Initially, I was thinking of the R7 with the RF100-400, but it looks like you proved the R10 is good enough and you can really save the money! Nice shots. So inspiring!
Another excellent video Duade, you prove time and time again it's not all about the gear, yes we know higher priced cameras and lenses can do certain things better, this is what you pay for, but you can still take excellent photos and most of all have fun with more affordable gear.
Great video as always, thanks for the great moments and pictures! The R10 + RF100-400 combo looks like a great starting point for anyone starting out with wildlife photography on a budget. It's so small that they won't get tired of the hobby by carrying it around, and can get great results with that animal eye AF which is especially useful if you're just starting out, it's probably a lot easier to get great pictures from the get go than any camera that doesn't have that feature. Getting that combo also lands you with great upgrade paths options for the future. In its price range it could be the best animal eye AF on the market, so a very good value proposition, but I'll be waiting for your review before making any recommendations! I appreciate you sharing your point of view having tried all the different R cameras. It seems the R7/10 were hyped up at launch to have the same AF performance as the R3, and it looks like we're starting to discover it was probably too good to be true. They're good cameras but maybe we set our expectations a bit too high on them. The argument that the R7 isn't a true modern flagship APSc like the 7D2 was at its time is getting more and more true it seems. Thank you for giving us that reality check! Your experience with the superb fairy wren with the Sigma at close range looks exactly like some of the issues I've noticed in my testing. With accel/deccel not set at -2 the pulsing bug can be so intense that it can completely lose focus out of seemingly nowhere, and your recording of the viewfinder showcased it perfectly. Accel/deccel to -2 is the main setting that helped at least prevent the tracking to not go completely off. Before anyone goes out to try the settings listed in the description, you should know that I can't confirm for sure that the values for +2 sensitivity and slowest AF are truly optimal and I'm still testing those two. Interesting to note is that I recall Jan Wegener recommending to set both accel/deccel AND sensitivity to -2 with his RF100-500 to help the R7 keep the tracking sticking to birds. On perfectly still dummy subjects on a tripod and house sparrows at a feeder high sensitivity seemed to help a little bit with the pulsing (definitely not as much as Accel/deccel), but there might be trade offs to those settings in harder, in the field scenarios. Maybe standard AF speed and something like sensitivity at 0 will turn out to be a better middle ground. In my testing, with sensitivity at -2 the tracking blue box seemed to lag behind the house sparrows as they were moving and jumping around, while at +2 they were more locked on them. On dummy subjects at close range in pulsing tests, it seemed as though the tracking would lock back onto focus quicker with sensitivity at +2, making the pulses slightly shorter, but it had no effect on the frequency or intensity of the pulses. As for AF speeds using the dock, once the tracking locked into a subject, the slowest speed seems fast enough to keep track of even fast moving subjects and in a smoother way, and I've used it for BIF on cormorants with great success. But there definitely is a trade off in initial acquisition speed. Going from infinity to near and vice versa is noticeably slower, so perhaps standard speed will turn out to be a better middle ground. Just wanted to give a bit more info to you Duade until you have the chance to try it for yourself, hopefully this and the info I gave already will give you a good point to get started with your own testing. I'm just glad I could get the conversation started and I think you have much more experience than me so I will trust your judgement after you've had a go at trying out the different settings. Can't wait for the next feature of our friend Gary 😉 Cheers! PS: This might sound like a weird question, but do Australians ever get "accustomed" to seeing kangaroos in the wild, or is it the kind of animal that just gives you those chills everytime you see it? Here in Canada I find that some animals like bears and moose are just so impressive, everytime you encounter them it's like you're seeing them for the first time! I get those same vibes watching kangaroos in your vids, everytime my jaw just drops to the floor!
Thanks Simon, I agree with everything you have said and I look forward to trying these settings out myself in the future, we have rain for the next week and I have a busy week at work so the testing will have to wait. Having grown up in NZ, Kangaroos were a real highlight when I first saw them in the wild, I still love to see them and I get a buzz when I go inland and see the other main species the Red Kangaroo, we only get Eastern Grey here. There are a number of Wallabies I am still to see and plenty of other critters. So I look forward to hopefully doing some travel in the future. I would love to see a Moose or a Bear. My wife and family are all Canadian and have heard many Moose and Bear stories. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I hope you do see them one day! Wild kangaroos are on my bucket list for sure 🙂 The Rockies in the west and Gaspésie/Maritimes in the east are great nature places to visit in Canada. Ontario also has great beautiful national parks and reserves in the Great Lakes area too. Cheers mate!
As someone who is looking to start out without any experience beyond my flagship smartphone, would you still suggest the R10 + RF100-400mm ten months later, or should I spend that little bit extra for the R7?
@@SavRSx unless you plan to upgrade again down the line, I think I would go with the R7. With the R7, you're a lot more future proof. Especially if wildlife will be the main focus. If wildlife isn't the main focus of your purchase, the R10 can certainly still deliver great results. But if you get more and more into it, the ergos, small buffer and small battery will be annoying. The R7 also performs quite a bit better AF wise, which you can never have enough. Stuff like IBIS and much better video capabilities just sealed the deal for me. I've had my R7 since release and plan to keep it for many more years to come. If I had gone R10, I'd probably still be thinking about upgrading a year later. But if you were go FF anyway eventually, the R10 is a good starting point.
Hello. Je n'ai pas la seconde vidéo dont tu parles pour donner tes conclusions sur le R10. Je shoote en R7 + 100-500 RF (après avoir essayé 1 mois le Sigma 159-600 bien vite revendu). Mon épouse en R10. Je confirme que l'autofocus n'est pas aussi performant pour la mise au point initiale sur le sujet. Par contre, une fois le sujet net, il colle comme sur le R7 et ça reste net avec quelques déchets acceptables. Philippe
Me too! i naturally get up around 4-5 am so I never miss a sunrise. My wife is now getting into it, but getting her out of bed early, is not a hard as it used to be. All I have to whisper is “It’s kicking off!” She will shoot out of bed and race for her camera scrambling and asking “what do I do, what do I do?” I am usually grinning from ear to ear watching her panic and race to get set up. It brings me great joy. Lol
lovely video and beautiful images. when my sister visited Australia she brought me a mug with fairy wren picture, now its my Thursday tea mug. when ever i use it, dream of one day see all those lovely wrens and robins.
The irony that im considering these two lenses and you make a videp comparing the two. Its affordable and this video really helps me in that decision making!
My heart melts when seeing these small critters! I'd love to see one myself one day! I'm hoping 2024 will be the year I get to visit Australia... sadly, I have SO much money left to gather into a pile, before I can afford the trip I'm planning...
Thanks, I hope you get to see them when you do get down here for a visit, yes, it can be expensive to travel around this massive country. Cheers, Duade
you know, sometimes it's the smaller things/critter/animals that have soo much detail. Often we walk by them and overlook them. I have taken a few pictures of small animals/critters and the more I look, the more I see and they have so much detail and beauty.
Fantastic video. Just looked like a lot of fun as well as some cracking images. The scenery is stunning. Loved that little Antechinus running around ❤️
Looking forward to your review of R10 and 100-400 lens set up. Have same on order William be disappointed. Another good video displaying Aussie wildlife and scenery 😀👍
Thanks for the continued variety on yet another new camera body, Duade. As always, some very nice shots that were able to capture! I especially enjoyed the backlit kangaroos scrapping beyond the grass & the brown quail for something a little different. It looks like the R10 can definitely get the job done & think it will be interesting to see if the eye AF continues to be less consistent. Thanks again for all your efforts & sharing the experience. Hope your work projects will go well & provide you with more time to get out shooting soon. Have a good one, & best regards ~ Chris
I think I have figured something out for myself watching this video. I need to find someone that also likes shooting wildlife photos and go together. I do have friends that do it, but they live far from me. But I think having someone with will help me. I don't always have free time, but I can make time free. I loved this video and the pictures you took are amazing. Love them!!!! I also loved the way you pointed to the snake on the sign. Where I live we have poisonous snakes (bothrops atrox) on our yard every so often.
Last year I joined a local camera club. Some of the members are also into wildlife photography, and they occasionally have walkabouts. It's great to join up with like minded people. The is so much pooled local knowledge about where to go and how to find the wildlife.
@@Andy_Thomas so I live in Suriname South America, a country many people have never heard of. I have friends who love wildlife photography but we live to far a apart to get together frequently. So I might have to find someone closer so I can get together more frequently.
@@Duade I am someone who learns while watching people do things. I just can't pick up some book on photography and read it and become a pro. I need to do and see at the same time. I may be kind of slow, and the thing with photography, there are so many things that have to become second nature to me that I do need to practice a lot and I have seen myself grow in the almost 7years since I bought my first DSLR. Some of my first pictures I was proud of, I don't even want to look at now because I have learned so much more and my standard of quality keeps going up.
Just got my R10 paired with Sigma 150-600. Couldnt be happier! I’ve learned so much from your channel! Thank you so much for doing this sir!🙏 Im a composer and pianist by profession, but have always dreamed of doing something visual to give balance to music. I LOVE the outdoors (I live beside one of the biggest wilderness areas of south Finland, so lots of wildlife here) so nature photography was something I I always dreamed of doing, but it just felt kind of intimidating. Your channel and your engouraging, down to earth style, has helped me immensely. Now Im hooked😅Just love it! Thank you and cheers from the village Fiskars, Finland!
It looks like it was a fantastic morning! The R10 looks like one heck of an upgrade to an M50. Even if the autofocus isn't on par with the R7, I'd bet it's an upgrade to what I'm used to. I was so focused on the R7 I never even considered this one.
Hi Mark, the R7 is a step up and worth the extra money IMO, the R10 is good but it is tiny and has more rolling shutter, worse AF, small EVF. But to be expected at that price point. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I agree completely about the R7 vs 10. From the perspective of an M50 user, I would think the 10 would probably be an ok upgrade. The 7 would be a huge upgrade.
Great video with some amazing shots mate. I guess in this price point, it's a great little camera. Not easy to find other cameras with the same specks for this price. Have a great week. Cheers, Bjoern.
Another great video Duade. I managed to spend two nights at Lake Wollumboola got some nice shots so thanks again for the heads up. Winton Wetlands looks great too :)
@@Duade dont laugh about it :D at sundown or sunrise, its totally viable, since there isnt much heat distortion. You just need some distance to the horizon.. like... a LOT Im always giggling when an opportunity presents itself to take one of those shots, just like you did. So: welcome to the club
Another awesome video Duade! I often find myself struggling with bird images with a backlit sunrise or sunset. In this video, I really enjoyed your commentary about the landscape and just "being out there". Even a "normal" outing for you is extremely interesting for a person like me in Southern California. I went to Australia about15 years ago and everything about it was spectacular for a biologist such as myself. Thanks for sharing these videos!
It is my pleasure, it was a fun morning out for sure, yes I bet Australia is very interesting to those with a science and history background. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, what a thrill as usual to watch your videos, I can feel the genuine devotion for the local wildlife. On the technical aspect, owning a R10 + RF100-400 to start some wildlife photography, i would hesitate to add an 1.4x extender to this zoom which is already as dim as F8 wide open at 400mm ! It is a bit too much for the current AF technology, and i bet it would have been the same for an R7 which is no different in its AF implementation, the cost of the R10 was not cut on that aspect: same processor and AF software, same principle of dual pixels spread on an APS-C-sized sensor.
Thanks, yes, it was fun for sure, it is interesting re the converter and no doubt does impact AF. Canon do seem to be releasing slower lenses so I would hope these cameras can AF well with them. Cheers, Duade
Great you summarized Simon Thibodeau's comments on that Sigma lens as well, Duade. Valued info for anyone using that combo - well done to you both Also noticed more of the Sigma shots you shared were shot @ 6.3 this time. End results still appeared quite nice.
The eye of the Superb Fairy Wren male are not contrasting to the face, so how should the eye tracking find the eyes? After your videos I bought an R10 and a Canon 100-400 lens and I am happy with that!
Hans, perhaps I am asking too much of the eye tracking, I think the issue for me is the R5/R6 eye tracking works much better and sticks to the subject which has me slightly confused with the R7/R10 eye tracking. Great to hear you are enjoying your R10 and RF100-400. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, if I can borrow a statement from Olcay & edit it "You sir are the best youtube content creater", fantastic again Duade. Of all the youtube content I subscribe to, nothing compares, you certainly have the midas touch & you could do the same topic 100 times over & make it so interesting. Impatiently waiting for the next video already. Cheers mate.
Thanks for your nice R10 test in real world. I think if you have the SKILL level enough then no matter what gears you have. 😀 The landscapes are really amazing. .
G'day mate, several very nice images once again proving you point some affordable gear is a good enough entry ticket into our addictive passion ;-) Really liked how you filmed from behind the antechinus and how both of you attempted to take some shots of it. Gives an impression how these tiny creatures must feel when we approach them !
I've been practicing birding on the plethora of pigeons and guls around me with the same lens on an R7. This really is a very powerful combo, if a little heavy. I do get pulsing too, or having a hard time getting on subject. But the lens does let me to manual and the AF eventually does catch the subject. Only seems to happen between 500-600mm so far, I haven't shot under 500 except for right at 150.
Thanks for sharing your experience, it does appear to be a common experience, be sure to check out the post by Simon about how he setup is Sigma lens for better AF. Cheers, Duade "1. Pulsing appears to disappear from 7m/22ft to infinity. 2. Use Moderate OIS - (You need the dock to change this) This increases keepers as the Standard and Dynamic OIS try to keep the viewfinder steady which appears to be causing soft shots in bursts as it is trying to reset the lens. You can use moderate whilst using a tripod or monopod. 3. In AF menu set accel/deccel to -2, Tracking sensitivity +2, Switching tracked Subject to 0. 4. Using the Sigma Dock set to slowest AF setting." th-cam.com/users/postUgkxFlQsq442-swCThKUgTU1nhkGzbbqD2Xg
@@Duade I don't have access to a dock, but I literally just made those AF changes. Rain tomorrow though, so I'll have to wait another day to try it out.
I love that you you just have Cockatoos in the wild. My sister used to have one as a pet here in the US. That location is amazing! Looks like the r10 did a decent job (minus the eye tracking) even with the Sigma lens. The Kangaroo shots were pretty cool! Cheers.
While I have been a devoted Canon user for over ten years, (even longer if you count pocket cameras) I doubt I would be interested in the R10 except for possibly using it to teach someone the basics of digital photography. Definitely not a camera I would carry in my bag. Still, another fantastic video! It is amazing how you make the viewer feel as if they are right there with you in the field. Also really appreciate your genuine love of your craft. I imagine I would enjoy your review of just about any camera or gear, especially when done in the field with real life situations. So, what's next? How about a 1980's model Polaroid? Or perhaps an old Brownie camera? Seriously, doesn't really matter, just keep recording and posting! Best videos on TH-cam!
Thanks mate, yes, not a camera I would purchase myself, just too small for my hands and the R7 offers a lot more for not that much more. Glad to hear you are enjoying the videos, Cheers, Duade
Hi, thanks for the great video. The Winton area and outback in general is beautiful, we have been there a few times. I was looking at the RF100-400 mm and when I clicked on the link, it seems that it doesn't lead to an Australian retailer. Would you have a recommended Australian retailer for your camera gear? It doesn't make sense for me to order overseas. Thank you.
Hi David, it lacks a number of features of the R7 and is a budget orientated option however does provide eye tracking, fps in a very affordable and small package. I would favour the R7 as the better all around option and I am early on my testing of the R10. It is a very small camera so if you have bigger hands it is a bit awkward. I think I would advise saving the extra money for the R7 to be honest. Cheers, Duade
Have the same problem with 3rd party lenses mostly Tamron 18-400 f3.5-6.3 eye detection is very annoying, don’t have that problem with the canon RF 100-400. Thanks for the video always enjoy the Aussie wildlife, your blessed to have such diversity. Will be watching for new vids.👁👀
another great video Duade, thank you was very helpful, i was looking at the R7 but was worried about the sigma 150-600mm C which works flawlessly on my R6 i found if i turn off IBIS and OS i dont get as many pulses. could you please do a review on your ninja field monitor to camera as i am thinking of getting one for my R6 and i love your reviews thank you.
Thanks for the feedback, good to hear the Sigma is working well on the R6. The monitor basically replicates the viewfinder however does not have touchscreen ability. The Ninja can record the viewfinder or act as an external recorder, however that is not necessary if you just want an external screen. I don't really use it when not recording for TH-cam as I find the viewfinder much easier to find the subject. But if you are in a blind or setup somewhere it can be handy. Cheers, Duade
That might be the only thing I haven't tried yet. I've tried OIS on and off with the lens and didn't see any difference, but I haven't tried turning off IBIS as well. I'll give it a go when I can, thanks for the info.
Love to watch your bird trips and gear reviews. Question. I notice a difference of stickyness between the EOS R6, R7 and R10. All with the RF 100-400mm. R6 is the best. R10 the worst. Do you notice this too and does it depend on the max aperture of the lens? Thanks.
Hi @Duade ! Thank you for the content. Duade, have you observed in the R10 the same inconsistent focus you observed with R7 for high speed bursts in low contrast situations? Thank you!
I am tempted to buy Canon R10 and RF 100-400mm. Would it be better to buy this combo now, or to wait Canon to release APS-C equivalent, i.e. something named as RF-S 100-400mm? Do you think RF-S version can be even lighter and thinner than RF version? Given that R10 is so small, maybe RF-S lenses will leave more space between lenses and the body for better handling?
Hello my friend, congratulations for this review. I'm still going to watch the whole video, but I want to ask, did you notice the PULSING problem in this set?
@@Duade Please report the results later..... I used the settings that your friend shared and I didn't feel any improvement, the problem continues.... I'm pretty sure it's a firmware problem, the SERVO focus has SERIOUS problems!
Hi Duade, Such nice images you are taking there. I’m still waiting for my R7. Hopefully it will arrive before Christmas this year. Do you think R10 is an alternative? Stay safe and greetings from Germany. Marc
Hi Marc, sorry you are waiting so long, I would wait for the R7, the R10 is a pretty big downgrade on the R7 and I would spend the extra money. Cheers, Duade
On reflection I think mechanical/EFCS is best for the R10 and R7 due to the slow readout speed of the sensors. In electronic you can get some rolling shutter and wobbles. Cheers, Duade
Good video as always Duade. I'm currently testing the R10 and the AF does have some issues with small birds/animals as well as objects in low light. If you hold the AF too long on a small subject that's moving, the AF will start to search elsewhere. And in low light it will even have issues on single point. It acts a bit like the r7 with the RF 100-400 on AF. Ive been using the EF 70-200 III and RF 100-500 to test. Now in good light it performs very well. It is still goof AF system but as you saw it. is not as good as the R7 or the R5. Still for the money it's a good rig. Cheers
Thanks mate, yes, I think we always need to remember the cost of the camera and what we are asking it to do. I have struggled a little bit with soft shots also and am unsure if that is my shaky hands or poor technique but It almost looks like heat haze as the AF struggles, this is in electronic shutter. I haven't tried mechanical yet so still some testing to find the sweet spot of the camera. Good luck with your testing. Cheers, Duade
Thanks voor the great video's i learn a lot from them! I recently got a Canon R10 and want to upgrade my lens, at the moment i shoot with the tamron 16-300 but its not really sharp at 300mm. I was looking at the sigma 150-600c and then saw the rf100-400. Which one would you choose? I shoot lots of birds, a little bit macro(want to do more of that) and sometimes landscape. I know that the sigma has focus issues but does that make the choice? Or can you work around the issue?
Hi Rene, I would go with the Rf100-400 it is sharp throughout and it's minimum focus distance allows macro shots also. Plus it is super light and that combo will travel very well. If you ever need more reach you can use a 1.4 converter also. Cheers, Duade 👍
Yes, it appears all R series cameras with eye tracking have the same thing, I have a video coming out in a few days looking into it more. Cheers, Duade
Duade, I realise that you don't delve into macro photography, but I'm interested in the R10 because of the articulating screen, which I don't have on my present Canon cameras. I've read/heard that it can appear fuzzy, and has insufficient lighting - I'd be depending on it to manually focus - what has been your experience with the articulating screen, please?
It sure looks like a magical place Duade. I wonder how the Sigma 150-600mm C lens would perform on a Nikon Z6 II or maybe Z50 for wildlife? I use this lens on my Nikon D7500 currently.
Heard a z6 user also noticed minor pulsing at close range with his Sigma. It's pretty safe to assume they perform similarly on Nikon and Canon mirrorless cameras.
Hi LeBron, I think I may have taken some test shots with that combo and the Raw files can be downloaded in the description of this video. Cheers, Duade th-cam.com/video/qv3TxfZTttE/w-d-xo.html
Duade, it sounds like this OIS adjustment may possibly have the same result on the Canon R5. Have you tried the Sigma 150-600mm lens on the R5 and R7 with the same adjustment applied to the lens?
Wouldn't be surprised if moderate behaved the same way on the R5. I'd be curious to know if moderate also behaves like that on DSLR as it doesn't seem to be the case from prior reviews. It could either be the way it behaves on mirrorless bodies, or that sigma changed the behavior in some firmware update.
Totally agree with the comment below by Olcay Kabacali - your videos are excellent!!!! Your demonstrations tend to suggest to me the old adage: 'you get what you pay for' - in this case relative to the higher-end R bodies vs consumer level units, in terms of tracking at least. It seems Canon has to do some more work on the tracking for the APS-C units in particular - it seems with both the EF 3rd party and native RF lenses. That said, such a technology is not a panacea, and you proved that by switching to a more traditional focusing method with your last shots. I wish I was in Oz, I would make available my Sigma 60-600s and my own copy of the 150-600c, so you could gather some more data on this eye tracking issue! I mentioned I get different results to some degree and wondered how the variables in our situations have an impact. I shoot hand-held, no monitor, and it may be that the AF on my Sigmas (which I have customized somewhat with the docking station) and focus/tracking setting on my R-bodies have any significance... Getting good data is all about the details, isn't it? 🙂 Ergonomically, I prefer a larger camera body to give more room for control access, more control options, but also to balance out the bigger lenses. That and the loss of portrait controls, were reasons why I was disappointed that Canon did not offer battery grips with these bodies: something that was specific to their lowest-end consumer bodies in the DSLR range, which may say something...
Thanks Trevor, yes, I believe the dock and AF settings does have an impact and I hope to try some different settings in the future. I agree the APSC eye tracking is not as good or sticky as the FF counterparts, I am unsure exactly why this is, maybe more focus points, better contrast detection, not sure. Yes the 60-600 appears a great lens that does not have a lot of reviews out there. Cheers, Duade
G'day the EOS R is not really a wildlife camera with is rolling shutter, blackout shooting and lacks eye tracking I believe. The sensor is very nice but I think the R6, R8 or R5 would be a better choice, or even the R7. The R7 and RF100-400 is a great combo that is very light. The Sigma is a great lens but is heavy and has had some issues on the R mount in terms of AF. Cheers, Duade
Hello, I have a Canon R7 and I want to start shooting birds.I'm currently using my old EF 75-300mm lens with an adapter.And I'm wondering about my future lens should it be the RF100-400 or the Sigma 150-600c.
For a birder you can do an alright landscape! Funny watching the little antichines doing its thing on the blogging camera while you're trying to find it from the other side, hahahaha! And I've never seen a fairy wren stay in one spot for so long. Unbelievable.
Hi Joshua, I have not used the Sigma on the Sony but interesting to hear it works well. It sounds like you are heavily invested in the Canon system. Are there any third party lenses that you feel you need or are missing out on that Canon have not got covered? Cheers, Duade
I am interested by the eye AF, and wonder if your problems with it might be related to the sensitivity settings for it? I don’t really know any way of figuring that all out other than experimentation, I suppose. It’s definitely on my list of things to explore more closely. One thing I want to say on your videos: I appreciate the raw w/processed image overlay showing the crop and edits. I know it has to take some time in production to do, but I find it very valuable.
Thanks for the feedback, yes, I have been trying different AF settings but still seem to be having some issues, I will continue to play around with them. Cheers, Duade
How did you manage to mount the Sigma contemporary on the gimbal head? Does not it rotate? How did you manage to balance it at 600mm with such a light camera? Thank you!
I used an arca swiss plate mounted to the bottom of the lens, this is then placed on the gimbal and locked down. The lens has a knob that allows you to turn the lens to portrait if needed. Cheers, Duade
Thank you @Duade Paton. I own the same lens and the problem is it has only one screw on the foot so that it twists on the Arca Swiss plate. I am wondering about soldering a horizontal stop on the front part of the Arca Swiss plate to keep the foot stable...
@@gliderwallace83 G'day I find the screws that have an allen key to lock are much more secure and can be locked down, even the ones with a screwdriver can be locked tighter. The ones that only hand tighten come lose quickly. But yes in theory once balanced your could but something to stop the sideways movement. Cheers, Duade
Please make video on EF adapted lens performance on R7 and R10.. Currently I have a 7D2 and 400mm 5.6L Setup and thinking of selling the 7D and getting the R10 with an adapter. Would this be wise? also what do you think about battery life with a setup like this? Was the Sigma lens in this video adapted?
G'day Zaber, I would advise saving for the R7, I just don't think the R10 is up to it as a wildlife camera. The R7 will work well with the 400 5.6. Cheers, Duade 👍
What would you recommend more, i have actually the RP and you probably guessed it... its not that great for wildlife. Im thinking about the R10 as secondary and wildlife body next to the RP which will probably keep my main camera for many years coming (The RP is basically all i need, except not that great for wildlife and especially video) Or i just try to get some money back by selling the RP and throw more money in for a 2nd hand R6 which will serve me then for everything. I would love the R5 with the 45MP instead the "poor" 20MP of the R6 but well i cant afford^^
I think the R6 makes the most sense as it is far superior then both cameras and will do all things well. I know there are rumours of the R62 coming next year but we don't know how accurate that is. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I would hope somehow more for a R10 Mk2 which is more likely a crippled R6 or so so i can buy new instead of 2nd hand 2k € is still a lot and i think somehow its wrong to use a 2k€ body for lenses which are worth anywhere between 100-1000€. Thats why i bought once the EOS RP in the first place... because it wasnt much worse than the R and much more affordable and still a huge upgrade from older APS-C DSLR. Im also thinking about going "back" to 2 cameras and keeping the RP, probably also with the R6 - As i said - i am 1000% fine with the RP, in fact i even prefer the small battery and very small RP at all, since it feels just like a damn compact camera (or close to with 16, 35 or 50mm prime) with good grip! Im wondering if the RP for most of my usecases and the R6 just for wildlife and astrophotography would be a little overkill? Instead of this i would better live with always a bigger body and just forget the RP? Would i lose a lot of low light capabilities with a R7 compared to my RP? Because if not, the R7 would be even a better companion than the R6 but as 2nd camera then (super high pixel density for Astrophotography, since i sold my EOS 550D i struggle a lot at deep sky objects with the RP and its huge pixels)
@@Duade I have anyways a lot of hate on the R10... just the small buffer and slow write speeds to the SD card make me think if i really want that camera at all The R7 i like already more, but much too expensive for a APS-C The R6 is pretty ok, especially the high ISO capabilities would be a charme for my needs, not so the resolution if we keep the price in mind. (also one of the reasons i upgraded my horrible 18MP APS-C to 26MP full frame for better "cropability". I think i made a mistake with staying in the Canon system and add lenses for wildlife (for the RP), i should have kept Canon for all my needs and get a usable M 4/3 and a affordable telezoom for wildlife. Like this i would not even have to think about upgrading anything in the EOS R system i have already and would have a dedicated wildlife setup. Would even be better 2 different systems... so i can use one system for a timelapse of the main system doing astrophotography. If there would be only a R6 without IBIS since i dont want or need IBIS at all.
@@Duade I have now R7 and RP, but my main wildlife lens is the RF 800 F11 (so often 1280mm is just too much) The RF 100-400 sounds lika a good compromise, but they are not yet on the 2nd hand market and new its too expensive yet. The 150-600 Sigma sounds more and more interesting since the EF 70-200 is not enough on the EOS RP to compensate for 1280mm only. R6+RF 800 was a joy, for the R7 this lens is just the "moon extender", basically for most reach in wildlife. With RP+ Sigma 150-600 and R7+ RF 800 (or just R7+150-600) i would have a great set to choose from without big compromises if im thinking right. RF 800 for the lightweight and sigma for the "serious" stuff.
You sir are the best youtube content creater for bird photography. Thanks a lot for the amazing videos and huge effort behind them.
Thanks Olcay, you are too kind, Cheers, Duade
Fully agree, Duade for Bird President
agree.
seconded!
Initially, I was thinking of the R7 with the RF100-400, but it looks like you proved the R10 is good enough and you can really save the money! Nice shots. So inspiring!
Finally the video is here I looked for this video a month ago and nothing but now is here 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 very good job
Thanks Jonas, I hope you enjoyed, Cheers, Duade
I love your on-location videos. What a landscape, and wonderful animals!
Thanks Christian, I am glad you enjoyed it, Cheers, Duade
Another excellent video Duade, you prove time and time again it's not all about the gear, yes we know higher priced cameras and lenses can do certain things better, this is what you pay for, but you can still take excellent photos and most of all have fun with more affordable gear.
Thanks Tony, yes, I had a lot of fun that is for sure, Cheers, Duade
Great video as always, thanks for the great moments and pictures!
The R10 + RF100-400 combo looks like a great starting point for anyone starting out with wildlife photography on a budget. It's so small that they won't get tired of the hobby by carrying it around, and can get great results with that animal eye AF which is especially useful if you're just starting out, it's probably a lot easier to get great pictures from the get go than any camera that doesn't have that feature. Getting that combo also lands you with great upgrade paths options for the future. In its price range it could be the best animal eye AF on the market, so a very good value proposition, but I'll be waiting for your review before making any recommendations!
I appreciate you sharing your point of view having tried all the different R cameras. It seems the R7/10 were hyped up at launch to have the same AF performance as the R3, and it looks like we're starting to discover it was probably too good to be true. They're good cameras but maybe we set our expectations a bit too high on them. The argument that the R7 isn't a true modern flagship APSc like the 7D2 was at its time is getting more and more true it seems. Thank you for giving us that reality check!
Your experience with the superb fairy wren with the Sigma at close range looks exactly like some of the issues I've noticed in my testing. With accel/deccel not set at -2 the pulsing bug can be so intense that it can completely lose focus out of seemingly nowhere, and your recording of the viewfinder showcased it perfectly. Accel/deccel to -2 is the main setting that helped at least prevent the tracking to not go completely off.
Before anyone goes out to try the settings listed in the description, you should know that I can't confirm for sure that the values for +2 sensitivity and slowest AF are truly optimal and I'm still testing those two. Interesting to note is that I recall Jan Wegener recommending to set both accel/deccel AND sensitivity to -2 with his RF100-500 to help the R7 keep the tracking sticking to birds. On perfectly still dummy subjects on a tripod and house sparrows at a feeder high sensitivity seemed to help a little bit with the pulsing (definitely not as much as Accel/deccel), but there might be trade offs to those settings in harder, in the field scenarios. Maybe standard AF speed and something like sensitivity at 0 will turn out to be a better middle ground.
In my testing, with sensitivity at -2 the tracking blue box seemed to lag behind the house sparrows as they were moving and jumping around, while at +2 they were more locked on them. On dummy subjects at close range in pulsing tests, it seemed as though the tracking would lock back onto focus quicker with sensitivity at +2, making the pulses slightly shorter, but it had no effect on the frequency or intensity of the pulses.
As for AF speeds using the dock, once the tracking locked into a subject, the slowest speed seems fast enough to keep track of even fast moving subjects and in a smoother way, and I've used it for BIF on cormorants with great success. But there definitely is a trade off in initial acquisition speed. Going from infinity to near and vice versa is noticeably slower, so perhaps standard speed will turn out to be a better middle ground.
Just wanted to give a bit more info to you Duade until you have the chance to try it for yourself, hopefully this and the info I gave already will give you a good point to get started with your own testing. I'm just glad I could get the conversation started and I think you have much more experience than me so I will trust your judgement after you've had a go at trying out the different settings. Can't wait for the next feature of our friend Gary 😉 Cheers!
PS: This might sound like a weird question, but do Australians ever get "accustomed" to seeing kangaroos in the wild, or is it the kind of animal that just gives you those chills everytime you see it? Here in Canada I find that some animals like bears and moose are just so impressive, everytime you encounter them it's like you're seeing them for the first time! I get those same vibes watching kangaroos in your vids, everytime my jaw just drops to the floor!
Thanks Simon, I agree with everything you have said and I look forward to trying these settings out myself in the future, we have rain for the next week and I have a busy week at work so the testing will have to wait. Having grown up in NZ, Kangaroos were a real highlight when I first saw them in the wild, I still love to see them and I get a buzz when I go inland and see the other main species the Red Kangaroo, we only get Eastern Grey here. There are a number of Wallabies I am still to see and plenty of other critters. So I look forward to hopefully doing some travel in the future. I would love to see a Moose or a Bear. My wife and family are all Canadian and have heard many Moose and Bear stories. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I hope you do see them one day! Wild kangaroos are on my bucket list for sure 🙂 The Rockies in the west and Gaspésie/Maritimes in the east are great nature places to visit in Canada. Ontario also has great beautiful national parks and reserves in the Great Lakes area too. Cheers mate!
As someone who is looking to start out without any experience beyond my flagship smartphone, would you still suggest the R10 + RF100-400mm ten months later, or should I spend that little bit extra for the R7?
@@SavRSx unless you plan to upgrade again down the line, I think I would go with the R7. With the R7, you're a lot more future proof. Especially if wildlife will be the main focus. If wildlife isn't the main focus of your purchase, the R10 can certainly still deliver great results.
But if you get more and more into it, the ergos, small buffer and small battery will be annoying. The R7 also performs quite a bit better AF wise, which you can never have enough. Stuff like IBIS and much better video capabilities just sealed the deal for me. I've had my R7 since release and plan to keep it for many more years to come. If I had gone R10, I'd probably still be thinking about upgrading a year later.
But if you were go FF anyway eventually, the R10 is a good starting point.
Hello. Je n'ai pas la seconde vidéo dont tu parles pour donner tes conclusions sur le R10. Je shoote en R7 + 100-500 RF (après avoir essayé 1 mois le Sigma 159-600 bien vite revendu). Mon épouse en R10. Je confirme que l'autofocus n'est pas aussi performant pour la mise au point initiale sur le sujet. Par contre, une fois le sujet net, il colle comme sur le R7 et ça reste net avec quelques déchets acceptables. Philippe
Me too! i naturally get up around 4-5 am so I never miss a sunrise. My wife is now getting into it, but getting her out of bed early, is not a hard as it used to be. All I have to whisper is “It’s kicking off!” She will shoot out of bed and race for her camera scrambling and asking “what do I do, what do I do?” I am usually grinning from ear to ear watching her panic and race to get set up. It brings me great joy. Lol
Great to hear Dean, yes, a lovely time of the morning to be sure, Cheers, Duade
Very nice video. I really like the way you show the crop and then the processed image within the original full-frame photo.
Thanks Bruce, yes, I believe that is quite helpful for people which I am happy to hear, Cheers, Duade
lovely video and beautiful images. when my sister visited Australia she brought me a mug with fairy wren picture, now its my Thursday tea mug. when ever i use it, dream of one day see all those lovely wrens and robins.
Oh that is lovely, yes, we have a number of Fairy-wrens and they are all delightful, I have a few mugs myself. Cheers, Duade
The irony that im considering these two lenses and you make a videp comparing the two. Its affordable and this video really helps me in that decision making!
Thanks!
Thanks Jeff, I appreciate the support, Cheers, Duade
stunning duade. absolutely beatuiful.
Thanks oz, Cheers, Duade
Very lucky to see that Antechinus during the ay as they are normally nocturnal. Cracking pic of it.
Thanks mate, yes, very cool to see and happy to get a shot. Cheers, Duade
My heart melts when seeing these small critters! I'd love to see one myself one day! I'm hoping 2024 will be the year I get to visit Australia... sadly, I have SO much money left to gather into a pile, before I can afford the trip I'm planning...
Thanks, I hope you get to see them when you do get down here for a visit, yes, it can be expensive to travel around this massive country. Cheers, Duade
you know, sometimes it's the smaller things/critter/animals that have soo much detail. Often we walk by them and overlook them. I have taken a few pictures of small animals/critters and the more I look, the more I see and they have so much detail and beauty.
Fantastic video. Just looked like a lot of fun as well as some cracking images. The scenery is stunning. Loved that little Antechinus running around ❤️
It sure was May, thanks again for the ongoing support, Cheers, Duade
Looking forward to your review of R10 and 100-400 lens set up. Have same on order William be disappointed. Another good video displaying Aussie wildlife and scenery 😀👍
Thanks Stephen, yes, I need to do some further testing to see what it is capable of. Cheers, Duade
My man Duade just never misses
Thanks Navin, you are too kind, Cheers, Duade
Even when Im not interested in the gear you are using, I watch your vids for the Australian wildlife. Another entertaining video, Duade. Thanks.
Thanks Woody, I appreciate it, Cheers, Duade
Thanks for the continued variety on yet another new camera body, Duade. As always, some very nice shots that were able to capture! I especially enjoyed the backlit kangaroos scrapping beyond the grass & the brown quail for something a little different. It looks like the R10 can definitely get the job done & think it will be interesting to see if the eye AF continues to be less consistent. Thanks again for all your efforts & sharing the experience. Hope your work projects will go well & provide you with more time to get out shooting soon. Have a good one, & best regards ~ Chris
Thanks mate, yes, it was fun to try out this little camera, Cheers, Duade
Hello from Montreal Canada, awesome video like always, it's such a joy to always wacth your videos and learn from you 🐦👍
Great to hear Miguel, I am glad you enjoyed it, Cheers, Duade
09:38 Ehrm... I stupidly felt like you were talking straight to me there!
I knew you would love that part :-) Cheers, Duade
I think I have figured something out for myself watching this video. I need to find someone that also likes shooting wildlife photos and go together. I do have friends that do it, but they live far from me. But I think having someone with will help me. I don't always have free time, but I can make time free. I loved this video and the pictures you took are amazing. Love them!!!! I also loved the way you pointed to the snake on the sign. Where I live we have poisonous snakes (bothrops atrox) on our yard every so often.
Last year I joined a local camera club. Some of the members are also into wildlife photography, and they occasionally have walkabouts. It's great to join up with like minded people. The is so much pooled local knowledge about where to go and how to find the wildlife.
Thanks Michael, yes, if you can find a like minded person it helps for sure, always fun to share the experience. Cheers, Duade
@@Andy_Thomas so I live in Suriname South America, a country many people have never heard of. I have friends who love wildlife photography but we live to far a apart to get together frequently. So I might have to find someone closer so I can get together more frequently.
@@Duade I am someone who learns while watching people do things. I just can't pick up some book on photography and read it and become a pro. I need to do and see at the same time. I may be kind of slow, and the thing with photography, there are so many things that have to become second nature to me that I do need to practice a lot and I have seen myself grow in the almost 7years since I bought my first DSLR. Some of my first pictures I was proud of, I don't even want to look at now because I have learned so much more and my standard of quality keeps going up.
I've been waiting for this
I hope you enjoyed it, Cheers, Duade
I'm thinking of buying the canon r10 and rf 100 to 400mm I'm upgrading from the fujifilm finepix s1800 do you think it would be a good choice
Just got my R10 paired with Sigma 150-600. Couldnt be happier!
I’ve learned so much from your channel! Thank you so much for doing this sir!🙏
Im a composer and pianist by profession, but have always dreamed of doing something visual to give balance to music. I LOVE the outdoors (I live beside one of the biggest wilderness areas of south Finland, so lots of wildlife here) so nature photography was something I I always dreamed of doing, but it just felt kind of intimidating. Your channel and your engouraging, down to earth style, has helped me immensely. Now Im hooked😅Just love it!
Thank you and cheers from the village Fiskars, Finland!
Can you please share how's the lens? I'm still considering sigma 150-600 and RF 100-400 due the price affordability
@@Ohsnaapz31I would be interested too. Do you have AF issues like Duade describe?
It looks like it was a fantastic morning! The R10 looks like one heck of an upgrade to an M50. Even if the autofocus isn't on par with the R7, I'd bet it's an upgrade to what I'm used to. I was so focused on the R7 I never even considered this one.
Hi Mark, the R7 is a step up and worth the extra money IMO, the R10 is good but it is tiny and has more rolling shutter, worse AF, small EVF. But to be expected at that price point. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I agree completely about the R7 vs 10. From the perspective of an M50 user, I would think the 10 would probably be an ok upgrade. The 7 would be a huge upgrade.
The kangaroo picture is next level! Magical
Thank you, I appreciate the feedback, Cheers, Duade
Great video with some amazing shots mate. I guess in this price point, it's a great little camera. Not easy to find other cameras with the same specks for this price. Have a great week.
Cheers, Bjoern.
Thanks mate, yes, I agree, for its price we cannot expect it to compete with the R5 etc. Cheers, Duade
Another great video Duade. I managed to spend two nights at Lake Wollumboola got some nice shots so thanks again for the heads up. Winton Wetlands looks great too :)
That is great to hear David, I would love to get back down there at some stage. Cheers, Duade
Im so glad you joined the ranks of the 500mm+ landscape photographers! ;)
Thanks Benjamin, I assume it is a very small club :-) Cheers, Duade
@@Duade dont laugh about it :D at sundown or sunrise, its totally viable, since there isnt much heat distortion.
You just need some distance to the horizon.. like... a LOT
Im always giggling when an opportunity presents itself to take one of those shots, just like you did.
So: welcome to the club
Winton Wetlands is a great place that has certainly changed over the past 60 years. Hoping to get back there next month.
Thanks Allan, yes, I am sure you have seen many changes, they seem to be putting a lot of funding into it which is great. Cheers, Duade
Another awesome video Duade! I often find myself struggling with bird images with a backlit sunrise or sunset. In this video, I really enjoyed your commentary about the landscape and just "being out there". Even a "normal" outing for you is extremely interesting for a person like me in Southern California. I went to Australia about15 years ago and everything about it was spectacular for a biologist such as myself. Thanks for sharing these videos!
It is my pleasure, it was a fun morning out for sure, yes I bet Australia is very interesting to those with a science and history background. Cheers, Duade
Thanks Duade for another enjoyable and informative day out in the NE. The Winton wetlands are definitely worth a visit or two. 🙂🙂
Thanks John, it sure is, plenty of water in there at the moment making it interesting. Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, what a thrill as usual to watch your videos, I can feel the genuine devotion for the local wildlife. On the technical aspect, owning a R10 + RF100-400 to start some wildlife photography, i would hesitate to add an 1.4x extender to this zoom which is already as dim as F8 wide open at 400mm ! It is a bit too much for the current AF technology, and i bet it would have been the same for an R7 which is no different in its AF implementation, the cost of the R10 was not cut on that aspect: same processor and AF software, same principle of dual pixels spread on an APS-C-sized sensor.
Thanks, yes, it was fun for sure, it is interesting re the converter and no doubt does impact AF. Canon do seem to be releasing slower lenses so I would hope these cameras can AF well with them. Cheers, Duade
Another great video. I’ve gotta force myself to get up out of bed at 0500 and go photograph the coastal wildlife
Thank Roger, well worth getting up early, just check the forecast, nothing worse getting out there and its wet and cloudy. Cheers, Duade
Love the landscapes!
Thanks John, Cheers, Duade
Great you summarized Simon Thibodeau's comments on that Sigma lens as well, Duade. Valued info for anyone using that combo - well done to you both Also noticed more of the Sigma shots you shared were shot @ 6.3 this time. End results still appeared quite nice.
Thanks, yes, it does still perform pretty well at 6.3, I should have stopped down in retrospect. Cheers, Duade
The eye of the Superb Fairy Wren male are not contrasting to the face, so how should the eye tracking find the eyes? After your videos I bought an R10 and a Canon 100-400 lens and I am happy with that!
Hans, perhaps I am asking too much of the eye tracking, I think the issue for me is the R5/R6 eye tracking works much better and sticks to the subject which has me slightly confused with the R7/R10 eye tracking. Great to hear you are enjoying your R10 and RF100-400. Cheers, Duade
Just bought the R7 ,i have a sigma 150x600c going to give it a go......
Good luck Skip, I have a video coming out in a few days with settings for that combo you might find helpful, Cheers, Duade
Hi Duade, if I can borrow a statement from Olcay & edit it "You sir are the best youtube content creater", fantastic again Duade.
Of all the youtube content I subscribe to, nothing compares, you certainly have the midas touch & you could do the same topic 100 times over & make it so interesting.
Impatiently waiting for the next video already.
Cheers mate.
Thanks George, you are too kind, I really appreciate the support, Cheers, Duade
Very interesting finding on the AF issue solution...Thanks. Hope you can do a video after the update.
Thanks, will do in the future, Cheers, Duade
Thanks for your nice R10 test in real world. I think if you have the SKILL level enough then no matter what gears you have. 😀 The landscapes are really amazing. .
Thanks mate, yes, any modern camera is capable of taking lovely shots. Cheers, Duade
Agree 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Informative and entertaining as always!
Thanks Christopher, Cheers, Duade
Yes, really enjoyed.
Thanks Palane, that is great to hear, Cheers, Duade
You should do a review!
G'day mate, several very nice images once again proving you point some affordable gear is a good enough entry ticket into our addictive passion ;-)
Really liked how you filmed from behind the antechinus and how both of you attempted to take some shots of it. Gives an impression how these tiny creatures must feel when we approach them !
Thanks Werner, yes, it was a fun session, they are cool little mammals that is for sure, Cheers, Duade
I've been practicing birding on the plethora of pigeons and guls around me with the same lens on an R7. This really is a very powerful combo, if a little heavy. I do get pulsing too, or having a hard time getting on subject. But the lens does let me to manual and the AF eventually does catch the subject. Only seems to happen between 500-600mm so far, I haven't shot under 500 except for right at 150.
Thanks for sharing your experience, it does appear to be a common experience, be sure to check out the post by Simon about how he setup is Sigma lens for better AF. Cheers, Duade
"1. Pulsing appears to disappear from 7m/22ft to infinity.
2. Use Moderate OIS - (You need the dock to change this) This increases keepers as the Standard and Dynamic OIS try to keep the viewfinder steady which appears to be causing soft shots in bursts as it is trying to reset the lens. You can use moderate whilst using a tripod or monopod.
3. In AF menu set accel/deccel to -2, Tracking sensitivity +2, Switching tracked Subject to 0.
4. Using the Sigma Dock set to slowest AF setting."
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@@Duade
I don't have access to a dock, but I literally just made those AF changes. Rain tomorrow though, so I'll have to wait another day to try it out.
Enjoyed it. Thanks 👍
My pleasure, Cheers, Duade
Hi duade could you do a video reviewing the canon 250D (slr3) it would be super helpful for everyone as its a common beginners body
I don't have access to the 250D unfortunately, sorry about that. Cheers, Duade
Awesome landscapes - always works well if no wildlife around also
Great video Duade 👍 Looking forward for the detailed review.
Thanks, Cheers, Duade
Wow, that Roo was "Yoked." thank you for the video.
He sure was a specimen that is for sure. Cheers, Duade
These are my exact lenses right now, enjoying them
That is great to hear Triss, Cheers, Duade
I love that you you just have Cockatoos in the wild. My sister used to have one as a pet here in the US. That location is amazing! Looks like the r10 did a decent job (minus the eye tracking) even with the Sigma lens. The Kangaroo shots were pretty cool! Cheers.
Thanks, yes, it was a wonderful mornings session that is for sure. Yes, we are very lucky to have the birds we have down here. Cheers, Duade
While I have been a devoted Canon user for over ten years, (even longer if you count pocket cameras) I doubt I would be interested in the R10 except for possibly using it to teach someone the basics of digital photography. Definitely not a camera I would carry in my bag. Still, another fantastic video! It is amazing how you make the viewer feel as if they are right there with you in the field. Also really appreciate your genuine love of your craft. I imagine I would enjoy your review of just about any camera or gear, especially when done in the field with real life situations. So, what's next? How about a 1980's model Polaroid? Or perhaps an old Brownie camera? Seriously, doesn't really matter, just keep recording and posting! Best videos on TH-cam!
Thanks mate, yes, not a camera I would purchase myself, just too small for my hands and the R7 offers a lot more for not that much more. Glad to hear you are enjoying the videos, Cheers, Duade
Really likes this video, i still waiting for your review of R10 😅
Hi, thanks for the great video. The Winton area and outback in general is beautiful, we have been there a few times.
I was looking at the RF100-400 mm and when I clicked on the link, it seems that it doesn't lead to an Australian retailer. Would you have a recommended Australian retailer for your camera gear? It doesn't make sense for me to order overseas. Thank you.
G'day, I have find Camerapro, Digidirect to be very good. Cheers, Duade
hi Duade is the r 10 good for wildlife photography birds etc as I fancy getting one used one that is ,keep up the good work,
Hi David, it lacks a number of features of the R7 and is a budget orientated option however does provide eye tracking, fps in a very affordable and small package. I would favour the R7 as the better all around option and I am early on my testing of the R10. It is a very small camera so if you have bigger hands it is a bit awkward. I think I would advise saving the extra money for the R7 to be honest. Cheers, Duade
Many thanks for your great video
Could you make a video from testing this camera with Canon 100-500 RF lens please?
Good day and great video as always 😊
Thanks Seltun, Cheers, Duade
need full review soon and also the comparison with r 7
Thanks GSK, yes, I need to start working on that, Cheers, Duade
Have the same problem with 3rd party lenses mostly Tamron 18-400 f3.5-6.3 eye detection is very annoying, don’t have that problem with the canon RF 100-400. Thanks for the video always enjoy the Aussie wildlife, your blessed to have such diversity. Will be watching for new vids.👁👀
Thanks for sharing your experience George, Cheers, Duade
I heard there are so new upcoming lens for canon aps r Mount such as 32mm and 55-250mm
Hi Savio, I am unsure which lenses are coming for the APSC mount, we will see. Cheers, Duade
Excellent. It feels the R10 is far behind the R7 reegarding eye tracking autofocus... Thank you ...Nice 😊
Thanks Daniel, yes, that appears to be my findings so far, Cheers, Duade
Lovely vid 👍👍👍👍
Thanks Tintin, Cheers, Duade
another great video Duade, thank you was very helpful, i was looking at the R7 but was worried about the sigma 150-600mm C which works flawlessly on my R6 i found if i turn off IBIS and OS i dont get as many pulses. could you please do a review on your ninja field monitor to camera as i am thinking of getting one for my R6 and i love your reviews thank you.
Thanks for the feedback, good to hear the Sigma is working well on the R6. The monitor basically replicates the viewfinder however does not have touchscreen ability. The Ninja can record the viewfinder or act as an external recorder, however that is not necessary if you just want an external screen. I don't really use it when not recording for TH-cam as I find the viewfinder much easier to find the subject. But if you are in a blind or setup somewhere it can be handy. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade thank you for the reply very much appreciated.
That might be the only thing I haven't tried yet. I've tried OIS on and off with the lens and didn't see any difference, but I haven't tried turning off IBIS as well. I'll give it a go when I can, thanks for the info.
Love to watch your bird trips and gear reviews. Question. I notice a difference of stickyness between the EOS R6, R7 and R10. All with the RF 100-400mm. R6 is the best. R10 the worst. Do you notice this too and does it depend on the max aperture of the lens? Thanks.
Hi Pieter, yes, I notice this also, R10 appears to be the worse for sure. I will do some more testing in the future. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Great. I'm curious. It also has to do with how much light there is and how busy the background is. Good luck.
Hi @Duade ! Thank you for the content. Duade, have you observed in the R10 the same inconsistent focus you observed with R7 for high speed bursts in low contrast situations? Thank you!
I am tempted to buy Canon R10 and RF 100-400mm. Would it be better to buy this combo now, or to wait Canon to release APS-C equivalent, i.e. something named as RF-S 100-400mm? Do you think RF-S version can be even lighter and thinner than RF version? Given that R10 is so small, maybe RF-S lenses will leave more space between lenses and the body for better handling?
Which lens did you think did the best on R10? I have same camera and debating to buy 1.4x for 100-400 or just purchasing 150-600mm sigma..
I really enjoyed your photos gallery sir ❤️
I'm planning to buy Canon EOS R10🙏
Thanks Satya, it is a good camera, I prefer the R7 but it is more expensive, Cheers, Duade
Hello my friend, congratulations for this review. I'm still going to watch the whole video, but I want to ask, did you notice the PULSING problem in this set?
G'day, yes, I did notice it with the Sigma, I am testing the Sigma lens now with the updated settings, Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Please report the results later..... I used the settings that your friend shared and I didn't feel any improvement, the problem continues.... I'm pretty sure it's a firmware problem, the SERVO focus has SERIOUS problems!
Hi Duade, Such nice images you are taking there. I’m still waiting for my R7. Hopefully it will arrive before Christmas this year. Do you think R10 is an alternative? Stay safe and greetings from Germany. Marc
Hi Marc, sorry you are waiting so long, I would wait for the R7, the R10 is a pretty big downgrade on the R7 and I would spend the extra money. Cheers, Duade
Sigma 150-600contemprory vs tamron 150-600 which is good for video
They are both very similar and would need a tripod for the best video as handholding would be pretty shaky, Cheers, Duade
hello!! you usually shoot with an electronic shutter
On reflection I think mechanical/EFCS is best for the R10 and R7 due to the slow readout speed of the sensors. In electronic you can get some rolling shutter and wobbles. Cheers, Duade
Good video as always Duade.
I'm currently testing the R10 and the AF does have some issues with small birds/animals as well as objects in low light. If you hold the AF too long on a small subject that's moving, the AF will start to search elsewhere. And in low light it will even have issues on single point. It acts a bit like the r7 with the RF 100-400 on AF. Ive been using the EF 70-200 III and RF 100-500 to test.
Now in good light it performs very well. It is still goof AF system but as you saw it. is not as good as the R7 or the R5. Still for the money it's a good rig.
Cheers
Thanks mate, yes, I think we always need to remember the cost of the camera and what we are asking it to do. I have struggled a little bit with soft shots also and am unsure if that is my shaky hands or poor technique but It almost looks like heat haze as the AF struggles, this is in electronic shutter. I haven't tried mechanical yet so still some testing to find the sweet spot of the camera. Good luck with your testing. Cheers, Duade
Thanks voor the great video's i learn a lot from them!
I recently got a Canon R10 and want to upgrade my lens, at the moment i shoot with the tamron 16-300 but its not really sharp at 300mm. I was looking at the sigma 150-600c and then saw the rf100-400. Which one would you choose? I shoot lots of birds, a little bit macro(want to do more of that) and sometimes landscape. I know that the sigma has focus issues but does that make the choice? Or can you work around the issue?
Hi Rene, I would go with the Rf100-400 it is sharp throughout and it's minimum focus distance allows macro shots also. Plus it is super light and that combo will travel very well. If you ever need more reach you can use a 1.4 converter also. Cheers, Duade 👍
I use the canon eos 2000d with the sigma DG 150 to 500
Sir Please review the canon 250d with sigma 150-600 mm
Hi, I am sure the lens would work great on that body, Cheers, Duade
Must admit tried the R10 but like you found the button's too small . Nice vid
Thanks Paul, yes, I was surprised with just how small they are, surely they could have made them bigger. Cheers, Duade
hi duade hope ur well. how does the r5 cope with the sigma. does plus as well ? and that was one badass kangaroo
Yes, it appears all R series cameras with eye tracking have the same thing, I have a video coming out in a few days looking into it more. Cheers, Duade
Duade, I realise that you don't delve into macro photography, but I'm interested in the R10 because of the articulating screen, which I don't have on my present Canon cameras. I've read/heard that it can appear fuzzy, and has insufficient lighting - I'd be depending on it to manually focus - what has been your experience with the articulating screen, please?
It sure looks like a magical place Duade. I wonder how the Sigma 150-600mm C lens would perform on a Nikon Z6 II or maybe Z50 for wildlife? I use this lens on my Nikon D7500 currently.
Heard a z6 user also noticed minor pulsing at close range with his Sigma. It's pretty safe to assume they perform similarly on Nikon and Canon mirrorless cameras.
@@simonthibodeau7082 thanks, I thought there might be some issues
Hi Steve, sorry I have no experience with the lens on Nikon bodies at this stage, I think Nikon have a 200-600 coming soon though. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade Yeah, still waiting for that Z 200-600mm!
Can you try the r7 with the EF 100-400ii and the 2x adaptor
Hi LeBron, I think I may have taken some test shots with that combo and the Raw files can be downloaded in the description of this video. Cheers, Duade th-cam.com/video/qv3TxfZTttE/w-d-xo.html
Duade, it sounds like this OIS adjustment may possibly have the same result on the Canon R5. Have you tried the Sigma 150-600mm lens on the R5 and R7 with the same adjustment applied to the lens?
Hi Barry, I have not tried it as yet but plan on doing so in the coming weeks, Cheers, Duade
Wouldn't be surprised if moderate behaved the same way on the R5. I'd be curious to know if moderate also behaves like that on DSLR as it doesn't seem to be the case from prior reviews. It could either be the way it behaves on mirrorless bodies, or that sigma changed the behavior in some firmware update.
Totally agree with the comment below by Olcay Kabacali - your videos are excellent!!!!
Your demonstrations tend to suggest to me the old adage: 'you get what you pay for' - in this case relative to the higher-end R bodies vs consumer level units, in terms of tracking at least. It seems Canon has to do some more work on the tracking for the APS-C units in particular - it seems with both the EF 3rd party and native RF lenses. That said, such a technology is not a panacea, and you proved that by switching to a more traditional focusing method with your last shots.
I wish I was in Oz, I would make available my Sigma 60-600s and my own copy of the 150-600c, so you could gather some more data on this eye tracking issue! I mentioned I get different results to some degree and wondered how the variables in our situations have an impact. I shoot hand-held, no monitor, and it may be that the AF on my Sigmas (which I have customized somewhat with the docking station) and focus/tracking setting on my R-bodies have any significance...
Getting good data is all about the details, isn't it? 🙂
Ergonomically, I prefer a larger camera body to give more room for control access, more control options, but also to balance out the bigger lenses. That and the loss of portrait controls, were reasons why I was disappointed that Canon did not offer battery grips with these bodies: something that was specific to their lowest-end consumer bodies in the DSLR range, which may say something...
Thanks Trevor, yes, I believe the dock and AF settings does have an impact and I hope to try some different settings in the future. I agree the APSC eye tracking is not as good or sticky as the FF counterparts, I am unsure exactly why this is, maybe more focus points, better contrast detection, not sure. Yes the 60-600 appears a great lens that does not have a lot of reviews out there. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade You are very patient and gracious, thank you!
Hey Duade, great video. What settings do you have for dual back button focus? Thankss
Hi Xiang, I have mine setup very similar to Wild Alaska who did a video you can check out, Cheers, Duade th-cam.com/video/tQwyMzlj1gE/w-d-xo.html
Recon a full frame EOS R would be alright for bird photography with the 100-400? Cant decide betwen that and the sigma 150-600c.
G'day the EOS R is not really a wildlife camera with is rolling shutter, blackout shooting and lacks eye tracking I believe. The sensor is very nice but I think the R6, R8 or R5 would be a better choice, or even the R7. The R7 and RF100-400 is a great combo that is very light. The Sigma is a great lens but is heavy and has had some issues on the R mount in terms of AF. Cheers, Duade
@Duade Thank you, some food for thought! Will have a good think about my next move 🫣🫡
I'd still rather the R7 but this camera for it's price seems really good, a great beginner camera.
Thanks Angus, yep, R7 is the better camera for sure. But on a tight budget it maybe an option. Cheers, Duade
It's a great camera and not only for beginners
Hello, I have a Canon R7 and I want to start shooting birds.I'm currently using my old EF 75-300mm lens with an adapter.And I'm wondering about my future lens should it be the RF100-400 or the Sigma 150-600c.
For a birder you can do an alright landscape! Funny watching the little antichines doing its thing on the blogging camera while you're trying to find it from the other side, hahahaha! And I've never seen a fairy wren stay in one spot for so long. Unbelievable.
Thanks Denise, yes, we got lucky with that male, he just kept going back to the same perch. Cheers, Duade
You can get these lenses natively on Sony and they work flawlessly. I'm about 6 months away from dumping $25k of Canon gear unless they open RF mount
Hi Joshua, I have not used the Sigma on the Sony but interesting to hear it works well. It sounds like you are heavily invested in the Canon system. Are there any third party lenses that you feel you need or are missing out on that Canon have not got covered? Cheers, Duade
Damn Canon, when will you deliver my R7.
Thanks for the video.
Sorry to hear you are still waiting, I hope they get the supply sorted soon, Cheers, Duade
I want the same jacket))) seriously!
You need adapter to canon r10 and sigma 150-600?
yes
What Shutter Mode would you recommend on this Camera for Wildlife? I keep going back in forth between Electronic and Electronic First Curtain.
It really depends on the speed of the sensor, on the R10 probably the Electronic First Curtain as you elimate rolling shutter. Cheers, Duade
Thanks you! Cheers!@@Duade
I am interested by the eye AF, and wonder if your problems with it might be related to the sensitivity settings for it? I don’t really know any way of figuring that all out other than experimentation, I suppose. It’s definitely on my list of things to explore more closely. One thing I want to say on your videos: I appreciate the raw w/processed image overlay showing the crop and edits. I know it has to take some time in production to do, but I find it very valuable.
Thanks for the feedback, yes, I have been trying different AF settings but still seem to be having some issues, I will continue to play around with them. Cheers, Duade
How did you manage to mount the Sigma contemporary on the gimbal head? Does not it rotate?
How did you manage to balance it at 600mm with such a light camera?
Thank you!
I used an arca swiss plate mounted to the bottom of the lens, this is then placed on the gimbal and locked down. The lens has a knob that allows you to turn the lens to portrait if needed. Cheers, Duade
Thank you @Duade Paton.
I own the same lens and the problem is it has only one screw on the foot so that it twists on the Arca Swiss plate.
I am wondering about soldering a horizontal stop on the front part of the Arca Swiss plate to keep the foot stable...
@@gliderwallace83 G'day I find the screws that have an allen key to lock are much more secure and can be locked down, even the ones with a screwdriver can be locked tighter. The ones that only hand tighten come lose quickly. But yes in theory once balanced your could but something to stop the sideways movement. Cheers, Duade
Please make video on EF adapted lens performance on R7 and R10.. Currently I have a 7D2 and 400mm 5.6L Setup and thinking of selling the 7D and getting the R10 with an adapter. Would this be wise? also what do you think about battery life with a setup like this?
Was the Sigma lens in this video adapted?
G'day Zaber, I would advise saving for the R7, I just don't think the R10 is up to it as a wildlife camera. The R7 will work well with the 400 5.6. Cheers, Duade 👍
How come you don’t post on your instagram that much?! Just curious
To be honest I couldn't handle an ad every third image which ruins the experience for me. I would gladly pay to turn the ads off. Cheers, Duade
What would you recommend more, i have actually the RP and you probably guessed it... its not that great for wildlife.
Im thinking about the R10 as secondary and wildlife body next to the RP which will probably keep my main camera for many years coming (The RP is basically all i need, except not that great for wildlife and especially video)
Or i just try to get some money back by selling the RP and throw more money in for a 2nd hand R6 which will serve me then for everything. I would love the R5 with the 45MP instead the "poor" 20MP of the R6 but well i cant afford^^
I think the R6 makes the most sense as it is far superior then both cameras and will do all things well. I know there are rumours of the R62 coming next year but we don't know how accurate that is. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I would hope somehow more for a R10 Mk2 which is more likely a crippled R6 or so so i can buy new instead of 2nd hand
2k € is still a lot and i think somehow its wrong to use a 2k€ body for lenses which are worth anywhere between 100-1000€.
Thats why i bought once the EOS RP in the first place... because it wasnt much worse than the R and much more affordable and still a huge upgrade from older APS-C DSLR.
Im also thinking about going "back" to 2 cameras and keeping the RP, probably also with the R6 - As i said - i am 1000% fine with the RP, in fact i even prefer the small battery and very small RP at all, since it feels just like a damn compact camera (or close to with 16, 35 or 50mm prime) with good grip!
Im wondering if the RP for most of my usecases and the R6 just for wildlife and astrophotography would be a little overkill? Instead of this i would better live with always a bigger body and just forget the RP?
Would i lose a lot of low light capabilities with a R7 compared to my RP? Because if not, the R7 would be even a better companion than the R6 but as 2nd camera then (super high pixel density for Astrophotography, since i sold my EOS 550D i struggle a lot at deep sky objects with the RP and its huge pixels)
@@Duade I have anyways a lot of hate on the R10... just the small buffer and slow write speeds to the SD card make me think if i really want that camera at all
The R7 i like already more, but much too expensive for a APS-C
The R6 is pretty ok, especially the high ISO capabilities would be a charme for my needs, not so the resolution if we keep the price in mind. (also one of the reasons i upgraded my horrible 18MP APS-C to 26MP full frame for better "cropability".
I think i made a mistake with staying in the Canon system and add lenses for wildlife (for the RP), i should have kept Canon for all my needs and get a usable M 4/3 and a affordable telezoom for wildlife. Like this i would not even have to think about upgrading anything in the EOS R system i have already and would have a dedicated wildlife setup.
Would even be better 2 different systems... so i can use one system for a timelapse of the main system doing astrophotography.
If there would be only a R6 without IBIS since i dont want or need IBIS at all.
@@Duade I have now R7 and RP, but my main wildlife lens is the RF 800 F11 (so often 1280mm is just too much)
The RF 100-400 sounds lika a good compromise, but they are not yet on the 2nd hand market and new its too expensive yet.
The 150-600 Sigma sounds more and more interesting since the EF 70-200 is not enough on the EOS RP to compensate for 1280mm only. R6+RF 800 was a joy, for the R7 this lens is just the "moon extender", basically for most reach in wildlife.
With RP+ Sigma 150-600 and R7+ RF 800 (or just R7+150-600) i would have a great set to choose from without big compromises if im thinking right. RF 800 for the lightweight and sigma for the "serious" stuff.