Other than table selection, which is easily the most important factor to overall EV. Over bluffing the flop, and under bluffing turn and river is the most profitable play. Seriously, 1/2 games are full of people looking for good flops.
Overfolding in my 1/3 game works! It can be boring at times. It can be slow. But it works! Most players are very straight forward. Yes, occasionally I get shown a bluff, but it ends up being the correct decision a high percentage of time. I assume they "have it" until proven otherwise.
what i wrestle with is what to do with mid value, like a pocket pair between second and top pair on the board or bottom two pair, or shaky top pair, like the high card on the flop is a jack and i hold a jack. those are the hands I feel like I'm a) missing value and b) paying off second best an equal amount.
Sounds like an expansion of the Baluga Theorum put forth about 20 years ago that said, “Facing any raise on the Turn should cause you to reevaluate the strength of any one pair hands, mostly folding.”
Love your content, I'm finding more live low stakes games where the effective stack depth is easily 150+ big blinds. So 1/3 where the max buy-in is $500. I'd love to hear you talk more about how to adjust to these deeper stacks.
Play more suited connectors and suited aces, they’re draw-heavy hands that can get you a significant payday if you hit, as 1/2 players have a tough time folding top pair
This is spot on. Side: With a little patience and observation too, in these small games, you can usually readily identify any capable players at the table too. For me, it isolates my appetite vs. action with them vs. the soft/predictable players at the table.
The low stakes game I play in is against mostly calling stations, bluffing is only done when in position on uncontested pots on the river. The rest is all about value betting, go bigger and thinner than normal.
Thank you for the tips, Jonathan! On the last hand - i put villian on 10cXc with that raise, and am willing to flat to see at least the turn. I still feel I'm ahead at that point - is that wrong??
in those gto charts: what i dont understand is, sometimes it tells you to randomize, for example raising 60 percent of times vs. calling 40 percent of times, with the same hand in the same spot. In my understanding this is like a way to be unpredictable/protect your checkrange if you check also with a big hand sometimes. But is that really necessary? especially in low stakes, people are not thinking that deep most times, i would guess. So just making the most ev play with a hand everytime should make more money than randomizing. Like if you sit down at a cashgame table online and then play 200-300 hands, the samplesize is way to low, for opponents to figure out your exact play anyway and you still can protect your ranges without randomizing. thoughts?
and ofcourse its much more practical, playing with a clearcut strategy. Especially if youre just starting of. At least i would guess. easier to remember.
One of the most profitable exploits I’ve found - those same tight players who only bet when they really like their hand will also usually get sticky when facing aggression, because they’ve convinced themselves they have a winning hand. Meaning that 1) I basically am never gonna try to bluff them off when they’re showing aggression because they’re probably not capable of folding, and 2) if I have the effective nuts, I can go crazy with my bet sizing and they’ll still usually call with their top pair type hands and better
Texas poker is quite opposite, I’ve had many opponents triple barrel blast with missed flushed draws, straight draws, ace highs, etc.. at low stakes your priority should be to pick your spots, isolate your opponents(when possible) and play big pots when in position and when out of position make more passive/trap plays to let opponents bluff and/or make them think they really do have the best hand and value bet 1.5-2.25x pot on the river.
Good vid w great exploits against pool. I actually see this way more at 1/2 1/3 vs 2/5 esp if the 2/5 is the biggest in the room. Also, why are you using 6max charts for full ring?
Another consequence of this is LOTS of squeezing opportunities preflop. It is very common in 1/2 to see player open and then lots of calls because players don’t 3 bet unless super strong. Also you to 3 bet squeeze more as players over credit 3 bets.
What range do you call is your apponent limp 45 siuted but also limp reraraise QQ,AK,KK,AA and sometimes AQ what should I do if he limp reraise to 12 big blinds
Your going to be in position to players who play like this. It xan be rough sometimes but generally anybody who limp reraises is VERY STRONG. It's almost always AA or KK. Fold tighter or play in position with a hand that can crack them like suited connectors.(depends how big they make it)
Yeah, when small stakes players show major aggression, unless I have a great hand (even when I have very good hands), I fold. Last live game I was in, playing 5/10, an hour into the session I called a 3-bet w/ KsQc. The flop came 7h9hQh, and the villain immediately bet full pot, out of position. The guy was 70ish and hadn't even played a hand in 45 minutes. He might as well had been screaming "I have a flush!" while standing on the table. I folded and he frowned at me, I couldn't help but shake my head. 😆🙄
Jonathan, you are easy to understand and appreciate all your advise. my question, is there ever a good reason to show your cards after the hand is over ? thanks
@@carlknepfler8976 thanks, I was aware of the answer, I was just trying to reply down below with what I thought the answe was the "#1 mistake low stakes players make that makes them easy to exploit"
I’m a big fan of yours! I have to disagree with an important aspect to preflop example you were doing. It’s a soft table(this is key). You have a 3 betting you or 4 betting you but not going all in. Those are the hands you want to see the flop!!!! That’s where the money is with weak players. They can fall in love with their premium even if they missed the flop…..big money to take from soft players when you allow them to go into a flop as the favourite. Poker begins after the flop. Out play him!!!!!
Seriously, talking about playing gto in 1-2? Opponents in 1-2 are playing their hand and hoping to win. They're playing the fucking lotto. Less than 15% in my guess can actually "range" opponents or have ANY understanding of pot odds. Hell, they don't even count the pot! Nor understand per.
The point is that most of them really have something when they three bet you. Nobody is saying you should be playing GTO, but looking at GTO ranges vs a 3 bet is quite useful, because bad players will probably have an even tighter range than GTO suggests.
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What is your #1 exploit for live cash games?
Not doing the same big ridiculous preflop raise as everyone else. Took your advice and my profits have increased.
Under-bluff, and over-fold.
Sitting left of the fish
Other than table selection, which is easily the most important factor to overall EV. Over bluffing the flop, and under bluffing turn and river is the most profitable play.
Seriously, 1/2 games are full of people looking for good flops.
run well
Overfolding in my 1/3 game works! It can be boring at times. It can be slow. But it works!
Most players are very straight forward. Yes, occasionally I get shown a bluff, but it ends up being the correct decision a high percentage of time. I assume they "have it" until proven otherwise.
True.
Thanks so much Jonathan. I do overfold often in these spots but always feel like a big wuss, so this helps immensely!
Thanks again,
Paul Sanders
what i wrestle with is what to do with mid value, like a pocket pair between second and top pair on the board or bottom two pair, or shaky top pair, like the high card on the flop is a jack and i hold a jack. those are the hands I feel like I'm a) missing value and b) paying off second best an equal amount.
Thanks, Paul!
Sounds like an expansion of the Baluga Theorum put forth about 20 years ago that said, “Facing any raise on the Turn should cause you to reevaluate the strength of any one pair hands, mostly folding.”
Love your content, I'm finding more live low stakes games where the effective stack depth is easily 150+ big blinds. So 1/3 where the max buy-in is $500. I'd love to hear you talk more about how to adjust to these deeper stacks.
Thanks!! I'll consider it for future content.
Play more suited connectors and suited aces, they’re draw-heavy hands that can get you a significant payday if you hit, as 1/2 players have a tough time folding top pair
@@mirrorportal1587 So, in deeper stack games draws have more value because of implied odds? Is that right?
@@edb7742 Correct
This is spot on. Side: With a little patience and observation too, in these small games, you can usually readily identify any capable players at the table too. For me, it isolates my appetite vs. action with them vs. the soft/predictable players at the table.
My biggest exploit is sizing up when value betting against inelastic opponents.
What does sizing up mean? Thanks
@@leavingtheislandbetting more than u typically would
The low stakes game I play in is against mostly calling stations, bluffing is only done when in position on uncontested pots on the river.
The rest is all about value betting, go bigger and thinner than normal.
What now, bigger or thinner? What does thinner mean, like with less hands?
In the K9s example do you find it terrible to check back on the flop?
Thank you for the tips, Jonathan!
On the last hand - i put villian on 10cXc with that raise, and am willing to flat to see at least the turn. I still feel I'm ahead at that point - is that wrong??
Given no preflop reraise, not likely to have 2pr or set...
in those gto charts: what i dont understand is, sometimes it tells you to randomize, for example raising 60 percent of times vs. calling 40 percent of times, with the same hand in the same spot. In my understanding this is like a way to be unpredictable/protect your checkrange if you check also with a big hand sometimes. But is that really necessary? especially in low stakes, people are not thinking that deep most times, i would guess. So just making the most ev play with a hand everytime should make more money than randomizing. Like if you sit down at a cashgame table online and then play 200-300 hands, the samplesize is way to low, for opponents to figure out your exact play anyway and you still can protect your ranges without randomizing. thoughts?
and ofcourse its much more practical, playing with a clearcut strategy. Especially if youre just starting of. At least i would guess. easier to remember.
Is it Super User access?
One of the most profitable exploits I’ve found - those same tight players who only bet when they really like their hand will also usually get sticky when facing aggression, because they’ve convinced themselves they have a winning hand. Meaning that 1) I basically am never gonna try to bluff them off when they’re showing aggression because they’re probably not capable of folding, and 2) if I have the effective nuts, I can go crazy with my bet sizing and they’ll still usually call with their top pair type hands and better
Texas poker is quite opposite, I’ve had many opponents triple barrel blast with missed flushed draws, straight draws, ace highs, etc.. at low stakes your priority should be to pick your spots, isolate your opponents(when possible) and play big pots when in position and when out of position make more passive/trap plays to let opponents bluff and/or make them think they really do have the best hand and value bet 1.5-2.25x pot on the river.
I played k9 hand same texture vs a station who only raises strong. Didn't know that at the time check called him down he had ak.
Good vid w great exploits against pool. I actually see this way more at 1/2 1/3 vs 2/5 esp if the 2/5 is the biggest in the room. Also, why are you using 6max charts for full ring?
Another consequence of this is LOTS of squeezing opportunities preflop. It is very common in 1/2 to see player open and then lots of calls because players don’t 3 bet unless super strong. Also you to 3 bet squeeze more as players over credit 3 bets.
Solvers are so weird. Why does 88 call more 3bets than 99?
Think it's because 99 blocks some opponent 3 bet hands so 88 plays better postflop
What range do you call is your apponent limp 45 siuted but also limp reraraise QQ,AK,KK,AA and sometimes AQ what should I do if he limp reraise to 12 big blinds
Your going to be in position to players who play like this. It xan be rough sometimes but generally anybody who limp reraises is VERY STRONG. It's almost always AA or KK. Fold tighter or play in position with a hand that can crack them like suited connectors.(depends how big they make it)
Does this hold for online or do you think there are too many good multi table players at 1/2 online?
My opponents overvalue Ace junk kicker
So I'll use this in most cases except if an ace is on the flop and i can beat it with kicker or a good draw
Yeah, when small stakes players show major aggression, unless I have a great hand (even when I have very good hands), I fold. Last live game I was in, playing 5/10, an hour into the session I called a 3-bet w/ KsQc. The flop came 7h9hQh, and the villain immediately bet full pot, out of position. The guy was 70ish and hadn't even played a hand in 45 minutes. He might as well had been screaming "I have a flush!" while standing on the table. I folded and he frowned at me, I couldn't help but shake my head. 😆🙄
I raise with a wide range in position 😊
in short be a nit
Forget 4 bets, most players in my $1/$2 game never 3 bet unless they have JJ+ or AK. A lot won't even 3 bet with AK off suit.
Jonathan, you are easy to understand and appreciate all your advise. my question, is there ever a good reason to show your cards after the hand is over ? thanks
cool now i go to the nl 1-2 crusher. Lol...
I just want to win in my 2 table sit n go.....jeez, some players just bet bet bet to push you off your hand...
Tough one, Its either "plays too many hands preflop" or "doesnt bluff enough"
It can be both. Call
Super wide but 3 bet extremely narrow. Recognize the distinction between calling and raising.
@@carlknepfler8976 thanks, I was aware of the answer, I was just trying to reply down below with what I thought the answe was the "#1 mistake low stakes players make that makes them easy to exploit"
see another card
A bad runout will often get you in trouble...bluffs will earn you a little bit lose a lot😉😉😉
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i would call king
I’m a big fan of yours! I have to disagree with an important aspect to preflop example you were doing. It’s a soft table(this is key). You have a 3 betting you or 4 betting you but not going all in. Those are the hands you want to see the flop!!!! That’s where the money is with weak players. They can fall in love with their premium even if they missed the flop…..big money to take from soft players when you allow them to go into a flop as the favourite. Poker begins after the flop. Out play him!!!!!
They are not likely folding a big pair. So you are a dog and relying purely on out flopping them. Doesn't seem like a good play to me.
this is a good idea if the fish are 200bb or deeper w you otherwise you're burning $$
Seriously, talking about playing gto in 1-2? Opponents in 1-2 are playing their hand and hoping to win. They're playing the fucking lotto. Less than 15% in my guess can actually "range" opponents or have ANY understanding of pot odds. Hell, they don't even count the pot! Nor understand per.
The point is that most of them really have something when they three bet you. Nobody is saying you should be playing GTO, but looking at GTO ranges vs a 3 bet is quite useful, because bad players will probably have an even tighter range than GTO suggests.
call
Fold the K9
Seventh
If you don't want to watch the whole video, the lesson is just "play tight"
How to play poker, just fold
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they play too many hands
You can never profit in 1 - 2 with $7 rake and you know it
you can and you can find lots of unraked 1-2 and 1-3
You definitely can.
When you crush, rake doesn’t matter
@@jkonrad it definitely matters, as the rake directly impacts win rate.
@@paxmaniac1a high win rate can easily overcome a high rake structure
1/2 and 2/5 should be played purely for fun. Calling yourself a pro while making McDonald's hourly is pathetic.
You definitely scream at the fish when you lose to them
playing 2/5 if winning 10bb per hour 50 . so McDonalds pay so well 😂
You can win 30-40 bb /100 at these stakes. Achieving as good of won rates as a good player will do at 5/10 if it’s a moderately tough game.
@@carlknepfler8976 i think winning 30/40 bb per hour after rake is abit ambitious. but who knows
2/5 can play quite big. Depends on the game.
LFG