people need to realize he most likely can't be honest with his natty status. If his parents or people he knew found out, it could be a terrible situation as he is taking drugs as a minor
His parents most likely know where is he gonna store all his juice needles and aromatase inhibitor drugs. However, I blame him for promoting this shit on tik tok to get fame. I wouldn't blame someone to lie about juice if he isn't an influencer there is stigma around it in our society but if ur flexing on kids on social media you should be open about it.
@@brotheronhigh4650 he is genuelny natural I went school with him and over the year he has slowly got bigger then he moved Away he was In the gym everyday smashing it out
Just want to clarify for the people in the comments. This guy blasts gear and is not natural and do not expect to make the same results. The reason why Joe is smaller even though he's been training longer might be because of genetics but also because Joe is natty.
You can blast all the gear you want, a lot of people will never reach his level because of his genetics. benching 190kg at 17 and being as big as he is with only 2 years of training is insane even with steroids. He has similar genetic potential to ronnie coleman
i think we all know he isn't natural but its still a damn impressive physique in under 2 years with gear. i think joe also knows but its just doing it for the content i suppose. im 17 myself been lifting for a year now
I have never seen a guy bench 180kg in my life (6 years gym experience) and this 17 year old is complaining about his lifts. You gotta make a video with him over a year again to see his progress!
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He is probably close to his genetic limit. Some may disagree but he’s put on muscle so fast that he’ll reach his limit soon. Quinton Eriya has arguably better genetics because he put on soo much muscle in the space of a few months with mediocre training, back when he was natural! But the size of Sollie rn in his natural state is larger than Quinton back in his natural state. Although Sollie seems to have a wider frame which explains his larger size. Genetic freaks imo!
@@AHM_ALB How pathetic does your view of the natural limit have to be that you think you can get there in 2 years? I can't wrap my head around people who think so little of the human body that they think you can "cap it out" after practically no time at all. Like up your standards a bit at least man. Natural limit is a BS myth anyway, there's nothing in your DNA that says you suddenly can't get stronger or bigger anymore.
My man takes steroids for sure but he achieved what most can’t on steroid Just like what he said He enjoys lifting and gone through the grind bless with genetics plus even more hard work to accomplish this
I usually hate people who call out everyone that has a good physique for being enhanced but man ... That kind of lifts, size (and pretty good condition) with only 2 years of training, while looking quite tall on top of it ... It's also obvious that his form and technic aren't the best and he still pulls out those numbers. You can't help but think, what if he started taking gear, what would he lift ? He would deadlift 300+ kg at 17 with 2 years of training ? I'll just say it's very very suspicious because even if he is enhanced those are still insane numbers and an insane physique, he almost has the size of a pro classic physique competitor.
It’s also shitty because he claims to be natural when he obviously isnt - this causes unrealistic expectations for people like you and me and can make people feel bad
You should still be proud of your benches, as long as your getting stronger that's all that matters. Being strong has nothing to do with other people. Compare the you of today with the you of yesterday, not other people.
@@sillyme2598 Well done for doing it the natural way. Within 10 years this 17 year old kid is going to be in serious trouble. Those roids are going to eat his cells and destroy his lymphatic system.
@@KTrenSoest hypothetically speaking, if he was natty, then imagine if he did roids the past 2 years, he'd have a Mr Olympia physique at 17.... You see the issue with your logic?
congrats on the big 900k brother! but lets not kid ourselves that guy is about as natural as mike o Hearn, not taking anything away from him but he should be honest
I think many of us did not like the fact that you decided to go with the ''he is natural'' even though you know yourself he is not, Joe. He is a kid, 17 years old, been training for less than 2 years, yet he is that muscular and lifts that heavy? Let me tell you, it is impressive either way, he does have amazing genetics, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY he is natural. You are a person who has been lifting for many years now and has always struggled to put on a lot of muscle due to below average genetics (I am the same as you). You know the struggle of getting big NATURALLY whilst having very meh genes. You shouldn't be lying about his status so you can be nice to him, 'believing' him despite being crystal clear, or even worse, explaining how he is so big naturally. There are kids watching your videos.
I highly encourage you to check out Mike Israetel's channel. That physique? That strength? Steroids won't give them to 90% of people. In the end (as sad as it is to hear this) there's no secret, only genetics. As a matter of fact steroids can give you roughly and increase of only 10% on strength on average.
Something has to be wrong here, and I’d guess that it is training age. I do believe that it is possible to bench 190kg at 17 naturally with perfect genetics, but not with less than 2 years of training
@@MrOzzy1631 190kg bench doesn’t fall under “naturally strong”, and I bet your mate either intensely train’s something relating to strength, has previous training, or has atrocious form, because whilst I don’t doubt that he has good genetics, you don’t bench 120kg first try whilst being “not that big”
@@ohareair552 na id just imagine he is on cycle, main reason is his traps. No fucking way man, id believe the rest, why do you think he doesnt want to compete? he is gonna get flagged in comp.
@@moreasmorebaes9996 Potentially lying about the timeframe too. According to his claim in the video, he got 100kg for 5 on bench less than 3 months into lifting, which I think indicates that he is lying about both things
Its crazy to see people like this, I did meet dude like this about a year ago while I was in the army. 20 yold, some sport background but nothing crazy, chilling 80-85 kg naturally, I told him he has really insane potential and motivated him to start training. just saw him face to face the other day and was telling me about how he has been training sloppy on and off about 6 months and he is repping 100kg on the bench (with out any kind of form) he is at the same strength as me with 3-4 years less experiance haha some people are just built for this.
@@DeepMotivation-DM it’s not! Benching 225lbs for 1RM puts you in the 99% percentile of the world. It’s only ‘normal’ in fittok or TH-cam, where you see the genetic freaks and best of the best time after time.
@@wileecoyote5749 if you don't have the genetics to look like this, no matter how many steroids you shove in your ass you wont look like this, thats like saying if you eat well enough everyone can be 6'5, that isn't how it works
@@wileecoyote5749 mike tyson looked like a grown man at 15, this kid looked like a kid at 15, hes clearly on steroids its obvious, his genetics r subpar hes just very receptive to usage cause hes young.
I’m 24 and I’m really proud of my 160kg bench press … I’m going nuts seeing this kid bench press 180kg like nothing … and he could have done 190 most likely… I’m 110KG… low fat and I’ve been training since I was 14 This is just crazy generics with some nice dose of Vitamin S 🙄
He is on roids 100% and also not that small amount of them, idk about his genetics but he wont look even close to that if he was natural @@danielblom2189
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There's a chance he is not natty. you would never know unless he got a random blood test which would probs not happen. Don't just take anyone's word for it because someone can say they don't use PEDs, bit they do. Keep an open mind, Happy lifting king 👑👑
He's definitely on steroids, arnold at 17 had been training for around the same amount of time and was nowhere near this guys size, and I thinks everyone agrees Arnold has god tier genetics
If anyone thinks he’s natural they clearly don’t understand how muscles in the human body work🤣🤣it is physically impossible to go from that skinny to that elite in 2 years… PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE… I’m not saying it’s not amazing coz it absolutely is, but it’s not natural
Everyone is saying he can’t be natural, but I think he is, I went from 50kg bench to 110kg fully natural with an awful diet, 5ft 11 70kg bw. Genetics are sometimes more powerful than the strongest PEDS
i think its possible (strength wise) only beqause i can relate to myself i only train for 2 years and my bench is 140kg deadlift 210kg squat 160kg but im only 75kg. and with corona the gyms where closed so lets say im training for 1,5 years then with consistency. i think if you take 2 years what he has, eat more then what i did beqause some months just sucked with eating and have (best) genetics then i think this is possible.
It really isn’t. Even some ppl with good genetics have to at least have on spot technique (he himself doesn’t have that) so more than likely he’s just doing light gear
He isnt natural, obviously. I respect the physique but not the man carrying it. If you're going to be flexing on social media etc, giving people false hope, telling ure natural when you clearly arent, saying ure doing it "just because u like weight lifting" then you're straight up lying and I cant and wont respect you. You dont grow this in under 2 years, not even if you're genetically gifted. That's 1 way of easily telling hes lying, also when Joe asks him, any human thats able to read another human can tell hes lying. I'll just explain briefly: hes putting his hands together to self-sooth himself (calm himself down), making more body gestures, moving his head, hands etc..., avoiding eye contact with Joe unlike he did prior to the question. Now for the more scientific part of this, all muscles have androgen receptors. They're types of nuclear receptors in your muscle cells that are activated by the binding of androgenic hormones. Male deltoids (shoulders) and trapezoids (Traps, muscles between neck and shoulder) have a higher number of androgen receptors than other muscles, hence them growing bigger in people who use steroids, like this guy. You also showed his dad, who clearly is into fitness aswell, the chances of them both being genetically gifted are pretty much 0. But the chances of his dad having used steroids and providing his son with them are way way higher.
He is juiced that's obvious; however, what is really disgusting about the situation is joe bringing this guy on his Chanel just because he is running out of ideas. He is promoting this bullshit; therefore, helping this kid give body dysmorphia to actual young natural bodybuilders what a shame
@@coolgainz9307 Hey bro the thing is he could have ended it with the guy's response no problem there but he decided to try to convince us that he is natural look at his dad lol his dad is smaller than him lmao makes no sense
My brother started training hard at 15 years old, and by the time two and a half years had passed - he was quite close to this. And he really have not used any toxic stuff for the gains. He just got my dads genetics, ate a shit ton and prioritized. I look in the comment-section and im wowed over how little many believe in genetics, hard work and food. I will ofc get hate for this, but in two years with those gains, we cannot think that there isnt a SLIGHTEST chance that it is pure, even though the doubt is big of course. I hope at least someone can see this, and that our human genetics can be real impressive, and so on. (And when you go on gaindrugs, your muscles doesnt build the same, so a big big with drugs can be much weaker than a small guy that doesn't take the drugs. This guy has the pure power one usually get from real training. )
No,i believe him and you,ig some people just don’t want to accept they got bad genetics and try to say “gears” cause i’ve been training for 3 months and my friend who been training for 2 years are FLABBERGASTED they say i look like em when they’re 1 year into lifting.It is crazy but some people are blessed and i’m happy to be one of em!plus i’m black so ig thats why
This kid is so strong it's insaneeeee, but the world record attempt wouldn't count sadly as his arse lifted up and he didn't pause... BUT STILL INSANELY STRONG, I can't even deadlift what he benched
It’s so crazy that sully is the same age as me and he’s bigger than me and been training for 2 years while I started training 3-4 years natural but I can tell sully has insane genetics to put on a lot of muscle and 100% not natural
@@coolgainz9307 its pretty much impossible for him to be natural. even for being om steriods it is insane to get these results in 2 years. He is on steriods its a fact.
He is 17 years old. There is no way anybody his age would publicly admit being on gear. There are plenty of other people his age on gear, so why would you believe that a natty is capable of setting world records when his competition is on the 🧃 Edit: Also, looking at his Instagram, he made 4 years progress in less than a year. He could definitely be natural right now but he was for sure on something during the first year of lifting.
Wow, truly impressive. Hey, I have a question for you. The plates you use at home, are they metric or pounds? I live in the US (obviously) and the one time I went to Australia and hit the gym, I was flummoxed by the free weights - everything was different! It took a lot of experimenting to come close to dumbbells and barbells for my routine. I'm sure the same for you if you visit America.
Let me see a blood test 💉😉 there is no chance he’s natural but still very very impressive still a good genetic….people’s should be honest about Ped’s use..15yo kids gonna believe it’s achievable naturally…sad reality of the fitness industry 😔 Joe keep up the good work greeting from Quebec,Canada 🇨🇦
Had a classmate who hit a 410lb bench in high school, and was natural. Honestly don’t see anything about this guy’s physique that pops out to say he’s juiced at all.
Alot of people saying his not natural, although I'm not saying his natural or not, but I don't like people labeling something without evidence. Don't matter how it looks.
So y’all know, his strength and physical transformation are impossible naturally, especially in under 2 years. He’s on gear for sure, before you start banging out push-ups in your bedroom thinking this is possible
people need to realize he most likely can't be honest with his natty status. If his parents or people he knew found out, it could be a terrible situation as he is taking drugs as a minor
His parents most likely know where is he gonna store all his juice needles and aromatase inhibitor drugs. However, I blame him for promoting this shit on tik tok to get fame. I wouldn't blame someone to lie about juice if he isn't an influencer there is stigma around it in our society but if ur flexing on kids on social media you should be open about it.
he's beyond "looking natural", wouldn't be surprised if its his parents or a family friend is the one supplying him
I don’t believe he’s natural, I understand why he’s keeping it as a secret though because of his age.
@@brotheronhigh4650 he is genuelny natural I went school with him and over the year he has slowly got bigger then he moved Away he was In the gym everyday smashing it out
@@bradleycarter1066 No disrespect my guy but even though you went to school with him that doesn’t mean he’s not using steroids..
Just want to clarify for the people in the comments. This guy blasts gear and is not natural and do not expect to make the same results. The reason why Joe is smaller even though he's been training longer might be because of genetics but also because Joe is natty.
You can blast all the gear you want, a lot of people will never reach his level because of his genetics. benching 190kg at 17 and being as big as he is with only 2 years of training is insane even with steroids. He has similar genetic potential to ronnie coleman
@@Obstone0 Aye, it's pretty sick. Man's got insane potential
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@The Gaming Channel maybe so, you just never know. Someone could even like about being on gear but they natty
@@LifeOfLiana is the KSI drink a rip off?
i think we all know he isn't natural but its still a damn impressive physique in under 2 years with gear. i think joe also knows but its just doing it for the content i suppose. im 17 myself been lifting for a year now
same
@Issam Melzi i think with gear and god genetics it can
@Issam Melzi definitely💯 lets spam it to him
I’m 17 too and I’ve been training 3-4 years naturally and no where near sully’s physique
@Issam Melzi Yeah
I'm 16 years old and this man looks like he could be my father
Same 😂
Yeah
Lol seriously I'm 16 and have been training for an year . He looks like my dad
cap he deosnt look that old
@@xxz2275 no
I have never seen a guy bench 180kg in my life (6 years gym experience) and this 17 year old is complaining about his lifts. You gotta make a video with him over a year again to see his progress!
ive seen max 160kg bench in 4 years of training lmao
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He is probably close to his genetic limit. Some may disagree but he’s put on muscle so fast that he’ll reach his limit soon. Quinton Eriya has arguably better genetics because he put on soo much muscle in the space of a few months with mediocre training, back when he was natural! But the size of Sollie rn in his natural state is larger than Quinton back in his natural state. Although Sollie seems to have a wider frame which explains his larger size.
Genetic freaks imo!
@@AHM_ALB How pathetic does your view of the natural limit have to be that you think you can get there in 2 years? I can't wrap my head around people who think so little of the human body that they think you can "cap it out" after practically no time at all. Like up your standards a bit at least man. Natural limit is a BS myth anyway, there's nothing in your DNA that says you suddenly can't get stronger or bigger anymore.
Go to a powerlifting gym you’ll see some strong people
0% chance he's natural, those lifts are insane even enhanced.
Yeah honestly.....Cause how???
Still doesnt come close to Teenage Larry
@@quincyzebra1910 kinda surpassed teen larry if you ask me
He been training for just 2 years obv with gear
@@kwadjowusu-ansah6805 maybe he's a Larry wheel's son :D lmao
My man takes steroids for sure
but he achieved what most can’t on steroid
Just like what he said
He enjoys lifting and gone through the grind
bless with genetics plus even more hard work to accomplish this
You shouldn't agree that he's natural just to make him like you or whatever be honest Joe thats one thing I admired you for
I agree
100%
Joe isnt honest about people being natural he has lied before
@@oloyt6844 Where else did he lie? Could be possible I didnt notice it
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I usually hate people who call out everyone that has a good physique for being enhanced but man ...
That kind of lifts, size (and pretty good condition) with only 2 years of training, while looking quite tall on top of it ... It's also obvious that his form and technic aren't the best and he still pulls out those numbers.
You can't help but think, what if he started taking gear, what would he lift ? He would deadlift 300+ kg at 17 with 2 years of training ?
I'll just say it's very very suspicious because even if he is enhanced those are still insane numbers and an insane physique, he almost has the size of a pro classic physique competitor.
bro , its juice. cmon my man is benching 4 plates at 17
Why doesn’t he start juicing and become mr Olympia
Cause bro he didn’t have that amazing a starter physique. In 2 years he has put on unbelievable amounts of muscle
he's already juicing, wake up
@@RichCwm ik I said that
the fact I went to school with this guy and he is actually 17 and to see how much he’s changed is so crazy man big up Sollie!
was he cool?
@@danielmcewen4417 yeah man
@Abdulaziz Mohammed bro, I’m 26, and I don’t look like this lmao.
Am I right in thinking it was birmingham?
Was he taking steroids in the middle of class too? Big up Steroid Sollie!!!!!
I'm Currently 19 years old and i was very proud of my 65 KG bench press...
and then i saw i this, it's absolutely insane.
It’s also shitty because he claims to be natural when he obviously isnt - this causes unrealistic expectations for people like you and me and can make people feel bad
And i'm 24 proud of 25 kg press😆
same, just hit a 3x5 65kg then i saw this :D
You should still be proud of your benches, as long as your getting stronger that's all that matters. Being strong has nothing to do with other people. Compare the you of today with the you of yesterday, not other people.
@@sillyme2598 Well done for doing it the natural way. Within 10 years this 17 year old kid is going to be in serious trouble. Those roids are going to eat his cells and destroy his lymphatic system.
doesn’t matter if he is natural or not. 180kg is insane.
180kg is always insane, but less insane when blasting gear and claiming natural
Record breaking lifts, 17, massive, shredded in two, yes TWO years... yeah, he's natural 🤣 Joe, you are so gullible 🤦♂️
@@KTrenSoest hypothetically speaking, if he was natty, then imagine if he did roids the past 2 years, he'd have a Mr Olympia physique at 17.... You see the issue with your logic?
Joe knows he's not natty it's just the influencer circle, all a facade.
@@AnonymousSuperTuber there's no issues with that logic his progress isn't natural
People are genetic freaks. How could you know. He might have the hercules gene. My friend is pretty much his size and he's all natural.
@@-ajms- yeah and my friend is stronger than Eddie hall, source, just trust me bro
That feeling when Joe uploads and makes your day just a bit better, cheers mate
Pathetic
congrats on the big 900k brother! but lets not kid ourselves that guy is about as natural as mike o Hearn, not taking anything away from him but he should be honest
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I just died of laughter looking at his face and he smirks at the camera and says he's natural.
Bless.
Stop the hating f american!
I think many of us did not like the fact that you decided to go with the ''he is natural'' even though you know yourself he is not, Joe.
He is a kid, 17 years old, been training for less than 2 years, yet he is that muscular and lifts that heavy? Let me tell you, it is impressive either way, he does have amazing genetics, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY he is natural.
You are a person who has been lifting for many years now and has always struggled to put on a lot of muscle due to below average genetics (I am the same as you). You know the struggle of getting big NATURALLY whilst having very meh genes.
You shouldn't be lying about his status so you can be nice to him, 'believing' him despite being crystal clear, or even worse, explaining how he is so big naturally. There are kids watching your videos.
I highly encourage you to check out Mike Israetel's channel. That physique? That strength? Steroids won't give them to 90% of people. In the end (as sad as it is to hear this) there's no secret, only genetics. As a matter of fact steroids can give you roughly and increase of only 10% on strength on average.
Facts Cesar
I agree that he’s not natural cause no way he put on that pounds of muscle in 2 years
One quick glance at his traps and it’s obvious
joe has tall body and has high metabolism. that other dude shorter and eats alot
He seems like a really chill person👍🏽
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I think deep down even Joe knows he's not natural
Bro JOE not gonna lie but your arms looking massiv too they‘ve increased brutal over the last few months respect keep it up
Something has to be wrong here, and I’d guess that it is training age. I do believe that it is possible to bench 190kg at 17 naturally with perfect genetics, but not with less than 2 years of training
Some people are naturally strong? My friend can bench 120kg, not even that big and he doesn’t train
@@MrOzzy1631 190kg bench doesn’t fall under “naturally strong”, and I bet your mate either intensely train’s something relating to strength, has previous training, or has atrocious form, because whilst I don’t doubt that he has good genetics, you don’t bench 120kg first try whilst being “not that big”
Ffs he only trained 2 years and he is 17 he is 100% juiced ain't no debate
@@ohareair552 na id just imagine he is on cycle, main reason is his traps. No fucking way man, id believe the rest, why do you think he doesnt want to compete? he is gonna get flagged in comp.
@@moreasmorebaes9996 Potentially lying about the timeframe too. According to his claim in the video, he got 100kg for 5 on bench less than 3 months into lifting, which I think indicates that he is lying about both things
Wether he was natural or not , the kids 17 that’s mad impressive in any stand points for his age .
Two years and he is natural 😂 joe we all already know the secret
Think we need a coach Greg video on him tbf natty or not or something like that
He hasn’t been able to press in ages due to a chest injury and comes back and presses 190 kg
Tren, Anadrol and BPC-157 and copious amounts of creatine and other crap...
Of course it's possible looool
why you all hating. Like can we just appreciate his strength - natural or not, it's insane and I'm proud there's a human like that tf
Yeah like who cares if sollie is natural or not, I respect his hard work and dedication
Its crazy to see people like this,
I did meet dude like this about a year ago while I was in the army.
20 yold, some sport background but nothing crazy, chilling 80-85 kg naturally, I told him he has really insane potential and motivated him to start training.
just saw him face to face the other day and was telling me about how he has been training sloppy on and off about 6 months and he is repping 100kg on the bench (with out any kind of form)
he is at the same strength as me with 3-4 years less experiance haha some people are just built for this.
Mate u realize this 17 year old is benching almost double, there is no way he is natural although his genetics are insane
@@pootiss4040 Id like to believe he is natural, unlikely but does not really affect my life does it 😂
@el eija no clue how people think its normal to bench 100kg after that amount of time with "normal" bodyweight
@@DeepMotivation-DM it’s not! Benching 225lbs for 1RM puts you in the 99% percentile of the world. It’s only ‘normal’ in fittok or TH-cam, where you see the genetic freaks and best of the best time after time.
Repping 100 kilo bench at 21 with some sport background is good but no where near unnatural levels
''100% natural'' with that smirk on his face. You ain't fooling anyone.
‘youre 17? ‘
‘yeah yeah i just look older’
There's looking older and then there's that!
dude is gonna look over 50 years old when he's 30
@@mats7973 that’s not how it works
@@Blade-cd6gh how would you know
@@Blade-cd6gh if you take a lot of steroids then yes that is how it works, it makes you eventually lose your hair and ages your skin.
This “kid” being only a year older than me is an otherworldly concept 😂
Genetics+Hard work+💉= This boy
It's stack/dosage/purity
Stop with the genetics hard work non sence. A mouse will have same results
@@wileecoyote5749 people on gear work hard aswell
Stop typing shit while you're on your couch
@@wileecoyote5749 genetics is 90% of why he looks like that
@@wileecoyote5749 if you don't have the genetics to look like this, no matter how many steroids you shove in your ass you wont look like this, thats like saying if you eat well enough everyone can be 6'5, that isn't how it works
@@wileecoyote5749 mike tyson looked like a grown man at 15, this kid looked like a kid at 15, hes clearly on steroids its obvious, his genetics r subpar hes just very receptive to usage cause hes young.
this is insane + congrats for the 900k ❤️❤️❤️
17 years old, 2 year training and he has already the benchpress worldrecord? 🧐 I dont know rick...
World record for a 17 year old lol not overall🤣
@@azza4433 i know: 17 years old"," 2 years.....
@@mariovillegasarevalo3668 and they keep saying "genetics"
I’m 24 and I’m really proud of my 160kg bench press … I’m going nuts seeing this kid bench press 180kg like nothing … and he could have done 190 most likely…
I’m 110KG… low fat and I’ve been training since I was 14
This is just crazy generics with some nice dose of Vitamin S 🙄
im 32, started steroids at 20 been of for 5 years. it wasnt worth it. this guy will regret later
He’s just genetically gifted
He is on roids 100% and also not that small amount of them, idk about his genetics but he wont look even close to that if he was natural @@danielblom2189
your videos are top. Unique in the fitness commnuity. Is like a short film. You are awesome
Love comments like this. Thanks bro 👊🏻
love the vid. "intruged" is killing me tho
Joe I have been watching your videos for a long time mate your the best TH-cam ever, you inspired me to start lifting someday I would like to meet you. cheers mate!
Do you bench 190 kg at 15 yo and lifting for 3 months? 👍
he's not natural but it's insanely impressive
He is
@@samimansour4280 stop telling yourself that he's not 😐
@@samimansour4280 cmon bro ofc he’s not
He’s natural but it’s your opinion
@@coolgainz9307 there's no way in hell he's natural
Amazing, cant believe you are natural! Keep up the hard work ,both of u!
There's a chance he is not natty. you would never know unless he got a random blood test which would probs not happen. Don't just take anyone's word for it because someone can say they don't use PEDs, bit they do. Keep an open mind, Happy lifting king 👑👑
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If you think he's natural then i dunno what to say to you
@@Arif_Raziq give the dude a break, he understands now ahahah
Imagine how's he's gonna look at 21 a freaking Mr. Olympia Monster 👑💯
he will look like 60 yo and no hair
And imagine how he’s gonna look at 45, 6 feet under the ground
@Tom how did Arnold survive? Did he drop the peds early or something?
@@troll2637 it's luck pretty much, arnold is blessed he didnt drop dead from a heart attack by now
@@troll2637 I think it was because back in the day they used less potent drugs and he may have stopped early
100% natural- best joke I heard this year so far :)
Joe all your fans know zero about steds training but say this guy natural is a shame another dope on fitness well done
He's definitely on steroids, arnold at 17 had been training for around the same amount of time and was nowhere near this guys size, and I thinks everyone agrees Arnold has god tier genetics
off steroids and on steroids are completely different people react to peds different however this guy is definitely not natural
theres always someone in the world who can do double what you do without trying
Joe you’re sick but every single video you post a picture and say “this was me back then”
Give it a rest 😂
It's just possible because he works hard and wants it and you can tell he's natural as well
No matter what, but my brain can't perceive that he's 17
17*
The truth is that people don't openly admit to using illegal substances
Have you heard of benjamin macintyre? The guy is 16 deadlifting 300kg, squatting 230 and benching 160
I was thinking of mentioning him too, but he actually trains for strength and has a coach, plus actually tested
That guy is def on gear
big diff between 160 and 190
@@bumerlad2170 He is 16 though plus comp pauses
When he said that hes been training for only 2 years i was like. NAH HES ON JUICE
Even if he train from 12 its still obvious
Although we’re probably all thinking the same thing either way with or without roids his physique is still impressive
Yooooo it’s not just Genetics… Nutrition, training, intensity of training, sleep/recovery & stress management/wellness 💪🏽
and juice
If anyone thinks he’s natural they clearly don’t understand how muscles in the human body work🤣🤣it is physically impossible to go from that skinny to that elite in 2 years… PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE… I’m not saying it’s not amazing coz it absolutely is, but it’s not natural
This is should be a reminder to everyone that some ppl are built different
Are you sure he’s 17… I’m 15 and I’m not 1/8 of his size DAMNN
You need to learn how to train properly
@@SK-pp3rq Ahh the toxic kid is everywhere. Take your test and lie that youre nattie
I'm 15 and a 1/3 of his size😂😂
@@SK-pp3rq what's your Instagram I wanna get a pic of you
I'm 23 and I'm 1/2 of his size 😂
bro how does joes arms go from looking like that in 3:41 to looking like that in the car at 3:52
Lighting and pump does wonders
He has great genetics fs but he’s on gear, I made up my mind after he said he’s been training for two years lol
"I'm a 100 % Natural " Sure buddy so is Mike Duck Egg Olympia Tren O Hearn😂
That's steroidsly impressive physique
Im just waiting for Coach Greg's rant about why this guy is not natural tbh
@@oabd19 🤣
Not 17, He's 22 years old.
Sorry to say this but this is impossible, he's enhanced
Feel like people making themselves feel better saying he isn’t natural but i truly believe he is in fact natural
Nah mate that isn’t genetics that’s straight up roids 😭
Even with roids his genetics are very good
@@cheyennegutierrez4971 true but by no means is that achievable in under 2 years natty😭
He’s taking gym very serious 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I remember the first time I pushed 100kg at about 22 and I thought I was a big man 😂
you weren't on 17 different anabolic compounds like the lad in the video is on though i assume
The difference between my car and this kid is that my car can reach 30 and he won't.
In my gym there’s a 14 year old who can squat 200kg and bench 120kg.
Wow i really am a cripple 17 and bench 60kg 😂
capppppppp, his muscles aint even developed
bro what do they be feeding these kids. Shits crazy
And here I am 14 thinking my 86kg bench and 143kg squat was good
@edi that’s still really impressive. I’m 16 and still haven’t reached those numbers
Everyone is saying he can’t be natural, but I think he is, I went from 50kg bench to 110kg fully natural with an awful diet, 5ft 11 70kg bw. Genetics are sometimes more powerful than the strongest PEDS
@@regulus7754 yeah but look how he’s built
i think its possible (strength wise) only beqause i can relate to myself i only train for 2 years and my bench is 140kg deadlift 210kg squat 160kg but im only 75kg. and with corona the gyms where closed so lets say im training for 1,5 years then with consistency. i think if you take 2 years what he has, eat more then what i did beqause some months just sucked with eating and have (best) genetics then i think this is possible.
thats crazy, tbf im similar myself and i dont eat much at all my first max was like 90+ kg also solie used to train chest 3 x a week so maybe
It really isn’t. Even some ppl with good genetics have to at least have on spot technique (he himself doesn’t have that) so more than likely he’s just doing light gear
No it’s actually not at all.
Sure I bench 200kg at 45kg bw and have been training 4 months too so it possible🤣
Yeah my guy sollie active always
He isnt natural, obviously. I respect the physique but not the man carrying it. If you're going to be flexing on social media etc, giving people false hope, telling ure natural when you clearly arent, saying ure doing it "just because u like weight lifting" then you're straight up lying and I cant and wont respect you.
You dont grow this in under 2 years, not even if you're genetically gifted. That's 1 way of easily telling hes lying, also when Joe asks him, any human thats able to read another human can tell hes lying. I'll just explain briefly: hes putting his hands together to self-sooth himself (calm himself down), making more body gestures, moving his head, hands etc..., avoiding eye contact with Joe unlike he did prior to the question.
Now for the more scientific part of this, all muscles have androgen receptors. They're types of nuclear receptors in your muscle cells that are activated by the binding of androgenic hormones. Male deltoids (shoulders) and trapezoids (Traps, muscles between neck and shoulder) have a higher number of androgen receptors than other muscles, hence them growing bigger in people who use steroids, like this guy.
You also showed his dad, who clearly is into fitness aswell, the chances of them both being genetically gifted are pretty much 0. But the chances of his dad having used steroids and providing his son with them are way way higher.
He is juiced that's obvious; however, what is really disgusting about the situation is joe bringing this guy on his Chanel just because he is running out of ideas. He is promoting this bullshit; therefore, helping this kid give body dysmorphia to actual young natural bodybuilders what a shame
@@julienjreissati5022 So what Joe can do what he wants and if you don’t like that just leave
Simple as that
@@coolgainz9307 Hey bro the thing is he could have ended it with the guy's response no problem there but he decided to try to convince us that he is natural look at his dad lol his dad is smaller than him lmao makes no sense
@@julienjreissati5022 fair point
I'm sure Joe knows he isn't natural but still extremely impressive none the less
Even a blind man can see he’s not natty😂, but still crazy impressive!!🔥
That was some good content brother 👍
My brother started training hard at 15 years old, and by the time two and a half years had passed - he was quite close to this. And he really have not used any toxic stuff for the gains. He just got my dads genetics, ate a shit ton and prioritized.
I look in the comment-section and im wowed over how little many believe in genetics, hard work and food.
I will ofc get hate for this, but in two years with those gains, we cannot think that there isnt a SLIGHTEST chance that it is pure, even though the doubt is big of course.
I hope at least someone can see this, and that our human genetics can be real impressive, and so on.
(And when you go on gaindrugs, your muscles doesnt build the same, so a big big with drugs can be much weaker than a small guy that doesn't take the drugs. This guy has the pure power one usually get from real training. )
No,i believe him and you,ig some people just don’t want to accept they got bad genetics and try to say “gears” cause i’ve been training for 3 months and my friend who been training for 2 years are FLABBERGASTED they say i look like em when they’re 1 year into lifting.It is crazy but some people are blessed and i’m happy to be one of em!plus i’m black so ig thats why
the sentence:"YOU STILL GOT 180" doesn't make any sense 🤣
Bro is juiced to the gills disappointed that you promote this Joe.
Bro you needa come to Nz there’s 15 yr olds bigger than him
No
I'd respect him. A hell. Lot more of he said not natty instead of treating us like gullible helmets
Perhaps he knows that we know he is not natural but he wont claim he is natural because he is 17 and probably still living with his parents
@@yol3209 bruh have you seen the kid, he tucks his mum and dad into bed at night
That is insane. His transformation though!
I wish Joe would've left out the natural stuff, clearly he's not natural but ofc at 17 his parents and family wouldn't be happy if he told everyone.
He’s the biggest 17 year old in the UK but nowhere close in the US
You look like this at 17 by abusing steroids at a young age
mad ur nearly at 1 milly, started watching you at 50k
he's not natural but still to reach this level you need top genetics plus eating a lot
This kid is so strong it's insaneeeee, but the world record attempt wouldn't count sadly as his arse lifted up and he didn't pause... BUT STILL INSANELY STRONG, I can't even deadlift what he benched
It’s so crazy that sully is the same age as me and he’s bigger than me and been training for 2 years while I started training 3-4 years natural but I can tell sully has insane genetics to put on a lot of muscle and 100% not natural
No way hes natural
@@stijnlepoeter952 That’s my personal opinion but we don’t know if he’s natural or not
@@coolgainz9307 its pretty much impossible for him to be natural. even for being om steriods it is insane to get these results in 2 years. He is on steriods its a fact.
@@stijnlepoeter952 Ok you got me I was just trolling he’s obviously not natural lemme edit my comment
He is 17 years old. There is no way anybody his age would publicly admit being on gear.
There are plenty of other people his age on gear, so why would you believe that a natty is capable of setting world records when his competition is on the 🧃
Edit: Also, looking at his Instagram, he made 4 years progress in less than a year. He could definitely be natural right now but he was for sure on something during the first year of lifting.
Wow, truly impressive. Hey, I have a question for you. The plates you use at home, are they metric or pounds? I live in the US (obviously) and the one time I went to Australia and hit the gym, I was flummoxed by the free weights - everything was different! It took a lot of experimenting to come close to dumbbells and barbells for my routine. I'm sure the same for you if you visit America.
Let me see a blood test 💉😉 there is no chance he’s natural but still very very impressive still a good genetic….people’s should be honest about Ped’s use..15yo kids gonna believe it’s achievable naturally…sad reality of the fitness industry 😔
Joe keep up the good work greeting from Quebec,Canada 🇨🇦
i dont think he can say he takes stuff because he's underage
Vadim from Germany enters the chat😅😅✌️ He’s 16 and lifts 160 and is an absolute monster
Gains
Joe it doesn't Matter what you looks like compare to other but that still make you 99% Better than the rest of your Average Joes in the gym
Had a classmate who hit a 410lb bench in high school, and was natural. Honestly don’t see anything about this guy’s physique that pops out to say he’s juiced at all.
17 years of prison
Alot of people saying his not natural, although I'm not saying his natural or not, but I don't like people labeling something without evidence. Don't matter how it looks.
So y’all know, his strength and physical transformation are impossible naturally, especially in under 2 years. He’s on gear for sure, before you start banging out push-ups in your bedroom thinking this is possible
This dude is huge my friend!
Not even normal!
180kg at 17 is wild af
My man’s eating his gcse revision books for lunch
So it’s obvious that he’s not natural, but it’s still impressive af ngl