Jon's idea worked out well in Close to the Edge, but I can see, at first Bruford's questioning "Why Stop" . It is good as with Jon and the rest of Yes as it is with Portnoy and Neal, to take what seems like obscure ideas that , at 1st, you don't hear, and 'flesh' them out.
This was just awesome! Two of my favorite performers together! Thanks, Neal!!! ♥️😊
Hey I’m here in Blackpool Lancashire listening, about 25 miles away from Accrington where Jon was born
Neal Morse for president!
hey is that the instrument Jon had with him on PNAS and when a girl asked him "How is it called" he answered "Well - i think it´s name is GEORGE" ... omfg what a great event that cruise, wasn´t it, Neal?! Looking forward for CTTE ´22 and to meet you all again!
So funny! Neil is telling Jon what songs are on "The Yes Album" cause Jon doesn't remember! Jon, "I do like to know what I'm talking about." LOL.
Jon is getting up there in years. I have seen several recent interviews where his memories are slightly confused. But even so, he seemed to remember details pretty well in this interview.
@@Paul71H And in all fairness, it was 50 years ago and... we're all here talking about it still. Jon is a world treasure.
@@escommentss 100% agreed. Those classic Yes albums have stood the test of time, and Jon's voice sounds just as good now as it ever did. I have seen Jon in concert a few times over the years with Yes and with ARW, and I hope I'll get a chance to see him again some time.
@@Paul71H I've seen Yes 3 times, '78, '83, and '14 (/w Davison), ABWH in '87. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the ARW lineup but have seen videos. Really loved what the bass player brought to the table. He was awesome!
Aging may have something to do with it, but as hard to believe as it could be, real artists (as Anderson clearly is) don't go around listening to their work over and over again as if it were their own fan. And even more when it comes to the vastness of his work within and outside of Yes. To tell you the truth, it would be quite a feat to remember which album each of his songs is on, even if he was 30 years old.
I love this
What lovely fun! But - sorry Jon, you’re wrong. The Second Symphony is peak
Sibelius. The last few minutes are what heaven sounds like. Bernstein conducting - oh baby! It’s in D major- the happiest key of all.
3:37 His English is pretty good for a foreigner! YES!
I just bought my acces to your masterclass! Amazing, what a good idea! See you soon!
Me too!
Whoever Jacob Collier is he should be quite grateful for that rousing endorsement from Jon
Collier is a phenomenon. Quincy Jones took him under his wing.
Jon: I work with these kids, 13, 14, 15, 16 years old, and they're great!
Do these kids have ANY IDEA how fortunate they are?????
Omg! Shout out for Accy(Accrington). Who knew it looked like california??
Good old Jon - still reverse engineering everything in life to make it fit into his own fantasy. Charmed life.
42:15 Definitely an inspiration for Neal's sound and style. th-cam.com/video/5n26L0qKKT0/w-d-xo.html
Quite Wonderful In So Many Ways .. isn't Jon A Lovely Soul...........Ps Neal any chance of a coffee with Some Other FAb brit Proggers like Andrew Latimer,(Camel)Nick Barratt (Pendragon) or Tony Banks.( GENESIS!!!
)
Neal! :)
Why didn't Neal accept to be ARW's guest on their tour?
good health jon
Hey men! Work together for the good of the Universe!☺️
Met Jon Anderson in 2004 at Trump Marina Casino at his solo show. I carried with me a Tales From Topographic Oceans album cover framed (split the front and interior sections of cover in two, mounted outer cover on top and inner cover on bottom). That framed artwork was very expensive, in addition to years of albums/cd/ticket purchases. When I approached him, I asked him to sign the glass of the framed album. He had no words. I expressed that I was a lifelong fan. After I got out of line, I went back in to get a photo with him. His response was "Oh...this guy again!" Really? What did I do wrong? Only praised him. He is an absolute phony with all his spiritual crap. He disrespected me and ruined a lifelong appreciation of him as an artist. The guy is a phony fake jerk. FYI
Interesting how American Jon's accent has become over time he's been living in the US. Unlike e.g. Rob Halford who still sounds as West Midland-ish as can be😅.
👍
#OliasOfSunhillow
#MoonRa
#Chords
Poor Jon is soooo lost spiritually.
May the Lord Jesus Christ make Himself known to him personally.
There is no other name under heaven and Earth by which to be saved other than Lord Jesus Christ.
Arjan Kiel!
Thank God Jon didn't transfer to China/CCP country because that place is currently shite.
Being in my early 60's, both of these guys have created and been apart of some of the best music I've ever heard...but I'm not sure this "Coffee and Stuff" episode works, it kind of feels forced. Neal and Jon seem to be coming at this from different directions, it's almost like Neal's not really interested in what Jon's saying...they don't seem to have a good rapport like he did with Portnoy. Maybe they have crossed paths in the past, and things aren't that cool between them.
I thought it was really lovely how Neal was so graciously letting Jon reminisce in the beginning. That's being a good host! Tim, do you listen to many podcasts? Hosts need to let the guests speak without interruption. And Neal has already gotten that down as a host. I somewhat held my breath as Neal flat out owned his Christianity (like he always does, good for him!) and wondered how Jon would respond. But they both are surrounded by Divinity and I really thought their conversation was lovely. Didn't really expect anything else as both are such lovely human beings and souls!
That's not my impression at all, they sound engaged and interested in the conversation.
I don’t know that it’s that Neal’s not interested. Having seen a couple of recent interviews with Jon (like Rick Beato’s talk with him) it’s just that Jon’s brain seems to work completely differently from most people’s. Apart from all the mysticism, just threads he follows in his conversations are... well... different. Very interesting, but hard for a technical, organized guy to follow. Totally brilliant ideas at times, but I can see why guys like Bill Bruford sometimes wanted to tear their hair out.
@@stevelacker358 Jon is probably ADHD. Hearing him talk reminds me of trying to hold a serious conversation with my severely ADHD son. His mind is going 1000 mph and there are simply too many thoughts converging at the same time. He jumps from one train of thought to another and it makes it difficult to follow sometimes.
Ok, having read the comments regarding my statement, I must admit that I only watched about half the interview...right about the time I switched it off, it got more interesting. But I am surprised that Neal didn't know about the "Symphonic Yes" DVD...something all true Yes fans should have, It's that good.