@@jaydavidrn82I know this isn’t the fun conspiracy answer you wanna hear, but it’s far more likely that you’re getting random matchups and you notice it more when you get the matchup you especially don’t want.
@@ShengFinkthat is probably true but I noticed that I get certain matchups way more in standard based on what deck I’m playing. Brawl is intentionally set up that way so it wouldn’t surprise me if other formats have a similar matchmaking set up
@@jareddodd5291 B01 unranked queue in particular, but yeah I've seen this often enough to think it's not coincidence. But it is random whether or not the regular match-ups are bad match-ups for whichever brew you're using (some of mine get almost mirror matches which can be entertaining and informative)
Scrollshift is pretty nice if you're looking for some stuff lower on the curve. If you hit it while going off, you just get free card draw, flicker your dino and keep on discovering. It's even in colors. I like scrollshift because if you really wanted to, you can run some prototype creatures who can be cast for cheap, then flickered into the big form. Nice plan B and early game, without ruining your discovery plan.
Honestly I don't even think this decks is suuuper powerful. I mean first of all, he lost to some other quite powerful decks (and there are other decks that are good against this match up, just think early life gain). Secondly, the deck is really dependent on not drawing its key card, which brings quite a bit of variance. And in case then in blue there could be bounce spells, the blue march and even counters if the cavern is not out. So yeah I'd say even if the deck is kind of bonkers, I wouldn't say it's definitively unbalanced.
@@OremmGames I wasn't talking about that person, I was talking about myself. I want to make a Simic Control deck (not in Standard nor in Arena), but every time I try, I always end up with Nissa, Gargaroth, and Krasis. I have some Control elements, but considering how the decks end up, they're always Ramp with some counters.
Modern Explorers is my local game-shop! I hope some day I'll get to meet you!!!! I was so mad I missed out when you were in town recently. My friend gave me one of your signed shark creature tokens and it's my pride and joy. lol I learned how to play Magic truthfully from you and my wife. I learned the strategies here and then put things into play IRL.
This deck is back! And it doesn't need that 5 mana enchantment to work with the OTK with granting the 1/0 and haste, and on top of that, the curve just got even easier to transition into the OTK with the new mythic two drop, I remember like idk a few months now when this was between cracked and a jank deck. It just crossed the line to new levels of gross lol this set man.
25:38 I’m a bit bummed that you resigned that game. Would have liked to have seen how it played out in the end game. Especially since you have sweepers and Etali.
I have Lost count of how many combos this set has created. Fun Fact: Discover Is still a deck in Alchemy even after the Appraiser Nerf. Funnier Fact: that combo uses Dollmaker on Quintorious. Dollmaker makes an ARTIFACT token, which can then be copied with Duplication. Yeah, fun.
Friday and no CGB playing a different game? Promises have been broken. Bridges have been burnt. We shall rise and riot! (Nice to still have a daily vid, keep going CGB! But the tease of a new game is evil!! Really curious to see what it'll be :) )
25:40 you do have an out; get etali and 10 mana and see if they can beat blightsteel colossus alternatively, Etali can do some messed up stuff on its own
Yeee Haw! Git along little dino! Edit: 😮 How dare you "Your go" Malone... Maloniacs! Assemble! 😂 More importantly, why haven't you shown his most played mono black deck yet? (Damn, that was a question...)
Great, so this is basically the existing Carnosaur Combo except instead of rolling RNG to see if you get lethal hasty carnosaurs with 8 clones in the deck, you only need to run 4 'clones' and its a deterministic kill every time (unless you somehow drew too many). Good lord, this deck was already carrying me in mythic and now its far better
To be fair, a six mana 1 card kill combo is great right, but for it to be broken it would need to be able to win into interaction, which this can't, it also has like liability issues such as drawing copies of the molten clone before turn 6 and not being able to push enough damage through blockers. I'm not saying that it's bad though, just that it's no tibalts trickery or t3 kill with geological appraiser.
I guess I might be failing to see how that's relevant to my statement, I was responding to the title stating that this was breaking the format, when I believe it's probably not even making a small dent in it.
I know they have been saying for a while now they were aware green was weak and needed help, but this might be a bit much. The topend is too big and has too much recursion.
The other version of this deck currently running around standard is way better. You get like 9 copies with haste, and they all stick around instead of dying at end of turn.
Question would you be willing to make a deck that’s green blue white and red for standard ? Or one that’s blue white red and black please I have been trying to come up with one of each to build
CGB forgetting he has a 7/7 Armadillo that can freely block the 6/6 Dino, watching this live I didn’t realize it myself but on second look that Simic game was winnable
Speaking of the shuffler, I mulliganed today and got 6 out of 7 of the same cards. I even had a pair. I should have bought a lottery ticket today. That or the shuffler is rigged. I also had a game where I drew a lands 6 times in a row. Coincidence I was in a win streak both time that happened? 🧐
Not really sure how a deck that performed ok in early-access, folds to instant removal / counterspell / not drawing Carni / drawing Moltens breaks Standard. Maybe to for the Bo1-brained folk I guess?
Why does Quintorius sound like a 15 year old kid? Big ol' elephant scholar dude... he should sound like Gandalf mixed with Kratos with a deep slow rumbley voice
Discover is already one of the best things you can do, nearly impossible to beat without counterspells (or specific cards like Thrull). This... I don't even know what to say about this. How does a non-blue midrange deck compete with this?
Ok ok, I can't watch past the deck list without commenting - what's breaking this is early land ramp and/or the triomes fixing mana too easily and turning on domain fully by turn 2. I.e same as nearly everything else you might call broken in Standard currently. Although yeah, good point about the issue with cascade/discover and alternative cost cards in their various forms, they've done very poorly handling that in many formats recently.
Yo! This is the voice of Quintorius! Stoked you’re having fun wrecking people with his card lol
Pog \o/
lol
Ah the peak magic experience, ramp ramp ramp ramp ramp win the game in a single turn or die ramping. Just as garfield intended
Played me like a goshdarn fiddle......😂
Will that game make it into one of your vids? I really want to see your real time reaction to the dino bomb.
hey Malone!
In the words of SSB Minus. "If it's not broken, then break it until it's fixed."
23:55 "This card is like the perfect 'anti-my deck' right now!"
Welcome to the MTG:A matchmaker!
right? I swear if I win too many thier AI figures out what works against me and I get it 50 % of the time
@@jaydavidrn82I know this isn’t the fun conspiracy answer you wanna hear, but it’s far more likely that you’re getting random matchups and you notice it more when you get the matchup you especially don’t want.
@@ShengFinkthat is probably true but I noticed that I get certain matchups way more in standard based on what deck I’m playing. Brawl is intentionally set up that way so it wouldn’t surprise me if other formats have a similar matchmaking set up
@@jareddodd5291 B01 unranked queue in particular, but yeah I've seen this often enough to think it's not coincidence. But it is random whether or not the regular match-ups are bad match-ups for whichever brew you're using (some of mine get almost mirror matches which can be entertaining and informative)
@@ShengFink Lol this aged poorly in spite of the brawl leaks
Shoutout to Kieran Ragen for finally giving Quintorius a voice!
I honestly would have imagined him having a much deeper voice... more fitting to the heavy animal that an elephant actually is ^^
I'm so happy people noticed! I was so bummed when LCI released and the card had no voiceover :(
@@TheEmperorAs i agree, but given Quint is still young for a Loxodon, I can see why WOTC made the choice they did.
Nah, the voice is so high and squeaky, it was better when he was menacingly silent... Can't take him seriously with the new miscast voice.
Glad skeletons finally have support. As an archetype the tribal support has always been a little bare bones.
Surprised more people aren't ribbing you for that terrible pun.
badum-tssss
Wait, this guy who is breaking standard was the guy who played Mesa Falcon at the pro tour?
Ahhh wizards......... finding ways to make more honest magic
I've played enough honest magic, give me insanity
Scrollshift is pretty nice if you're looking for some stuff lower on the curve.
If you hit it while going off, you just get free card draw, flicker your dino and keep on discovering. It's even in colors.
I like scrollshift because if you really wanted to, you can run some prototype creatures who can be cast for cheap, then flickered into the big form. Nice plan B and early game, without ruining your discovery plan.
I am convinced there is at least one actual monkey on the balance team in MTGA!
and his favorite color is 'mythic orange'... he colored a full aftermath set with it
and lets be honest, he is the only one there making sensible decisions
Honestly I don't even think this decks is suuuper powerful. I mean first of all, he lost to some other quite powerful decks (and there are other decks that are good against this match up, just think early life gain). Secondly, the deck is really dependent on not drawing its key card, which brings quite a bit of variance. And in case then in blue there could be bounce spells, the blue march and even counters if the cavern is not out. So yeah I'd say even if the deck is kind of bonkers, I wouldn't say it's definitively unbalanced.
Still it's basically a one card combo which never bodes well and this is the first quick draft of the deck in a pre release event
Of course there is. It's Ragavan.
Everything in Big Score is Mythic, even stuff that definitely shouldn't be.
*Apologizes to filipa before game starts*
*Gets absolutely destroyed*
😂😂
That match against Simic was so damn funny! I love you, Simic!!
I wish I knew how to make a Simic Control deck that's not secretly ramp. :c
By making one that's openly ramp...
@@OremmGames I wasn't talking about that person, I was talking about myself. I want to make a Simic Control deck (not in Standard nor in Arena), but every time I try, I always end up with Nissa, Gargaroth, and Krasis. I have some Control elements, but considering how the decks end up, they're always Ramp with some counters.
Omg that combo @10 min… Jesus… Malone must have had his eyes pop out of his head LOL😂😂😂
This is some pure insanity right here. Also, I'm glad that Quintorius Kand has FINALLY been given a voice. 🤘🎃
RIGHT? It took me a second to notice it was him talking, since he didn't have voice lines before. So happy for him.
Modern Explorers is my local game-shop! I hope some day I'll get to meet you!!!! I was so mad I missed out when you were in town recently. My friend gave me one of your signed shark creature tokens and it's my pride and joy. lol
I learned how to play Magic truthfully from you and my wife. I learned the strategies here and then put things into play IRL.
"That's going to be an expensive pizza" XD
oh no, we'll all be seeing this soon
See mesa falcon guy, i like
Me: Voja? F*ck yeah, let's goooo
CJB: Vanquish?
Also me: NOOOO! 😂
This deck is back! And it doesn't need that 5 mana enchantment to work with the OTK with granting the 1/0 and haste, and on top of that, the curve just got even easier to transition into the OTK with the new mythic two drop, I remember like idk a few months now when this was between cracked and a jank deck. It just crossed the line to new levels of gross lol this set man.
EVERYONE GET IN HERE!!!
EVERYONE GET IN HERE!!
EVERYONE GET IN HERE!!!
EVERYONE GET IN HERE!
25:38 I’m a bit bummed that you resigned that game. Would have liked to have seen how it played out in the end game. Especially since you have sweepers and Etali.
I'm so happy that this expansion is bringing dino tribal a new strong mythic. Never expected it, but Vaultborn Tyrant delivers
In the words of Kriparian. "Welcome to thunder junction"
Its cool watching you stomp Malone. Him and Sonio are the other two content creators i watch besides CGB and they both are great players
From the moment Railway Brawler and Vaultborn Tyrant were revealed for OTJ I knew they're going to be in my dino deck.
They probably thought "oh, it's okay, there is the doorkeeper thrull to balance it" 😛
The this is stantard intro has so much meme potential its unreal
I have Lost count of how many combos this set has created.
Fun Fact: Discover Is still a deck in Alchemy even after the Appraiser Nerf.
Funnier Fact: that combo uses Dollmaker on Quintorious. Dollmaker makes an ARTIFACT token, which can then be copied with Duplication.
Yeah, fun.
Friday and no CGB playing a different game? Promises have been broken. Bridges have been burnt. We shall rise and riot! (Nice to still have a daily vid, keep going CGB! But the tease of a new game is evil!! Really curious to see what it'll be :) )
Ha ha the very first mono red player, playing his toilet magic probably crapped his pants when he saw those five Dino’s charging at him out of nowhere
"let's make standard 3 years long, what's the worst that can happen?"
Quint just getting a voice now shows how fu the situation at wotc office is now. Product release and scheduling is out of control.
Honestly I'm just happy it happened at all.
25:40
you do have an out; get etali and 10 mana and see if they can beat blightsteel colossus
alternatively, Etali can do some messed up stuff on its own
Dude forgot he had a giant Armadillo in his hand
I’m 4 minutes in and I’m so excited thank you CGB!!!!
CGB soungs like a kid on Christmas whose playing with all his new toys
Yeee Haw! Git along little dino!
Edit: 😮 How dare you "Your go" Malone... Maloniacs! Assemble! 😂 More importantly, why haven't you shown his most played mono black deck yet? (Damn, that was a question...)
Great, so this is basically the existing Carnosaur Combo except instead of rolling RNG to see if you get lethal hasty carnosaurs with 8 clones in the deck, you only need to run 4 'clones' and its a deterministic kill every time (unless you somehow drew too many). Good lord, this deck was already carrying me in mythic and now its far better
Matches Malone has to buy you a steak dinner, and not just anywhere, it has to be a nice place, like MENDYS! 😁
I both hate and love how quickly humans can break things
Wouldnt running a copy or 2 of into the fire to help shuffle back in the duplication be good enough?
Always watch to the end cause I watch them while I eat lol
I heard Mesa Falcon is really good with Blood Moon.
time to sideboard surgical extraction in every deck
Would doorkeeper thrull stop the discover from proccing?
Yes
I am gonna try to find Malone’s reaction to that dino bomb.
To be fair, a six mana 1 card kill combo is great right, but for it to be broken it would need to be able to win into interaction, which this can't, it also has like liability issues such as drawing copies of the molten clone before turn 6 and not being able to push enough damage through blockers. I'm not saying that it's bad though, just that it's no tibalts trickery or t3 kill with geological appraiser.
i think its more about the spirit of the format. Standard is not the place where little timmy should be expected to look out for one card OTK's.
I guess I might be failing to see how that's relevant to my statement, I was responding to the title stating that this was breaking the format, when I believe it's probably not even making a small dent in it.
Thanks CGB
Hey Dan, I love the discover deck.
See you in Amsterdam, CGB
Quintorius voice lines moment
feels like a standard version of Quintorius combo lol
MTG is just rock paper scissors with extra steps
I know they have been saying for a while now they were aware green was weak and needed help, but this might be a bit much. The topend is too big and has too much recursion.
The other version of this deck currently running around standard is way better. You get like 9 copies with haste, and they all stick around instead of dying at end of turn.
Question would you be willing to make a deck that’s green blue white and red for standard ? Or one that’s blue white red and black please I have been trying to come up with one of each to build
CGB is why when someone has more than 4-5 mana and hasn’t cast anything important yet, I start profusely sweating. 😂
CGB forgetting he has a 7/7 Armadillo that can freely block the 6/6 Dino, watching this live I didn’t realize it myself but on second look that Simic game was winnable
Was going to say this myself lol
CGB, would you be willing to do Outlaw tribal?
Hey, Honest Rutstein, have you read your flavor text? You'll have to do a brawl video soon. ❤
An idea for future content.
Do a video that goes through all the new cards?
Why didn't u use visage bandit in the deck?
Speaking of the shuffler, I mulliganed today and got 6 out of 7 of the same cards. I even had a pair. I should have bought a lottery ticket today. That or the shuffler is rigged. I also had a game where I drew a lands 6 times in a row. Coincidence I was in a win streak both time that happened? 🧐
jep, just coincidence.
Wasn't the Dino game a perfect example of why atali is in the deck in the first place? Low odds but some outs.
That skeleton deck is nasty
OK trust and go with me on this;
Can you do your next deck and coverage in a James Woods impersonation?
My Filipa beat you bruh xD
Not really sure how a deck that performed ok in early-access, folds to instant removal / counterspell / not drawing Carni / drawing Moltens breaks Standard. Maybe to for the Bo1-brained folk I guess?
Seems like a different way to go about the blue clone cards to copy carnosaur.
Can this deck even lose? Looks unbeatable
Go Filipa go!!
Love it!
Why does Quintorius sound like a 15 year old kid? Big ol' elephant scholar dude... he should sound like Gandalf mixed with Kratos with a deep slow rumbley voice
I mean tbf he's pretty much a kid
the character is literally from the harry potter plane and supposed to be a kid xD Guy is not big *or* old for a loxodon.
Did wizards get rid of the vip tags for usernames now?
Nice deck
Ok this decks incredible lol
Discover is already one of the best things you can do, nearly impossible to beat without counterspells (or specific cards like Thrull).
This... I don't even know what to say about this. How does a non-blue midrange deck compete with this?
Use removal?
Yeah, there are definitely interactive spells that can stop it, like go for the throat or the new bird that taxes exile.
Still a pain in the ass.
10:41 wait quintorius now has voice lines?
Wait can we discorver into jace with etalis favor? On turn 3😅
No. Discover still casts, sadly.
This is stupid, definitely gonna make this
Ok ok, I can't watch past the deck list without commenting - what's breaking this is early land ramp and/or the triomes fixing mana too easily and turning on domain fully by turn 2. I.e same as nearly everything else you might call broken in Standard currently.
Although yeah, good point about the issue with cascade/discover and alternative cost cards in their various forms, they've done very poorly handling that in many formats recently.
Seems balanced
Winota…is that you??
This deck is a 5/10 at max boxt really strong but ok for a video
Oh man, wizards, please don’t take away This cool thing now that CGB has exploited it
Make that Dino legendary?
I have some questions
Ffs when will they learn that mana cheat + cheap duplicate cards = trouble?
Can someone explain why fallout is legal in standard but lord of the rings not?
Fallout is not legal in standard, tho. No cards in this video are from the Fallout set.
Carnosaur Twin!
Love
im not seeing Molten Duplication in arena
If I lost to this I would be so mad lol
I hope you enjoyed your pizza 😅😅😅
Only one new card in an early access deck? Sad pandas.
I feel like you're missing the point of what's going on here, friend
Nissa control and or white life gain decks are very prominent and won’t die in one turn to this I guess… so balanced and fair…
QUINT VOICE YEAAAAAAHHHHHH