1095 Steel, Corrosion/Rust Test for Knife Makers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2015
- What’s the best protection, oil? Wax? WD-40 or 3n1? Renaissance wax or automotive wax? Do blued or acid finishes help? Cold bluing verses ferric chloride? How about mineral oil? Carbon steel blades rust, what are we to do? I tested some common products in my shop on some 1095 blanks, maybe the results will help you decide what’s best for your blades.
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Just about the most carefully done test I've seen on youtube. This is something I'd trust the results of.
What a fantastic test. Very informative and helpful. Greatly appreciated. Time to "step back" and start working with "3 in 1" for my knife projects again. Thank you.
Thank you for this test. You put a ton of time and resources into it and again I offer my thanks.
I'm a huge gun nut, and I've always used rem oil on my blades. Just got a bonus at work and bought the tomahawk I've wanted for several years, and I wanted to know the best possible way to maintain it. This video showed me how wrong I was. Just goes to show, no matter how much you think you know, you can always be shown up. This is quality content.
I rewatch this video from time to time because it shows the comparison so well! Love this video!
Thanks for taking the time to do this- very scientific and professional.
Wow, a lot of work went into that. Thank you for taking the time to document it for us.
Excellent test, excellent information for new to advanced makers. Thanks for putting your time and efforts into this video.
Weird how A 2 year old video is appearing in many people's TH-cam feeds recently. Anyway, great video. Very interesting. I was rooting for mineral oil, because it's food safe, but I was still happy that good ol' 3 in 1 was the winner!
Hey, old videos need some lovin too! Thanks for checking it out.
Wow just the video i needed to see man thank you for taking the time to do this makes a difference
Great test thank very much for the effort. I'm new to knife making so comparisons like this help on so many levels. Cheers again
Thank you so much for doing this test. I’m just getting into knife making and didn’t know the best way to protect the steel. You spent a lot of time and money for many other people’s benefit. I learned a lot! Thank you again.
Very interesting and terrifically kindly that you share the results of your exhaustive test so that we don't have to bother. Thank you.
This is the kind of thing there should be more of on youtube, great work!
This was a great test. I am having problems with my kitchen knifes discoloring and corrosion. This was very helpful. Thanks
Now that is a test! Well done and thank you for the very well done comparison!
Man this is a fantastic test. I'm completely amazed about the 3 in 1 oil. Great video, and great job doing your best to keep the conditions even. Thank you sir.
+Walter White Knives Thanks!
Great test man. very detailed. very professional. Ive made knives for 13 years, and I just learned more about these products in 20mins then in years. thanks so much for putting this together!
+Jeff Davidson Thanks for the kind words, hope it helps a little.
Just wanted to say thank you for doing this experiment and sharing it. Your time and effort are really appreciated, by me at least.
Excellent test and I like the way you gave every treatment a 100% fair chance. I'm amazed at the 3-in-1 oil, going to have to get a bottle of that.
Great video! I always use 3 in 1 oil for my knives. What you have shown here really supports how well it works! Thanks for sharing your findings:)
This has to be the best 1085hc rust test on TH-cam thanks for putting this together I was seriously shocked to see the results
Me too! Thanks.
An excellent corrosion test. I remember reading online that food grade grease was excellent for corrosion protection on knives.
Fair play for taking the time to do this test and sharing!👏👏
Great test. I have been using 3in1 myself, only because I had it around and wanted to protect my blades. I read different complaints from people claiming their knives were rusting fast (Not sure what they were using, but not 3in1)...but I've never had a problem and NOW I know why thanks to you! All the best!
Great test thank you for sharing
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Man i love your videos you are the most honest reviewer i ever seen, thank you so much for your efforts ❤
It's really good of you to sacrifice blanks so we can learn. I've had issues with rust on o1 tool steel knives. Thanks again. 👍
O1 and 1095 are the worst! I like both steels a lot, but you've got to stay on top of them.
thanks for all of your hard work
Do the same test with blued and 3 in 1 oil please
Great video! Thank you for taking the time to make it!
Superb test thank you for taking the time and sharing your findings - very useful
As someone who evaluates experiments as part of their living, this was well done indeed. Especially the control and the common environment. I have found that rust bluing holds up better than a cold blue, but you certainly seem to have it down. I will be buying more 3 in 1 oil.
Thanks!
Very interesting! Thanks for the time you took and common sense approach. Love it.
Thanks for checking it out! I've been a subscriber of your channel for a long time, love your stuff.
I am honored, buddy!
Very interesting and thorough test for these products. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for taking the time to do this
Six years later and I’ve just found this. Thanks a lot for doing this experiment. What I’m getting out of it is bluing with 3-in-1 oil would be the best treatment and cost effective given what you have. I’m not as surprised at the bluing as I am the 3-in-1 oil.
I’ve never found RemOil to be good at much. This just confirms it.
Does rem oil suck? That's a bummer. I use rem oil on all my guns and knives
@Self Made, Great job! I have always been told by my grandfather and my father, 3in1, Unless your going to use it for food.
Then use mineral oil after every use.
just got some 1095 in today to start making knives...very informative thank you....my dad and I have always used 3in1 since I can remember and has always done the trick I just didn't know it was this darn good...thanks man!!
Good luck! It's a fun hobby, easy to to get hooked.
Great test and very informative. I appreciate the effort made into making this video and it absolutely gives me some insight as far as corrosion protection agents that I will use on my knife and sword collection.
Thanks for checking it out. Lots of options out there, but the key is just keeping it maintained.
Dude was like, screw internet speculation. THIS is what ACTUALLY happens.
I also want to mention that I use 3in1 for all maintenance of any tool I own. I'm in the weather year round in my job, and rain will tighten up any one of my tools up in a solid day. easily. I use a lot of pliers and crimpers with metal hinges.Typically, outside of the occasional reapply after a rain shower, I only have to apply the oil maybe twice a year. I wished I had a video of it, but I've got a pair of old channel locks I soaked in oil for about a week to break it's seize. They're one of my better pairs of pliers. WD-40 is meant for a temporary application until a better alternative is available. It's only a bandaid placed on a gunshot wound, if you will. Be safe out there fellers.
Fantastic video!! This was something I was very curious about. Thanks for doing this test!
What a great test. Well done. Thank you for sharing this with us.
This was a really great test.
i think this is how a test have to be
Thanks for the video
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Great test! I wonder what blued and ferric chloride with 3 in 1 oil would look like. You made me a believer in 3 in1!
Brother you are an answered prayer! I just finished my first large survival/bushcraft knife and I blued it only to find some slight surface rust in two days! I will now re=blue and oil with 3in1. You ROCK and you have a new sub my brother! - Donny
Awesome job! This is extremely helpful, there has been a lot of talk about the best way to treat knives online and this definitely shows real world results. I'm surprised, but now I know how to send out my knives with confidence. Thank you!
Thanks, hope it helps.
Thanks!
Great video, i will definitely be using 3in1 on my damascus steel knives . Just goes to show you that expensive doesnt mean better. Good ole 3in1 , cheap , readily available. Just reassuring the " if it ain't broke dont fix it" saying. Thanks.
Well, I finally found a video I can point people at. All I ever hear from arm chair bush crafters is that 1095 will rust up. I've been using em in some of the dampest environments possible, hell I have an ESEE that goes on my kayak when I go fishing. All I did was remove what was left of their finish, force an acid patina, then oil with food safe mineral oil. A little upkeep goes a long way.
Exactly, upkeep is the key. I use a lot of 1095 and its fine if you take care of it.
FANTASTIC VIDEO SIR! This taught me so much on how to care for all 100+ knives I own! I have many in 1095 & enjoy stripping coatings (except on ESEE). So, I guess I "blue" the blades then soak them in 3 in 1 oil overnight, then wipe off?
I'm really impressed man. Thank you very much for making this video. Thorough & explanatory! God Bless.
Than you for this great video! A lot of work went into it, we all appreciate it.
Awesome experiment! Thank you
Thanks!
Lonewolf6565. For some reason I can't reply to your comment normally, so.... The point of doing rust testing on "in the white" blanks is that I wanted them to be as identical of a surface as possible. Not sure what you mean by "without a finish"? I sell blades without a finish all the time. If you mean hand sanding finish, well, I also sell blades with a media blast finish too. I was just trying to find a way to make a fair test. I didn't think I could get the exact same hand sanded or buffed finish on 10 blanks. And, not sound mean, but you do not know what you're talking about on leather sheath keeping moisture away from a blade. Just the opposite it true! Leather absorbs moisture, even just from the air in your home. Thanks for you comment, I'm open to everyone's opinion and I know I'm not an expert.
Self Made Agreed,... its not so much about the finish per say but more about a comparison of products that can be used to prevent rust and how they perform on basic finishes and yes I too sell blades all the time without a finish. On carbon blades I would send them out the door with a light film of 30wt motor oil, might hafta switch to 3 in 1 now in light of your test,..thanks!
Just read his comment, he isn't very knowledgeable on production knifes. There are far more bead blasted and polished knives made and sold that blue. The whole reason the knife community talks about patinas on carbon knives is due to lack of finishes used on knifes. Mainly due to wear on finishes during use. How many knives would get sent back under warranty for finish wear if all knives where blued?
+Self Made i think we all knew Wd40 was going to do good i mean its name it literally water displacement formula 40 and i knew 3 in 1 was going to do good just didn't think it was going to be better than WD40 i call this test time well spent
+VK70001.P , I'm unsurprised by the success of the 3 in 1 oil as it's manufactured by the same company as wd-40.
Darryl Machtmes honestly i should have known 3 in1 was going to do better its what i use to clean all my guns
Thanks for "your "
1,000 + ways and you tried to learn and show results that fair play and I've just finished acid etching and the gun blue and going to find a hot bluing system that should be even better protection.
I viewed this vid about a year ago, and I pass it on to people I know whom work with metal or tools in some way ... my grandad used 3 in 1 and so did I growing up on rifles, knives etc.
I had no idea it was the BEST choice .... great tests
Thanks, I knew it was ok, but I too was a little surprised how well it did.
You consider yourself to be an amutare but this is a high quality test. Good information.
Thanks!
Thats a pretty good scientific test.
excellent content. thanks for the experiment. you even have a control. thumbs up man.
I am never using rem oil again. Thank you for this video. Every knife and gun enthusiasts should see these result!
Thank you. I've been using WD and 3n1 on my guns since I was born. Millennial gun guys call that fudd behavior . Shows what they know. It was good enough for dad and grandpa, so its good enough for me.
Me too, those two were always present when I was growing up. Still are around my place, thanks.
Awesome test man! Thank you for sacrificing 11 blades for this test.May they rust in peace.
Why are they sacrificed? They can be recovered with a light surface grind, given they are blanks and have yet to be ground to final blade dimensions ( since they have no blade bevel ATM...)
Appreciate the time and effort you put into this. Seems that you covered all your bases to keep the comparison as even as possible. good information to have since I am looking to start making knives.
Warning, it can be a very addictive hobby! Expensive too, but you can start simple and build up. It's a fun skill to learn, but I don't get to spend as much time on it as I'd like. Good luck!
Yah, I got interested in it mainly because I love my kitchen and cooking and hated the idea of spending $100s on a kitchen knife. Being a handy guy I figured that I had to be able to make my own. Well after researching and watching videos over the last few months I feel I have enough information now to get myself in trouble (or just have fun). Either way I just want something that I can spend time on when i have it to spend.
This is an absolutely amazing video. Thank you so much for doing this. Very, very useful information when it comes to MK2 knives :)
Great real world testing! I am so tired of keyboard warriors with their theories, your experiment settles any argument. Great video.
Thanks, but I'm sure it doesn't settle it for everyone. It sure gave me the info I needed for my own personal opinion.
@@npgatech7 thanks for your comment, of course, I agree!
I wonder if the results would have been different if you used a heat gun and heated each blade and then applied the oil or wax due to the metal allowing the oil to penetrate and flow better.
Awesome test! I wish I found this video a week ago. I've been trying to find a good finish for my knives. I've looked into cerakote, acid etching and oils and waxes. I think I just found my winning combo. Acid etching or blueing with a good coat of 3 in 1 oil. Thank you so much!
Thanks for checking it out. Acid or cold bluing is a great, simple way to get that protective layer on a knife. Good luck!
I really like the 3 in one test. I'm pretty convinced. Good test.
Self Made, you should try a test (without duplicating the whole procedure) with FrogLube. Primarily a firearm lubricant. I've watched many corrosion proofing vids with over 100 products. FrogLube is always in position 1-4 for corrosion resistance. Has HUGE added advantage for cutlery in that it's a food grade product. It's what I use on all my firearms and carbon blades.
Just food for thought.
+yoda mo Frog Lube is my list to try if I make a part 2, a lot of guys have recommended it.
you proved my father rite he was a machinest for 30 years and swor by 3-n-1 oil to keep his tools rust free and moving parts moving.
Hey, cool! Pretty good stuff, thanks.
Very informative. I've always used an old container of Johnson's traffic wax to protect carbon knives and the cast iron table on my table saw. For my Gransfors Bruks and other axes I've used a mix of oil and bees wax. This mix is sometimes used on leather sheaths I make. I'll have to give 3 in 1 oil a try.
I’m going to be bluing and putting three and one on all my knives. Thanks for doing this great test!
Blued + 3in1 ftw!
this video is outstanding.
Thanks!
Great video and surprising results - 3:1 oil is awesome stuff! Thanks for sharing
This is awesome. Great insight. I recently made a knife out of 1095 and noticed light rusting from just whittling/cutting fruit and realized I need to treat it after I'm done polishing the blade.
Thanks, let us know what you end up using. Food safety has been a big topic in the comments.
You have convinced thousands to buy 3 in 1
+Ozni Wellman You're sort of right, but wouldn't you agree that blued/oxide finishes help prevent corrosion? By applying oil to that finish, it improves the resistance even more. So, logically thinking, wouldn't applying a better oil to that finish would improve it more? I wish I had used the 3n1 instead of the RemOil, but I assumed I started with the better oil. If I do another test, I'll be sure to include that combo.
Shame to see those blanks go to waste, but thanks for doing this! If you do future tests, I would use smaller blanks for testing
Thanks. Nothing was wasted, they just get a trip through the surface grinder and they're good as new. I'm usually really frugal with blade steel, so I don't have much scrap.
Damn good test, I don't think this could have been done any better very controlled very informative. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Thanks for checking it out.
Thank you so much for doing this test!
I'm sure, a fella could spend hours upon hours and truckloads of material testing every method out there, but what you have done is great!
Thanks!
Great video! Appreciate seeing this test! Thanks!
You don't think four entries being ren/rem will be confusing? Renaissance, remington. Takes a split second to say the whole thing, and removes all confusion.
Your comment is confusing.
It is hilarious to me that people use all this expensive or "purpose made" stuff, and 3-in-one oil is the best out of everything.
This test is as close to scientific as possible. With people did more tests thr way you this test is done. Best wishes
Great comparison video! Really appreciate the time, effort and money you've invested in this vid!
Thanks bud!
excellent test. you are far from an amateur my friend. i think if you had done the 3 in 1 on the blued and acid dipped it would have been better than the ren and rem. anyways- thanks for the vid. very surprising and informative. as of now, im sold on the 3 in 1.
Thanks for checking it out!
My trick is to keep my knives dry. haha
Dude your a badass! Thanks for the awesome experiment to help us blacksmiths.
Very beautiful knife. Great test, thanks.
Funny how nobody uses 100% RAW COLD pressed linseed oil. The raw cold pressed has a moleculesize of only 0,000005mm (BLO has considerable bigger molecules of 0,0001mm). It penetrates into the metal and here in Norway we use it on cars, agricultural machines etc. It's the best I know of for knives and axes etc too.
It would be interesting to see a test between this and you 3in1 oil😉
Hey, sounds like cool idea. I've never really seen anybody use it here really. Blacksmith work sometimes gets coated with it while hot.
Doesn't cold-pressed linseed oil remain sticky, as compared to boiled linseed oil? I thought that was the reason to avoid the raw linseed oil as treatment to protect wooden tool handles. It's aggravatingly sticky, and remains so
Beeswax on all my carbon steel, works great
Thanks for doing this test and posting it. Good to know.
Great tests, well done!
WD40 is a good cleaning and lubricating product. WD stands for water displacement, the down side of WD40 is the lubricant evaporates away pretty quickly leaving the surface unprotected. The 3-in-1 is a good solid lubricating oil. When I clean my guns and knives I always clean with WD40, then wipe everything down and lube with 3-in-1. I've done this since I was a child and my grandfather showed me how to clean guns.
Fact is, it doesn't matter what base metal or coating you have on your blade or gun, if you don't periodically take them out and give them a good wipe and clean they will corrode.
Good video.
AFAIK a standard WD-40 does not contain any lubricating substance.
Ken Parnell I also heard WD-40 leaves no protection behind. Thanks for the info on what WD stands for. That's the main thing I use it for along with wash down. 3-in-1 is spindle oil with citronella for scent. I'm trying WD-40 gel but it's very messy and expensive. Maybe best used lightly.
I'll add 3&1 oil to my blued knives.
Eezox. Hands down from what I've seen is second to none. Good VIDEO!
Great job!! I feel this was a very helpful test. 3 in 1 it is. i have been using the Mothers carnuba, but this changes that.
+JDP Knifeworks Thanks. Mothers was recommended to me by a very well known maker. I think it works ok for a wax, you'd just have to keep it coated well after every use.
None of those are food safe, I use bees wax and kpl knife shield but mineral oil also works
The first knife was with mineral oil..come on man....lol
@@bigiron5508 I know that's why I mentioned mineral oil, but the rest aren't
I believe in WD-40 for multiple purposes.
Me too, I use it for a lot of things. Pretty handy.
3 in 1 it is! Thank you for this, I was about to settle on Renaissance oil for my blades... I may get some for the versatility if it is indeed good for leather, but for the blades it's looking like 3 in 1 is king
Thanks for making this video, it answered my questions on this subject very well. I do wish you had tested a blued only blank too, as a baseline for the blued/oiled blades, but otherwise, it's great. I'm now subscribed.
Thanks! Yeah, it answered a few questions for me, but brought out a few new ones too.