History-Makers: Iceland's #1 Menace, Snorri Sturluson

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  • @mrmackinac5266
    @mrmackinac5266 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3253

    Oh god, he finally did it. He actually talked about Snorri. Blue, blink twice if you need help.

    • @TheHighDerple
      @TheHighDerple 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +237

      he can't, his eyes were taped open by snorri himself

    • @InExcelsisDeo
      @InExcelsisDeo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +193

      You can't help him. *RED* has him. *Shudder

    • @jakesetzer8377
      @jakesetzer8377 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

      Blue, you can stop blinking now. We understand you need help

    • @electricangel4488
      @electricangel4488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Red litteraly did give him eyelids

    • @EndorphinSauce
      @EndorphinSauce 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      It’s okay he still mentioned Greece, we’re good.

  • @unnarthorthorisson5421
    @unnarthorthorisson5421 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +969

    Icelander here: It's also OUR swagony. We've built like half our culture from that book. Whether that's a GOOD idea is questionable, but we damn done did it.

    • @fenixchief7
      @fenixchief7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Not your fault, its literally all you had.

    • @SleepyOmel
      @SleepyOmel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I love our home

    • @guggelguggel7491
      @guggelguggel7491 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@fenixchief7 hon, the sagas. You forgot the sagas. Cant forget them sagas.

    • @WarMonger_the-One-and-Only
      @WarMonger_the-One-and-Only 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Firstly, my condolences on building half your culture on Snorri Sturluson's Ancient Aliens audition.
      Secondly, congratulations on building half your culture on Snorri Sturluson's Ancient Aliens audition.

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Beautiful.

  • @KianaWolf
    @KianaWolf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +728

    "This man is the equivalent of if William Shakespeare personally started the War of the Roses."
    That's an evocative analogy. Also: _Yikes._

    • @DKdrop
      @DKdrop หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’d probably go for a more recent example: Sturleson is like if Victor Hugo had actually gone through with that bid to become dictator of France.

    • @samrevlej9331
      @samrevlej9331 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DKdrop What the hell are you talking about? That was never an option.

  • @elizaripper
    @elizaripper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2457

    He’s not the insane Icelandic historian we deserved but he’s the one we…have.💙

    • @darkfool2000
      @darkfool2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I dunno, It says a lot about a society when that guy is your best historian. Maybe Norse mythology isn't worth preserving, the Norse clearly didn't try enough to do it themselves.

    • @Freekymoho
      @Freekymoho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

      ​@@darkfool2000bad take

    • @orbaboar5165
      @orbaboar5165 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

      ​@@darkfool2000take an L buddy

    • @snazzysaturn1865
      @snazzysaturn1865 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

      ⁠@@darkfool2000ayo gonna be real chief that’s the worst take I’ve seen in awhile. No it’s not a good idea to let a cultural history die just because the guy writing it was a little biased. Every culture throughout history had different ways of keeping their beliefs and histories over the centuries. By your logic we should let Greek mythology die just because for a few hundred years their historians were orator’s and not writers and thus didn’t preserve their culture well.

    • @electricangel4488
      @electricangel4488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

      ​@@darkfool2000that would apply to like all of native american and african history and mythology soo..... no

  • @merrittanimation7721
    @merrittanimation7721 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1955

    Norse myth consists of:
    Poems by (error not found)
    Various offhand references elsewhere
    And a book by THE MOST UNHINGED MAN IN NORWEGIAN AND ICELANDIC HISTORY

    • @annekeener4119
      @annekeener4119 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

      What’s sad is I can see what Snorri was trying to do, he just did it so poorly. Snorri realized that the kingdom of Norway absorbing tiny Iceland was probably inevitable, but he was trying to make it as bloodless as possible by turning it from a war of conquest to a simple vote. He eventually got the outcome he wanted but it happened several decades after his death. The problem is he rushed things, resulting in a bloody civil war and his own assassination.

    • @sejsuper4660
      @sejsuper4660 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      and dont forget the handful of very obscure references in random sagas that are like a thousand pages long and TOTALLY not boring

    • @lococomrade3488
      @lococomrade3488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      [Insert Christian editors]

    • @ΣτελιοςΠεππας
      @ΣτελιοςΠεππας 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Barbarian problems, don't want to know.
      Southerners, probably.

    • @Popepaladin
      @Popepaladin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Based on this video he didn't seem to do anything that unhinged other than.... have children and partake in medieval politics?

  • @twojuiceman
    @twojuiceman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +783

    The fact that the Völuspá can be dated to the pre-Christian 900s based on vowel stress patterns is almost the coolest fact in here. Linguists are so cool.

    • @Valery0p5
      @Valery0p5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Also we can finally tell Red to calm down with her Anti-Christianization bias...

    • @twojuiceman
      @twojuiceman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      Hmmm, no, Snorri's bias can't be ignored. Blue concludes that Snorri's _generally_ trustworthy in spite of his biases, but living 200 years after Iceland's adoption of Christianity means he's not exactly a primary source on Norse mythology. A valuable source, certainly, but perhaps not authoritative.

    • @FaelumbreProject
      @FaelumbreProject 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      @@twojuicemanit's also the problem of a good source that Red talks about at length in the Loki video. We have to mostly-trust Snorri and the Poetic Edda because we have negligible amounts of *anything else*. If someone digs up an 800s archive of stories by a miracle, we can talk about dropping specific stories as sources, but right now there's so little to compare them to.

    • @averywhitaker3513
      @averywhitaker3513 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Valery0p5 who isnt anti-christianization? who likes culture and history being erased by anyone, let alone christians

    • @TheHibiscus
      @TheHibiscus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      No way bro is arguing that Christianization (specifically the part where it steamrolls other religions/mythologies) is good on a norse mythology video 💀

  • @hansoskar1911
    @hansoskar1911 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1970

    The "Aesir are Trojans" is almost Assassins Creed level of storyteling fuckery.

    • @fluxk7506
      @fluxk7506 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      IS there a long tradition of connecting your people back to the Trojan war, yes. Making the Trojans gods, crazy talk. But assassin's creed did pull this crap. Since the game has equated myth and gods with the isu, and most stories of the Trojan war fall under myths, the game arrives at the Aesir are the same people as the Trojans, and that's just one step a way.

    • @EliSkylander
      @EliSkylander 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      Behold. God of War: Ragnarok. Long foretold.

    • @someguydavies2313
      @someguydavies2313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      It was surprisingly common for people all across medieval Europe to claim ancestry from the Trojans somehow. Even the Cornish did it.

    • @LordRavensong
      @LordRavensong 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Just wait till you see what the Arthurian authors did with Britain...

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      @@someguydavies2313 Yeah, AFAICT, the essential conceit is, "Look, y'all know about these mythic heroes? We're legit, because we're *descended* from them."

  • @thedukeofchutney468
    @thedukeofchutney468 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +965

    You know someone’s either crazy or brilliant when he’s described as: “The one who makes Diogenes seem tame.”

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      The tragedy they lived over a millennium apart from each other

    • @misteraskman3668
      @misteraskman3668 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      ​@@merrittanimation7721 Maybe it was fortunate.

    • @Hallows4
      @Hallows4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      You assume those two qualities are mutually exclusive😅

    • @marmyeater
      @marmyeater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's the first one this time.

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      I mean, it's true. Diogenes didn't go around starting wars that lasted generations, he just pissed in the street and threw plucked chickens at Plato.

  • @mikewinans5091
    @mikewinans5091 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +317

    I saw Snorri Sturluson in the title and expected Red’s voice. Then I realized it was a History-Makers video and realized we were in for a treat today.

  • @parkerdixon-word6295
    @parkerdixon-word6295 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +181

    "Grima Wormtongue Grindset" is a phrase I did not know I needed in my vocabulary.

  • @annekeener4119
    @annekeener4119 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +979

    Now the complete and utter disdain Blue, Red, and Yellow have for Snorri makes perfect sense. Snorri has the troublemaking skills of Alcibiades while being a legitimate poet, running around until he got smacked in the face with the consequences of his actions.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

      “Oh no, the consequences of my actions!” -Snorri Sturluson, September 1241

    • @wadespencer3623
      @wadespencer3623 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      @@merrittanimation7721 "OW MY HUBRIS!" -Seconds later, when the knives got him

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Just because he’s a wreck does not mean he’s a lousy writer

    • @Segalmed
      @Segalmed 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@wadespencer3623 According to tradition his last words were actually "Do not strike!" (=please, don't kill me)

    • @hermangrinden1283
      @hermangrinden1283 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      who is Yellow?

  • @Rutgerman95
    @Rutgerman95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +252

    Its says a lot when even the title comes out the gate with "This man is nuts"

    • @AnimeSunglasses
      @AnimeSunglasses 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "We haven't seen someone outdo his own wack reputation since the last Pope Fight. Buckle up, kiddos!"

  • @matthewcline2405
    @matthewcline2405 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +349

    The concept that the poetic Edda is like a DBZ abridged to the post Christianized versions of the myths is wild, but less surprising than I expected.

    • @XenonPrimeSBSV
      @XenonPrimeSBSV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      Good Lord, imagine trying to reconstruct the story of the entirety of Dragonball, OG, Z, Super and GT but all you have is Abridged and the Buu Bits to work with.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@XenonPrimeSBSVOTOH SAO would be better if only the Abridged was left

    • @shadowldrago
      @shadowldrago 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@XenonPrimeSBSV It would be fascinating to see someone try.

    • @HamTransitHistory
      @HamTransitHistory 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@williamchamberlain2263YOU FOOL YOU'VE DOOMED US ALLLLLL

    • @chronikhiles
      @chronikhiles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "It doesn't mean God, don't bow."

  • @CaraiseLink
    @CaraiseLink 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +208

    Blue: "Here's why you shouldn't despise Snorri's writing so much."
    Me: "Whoa?! Awesome, tha- "
    Blue: "And here's why you should despise Snorri himself way more."
    Me: "...nks..."

  • @tombouric
    @tombouric 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    The thought of William Shakespeare causing the War of the Roses just so he could have material for his plays is a blursed one.

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That would make plenty of sense in the Sandman universe.

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +440

    Not sure what makes me laugh harder, “Loki-brained”, “Horri Sturlson” or “Swagony”.

    • @seven-cats-3
      @seven-cats-3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      My favourite was "the Grima Wormtongue grindset"

    • @arlokloiber2715
      @arlokloiber2715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Blue just droppin linguistic gems

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +486

    I love how straightforward Norse-based terms are.
    "We need a name for a thing that represents all of us."
    "ALLTHING!"

    • @IISheireenII
      @IISheireenII 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      The meaning of "thing" has changed a lot. It used to mean legal thing, courtroom stuff and things like that. Then it's meaning got widened to other things until anything could be a thing.
      Explaining the meaning of a thing is very hard when using it in other cases is just so convenient...

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@IISheireenII Yeah, I figured it has a history like that, but you can still see how it got its meaning in English so clearly.

    • @I-the-red
      @I-the-red 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      In modern Norwegian, the term 'court house' is 'tinghus', translated directly as 'thing house'. The regional courts also all end with '-ting', and the Norwegian parliament is called 'The Great Thing'.
      Signed, a Norwegian

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      The term "republic" comes from the Latin "res publica" or "the public thing". Similarly intended to be a legal concept, but "res" is usually translated as "thing", with its attendant broad connotations.

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@cheezemonkeyeater A thing in Germanic cultures can be roughly translated as assembly (folkmoot is a synonym for thing). So althing basically means 'Assembly of All'. Norway's parliament is the Sorting, which means 'Great Thing' (through linguistic evolution, Norse Thing became Norwegian Ting).

  • @bubbisvali
    @bubbisvali 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +561

    Good to see my 32nd or something great-grandfather get the props he deserves.

    • @kay_faraday
      @kay_faraday 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Same here!

    • @lorcogoth1
      @lorcogoth1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      with what I know of Iceland and what I just learned about Snorri, it does feel like this is a claim that a lot of icelanders can call upon.

    • @gelya420
      @gelya420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I'm now just imagining they do a video on the about the British upon the Irish, I only have one pic of Dobb's castle from after it was rightfully bombed; the Dobb's occasionally pop up in history, never the right side of it

    • @kay_faraday
      @kay_faraday 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@lorcogoth1Yeah, probably. I've personally examined my family tree and traced it back to one of Snorri's daughters.

    • @DimaJeydar
      @DimaJeydar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kay_faradaywow, the earliest ancestors we could trace are only from early 1800s. Iceland has to have pretty good archives and documentation.

  • @minetieplays2092
    @minetieplays2092 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    "iceland's agony is our swagony" is one hell of a quote

  • @salamisofdragons4597
    @salamisofdragons4597 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    I see Red's anger towards Snorri has dipped into her artwork.
    EDIT: I take it back. All the pictures of Snorri look like that.

    • @emmarichardson965
      @emmarichardson965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Damn, you're right. I thought the same thing at first! 🤣

  • @octo4012
    @octo4012 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

    I was visiting Iceland back in 2022 and sort of on a whim visited the site where Snorri’s house used to be. They’ve reconstructed the pool he used to use, but kept the ruins of the house as they are. Visiting sent me down a rabbit hole of figuring out what was up with that dude, so I’m quite excited to learn more.

  • @theexplosive1062
    @theexplosive1062 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

    My heart skipped a beat when I found out there was a brand new video from OSP regarding not only literally anything regarding iceland, but Snorri Sturluson of all people. Fun fact: He’s my great great great something grandfather, but who in Iceland isn’t related to him

    • @richeybaumann1755
      @richeybaumann1755 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Who in Iceland isn't related to everyone else? When your country needs a whole app to prevent accidental inbreeding, I'd say there's a distinct lack of genetic diversity going on.
      When I first learned about Sifjaspellsspillir, I refused to believe that it was true, but it turns out that yeah, it's legit.

    • @theexplosive1062
      @theexplosive1062 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@richeybaumann1755 wait is Sifjaspellsspillir and Íslendingabók the same? Or are there two incest prevention websites?

    • @merchantmaker1771
      @merchantmaker1771 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richeybaumann1755 That's not quite correct. The app exists but it was made for a contest using the genealogy database from Íslendingabók. It's main feature was finding how two relatives were related, the "incest bump" was added as a joke. The app isn't even easily available and I've never seen or heard of anyone actually using it IRL

    • @Pumbli
      @Pumbli 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@richeybaumann1755 Sifjaspellsspillir was added as a playful option to the extensive Icelandic genealogical database called Íslendingabók. It's not an app in and of itself. People in Iceland do not check the database to prevent inbreeding.
      Honestly weird how well that urban legend stuck, like the one where Iceland supposedly jailed all the bankers after the 2008 collapse. Clickbait media is so strange.

    • @shadowturtleyinyang
      @shadowturtleyinyang 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yeah just checked my great grandpa too

  • @cycloneabsol9405
    @cycloneabsol9405 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +292

    OSP be like "Get me pictures of Sturluson!"

  • @Mortices
    @Mortices 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Our boy Snorri participating in the age-old tradition of attributing the origins of present-day culture to survivors of Troy. Virgil and Geoffrey would be proud.

  • @MartyMango0
    @MartyMango0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Something I learned in my Norse myth & Old English poetry classes in college is that it's believed a part of why Snorri used the mythology as examples for poets (beyond them being compelling stories & his political goals) is kennings. Kennings are standardized poetic metaphors used in Germanic & Norse poetry to refer to things in ways that fit their syllable-based poetic structures (ex. "swan road" & "whale-path" both mean the sea). Many older kennings are references to myth, so the thought is Snorri not only wanted to show the shared heritage via shared mythology but also wanted the poets learning from his writing to be able to understand myth-inspired kennings in the existing poetry and to be able to use them well & accurately - based on knowledge of the tales they derived from - in their own poems.

    • @Ludohistory
      @Ludohistory 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'd argue that that's the primary reason he is writing it! Skaldskaparmal, the 3rd part of the Prose Edda (if you count the Prologue that Snorri didn't write), is entirely lists of kennings for all the mythological figures plus horses, swords, the sea, Jesus, etc! Ynglinga saga, also by Snorri, is a much more straightforwardly narrative source that incorporates mythological elements and so more neatly fits into Snorri's at-that-moment friendship with Hakon IV

  • @matthewmuir8884
    @matthewmuir8884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    Snorri sounds crazy, but also a lot more trustworthy a recorder of local mythology than Geoffrey of Monmouth: a man who wrote about Welsh mythology (King Arthur) while being an English noble working closely with English royalty, and who claimed to just be translating an old Welsh text even though he evidently wasn't very fluent in Welsh.
    Seriously; in his book, he refers to the Welsh name Pendragon (which translates literally as "head dragon") as meaning "head of a dragon", but "Pen" does not mean a literal head; it means "head" as in "chief".

    • @RupertMDoc
      @RupertMDoc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey, there is a super complicated board game called Pendragon: Fall of Roman Britain. You need to check it out.

    • @John_Weiss
      @John_Weiss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Oh, look at his name again: "Geoffrey" of Monmouth isn't exactly a good Anglo-Saxon name there. He was _Norman._ So a descendant of the _Norman_ invaders of England, who already had a great deal of disdain for the Anglo-Saxon populace, writing about Welsh mythology. So disdain-squared.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@John_Weiss I am aware, but thanks. I know all this because I took a course on Arthurian literature as an elective at university, and we discussed Geoffrey of Monmouth in the first part of the course. He very much wrote _The History of the Kings of Britain_ to give the Norman rule of Britain justification.

    • @John_Weiss
      @John_Weiss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@matthewmuir8884 I didn't know that last part! Thanks.
      [And sorry about stating what was obvious to you. It wasn't clear. I just wanted to point out just how _severe_ the disdain would've been.]

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@John_Weiss You're welcome. No apology necessary; I completely understand.
      One thing worth noting is how the death of Arthur is written: in Welsh versions of Arthur's death, it's always stated that he was taken to Avalon to be healed and he will return one day in Britain's hour of need (this enabled Welsh armies to use Arthur as a symbol of resistance against England). English versions, by contrast, still mention Avalon, but they insist that Arthur died and is never returning (this not only was meant to kill any hope of Arthur returning, but also to allow English kings to insist that, metaphorically, they are King Arthur and that they are the rightful rulers of Britain by right of conquest).
      In _History of the Kings of Britain,_ Geoffrey insists that Arthur is dead and will never return. He also is weirdly insistent that "right of conquest" is a valid reason for being the rightful ruler despite Arthur being rightful ruler due to being the son of Uther Pendragon.

  • @FirstLast-cg2nk
    @FirstLast-cg2nk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    It is important to remember that people who were extremely important in the history and culture were often also involved in politics. Take, for example, Sen no Rikyū, a Japanese master of the tea ceremony who served during Oda Nobunaga's and Hideyoshi Toyotomi's time who was foundational for much of the culture surrounding the tea ceremony, and was also such a political powerhouse that despite being of common birth was one of the most powerful men in Japan.

  • @TheDanishGuyReviews
    @TheDanishGuyReviews 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    I love that Snorri's life ended like the South Park gag "Kick the Baby!" It's so tragically amusing that I made that connection.
    Snorri got kidnapped, and the guy holds up a knife:
    "I'll stab you!"
    "You shouldn't stab me!"
    *stab*

    • @Kartissa
      @Kartissa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      "What are you going to do? Stab me?" - Last words of a man who was stabbed to death.

  • @janmelantu7490
    @janmelantu7490 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    “That’s right, Snorri Sturluson Ancient Aliens’d himself” -Red, OSP Loki video

  • @juliagoodwin9510
    @juliagoodwin9510 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I love how Snorri is drawn as if he has a hatred for everything and everything around him.

    • @foldabotZ
      @foldabotZ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I'm pretty sure it's based on Red's previous rendition of Diogenes in the Greek Wise Guys video.
      Implying Snorri is really just an immortal Diogenes who, after a thousand years, settled on Iceland and changed his name.

    • @connormcgee4711
      @connormcgee4711 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The other art I've seen of him - even statues - portray him frowning. Very unusual feature

  • @brya9681
    @brya9681 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    I'm waiting for a video on Aspasia, wife the leader of Athens during Athens does an empire arch Pericles. She was such a badass, men in the very patriarchal ancient Greece showed her immense respect. Socrates even called her the first true philosopher king.

  • @romance6933
    @romance6933 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    B4 this vid I really thought Snorri was a just a bookworm. Akin to Shakespeare starting the War of the Roses is hilarious

  • @TimidTerrapin
    @TimidTerrapin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Hi, I'm Icelandic. Snorri was a real bad boy. Outside of the Sturlungaöld, our great historical battles usually had fighters in the double digits, total. But what really got me was "Iceland's agony is our swagony". Thanks for the video!

  • @Petrico94
    @Petrico94 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I designed a dwarf warlock for tabletop based on this guy, glad to hear his historic backstory is just as crazy.

  • @samastrova5099
    @samastrova5099 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +375

    So Vikings were like "psh who needs paper when we can yell FOR ODIN!!"

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I will no longer yell for Odin father, but Jesus.
      Oh. Ohhhhhh. That's why we're supposed to write it all dow- hurk

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Ye olde version of "Why read a book when I have TV?"

    • @ThorirPP
      @ThorirPP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I mean, oral stories where just how people told stories in the old days. Even the greek myths were from people (such as Homer) writing down orally told stories that had been passed down for generation
      Basically, it is not really that unique

    • @micp4130
      @micp4130 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I mean vikings weren't unique in that. There is a quote from some Greek philosopher or poet or something that complains about how everyone is writing things down these days, and everyone's brains are deteriorating because they won't have to remember anything anymore - a quote we only have because someone wrote it down.
      Before then writing was only for trading and keeping track of your stores which was unceremoniously thrown out afterwards and everything *important* was phrased in verse and remembered in oral tradition.

    • @lysanamcmillan7972
      @lysanamcmillan7972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are a fair number of modern Norse Pagans, especially in some parts of the US, who do exactly the same thing, only as a drunkenness test. "If I can scream for the Alfather and not fall over, I am not drunk enough."

  • @danamulter
    @danamulter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bro your presentation manages to be dense while not overwhelming, concise while respectful, and entertaining while not being lame. You actually keep getting better, and I think that's great.

  • @runningthemeta5570
    @runningthemeta5570 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Hell yeah! One of my classes is looking at the Poetic Edda this week. So I’m glad to learn more about Snorri.

    • @thegurw1994
      @thegurw1994 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't forget to look at Red's previous complaints about the Eddas, and look forward to her video later this week!

    • @runningthemeta5570
      @runningthemeta5570 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thegurw1994I’m fairly familiar, but thank you nonetheless. It would be good to review them.

    • @redwitch12
      @redwitch12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You get to roll into that class with "This man was a menace to Icelandic society, but the literary world is grateful to him anyway" in mind!

  • @JamesPickering-ou3hr
    @JamesPickering-ou3hr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Blue, I’m doing a brief six-month study abroad to Iceland, so your timing is CRAZY! But I’m gonna be interviewing several people including professors of Norse Religion and members of the Ásatrúarfélagið! Thanks for the insight into the culture, and the guy who told so many of the stories that are relevant to my religion!

    • @Ludohistory
      @Ludohistory 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      have fun! You interviewing Armann and Terry?

    • @JamesPickering-ou3hr
      @JamesPickering-ou3hr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ludohistory Terry Gunnell? Yes, he’s one of the interviews I have set up! I didn’t reach out to Armann though. I’m an introvert by nature and still in undergrad, so I was only able to muster up the courage to reach out to one professional. That being said, I’m also working on locking down a few more, interviews with people who have done their MA/PhD on the Felagið, but no responses yet, unfortunately.

    • @ladygrey7425
      @ladygrey7425 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hail to the gods, friend!

    • @JamesPickering-ou3hr
      @JamesPickering-ou3hr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ladygrey7425Skál! Glad to find a fellow Heathen!

    • @Kat-gp6gj
      @Kat-gp6gj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Study abroad in Iceland?! I'm so jealous! What an amazing opportunity!

  • @FreshestSoup
    @FreshestSoup 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    The most fascinating thing about this trojan hero backstory is, that the idea of "Trojans leaving the city after its fall, crossing the sea and founding a new country" is not the Illiad or the Odyssey - that's the Aeneid.
    Snorri needed a framing device and decided on the roman founding myth of all things, effectively equating Iceland with Rome. The man really knew no restraint.

    • @Rukdug
      @Rukdug 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      To be fair, it's harder to find a culture in Western Europe that HASN'T had at least one author try the "We're secretly Trojans" schtick. The French did it back when they were the Franks, the English did it for London, etc.

    • @JulianLopez-rt6kp
      @JulianLopez-rt6kp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@RukdugSo they took pride on the fact their ancestors were defeated by the achaeans? Or just wanted to link themselves to a famous book?

    • @Rukdug
      @Rukdug 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JulianLopez-rt6kp It was more a way to claim being cousins of the Romans. There was also a lot of "Aside from Paris, the Trojans did nothing wrong!" feelings for a long time in Europe thanks to what few sources remaining being Roman and thus very pro-Trojan, which basically lay the cause of Troy's defeat and destruction squarely on the feet of Divine Intervention and some weird conspiracy by the gods to fix human overpopulation. Cause the Greek Gods apparently couldn't be bothered to ask their Sumerian cousins how you actually do it: with a big ass flood.

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@JulianLopez-rt6kp Yes.

    • @a.d.t.mapping
      @a.d.t.mapping 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@JulianLopez-rt6kpWell the Greeks had dibs on being descendants of the Achaeans, so they had to make do with what they got

  • @kay_faraday
    @kay_faraday 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    One note, despite Snorri having been largely responsible for Iceland's biggest period of violence, he was pretty much a non-combatant himself. His death allegedly had him beg for mercy, according to his killers, which may not have been a reliable source, but it seems likely that he wasn't fully capable of fighting back.

    • @merchantmaker1771
      @merchantmaker1771 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      His final words were allegedly 'Eigi skal höggva!' which roughly translates to 'Do not chop!'. And he was 62 at the time of his death so I doubt he would have been in much condition to fight

    • @lyinar
      @lyinar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@merchantmaker1771 Him having last words that roughly translate to "AAAH! NO STABBY!" is simultaneously hilarious and ridiculously sad.

    • @ErikHolten
      @ErikHolten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lyinar Some have made a point out of the peculiar ambiguity of the phrase, which could be interpreted as an appeal for an end to the barbarities, rather than a plea for his own life.

    • @lyinar
      @lyinar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ErikHolten Honestly, "NO STABBY!" memes just as well for that interpretation, too. Exasperated pleading over the general stabbiness he caused, instead of terrified pleading about the impending personal-scale stabbiness.

  • @louisduarte8763
    @louisduarte8763 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    2:06 "My brothers, we must struggle together!" "We are! Oof!"
    I shall endeavor to use "Loki-brained" and "swagony" in conversation.

  • @mrskundi8365
    @mrskundi8365 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Fun fact:snorri's last name literally means insane in icelandic now "Sturlaður"

  • @pendragon2012
    @pendragon2012 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Great take, Blue! "Essentially, we have to, but actually, we kind of can."

  • @mueezadam8438
    @mueezadam8438 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I’m not Nordic but it eats me up inside that we only have a fraction of a fraction of these wonderful peoples’ history left 💔

    • @lauraknight5973
      @lauraknight5973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm not Nordic, but I AM obsessed with history and folklore, and the fact we comparatively have so little knowledge and stories from the past pains me to no end.

  • @oriane4811
    @oriane4811 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    3:13 I wish I could use "so nyeh" in my uni homeworks and call it a day 😂 It would be so useful !

    • @Galimeer5
      @Galimeer5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      *3:09

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Go into math. That's what QED means.

  • @theanimeunderworld8338
    @theanimeunderworld8338 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Another Friday, another OSP video
    Thanks, Blue!

  • @justahobbiest
    @justahobbiest 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love the blend of mythology with History and how it affected the relationships in its regions

  • @sydneealyse1932
    @sydneealyse1932 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I’m literally in a history of Norse mythology through media class rn and god we rant about snorri in that class constantly, this came at an oddly great time for me lol since finals are in a few weeks (also don’t quote me on this, but we have an international student from Iceland in that class and he’s informed us that it’s actually pronounced snorr-uh not snorr-e, but I’m not from Iceland myself so if what he said is wrong don’t come for me lol)

    • @S1mplyK4th
      @S1mplyK4th 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Its pronounced “snorr -ih (heavy n and r’s)”

  • @Stoneworks
    @Stoneworks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    "Iceland's agony is our swaggony" is a terrible line, made me crack up

  • @robsonrobson9905
    @robsonrobson9905 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As someone built to stay up late and who finds memorising and repeating spoken information really easy I'm honestly kinda mad that "local storyteller" isn't a viable career path anymore. My (extremely distant) Viking ancestors call to me 😂😂😂

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    veterans from the Trojan conflict being gods sounds like a good fantasy series of books in the making

  • @barbarafraser9387
    @barbarafraser9387 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    If you guys ever go the Icelandic route again. Please do Egil’s Saga: it’s a helluva ride. Berserker poet and two fisted drinker with a body count at age three.

    • @ErikHolten
      @ErikHolten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, might have been written by Snorri!

    • @barbarafraser9387
      @barbarafraser9387 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ErikHolten Which makes me wonder if it’s not autobiographical. Because Egil Skallagrimson is a Loki tier madlad throughout the book. He gets kidnapped, escapes then realizes a la Odysseus that his captor should know who outsmarted him. Then proceeds to burn the guy’s house down.
      Then he writes one of the most searing and powerful poetic explorations of grief following the death of a child, more gutting than anything he did in battle. Gods I love that saga.

  • @ellymyths
    @ellymyths 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In the future I was thinking of going into Scandinavian Mythology and this gave me a great example of the frustrations and headaches I will face

  • @k.linn_0
    @k.linn_0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm writing essay on the impact of rewriting this is really good research/context thank u blue!

  • @chrisxd96
    @chrisxd96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If you go to the saga museum in Iceland, they have a great small exhibit about him.

  • @DoomMomDot
    @DoomMomDot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I did not know Iceland had gotten up to that kind of shenanigans. Thanks for this, Blue!

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nice to see History Makers again 😊

  • @PLScypion
    @PLScypion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Until this day I never heard of Snorri Sturluson but he's already my favourite Icelander and I love this tornado of myschief.

  • @gunpowdergelatine6358
    @gunpowdergelatine6358 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Your agony is my swaggony… just perfect

  • @quinn0517
    @quinn0517 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ive been waiting for this day. I KNEW eventually there would be a Snorri vid

  • @samminden1058
    @samminden1058 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    A great video though I am surprised you didn't mention the other major historical text Snorri wrote- the Heimskringla, a chronicle of the Norwegian Kings from mythical times to his approximate present day written to also help weasel his way into the Norwegian court. I find it interesting because it somewhat follows a trend of epic historical texts from the period, namely Fedrowsi's Shahnameh and Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Brittaniae where we follow the story from a mythical ancient past through a highly dubious and mythologized history of great heroes of dubious historicity (Harald Finehair, Rustam, King Arthur) and end in a more historically grounded period (Magnus V, the fall of the Sassanid Empire, the flight of Cadwaldr ).

    • @LarsisLP
      @LarsisLP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The Japanese imperial family allegedly tracing their lineage back all the way to Izanagi and Izanami would also fall into this pattern of connecting a mythical past to more grounded historical figures.
      Tho I don't know, if you got a single influential work of literature in that case.

    • @samminden1058
      @samminden1058 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@LarsisLP Yes! The Kojiki and the Nihon-ji! Two Nara period historical records that also are the source of a lot of the stories about Izanagi, Izanami, Amaterasu, and Susano-o and the foundation of the Imperial Lineage.

    • @LarsisLP
      @LarsisLP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@samminden1058 Thank you very much for that information!

    • @Punaparta
      @Punaparta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is probably a controversial take, but I think the Tanakh also would fit that pattern, beginning with the mythical past of the Age of the Patriarchs and Moses, going through the ambiguous historicity of the likes of David and Solomon, and ending in the pretty well-documented history from roughly the House of Jehu onward.

  • @theexplosive1062
    @theexplosive1062 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you telling me… that we get a video on Snorri Sturluson on one friday, and then on the next we get norse mythology? This just made my month

  • @richeybaumann1755
    @richeybaumann1755 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally, we get some lore on the man who makes studying Norse lore an absolute pain.

  • @Joel-qo6gt
    @Joel-qo6gt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was laughing all the way through this. Based and Loki-pilled.
    If you want a more in-depth look at the sheer madness of Snorri's life, consider reading Saga Land by Richard Fidler and Kari Gislason, part biography of Iceland, part adventures of the authors, and part "damn these stories are cool".

    • @a_e_hilton
      @a_e_hilton 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kari was my tutor at uni and I can confirm he is Snorripilled

  • @noahrennert9146
    @noahrennert9146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was just watching the earlier history makers video while this came out ,nice
    Thanks for the amazing content

  • @merchantmaker1771
    @merchantmaker1771 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's been years since we went over it but I don't recall Snorri being characterized quite so negatively learning about him in school. And as I recall his killing was not very popular in Iceland or Norway.

  • @scrollcaps
    @scrollcaps 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Historians: Help us Snorri you're our only hop-OH, oh no. Not more politics, please, Snorri, you promised.

  • @firstnamelastname5449
    @firstnamelastname5449 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey blue, I don’t know how feasible this is(regarding amount of source material) but I would be interested in a history-makers video on the monk whose journey inspired Journey to the West, Xuanzang

  • @ianmoone2488
    @ianmoone2488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Old Norse stories are like a game of telephone

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It honestly seems semi-inevitable in storytelling as a whole, but it is especially endemic in oral traditions and even more so with oral tradition communities colonized/missionized from without

  • @KahavaveCAPIPI
    @KahavaveCAPIPI 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly, I'd say that a big part of the reason we can generally (not totally, but generally) trust Snorri's recounting is that everyone else probably knew a bunch of the stories. It would need to have been mostly familiar to the Icelanders reading it to have worked, meaning that at most he could add in a few things which people could easily assume would be local variations.

  • @bunnygodofchaos574
    @bunnygodofchaos574 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a single bad day has ever begun with Blue pouring the delicious knowledge juice in my ears.

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh this makes me SO SO happy.
    I took a course in Norse Myth, and I still own my copies of both Eddas. SO GOOD.
    Love the context you add here, and how you're actually very even handed about ol' Snorri the Ridiculous. Well done!!
    (and y'all, if you don't read ANY OTHER bit of the Eddas, go read Voluspa!)

  • @gabrielaubry1334
    @gabrielaubry1334 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When Historians have access to time travel...
    (While observing from afar) "Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!"

  • @Ploxtifs_OldAndDeadAccountXD
    @Ploxtifs_OldAndDeadAccountXD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The story of Utgard-Loki is the one long form story that I have the easiest time retelling.
    That alone should show the immense care and dedication to the mythology the Norse put into their mythology, as it was effectively BUILT to be preserved orally and mentally, and effectively immune to being forgotten if the story teller has been unfortunately brain damaged.

  • @thegeekinpink6135
    @thegeekinpink6135 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm so happy to finally get context on the guy Reds been complaining about!

  • @joshquatch2980
    @joshquatch2980 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Having only known Snorri for writing the Prose Edda, hearing his wacky political shenanigans is so funny. Sometimes a writer's life is as interesting as the things they write about.

  • @kylepeters8690
    @kylepeters8690 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it's nice to hear red will be talking about another myth soon.

  • @Hintsies4Ruki
    @Hintsies4Ruki 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just found my dad watching this video while holding a bit of merch. Yesterday he told me that he wants me to stop watching this and stop begging for merch. Today is my birthday and he gave me the merch!! ❤❤❤

  • @bethanybrookes8479
    @bethanybrookes8479 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my favourite thing about the school trip to iceland i went on (after all the really cool geography) was probably the tour guide/ coach driver we got. the man was better than fantastic, considering that we had to get him in on a short notice due to a series of events including the covid lockdown and postponing of the trip. and he loved telling stories. every coach trip was filled with him pointing out little details about where we were going or had been, and telling us a story about it. maybe it was a legend about the name of the place. maybe it was a cool little historical anecdote. but it was great. i ended up picking up a couple of books about icelandic mythologies, folklore, legends and history whilst i was there because he'd sparked that interest with his storytelling. and theyre some great stories and, well, the tone of the author's introduction was very much in line with the tour guide's general attitude about the stories. that theyre to be shared and enjoyed but also that iceland isn't just its mythology and folklore, but the people behind spreading it and keeping it all alive and that the details of the stories do change over time with generations of retellings. also the icelandic are not obsessed with worshipping elves thats mostly just a bit they do for the tourists.

  • @wesliedeadplant
    @wesliedeadplant 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    been waiting for the snorri vid for YEARS. Thank you blue👍👍

  • @Felix-qq6sx
    @Felix-qq6sx 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a brilliant video, and a great reason to dust off my copy of the Edda.
    I had no idea what a wildfire Snorri was.

  • @Svartalf14
    @Svartalf14 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The prose edda was a manual for skalds to remember the stuff referred to in the massive use of nicknames and metaphors that was necessary for this style of poetry

  • @tylerpetersen6226
    @tylerpetersen6226 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Norseman: Let's take our existing writing system and write some tales down.
    Other Norseman: Nah we are going to raid an English monastery, are you coming?
    Norseman: Sure sounds fun.

  • @templarw20
    @templarw20 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've always looked at it this way: when you know the bias, you can correct for it. Sturluson, as both Red and Blue noted, was a political hack, and the Christianizing myths is also nothing new. So like the background noise coming into noise cancelling headphones, we can get through the bias and try to see what was there...
    And yes, Red's Loki video is one of my favorites.
    Also yes, I DO have the "Unorthodox Display of Hubris" shirt.

  • @TheProtagonizer
    @TheProtagonizer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You finally talked about Snorri, about time boiiiii

  • @핑엘리
    @핑엘리 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Iceland's agony is our swagony" is going to be one of those things that gets regularly yeeted around in my brain now thanks
    Edit: 10:09

  • @NiteCoffee
    @NiteCoffee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its a beautiful country! I got to visit in February! Their depiction of Thor looked like a Garden Gnome!

  • @raguelelnaqum
    @raguelelnaqum 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Important funny detail about the Icelandic history that your video missed: The deepest irony of the Scandinavian settlers voting to become Christian is that (much like Svalbard as well), the settlers were not the first people on the Island. The first people were Irish Papar monks, some of the last remaining Celtic Rite Catholics. The Scandinavians that came there originally slaughtered & enslaved them specifically because of their faith, despite the Papars largely being pacifists. So for them to vote to become Christian later on, with some of the descendants of those monks & other slaves still being enslaved due to their faith, is deeply ironic, and darkly hilarious.

  • @IchigoKurosaki10
    @IchigoKurosaki10 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the great work that you do! I love me some Nordic story, it scratches the itch of great history!

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the Aseir being heroes from the Trojan War would be a great premise for a Rick Riordan book or a book set within the Riordan universe

  • @lutilda
    @lutilda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Because I know you may appreciate this: I'm not sure if the pronunciation changed in the last 1000+ years, but the name Hakon/ Haakon/ Håkon today is pronounced ˈhôːkʊn (ho-kun). ❤ (Source: My dad is from Norway and his brother is named Håkon).
    AMAZING video, as always! ❤ I love the absolute mad lad that Snori was 😂 Whorri Sturluson is a perfect diss!

  • @kylehall8760
    @kylehall8760 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let's go!!!!!!! I've been waiting for this one!

  • @ericcooke2661
    @ericcooke2661 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After seeing Red's episodes on Norse mythology I did not expect Blue's voice here lol

  • @alboyer6
    @alboyer6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, ive been to Snorris museum in iceland. Facinating.

  • @Torq_Magebane
    @Torq_Magebane 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice throwaway use of “Whomst”

  • @mini3mayhem
    @mini3mayhem หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:46 I've seen that statue in person!! Bergen is a lovely place, highly recommend going.
    Just. Just don't do what me, my mom, and my brother did. Which was forget all three of our umbrellas at our hotel in Oslo before going on an 8 hour train ride to one of the rainiest towns on the planet. During a summer rainstorm. Wonderful place! I love rain! Just not to that extent, I have temperature regulation issues, getting drenched is not my idea of fun.

  • @Tuaron
    @Tuaron 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fun video, great to hear about the man responsible for the Eddas and also horrible generational wars. Also, are we sure that Shakespeare didn't cause the War of the Roses?

  • @berilsevvalbekret772
    @berilsevvalbekret772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So THAT'S where Snorri in Warhammer Fantasy comes from!!! ❤

  • @paulmardahl5458
    @paulmardahl5458 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Blue for another wonderful video! Bravo!

  • @Brasswatchman
    @Brasswatchman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fascinating. Thanks for sharing!