"Clayton or his management or people close to him, I'm not sure. But either way rival clubs believe it's not dead in the water." "It might rain this year. Maybe not in Melbourne or Australia but somewhere on earth, it will rain... it's very much alive in the sunshine."
Surely the clubs that might be interested in Oliver will think that Melbourne will agree to pay half his salary. Zurhaar signed a 5 year deal yesterday so he is off the potential list.
I'd say they can definitely afford him monetarily, but they cant afford to spend that much money on a risk when list management team is already on the edge of being dropped. probably one of those bargaining statements to try to get melb to front half of the contract cost
Geelong probably have highly paid players coming off contract. Oh wait, those players are playing for far below their market value because of the lifestyle in Geelong, or so the Geelong supporters have been saying for a long time to explain away the apparent lack of a salary cap their club has. Lets just put it all down to "creative accounting". I refer to them as the CCC, aka the cap cheating Cats.
He said Connor Nash and I’m like please be Essendon and and then you’re like no it’s not Essendon come on he’s reading my mind that’s exactly what they need a tall midfielder! Setters ain’t cutting it.
What are you media on about. Tom Barass going to either Sydney or Melbourne, following his sister He is a big boy now. Perhaps the eagles should draft his sister. Doug Ringholt Yarrawonga.
I think Oliver will be similar to Jack Ginnivan if he was to move in term of his performances becoming a lot better. It is clear that something has been a issue at Melbourne and I think a reset and a fresh start would benefit him.
@@falconmclenny7284 I don’t disagree but with a different environment just like with ginnivan we have seen a change in attitude which may be possible 🤷♂️ I’m not saying it will but clearly nothing happening at Melbourne for him
They have misunderstood how the cohort salary band weighting is calculated it isn’t in reference to free agents from the current year. That whole conversation was useless, what Phil Davis is requesting is exactly the current system.
I tend to agree WC do have the upper hand, he's 29 with $ value he's worth good picks + clubs paying out his contract is he worth that much to other clubs? + a contract @ 29 ? Maybe 2-3 years ago but today? Both will win either way. The big blow will come when Reid leaves.
Why would dees trade a top 5 player in the game (in previous seasons) just to get a 2nd round pick and some cash when they're not even replacing him with a top liner. They won't get Houston or Waterman. It really makes no sense.
It does when that player is no longer a shadow of his former self, has a lot of personal issues that the club has to deal with and eats up a truckload of salary cap space.
@gustaaf1892 very dangerous game to doubt a champion. He had 0 pre-season, was about 10kg overweight and sustained a nasty hand injury. People expecting anything more have probably never played any elite sport in their life.
@@MrMooremelody The Dees should treasure him and hang on to him. Perhaps they should even extend his contract. They would have been aware of some of his issues before they extended his contract on the huge money he is on, which should have made them very cautious. I'm sure there are regrets within the club about Oliver's contract.
According to a Friend, of a Friend who has another Friend, who is Friends with a Friend of player X Sister/Brother tells me, player X is not happy & wants to be traded to Club X I can not disclose my sources
2nd youngest list, if they got Barrass, would help free up Sicily. Not sure how long a contract would be, but as Barrass would finish his contract, there would be plenty of Hawks about to hit their peaks and want to get paid
@@DontWorryBeHappy75Battle makes a lot more sense for the age profile of their list and more importantly the future. Barass will be turning 30 next season and will only have few seasons at best left.
@taliamason7986 maybe he does. I'm not very familiar with Josh Battle, though, so I can't say who is better. Barrass is only 28 and won't turn 30 until after the completion of the 2025 season, he's not quite as old as some think and he beings premiership experience, also Sam Mitchell knows his personality and may think he's a good fit for the team chemistry wise. I hope he stays at the Eagles though
@@DontWorryBeHappy75 brass is a good player but he should aim to play for the premiership side may be we’re still a few years away and we should develop denvor and blac instead but we’ll see Sam knows what to do with his list
Clayton Oliver- form is temporary, class is permanent. Clayton’s at his lowest point in his whole career right now in terms of raw numbers, his ceiling is top 5-10 players in the game. You wouldn’t be trading him let him get his game back after a big preseason
He is because he's in contract. Only makes sense for Eagles to let him go if a team pays over. Also it depends on what pick. Big difference in value between say Pick 5 and Pick 15. Both 1st rounders but big difference. Personally I think they should let him go. They haven't even done one move yet to be considered rebuilding.
I would say a first and second is market value for someone who is top 3 in his position in the competition. I think someone will need to come up with more than picking 12 & 25 for it to be worth while for them to let him go.
Agree… B grader at best … Good player in a poor team… also he seems like a bit of a tee bag….with the way he goes about things.. bit of a distraction… Essendon or GC Would take him…
He spoke to hickmont from h awks last wednesday and sam mitchel flew from adelaide to perth to meet with someone ! Hickmont was a eagles coach and sam played and then coached eagles midfield to a cup! So i think barras goes to hawks they will have higher picks to offer plus denver granger barrass a key back at 21! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆coming next 10 years
Footy media is getting more ridiculous by the day.... shows based on rumours, statistics and speculations.
Nothing else to talk about
Why are these guys so obsessed with Celery Caps, I've always cut them off before I have peanut butter celery sticks 🙄
AFL media was better without Tom Morris for a year
My life was better without Tom Morris for a year tbh
Basically agents talking to these blokes to pump their clients’ prices up
"Clayton or his management or people close to him, I'm not sure. But either way rival clubs believe it's not dead in the water."
"It might rain this year. Maybe not in Melbourne or Australia but somewhere on earth, it will rain... it's very much alive in the sunshine."
Surely the clubs that might be interested in Oliver will think that Melbourne will agree to pay half his salary.
Zurhaar signed a 5 year deal yesterday so he is off the potential list.
How can Adelaide not afford Oliver? They’d have more cap space than most teams
Rankine on big money. Dawson to and gotta be decent cash for some of their talls id think
I'd say they can definitely afford him monetarily, but they cant afford to spend that much money on a risk when list management team is already on the edge of being dropped. probably one of those bargaining statements to try to get melb to front half of the contract cost
@@br0cky226 It's worth the risk
Geelong probably have highly paid players coming off contract. Oh wait, those players are playing for far below their market value because of the lifestyle in Geelong, or so the Geelong supporters have been saying for a long time to explain away the apparent lack of a salary cap their club has. Lets just put it all down to "creative accounting". I refer to them as the CCC, aka the cap cheating Cats.
@@iJoelFRankine isn't on big money. Neither is Dawson. Crows would absolutely have the room.
Bailey smith has apparently been spotted at k park today, rumours are pen was put the paper 🤷🏻♂️
He said Connor Nash and I’m like please be Essendon and and then you’re like no it’s not Essendon come on he’s reading my mind that’s exactly what they need a tall midfielder! Setters ain’t cutting it.
I am an Eagles support and would love to see Barrass go if we can get either top picks from the Hawks or English / Smith from the dogs !
What are you media on about. Tom Barass going to either Sydney or Melbourne, following his sister He is a big boy now. Perhaps the eagles should draft his sister. Doug Ringholt Yarrawonga.
How can Adelaide not afford him, but Geelong can??
we have competent list managers and Adelaide dont?
Geelong for many years have been cheating the sal cap. 100%.😊
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 surre Jan
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 catch us if you can.
I think Oliver will be similar to Jack Ginnivan if he was to move in term of his performances becoming a lot better. It is clear that something has been a issue at Melbourne and I think a reset and a fresh start would benefit him.
You can get cocaine anywhere, not just the melbourne football club.
If the mental health and substance issues is correct they won't just go away. He might be more like Tarryn Thomas than Ginnivan.
Oliver may have his issues but his no Thomas
@@falconmclenny7284 I don’t disagree but with a different environment just like with ginnivan we have seen a change in attitude which may be possible 🤷♂️ I’m not saying it will but clearly nothing happening at Melbourne for him
They have misunderstood how the cohort salary band weighting is calculated it isn’t in reference to free agents from the current year. That whole conversation was useless, what Phil Davis is requesting is exactly the current system.
3 years in a row Barrass has looked elsewhere, Eagles should just hold firm, call his bluff, and get a decent pick if it comes to it
Other clubs have come knocking, but he's knocked them back previous seasons. He may go this time, but I have doubts he will
I would be trading him
I tend to agree WC do have the upper hand, he's 29 with $ value he's worth good picks + clubs paying out his contract is he worth that much to other clubs? + a contract @ 29 ? Maybe 2-3 years ago but today?
Both will win either way. The big blow will come when Reid leaves.
Bulldogs do not need him tf we have lobb jones buku and young guy in busslinger
Especially if the price is so high, surely that pick capital can be better used elsewhere
Busslinger be part of the deal
Why would dees trade a top 5 player in the game (in previous seasons) just to get a 2nd round pick and some cash when they're not even replacing him with a top liner. They won't get Houston or Waterman. It really makes no sense.
It does when that player is no longer a shadow of his former self, has a lot of personal issues that the club has to deal with and eats up a truckload of salary cap space.
@gustaaf1892 very dangerous game to doubt a champion. He had 0 pre-season, was about 10kg overweight and sustained a nasty hand injury. People expecting anything more have probably never played any elite sport in their life.
@@MrMooremelody The Dees should treasure him and hang on to him. Perhaps they should even extend his contract. They would have been aware of some of his issues before they extended his contract on the huge money he is on, which should have made them very cautious. I'm sure there are regrets within the club about Oliver's contract.
This guy is an absolute flog, I've been a bullshit artist my entire life and can see one from a mile away... AFL journalism is in the gutter.
How barass is worth more than Oliver is beyond me
He is the reason eagles don’t lose by 110 each week ya nuffy
Hilarious! Davis, a key back, unsurprisingly rates another key back unbelievably highly. A first and a second rounder for Barrass is laughable.
Maybe 3 years ago he was, but what is he like 29yo now? He wants a retirement contract
@@ray.shoesmith Spot on 👌
Boston Tom 'if you're not with me, you're against me'
Barrass if he plays for Hawthorn , i reckon based on their team now he could help Hawthorn win a premiership.
No doubt he is worth every cent.
Hasn't zurhaar re signed?
This would be from yesterday so they wouldn’t have the news or it was before
5 years.
Doggies don't need Barrass they have The Buzz developing in the Magoo's .
According to a Friend, of a Friend who has another Friend, who is Friends with a Friend of player X Sister/Brother tells me, player X is not happy & wants to be traded to Club X
I can not disclose my sources
Why would hawthorn go after a 29yo?
2nd youngest list, if they got Barrass, would help free up Sicily. Not sure how long a contract would be, but as Barrass would finish his contract, there would be plenty of Hawks about to hit their peaks and want to get paid
@@DontWorryBeHappy75Battle makes a lot more sense for the age profile of their list and more importantly the future. Barass will be turning 30 next season and will only have few seasons at best left.
@taliamason7986 maybe he does. I'm not very familiar with Josh Battle, though, so I can't say who is better. Barrass is only 28 and won't turn 30 until after the completion of the 2025 season, he's not quite as old as some think and he beings premiership experience, also Sam Mitchell knows his personality and may think he's a good fit for the team chemistry wise. I hope he stays at the Eagles though
@@DontWorryBeHappy75 brass is a good player but he should aim to play for the premiership side may be we’re still a few years away and we should develop denvor and blac instead but we’ll see Sam knows what to do with his list
Clearly they believe they're in the window. Looking at their current form it's a compelling argument
Come to the Hawks Tom Barrass 💛🤎
Josh Battle is a star and should be worth a 1st round pick. Young and plays in a strong defence worth heaps more than Barrass
99% of people couldn't pick him out of a crowd. He is not a star. End of first round would still be overs
@@Bruce.Wallace hahah yeah it matters what you look like? Could anyone pick out Sam Taylor or Harris Andrews... good point muppet
Rowan are you a saints fan
Battle is not as good as Barass
@@user-ln8we1ud9c age makes a huge difference in worth imo
Crows cant afford Clarry but Geelong can?
Clayton Oliver- form is temporary, class is permanent. Clayton’s at his lowest point in his whole career right now in terms of raw numbers, his ceiling is top 5-10 players in the game. You wouldn’t be trading him let him get his game back after a big preseason
Davis is kidding himself if he thinks Barrass who'll be 29 before next year is worth a first and a second round pick. No way. What's he smoking?
He is because he's in contract. Only makes sense for Eagles to let him go if a team pays over. Also it depends on what pick. Big difference in value between say Pick 5 and Pick 15. Both 1st rounders but big difference. Personally I think they should let him go. They haven't even done one move yet to be considered rebuilding.
I would say a first and second is market value for someone who is top 3 in his position in the competition.
I think someone will need to come up with more than picking 12 & 25 for it to be worth while for them to let him go.
Agree… B grader at best … Good player in a poor team… also he seems like a bit of a tee bag….with the way he goes about things.. bit of a distraction… Essendon or GC Would take him…
@@JGFormentinI'm an eagles fan and WCE haven't made many moves but they did pick swap pick 2 for 8-12 in 2022. Not much but at least something
He spoke to hickmont from h awks last wednesday and sam mitchel flew from adelaide to perth to meet with someone ! Hickmont was a eagles coach and sam played and then coached eagles midfield to a cup! So i think barras goes to hawks they will have higher picks to offer plus denver granger barrass a key back at 21! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆coming next 10 years
gaugeous
0.0002% of these rumours ever happen
Should just write and sign contracts on toilet paper. So many end up in the dunny 🚽 anyway. Meaningless paper
He's 29 he got played by west coast but that's just west aussie arrogance.
Basically any star is only going to a victorian club according to this chin strap tim morris.
Sadly he probably should go
Stop entertaining Steele from the Saints. Neither party want to leave and it’s not going to happen. Save yourselves the future embarrassment.
BS 95%
Davis is a hack .
Barass is 29
He would be one of the 4th oldedt player on hawthorns list
Maybe 3 good years left in him
After 32vmost players syruggle
Barras should leave that west toast sore lossers, let him taste some success
Phil Davis is a boring .
Tom Morris 8==D