@@maxzett Amazon does have this but it's a bit dumb to get to go to the reviews, click to filter by a star rating, then change the "all formats" to "show only reviews for..." then change 5 star only back to all, unfortunately it doesn't show you a rating of just that item though but you can still see how many reviews have how many stars
@@Scott-f9 Amazon is so annoying for this, as sellers seem to be less and less controlled and pages of a product get recycled into another one with absolutely no link with the old one, just because it has a lot of good reviews. I was browsing laptops and I saw an interesting one with lots of good reviews, but they were all for sunglasses ??
@@windowsuser321 Why? They're the most popular as they don't take up much space in the case so you can also have a smaller one + 99% of people don't need more than 1 PCIe slot
@@despairdx If you're going to buy a full atx case you should really make use of that extra space by having a board that has more expansion slots and features. A microatx board has less fan headers, less features.
I am with team SeaSonic, ever since I tried my first SeaSonic rebranded PSU which was the XFX BEFX 850W I was absolutely blown away at how tight the voltages were even under load. That was back around 2014 so for the past 10 years as a system builder I only recommend SeaSonic high quality parts or rebrands of those high quality units. For those that do not know, many brands available do not make their own PSU's, they have an OEM make them (Great Wall, HEC, DELTA, Super Flower, FSP, ToPower, Enermax, SeaSonic are OEM's). Those OEM's make the components for the PSU and then the company makes an artistic design and slaps their logo on it, examples of this are EVGA, Thermaltake, Antec, NZXT, and Corsair just to name a few. SeaSonic makes their own PSU's in house, and their top tier models are EXCEPTIONAL. Their "low end" PSU's are not all that great, safe, but not worth the money. Anything "mid-range" to high end from SeaSonic is just an instant buy.
Man did only like 70 people get that and want to come comment haha. I thought it would be more. I can't wait to see if Linus trys the thermal paste and goes back and forth to its rancid, nope it's fine, nope that's definitely rancid?
@@feedmatrix10 It IS arbitrary in the sense that the video defines "herd mentality" as what everyone *believes.* And this post is defining "herd mentality" as what everyone *does.* Best reviewed = what everyone believes Most purchased = what everyone does
Here's your next video in this series: When buying parts for the herd machine, filter by minimum reviews, then divide the price by the star rating. Then build a machine based on price per star, making the most cost- effective herd machine.
Can you do a similar video for building/buying computers in Europe? I know its not exactly your target audience, but there is a severe lack of reliable information on good retailers/pc builders in Europe. It'd be great to have more in depth information from professional enthusiasts that would make it easier for your European viewers. As someone who is planning on building a pc in Portugal soon, I'd really appreciate having better knowledge of which companies are the most dependable, helpful, and worth the price when doing so in Europe, especially since shipping can also be a major issue. Thanks for all the content you guys make. I learn a little bit more everyday.
"Let's get all of this into the case" followed promptly by "nice" was NOT a reference i was expecting today, my kudos to the writer who evidentially knows our main man steve
6:52 wait a moment... if yous didn't choose the Ryzen 7 7800X3D (despite wanting to) because the listing was shared between 3x different product SKUs, then why did yous choose the Seasonic Power Supply when its listing is shared with 6x different product SKUs?
@@dm1i I bet it was actually because it was just the highest listing like they did for a previous part too. Maybe a lot of the power supplies are combined pages
That I think is commonly called a "Steam PC" or whatever the most popular parts on Steam are. Didn't LTR do one of those earlier this year, or was that for 2023?
2:01 I have that exact same issue with the same part. For context on what he’s saying the bios will pop up after a couple minutes of the pc being on but not booting and it will say “failed to boot 5 times” and then it says its attempting boots some other way and then it boots like any other pc would.
Their conclusion on the 5800x3d build says it all, it's not currently worth building a new gaming PC when a 3 year old one would be equal if not faster depending on your GPU choice.
I have an old MSI tomahawk motherboard that's about five years old but since AMD released the 5800x3D I put that into it plus a 4070 and unless something breaks I doubt I'll be upgrading until the 6070 pops up in god knows how many years.
I built 2 systems during the 5000 series release window. started with the 5600x and now i use a 5900x. I also got a 6900xt. In total i really enjoyed gaming on the 5600x and the 5900x. with the 6900xt it didn't make a difference which cpu i was using. it was fantastic. That said, I am looking to upgrade again, but it might be a while as it looks like i'll be buying it piece by piece instead of all together.
thats one of the bigger problems with reviews, there should almost be 2 separate reviews because i don't want to see a 1 star because FedEx damaged your 4090, that has nothing to do with the product or if they sent you a 80+ gold instead of platinum. These are supposed to be PRODUCT reviews not supplier/shipper reviews. maybe have a separate score for that.
@@codefeenix By reviewing the supplies / shipper instead of the product. Some companies have separate reviews for the products and for their own service.
That "let's get all of this into the case" transition is somehow the best transition I've ever seen and I'm not kidding. It just lads perfectly on every level.
I love this running gag of LTT where Linus always tries to do a horrible impression of an accent. English is my second language, but even I can tell this isn't how people from Texas sound like, that's how bad it is. I just love it.
Because the prices you see are without tax. (They pay tax, it's just not put into the product price) Add let's say 15% to every price you see and you'll mostly get european prices. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
love watching episodes like this and seeing like half my new computer on display. same mobo cpu and storage, though i chose the first one based on the physical arangement of the PCIe slots enabling the cards i need to all fit in without using risers, not reviews.
As much as the 4060 and 4060 ti are no good values, they are still good CPUs and can run any game at high settings at 1080p and some at 1440p. I'm at 1080p so that's what I went with. I also got my card as a returned item/open box at Best Buy and that took a bit out of the sting. I'm not against AMD GPU's though. I do some work with mine though too, so I'm just more comfortable with NVidia for that reason.
@@joshstucki4349 Yeah the 4060 and 4060 Ti aren't bad GPUs, they're actually pretty good, just that the price-to-performance value is bad, as you said. Get a 4060 if you REALLY want the DLSS and other Nvidia features maybe for streamers, but for anything else get an AMD GPU that is better performance for around the same price
@@xWatexx For me its worth even more lol, my PC is around 800 USD afaik (I don't live in the US so it is an approximate guess of the price, I also can't remember the exact price lol I think I forgot it on purpose)
When linus does a thing for fun but yet it becomes useful tips for others. Still it's become a dream build for me which I can't afford in my whole lifetime.
When I buy PC parts and build a PC I go for power efficiency above all else. Many people dont understand the long term cost difference between a PC that use 500watts when gaming vs a PC that uses 1200watts when gaming.
What PC uses 1200W when gaming? the recommended PSU for a 4090 is 1000W, and those recommendations are usually with margin. Also, how much are you gaming? Maybe if you game 8 hours per day, but I'm lucky if I get in a few hours on the weekends. Even if I lived in a place with high electricity costs, I would rather have higher framerate and enjoy the time I do have for gaming rather than worry about a few 10s of euros per year delta between, say, a more realistic 800W PC vs a 500W one.
I gave my QLED monitor which I haven't opened up, 2x2GB DDR3 from a PC I'm holding for salvage, and my 3.5 inch WD Black 1TB HDD to Jacob. I have no need for a 3.5 inch drive, Cooler Master just release their third iteration of the GM34 monitor which I may end up getting but I'm gonna wait, plus-I needed some space. I made progress by getting rid of... Something. Now I just need to setup some way to finally test a few things with my A12 9800 build.
The herd is shockingly close to my build from last November(upgrade from 2015). I got a 7800X3D and different fans/case but boy did I follow the consumer guides to a tee it turns out!
I’m still shocked by how many supposedly ‘in-the-know’ gamers choose Intel. Anyone who has kept up with the space should know that Ryzen 5000 basically made the Intel high-end redundant [and a bad value] UNLESS you needed something specific, like Intel QuickSync. If you don’t know what that is, you likely don’t need it.
1000w will likely never have to be upgraded, and the ssd is just the primary ssd. I myself have two other ssds, I try not to use the primary ssd for anything other than the OS
@@jocerv43 I've got my whole PC on a 4TB 990 Pro, works well and easy for setting up folders for Vortex etc. I'd never buy an SSD under 1TB nowadays, it's a waste of an M.2 slot. Also, you're unlikely to ever need a 1000W PSU unless you've built an i9-14900K + 4090 PC, which 99% of people never will. You could keep it for your next build though. Head room for an absolute monster in the future. But for the here and now, a bigger SSD is a vastly better use of your money.
@@ruukinen The whole reason why you want a dedicated os drive is so you don't have to worry too much about losing stuff if you end up having to wipe your os install. It's much easier to do a fresh install of windows when everything else is on a different drive. That's why I tell people to get a 500 gigs for windows and a much higher capacity drive(s) for everything else. I personally just do a standard sata ssd for os since windows is never going to utilize the speed of a nvme drive whereas some of my games will benefit.
@@Shadowninja1200 It makes much more sense to have everything you don't want wiped on a slower other drive than to have your OS on your slow drive. Unless your internet is garbage, I don't see why you would want to save your games from getting wiped and if you do, you could just transfer them temporarily to the other drive when wiping the install. I also don't really see the need to wipe an OS install often enough for that to be a worry at all.
Usually brand sponsorships don't really catch my attention, but since I started watching LTT videos I have a strange loyalty to Seasonic and dbrand. I'm actually genuinely convinced these brands are two that i'll stick with because of their consistency and also quality which is surprising for a sponsor imo
uhhh my man i don't know if you know this but higher res favors better gpus... and well even if it wasn't the amd X3D chips still give better performance... so it doesn't really matter but you can get a bit more for the same money (upgrade path)
@@Ratsacker0269 I reduce to 3200x1800 like console for demanding games with RT, 7800x3D is too expensive for my need. Depend what game, resolution and what constant fps you want to take a 7800x3D. That was i said I prefer put low money on the cpu and maximise the price on GPU. You save a lot of money and u lost only 5 to 10% performance.
Complaining about 6000mhz CL36 when that is literally whats recommended for AMD 7000 series? Additionally the 13th and 14th will have trouble running above JEDEC properly.
@@profosist well you’re talking about after degradation. Out of the box performance is different. It depends if intel can be trusted that new CPUs running the new micro code will be able to run 7200mhz for the rated lifetime of the CPU. Either way out of the box I haven’t come across a 13th or 14th gen cpu that can’t run 7200mhz. Also it’s not the memory controller that’s degrading on the CPUs. Most reports indicate the ring bus is what’s dying due to the high voltages.
@@whatyareckon5985 really doesn't matter what's killing them if you have to drop down to one stick of memory at that low of a speed to keep it working. Even then it's not consistent. Personally I'd either go 12th gym if you really need intel since we know that's Rock Solid all right hold on for the new stuff it would be different if I already owned a 13th or 14th gen chip but I for sure wouldn't actually choose to build a system with one.
@@profosist no it doesn’t really matter but ram speed on a degraded CPU is the least of your concerns if you want to go that route. I’ve had a CPU from every Ryzen generation since they came out so i wouldn’t go any intel CPU. I commented because your assertion that intel 13th and 14th gen CPU can’t run above jedec speed is technically incorrect.
Doesnt make any sense lol, how does selling to a company that was made in russia directly = supporting the russian government which is VERY authoritatian. Leave deep cool alone.
Shopping around is the one thing I'd gotten too used to not doing, and just recently rediscovered how much cheaper a lot of stuff is on sites other than Amazon. Some stuff is half the price delivered from elsewhere than it was on Amazon the last time I shopped around.
Biggest takeaway from this video is the shoutout to AM4 at the end. 6400MT/s is cool and all, but if you're a little patient you can find some incredible deals on am4 stuff.
For the SSD, the 970 EVO and Plus both released with firmware that would accelerate the life cycle of the SSD. But you can download the Samsung tool for it and update it on purchase. They also provide a 5 year warranty for the product as long as you purchased it at a retailer. Big win for that price. Promises 5 years of life
The meshify case was a great choice for a newbie builder. The case design naturally leads to good cable management and there's not too many places to go wrong.
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In the reviews section for Newegg you can filter "Only see the reviews for the current item"
@@maxzett Amazon does have this but it's a bit dumb to get to go to the reviews, click to filter by a star rating, then change the "all formats" to "show only reviews for..." then change 5 star only back to all, unfortunately it doesn't show you a rating of just that item though but you can still see how many reviews have how many stars
@@maxzett in Spain, Amazon does have this. I assume it also does in teh rest of Europe
and if you do this at least at the time of writing the 12700k and 7800x3d have the same 95% 5 egg rating with more overall reviews on the 7800x3d.
should just do that by default lmao
@@Scott-f9 Amazon is so annoying for this, as sellers seem to be less and less controlled and pages of a product get recycled into another one with absolutely no link with the old one, just because it has a lot of good reviews. I was browsing laptops and I saw an interesting one with lots of good reviews, but they were all for sunglasses ??
We got Texan linus before gta 6
we got _blonde_ texan linus before GTA 6
We got@@manojsahu-hr9qe giving old memes before gta6
Bro ain’t no way… btw here’s the beginning of the video if ya couldn’t find it 0:00
If he starts the show with the hat on, I expect it to stay on for the duration. 🤠
@@KadenHill-e3n lmao bro youre hilarious no cap
Those 9 dollars must've been for the PREMIUM SONIC MOTHERBOARD. Gotta go fast!
It really bothers me that it's a microatx board that they chose for the LTT build.
@@windowsuser321 Why? They're the most popular as they don't take up much space in the case so you can also have a smaller one + 99% of people don't need more than 1 PCIe slot
Hoping to run RINGS around the other one. 😂
@@windowsuser321whats wrong with matx? Any performance loss or sumn
@@despairdx If you're going to buy a full atx case you should really make use of that extra space by having a board that has more expansion slots and features. A microatx board has less fan headers, less features.
I am with team SeaSonic, ever since I tried my first SeaSonic rebranded PSU which was the XFX BEFX 850W I was absolutely blown away at how tight the voltages were even under load. That was back around 2014 so for the past 10 years as a system builder I only recommend SeaSonic high quality parts or rebrands of those high quality units.
For those that do not know, many brands available do not make their own PSU's, they have an OEM make them (Great Wall, HEC, DELTA, Super Flower, FSP, ToPower, Enermax, SeaSonic are OEM's). Those OEM's make the components for the PSU and then the company makes an artistic design and slaps their logo on it, examples of this are EVGA, Thermaltake, Antec, NZXT, and Corsair just to name a few.
SeaSonic makes their own PSU's in house, and their top tier models are EXCEPTIONAL. Their "low end" PSU's are not all that great, safe, but not worth the money. Anything "mid-range" to high end from SeaSonic is just an instant buy.
Doesn't Corsair have JonnyGuru (or was it some other PSU expert) working for them?
5:52 “Nice”
That was beautiful.
@@russellj911 was that an MRE Steve reference?
@@alistear7862 - Exactly what I thought!! (has to be)
Man did only like 70 people get that and want to come comment haha. I thought it would be more. I can't wait to see if Linus trys the thermal paste and goes back and forth to its rancid, nope it's fine, nope that's definitely rancid?
@@alistear7862 eating 1930 ration that was under a tank challenge. (Only steve can do it)
"Herd mentality" means it should have been parts that were bought the most, not the best reviewed ones
Sure in your arbitrary definition that's what it means...
That is correct, I don't think its easy to get those numbers
@@alexdavis9324 do, you even know what a herd is? Lol it aint arbitrary
@@patrikcarlsson2908 there is steam survey (although it wouldn't show the particular model of the GPU)
@@feedmatrix10 It IS arbitrary in the sense that the video defines "herd mentality" as what everyone *believes.* And this post is defining "herd mentality" as what everyone *does.*
Best reviewed = what everyone believes
Most purchased = what everyone does
5:50 that caught me so off guard omg that transition was perfect
@@RiginJustino steve1989 type transition
Sick reference bro!
I went into the comments to say the same thing! Also pretty cool it was finished before Linus walked out of frame!
"Let's get this all out onto a tray. Nice"
It was clearly an omage to steve1989
Here's your next video in this series:
When buying parts for the herd machine, filter by minimum reviews, then divide the price by the star rating.
Then build a machine based on price per star, making the most cost- effective herd machine.
@Mohit-k7j what a pitiful life this is. Begging for views
@@koka-m10 it's more likely a targeted bot
@@holyvipers9814 Pitiful bot owner still pitiful.
@Mohit-k7j go away.
Mods!
@Mohit-k7j 🤡
Can you do a similar video for building/buying computers in Europe? I know its not exactly your target audience, but there is a severe lack of reliable information on good retailers/pc builders in Europe. It'd be great to have more in depth information from professional enthusiasts that would make it easier for your European viewers. As someone who is planning on building a pc in Portugal soon, I'd really appreciate having better knowledge of which companies are the most dependable, helpful, and worth the price when doing so in Europe, especially since shipping can also be a major issue. Thanks for all the content you guys make. I learn a little bit more everyday.
5:50 the edit was incredible, well done for real.
"Let's get all of this into the case" followed promptly by "nice" was NOT a reference i was expecting today, my kudos to the writer who evidentially knows our main man steve
at this point i dont think there is a single unique person.
Haha, was looking for that comment 😂
Best part is, the vid i watched just before this was Steve's newest vid lol
@@shaynecarter-murray3127 what video is that
I was so fucking happy when Steve made a come back a few months ago.
Steve1989mreinfo reference. Nice!
Nice!
How does it transcend genres!? It's nice.
Came here to see this comment. Steve is a legend.
6:52 wait a moment... if yous didn't choose the Ryzen 7 7800X3D (despite wanting to) because the listing was shared between 3x different product SKUs, then why did yous choose the Seasonic Power Supply when its listing is shared with 6x different product SKUs?
@@dm1i I bet it was actually because it was just the highest listing like they did for a previous part too. Maybe a lot of the power supplies are combined pages
@@dm1i I don't really think that reasoning holds that much water. AMD after all sponsors the Extreme Tech Upgrade series atm
@@dm1i the nvme storage was the one
Most psu have multiple listings and they probably prioritize the rating over whether or not the product had multiple listings
@@marcusbrown3880 not really in games like cyberpunk
As a Texan I approve the outfit lol 10/10 hilarious 0:28
5:55 Not surprised to see that Meshify remains the GOAT
13:40 Seeing the phanteks panel not fully on by the bottom corner is something I can't take my eyes off. (computer on the left).
@@ferenc-x7p now I can't unsee that thx 😆
Now do a "Most Average Gaming PC 2024 Edition"
it hasnt changed much
we also need another $69 gaming pc
That I think is commonly called a "Steam PC" or whatever the most popular parts on Steam are.
Didn't LTR do one of those earlier this year, or was that for 2023?
@@DragonBane299 have they done a Steam Survey build yet?
I’m bored thinking about this idea (no offense)
the 12700kf can be had for $185 quite often. at that price, its a very solid option.
@@rozzbourn3653 just recently bought the k version because I was desperate and too many options were bugging me was that a bad choice
2:01 I have that exact same issue with the same part. For context on what he’s saying the bios will pop up after a couple minutes of the pc being on but not booting and it will say “failed to boot 5 times” and then it says its attempting boots some other way and then it boots like any other pc would.
Initial title: "Building the herd mentality PC"
5:48 loved the Steve1989MRE reference here
I was looking for this comment. Good catch ahaha.
Their conclusion on the 5800x3d build says it all, it's not currently worth building a new gaming PC when a 3 year old one would be equal if not faster depending on your GPU choice.
I have an old MSI tomahawk motherboard that's about five years old but since AMD released the 5800x3D I put that into it plus a 4070 and unless something breaks I doubt I'll be upgrading until the 6070 pops up in god knows how many years.
@@samstreet5442 I think I might find a lightly used 5800x3d and upgrade from there(already have a 5600x+6900xt in my build)
@@OnboardG1 I did basically same thing, yeah its more than enough for now I imagine I won't upgrade for a while
I built 2 systems during the 5000 series release window. started with the 5600x and now i use a 5900x. I also got a 6900xt. In total i really enjoyed gaming on the 5600x and the 5900x. with the 6900xt it didn't make a difference which cpu i was using. it was fantastic. That said, I am looking to upgrade again, but it might be a while as it looks like i'll be buying it piece by piece instead of all together.
Dude 5800x3d is once in lifetime CPU it's like 1080Ti. We will never see something that great that can hold its ground against new gen products.
5:58 Steve would be proud
just got here and immediately dove into the comments for this lol
5:50 honestly my favourite bit of ltt editing
2:15 reminder to not forget about the legendary Core 2 Quad
I smell an continuation of a series
First "actual" comment
@@Maneboo1 second actual comment
@@flute136 third actual comment
Wrong vowel used. It should be "I smell a continuation of a series"
@@Dextrolordt Oh my bad, I forgot c isn't a vowel. Time to not change it because I care more about responding than editing it.
thats one of the bigger problems with reviews, there should almost be 2 separate reviews because i don't want to see a 1 star because FedEx damaged your 4090, that has nothing to do with the product or if they sent you a 80+ gold instead of platinum. These are supposed to be PRODUCT reviews not supplier/shipper reviews. maybe have a separate score for that.
how to determine if supplier / shipper sucks or is unscrupulous without reviewing?
@@codefeenix By reviewing the supplies / shipper instead of the product.
Some companies have separate reviews for the products and for their own service.
Linus actually traced the opponent's outline at 10:08, way to go, Linus
Why would you guys choose a 13700k instead of a 7800x3d for your second build??
Need the intel sponsors coming in
Because its a comparison. Not a massacre lol
Yeah tbh. Kinda odd they suggested Intel.
@@kampo83 i don't think they suggested intel really, they chose intel for comparison wise
They chose intel to compare. Anyone who does light research will instantly see AMD is the best processor this gen.
That "let's get all of this into the case" transition is somehow the best transition I've ever seen and I'm not kidding. It just lads perfectly on every level.
5:48 WAS THIS A REFERENCE TO STEVE MRE OMGGGGG
@@AyyyGabagool nice
I thought the same exact thing lol
What am I missing here? What does this have to do with GN?
@@alexdavis9324Steve MRE isn’t the same Steve from GN
@@alexdavis9324 wrong Steve.
The name of the player in first place at 10:25 lmaoo
ikr i was just about to comment about it
He must be a buddy of my friend Dixon S. Holes
0:32 "The best rated parts" - cuts to intel 13th gen
L inus TT
Rope suddenly catches fire
Idk why but LTT has the only yt videos where u actually want to watch the sponsor ads
I love this running gag of LTT where Linus always tries to do a horrible impression of an accent. English is my second language, but even I can tell this isn't how people from Texas sound like, that's how bad it is. I just love it.
It's insane how cheap PCs are in the US compared to EU
it's not just PCs
But healthcare isn't and people here wish it was.
Don't forget that US prices are generally before tax while EU prices are generally after tax.
Because the prices you see are without tax. (They pay tax, it's just not put into the product price) Add let's say 15% to every price you see and you'll mostly get european prices. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
@@rishvaantht5243 this. sure we can build a computer for $1000 but a trip to the hospital might put you in debt for 20 years.
Canadian Slim Shady cowboy was not in my bingo card for this year
canadian slim shady cowboy before gta6
The shot where the PC teleports into the case is so cool
love watching episodes like this and seeing like half my new computer on display. same mobo cpu and storage, though i chose the first one based on the physical arangement of the PCIe slots enabling the cards i need to all fit in without using risers, not reviews.
10:56 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive WAS very much CPU-bound, Counter-Strike 2, however, utilises the GPU a lot more
0:40 why is the table on springs??!?
It's not springs, it's Linus workers
It's to absorb the shock when Linus inevitably drops something on it.
Newegg reviews be like: This 4k 120hz is awful because with my 3060 I can't get 4k 120fps in my games. 😂
I dont think I can build a new computer as often as I used to until GPU prices come back to a reasonable level. 1000+ is insane for a single component
Unfortunately, GPU prices don't seem to be decreasing, tho you can get some resonably price-to-performance AMD GPUs that aren't 1000+ dollars
As much as the 4060 and 4060 ti are no good values, they are still good CPUs and can run any game at high settings at 1080p and some at 1440p. I'm at 1080p so that's what I went with. I also got my card as a returned item/open box at Best Buy and that took a bit out of the sting. I'm not against AMD GPU's though. I do some work with mine though too, so I'm just more comfortable with NVidia for that reason.
@@joshstucki4349 Yeah the 4060 and 4060 Ti aren't bad GPUs, they're actually pretty good, just that the price-to-performance value is bad, as you said. Get a 4060 if you REALLY want the DLSS and other Nvidia features maybe for streamers, but for anything else get an AMD GPU that is better performance for around the same price
A 4080 super is worth exactly as much as the entire rest of my computer combined
@@xWatexx For me its worth even more lol, my PC is around 800 USD afaik (I don't live in the US so it is an approximate guess of the price, I also can't remember the exact price lol I think I forgot it on purpose)
When linus does a thing for fun but yet it becomes useful tips for others. Still it's become a dream build for me which I can't afford in my whole lifetime.
That segue was super comical hahaha the tactical roll for cover and the popping up like a cartoon. Love the physical comedy
Linus cosplaying as an Albertan. The end is near.
Whoever pitched the title change deserves an award. that herd title without context was confusing.
up!
When I buy PC parts and build a PC I go for power efficiency above all else. Many people dont understand the long term cost difference between a PC that use 500watts when gaming vs a PC that uses 1200watts when gaming.
Same, I picked a PSU to run most efficiently when my PC is gaming Which is normally at 70 ish percent of the rated max load, yours may vary though.
I pay 6 cents per kwh, for me its all the same.
Depends on where you live.
What PC uses 1200W when gaming? the recommended PSU for a 4090 is 1000W, and those recommendations are usually with margin. Also, how much are you gaming? Maybe if you game 8 hours per day, but I'm lucky if I get in a few hours on the weekends. Even if I lived in a place with high electricity costs, I would rather have higher framerate and enjoy the time I do have for gaming rather than worry about a few 10s of euros per year delta between, say, a more realistic 800W PC vs a 500W one.
What PC uses 1200W when gaming?
I gave my QLED monitor which I haven't opened up, 2x2GB DDR3 from a PC I'm holding for salvage, and my 3.5 inch WD Black 1TB HDD to Jacob. I have no need for a 3.5 inch drive, Cooler Master just release their third iteration of the GM34 monitor which I may end up getting but I'm gonna wait, plus-I needed some space. I made progress by getting rid of... Something. Now I just need to setup some way to finally test a few things with my A12 9800 build.
The herd is shockingly close to my build from last November(upgrade from 2015). I got a 7800X3D and different fans/case but boy did I follow the consumer guides to a tee it turns out!
Been helping me for years thank you Linus and all of the community
It's nuts that you build machines with a $1900 budget and still barelly have 30 fps on a modern game.
Keep in mind they benchmarked Cyberpunk at 4K with presumably pathtracing, which is very taxing on its own.
@@X_irtz It's a 4 year old game...
@@FrescoBlobus Ray/path tracing is quite demanding, even on modern hardware
@@FrescoBlobusever heard of crysis?
@@jordanwardle11they must not have been able to run it
I’m still shocked by how many supposedly ‘in-the-know’ gamers choose Intel.
Anyone who has kept up with the space should know that Ryzen 5000 basically made the Intel high-end redundant [and a bad value] UNLESS you needed something specific, like Intel QuickSync. If you don’t know what that is, you likely don’t need it.
i would love to see a longevity video from LTT Labs comparing different specs for gaming rigs, sorta something like what rting does...
>talks about 13th and 14th gen being sucky broken ass
>uses a 13th gen in the "better" build
1000W power supply and a tiny, slow SSD. The herd's priorities are... interesting.
1000w will likely never have to be upgraded, and the ssd is just the primary ssd. I myself have two other ssds, I try not to use the primary ssd for anything other than the OS
@@jocerv43 You want your primary ssd to be fast. And why get a small one at all, there is no benefit.
@@jocerv43 I've got my whole PC on a 4TB 990 Pro, works well and easy for setting up folders for Vortex etc. I'd never buy an SSD under 1TB nowadays, it's a waste of an M.2 slot. Also, you're unlikely to ever need a 1000W PSU unless you've built an i9-14900K + 4090 PC, which 99% of people never will. You could keep it for your next build though. Head room for an absolute monster in the future. But for the here and now, a bigger SSD is a vastly better use of your money.
@@ruukinen The whole reason why you want a dedicated os drive is so you don't have to worry too much about losing stuff if you end up having to wipe your os install. It's much easier to do a fresh install of windows when everything else is on a different drive. That's why I tell people to get a 500 gigs for windows and a much higher capacity drive(s) for everything else. I personally just do a standard sata ssd for os since windows is never going to utilize the speed of a nvme drive whereas some of my games will benefit.
@@Shadowninja1200 It makes much more sense to have everything you don't want wiped on a slower other drive than to have your OS on your slow drive. Unless your internet is garbage, I don't see why you would want to save your games from getting wiped and if you do, you could just transfer them temporarily to the other drive when wiping the install. I also don't really see the need to wipe an OS install often enough for that to be a worry at all.
0:05 is this real ? Will he have that mark on his arm for the rest of his life?
lol
Yes
A note for the writers/editors: Did you remember to tick the box in the review section to show only reviews for the product our viewing?
I only use and recommend Seasonic. You really can't go wrong. Even in my miniITX build...it's powerful and silent!
fan boys gonna fan boy
5:15 OMG ive been wondering why i cant find the cooler i bought for me pc online anymore. Now i know why lol
I've got one too, in the box.
Who (almost) put that back panel on lol @13:12
@00:40 oh my god this island is WAY less stable than I thought it was. ILLUSION BROKEN.
5:49 filling the PC before Linus fully leaves the Frame: It's the little details that count! Awesome job, Editor!
why is the side panel on your system not all the way on huh? couldnt get the rats nest to fit? 12:49 if you want to see
8:51 Lol, rtx 4080 alone is 1300$ in my country. I would gladly buy PC with 4080 super from you for 2000$ if you wish to help your subscriber.
Cowboy Linus making me feel things rn
Wish I could've played with you longer Linus :c
Usually brand sponsorships don't really catch my attention, but since I started watching LTT videos I have a strange loyalty to Seasonic and dbrand. I'm actually genuinely convinced these brands are two that i'll stick with because of their consistency and also quality which is surprising for a sponsor imo
Is the sound balance of this video a bit off to anyone else? Linus sounds wispy and with high treble.
Kinda sounds like there might be feedback from multiple mics during the gaming comparison? Like at 10:25 or 11:01
There’s definitely some doubled audio in the side by side comparison portion
Yeah, there's echo from multiple mics during the comparison section of the video
Linus : AMD is everything
Me : hold my 100$ 12400f for 4K gaming
@@MambaPurple what gpu did you pair it with?
uhhh my man i don't know if you know this but higher res favors better gpus... and well even if it wasn't the amd X3D chips still give better performance... so it doesn't really matter but you can get a bit more for the same money (upgrade path)
@@casualjay909 I have a 4070 super with a mini itx case. 4K is ok depend the game and sometimes I go to 3200x1800 for demanding game.
@@Ratsacker0269 I reduce to 3200x1800 like console for demanding games with RT, 7800x3D is too expensive for my need. Depend what game, resolution and what constant fps you want to take a 7800x3D. That was i said I prefer put low money on the cpu and maximise the price on GPU. You save a lot of money and u lost only 5 to 10% performance.
@@Ratsacker0269 Yep I know that why heavy cpu is too expensive for my need.
12:56 side panel on left hand PC is sticking out
I wasn't expecting the shout out to my boy Steve1989, glad to know he has fans every where
$1900 for 24 fps is wild
We meet again gentlemen and gentlewomen
@@alexandermeneses5688 Ay Good sir/lady
10:52 What the heck is a 280 super?
He meant to say 2080 super
@@LoomyFPV except it's a 4080 super
@@Druid2212 yeah I know
like how they highlight the 500GB M.2 & Linus says it's a 500Gig but it's a 1TB being installed :D lol
The Steve MRE reference was Nice!
I'm so happy that linus tech tips were the best part
30 secs ago is crazy
Like, I just opened TH-cam
0:30 Why no Cat 5 cable?
5:52 - Steve1989MREInfo nods in approval
the new editor is doing a good job BTW
Complaining about 6000mhz CL36 when that is literally whats recommended for AMD 7000 series? Additionally the 13th and 14th will have trouble running above JEDEC properly.
@@profosist not sure what you’re on. Almost all 13th and 14th gen CPUs can run 7200mhz.
@@whatyareckon5985 the fact that degraded 13th and 14th gen can only reliable we run a single stick at maybe 5200
@@profosist well you’re talking about after degradation. Out of the box performance is different. It depends if intel can be trusted that new CPUs running the new micro code will be able to run 7200mhz for the rated lifetime of the CPU. Either way out of the box I haven’t come across a 13th or 14th gen cpu that can’t run 7200mhz. Also it’s not the memory controller that’s degrading on the CPUs. Most reports indicate the ring bus is what’s dying due to the high voltages.
@@whatyareckon5985 really doesn't matter what's killing them if you have to drop down to one stick of memory at that low of a speed to keep it working. Even then it's not consistent. Personally I'd either go 12th gym if you really need intel since we know that's Rock Solid all right hold on for the new stuff it would be different if I already owned a 13th or 14th gen chip but I for sure wouldn't actually choose to build a system with one.
@@profosist no it doesn’t really matter but ram speed on a degraded CPU is the least of your concerns if you want to go that route. I’ve had a CPU from every Ryzen generation since they came out so i wouldn’t go any intel CPU. I commented because your assertion that intel 13th and 14th gen CPU can’t run above jedec speed is technically incorrect.
5:40 War opinion?
At least it’s a based opinion
Yeah nice to not be funding both sides for once
Doesnt make any sense lol, how does selling to a company that was made in russia directly = supporting the russian government which is VERY authoritatian. Leave deep cool alone.
@@carnagedestruct1520 I just asked. I have no opinion. I go both ways haha
@@happyputt9709 i know thats why i answered
Linus: Does the average user in 2024 really need 64 gigs of ram?
Average user in 2024: Do you even Chrome bro?
50% of average users: I use FireFox.
The "shop around" tip is very true as i have personally saved (after calculation from PLN to USD) around 500 bucks when buying parts for my new rig
Shopping around is the one thing I'd gotten too used to not doing, and just recently rediscovered how much cheaper a lot of stuff is on sites other than Amazon. Some stuff is half the price delivered from elsewhere than it was on Amazon the last time I shopped around.
usa stopping deepcool from selling to russia BUT still selling guns and bombs to israel for gaza genocide tallking about double standards 😂😂
I wonder why 🤔😬
Your lack of critical thinking is really showing
Agreed
More of these types of videos please.
Biggest takeaway from this video is the shoutout to AM4 at the end. 6400MT/s is cool and all, but if you're a little patient you can find some incredible deals on am4 stuff.
Wow, that transition from all the parts to the completed build was insanely smooth. Like this segway to our sponsor. 😉
Just a little correction. At 10:53 Linus said: "2080 super", while it's actually an 4080 super.
Keep up the good work guys
For the SSD, the 970 EVO and Plus both released with firmware that would accelerate the life cycle of the SSD. But you can download the Samsung tool for it and update it on purchase. They also provide a 5 year warranty for the product as long as you purchased it at a retailer. Big win for that price. Promises 5 years of life
I find it so entertaining that the guy with the beard sounds exactly like Oh from year one
I bought the same PSU recently, but the 850W version. I'm glad to hear my choice makes sense 😊
7:26 linus are you turning into a cyborg controlled by elevenlabs
The meshify case was a great choice for a newbie builder. The case design naturally leads to good cable management and there's not too many places to go wrong.
I cannot believe there's a Steve MRE reference.
Gave the video a like just because of the intro. Great stuff lol