Very great and insightful video! Me and my family are Heading that way this winter, we've been to 45 countries but now we will have a 7 month old!!! Are some of the hikes do able with him?! Is it worth it if we couldn't hike? Thanks! We lived on Maui (Lahaina side) for 4 months sad what is happening there :( thanks for sharing the history.
the Marquesas are NOT a part of Tahiti. two COMPLETELY different groups of Polynesians.... ie the first people to find the Hawaiian Islands were from Nuku Hiva in the Marquesas, they also found Easter Island, they made their 'idols' tiki out of stone..... the 2nd group of people to find Hawaii were invaders from Tahiti about 300 yrs later, they easily took over and killed off all the true Hawaiians the ones from the Marquesas. These 2nd invaders called them 'manahune', meaning 'small worthless person' a 'slave', this was mistranslated as a small person in stature like an 'elf' by the first haole like Cook Vancouver Clerke King Bligh etc.... ps these Tahiti kine 2nd invaders never made their 'idols' out of stone, only wood.... in Hawaii the Marquesas-Hawaiians (1st) cut stones in squares for walls, the Tahitians-Hawaiians (2nd) only stacked stones for walls, very very different... making it easy to tell how old ancient sites are here.... fish hooks diff too, many others too aroha
This sounds like a trope used by invading settlers in order to justify colonialism…I don’t think anyone will ever really know where the Indigenous people of Hawaii or any region originated (unless they have a time machine). Newer linguistic evidence suggests that it is neither the Marquesas or Tahiti, but from outlier atolls off of Bougainville (AROB aka Autonomous Region of Bougainville). “Wilson says he found that East Polynesia settlers originated from small Polynesian outlier islands such as Takuu. They sailed directly east to the Phoenix, Line, and Marquesas Islands, before migrating throughout East Polynesia. These Central Northern Polynesia Outliers are located just off the east coast of the Solomon Islands, and include Takuu, Nukumanu Nukeria, and Luangiua atolls. Wilson proposes the outliers sailed from here to a chain of coral islands and atolls about 1,200 south of Hawaiʻi. Wilson’s research, published this summer in the journal Oceanic Linguistics, lays out a step-by-step development of East Polynesian languages - including Hawaiian - from ancestral languages spoken in the outliers. Wilson says the people of the Northern Line Islands (including Teraina Island and Kiritimati Atoll) are the ancestors of the Hawaiian language. Those from the Southern Line Islands are the ancestors of Tahitian, Rarotonga, and Maori languages. And the Marquesas people are the ancestors of Rapa Nui’s language.” “Wilson also identifies the specific area within that homeland from which the Hawaiian language originated. He has determined that the original settlers of East Polynesia sailed nearly 2,000 miles directly east from the Central Northern Outliers to colonize a formerly uninhabited swath of the Central Pacific stretching some 2,300 miles west to east and some 1,200 miles north to south. This area includes the Phoenix Islands, Line Islands and Marquesas Islands. Wilson said there is evidence that colonists of this area continued to keep in contact with each other. However, the huge distances involved resulted in linguistic differentiation. Wilson does not dismiss a Marquesan connection to Hawaiian language. He provides evidence that although the Marquesas were not the immediate source of the first Hawaiians, the navigational skills of the early East Polynesians resulted in continued contact and the borrowing of some words between different East Polynesian languages.” Excerpts from 2021 articles published by Hawaii public radio and University of Hawaii News. I guess it kind of makes sense to me because Tahitian and Marquesan cultures don’t really remind of Hawaiian. All the groups that the study says are connected to the “southern line” (maybe except Maori) remind me of each other. They have very similar dances and nearly the same regalia. I made a playlist with all of the “Polynesian outlier” groups. th-cam.com/play/PLMC0hpV2UKhLmkEpGRPlf6jl4ZBOpSg-H.html&si=ObuklEt3QQFyJ6hV
BEONDTV, technicality, but only sort of: there's only 1 island of Tahiti, and that's--Tahiti. What you should have said is the islands of French Polynesia, or more specifically, the Society Islands (where Tahiti is located), the Tuamotus, the Marquesas, the Australs and the Gambiers (GAM-be-ehs) in counterclockwise order, and when all put together, you get the 118 islands or so, which you mentioned, that make up that large group. pa-PETE-ee? Papeete is pronounced pa-pay-A-tay, and Marquesan = mar-KAY-sahn, not mark-ASIAN.
@markcurranjr7366, it's very expensive there. However, although I don't remember the details since my visit back in '87, but there's something about watching the labels on the cans. One of the 2 markings on the cans indicates it's expensive, and the other indicates it's cheaper. Sorry I'm late with this info a year after you got back, but maybe it'll help someone else.
@markcurranjr7366, I neglected to respond to the other expense--lodging. Since I was traveling alone, I could stay as cheaply as I wanted. Thus, I mostly stayed in the pensions with local families--sort of like a cheap airbnb, and one night I was on an over water platform with a sheet and mosquito net. Not bad at all, but I've stayed hundreds of nights in a tent, so I was fine with it.
The Marquesas Islands of French Polynesia are home to the indigenous people who speak the Marquesas Language, also known as Marquesan. They also speak French.
Definitely unusual destination. Shes brave but seems to be enamoured by the idea of the survival of the fittest as a ‘good thing’… ( 50-50 survival rate of tattoos was a ‘good’ thing) check out a simple, Wikipedia article islands were also known for human sacrifice inter tribal warfare and polygamy (not big on women’s rights !) although today is identifying as 97% Christian (no mention of the churches built there) oh and no more human sacrifice, phew! but rather a preference for hosting wealthy white tourists instead. History is fascinating ! 😊
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How these yt ppl seeing our islands before we do?! 😂
Very great and insightful video! Me and my family are Heading that way this winter, we've been to 45 countries but now we will have a 7 month old!!! Are some of the hikes do able with him?! Is it worth it if we couldn't hike? Thanks! We lived on Maui (Lahaina side) for 4 months sad what is happening there :( thanks for sharing the history.
Marquesas Islands are part of French Polynesia.
the Marquesas are NOT a part of Tahiti. two COMPLETELY different groups of Polynesians....
ie the first people to find the Hawaiian Islands were from Nuku Hiva in the Marquesas, they also found Easter Island, they made their 'idols' tiki out of stone..... the 2nd group of people to find Hawaii were invaders from Tahiti about 300 yrs later, they easily took over and killed off all the true Hawaiians the ones from the Marquesas. These 2nd invaders called them 'manahune', meaning 'small worthless person' a 'slave', this was mistranslated as a small person in stature like an 'elf' by the first haole like Cook Vancouver Clerke King Bligh etc.... ps these Tahiti kine 2nd invaders never made their 'idols' out of stone, only wood.... in Hawaii the Marquesas-Hawaiians (1st) cut stones in squares for walls, the Tahitians-Hawaiians (2nd) only stacked stones for walls, very very different... making it easy to tell how old ancient sites are here.... fish hooks diff too, many others too
aroha
Ok racist. Nobody cares about the stupid islands
This sounds like a trope used by invading settlers in order to justify colonialism…I don’t think anyone will ever really know where the Indigenous people of Hawaii or any region originated (unless they have a time machine). Newer linguistic evidence suggests that it is neither the Marquesas or Tahiti, but from outlier atolls off of Bougainville (AROB aka Autonomous Region of Bougainville).
“Wilson says he found that East Polynesia settlers originated from small Polynesian outlier islands such as Takuu. They sailed directly east to the Phoenix, Line, and Marquesas Islands, before migrating throughout East Polynesia.
These Central Northern Polynesia Outliers are located just off the east coast of the Solomon Islands, and include Takuu, Nukumanu Nukeria, and Luangiua atolls. Wilson proposes the outliers sailed from here to a chain of coral islands and atolls about 1,200 south of Hawaiʻi.
Wilson’s research, published this summer in the journal Oceanic Linguistics, lays out a step-by-step development of East Polynesian languages - including Hawaiian - from ancestral languages spoken in the outliers.
Wilson says the people of the Northern Line Islands (including Teraina Island and Kiritimati Atoll) are the ancestors of the Hawaiian language. Those from the Southern Line Islands are the ancestors of Tahitian, Rarotonga, and Maori languages. And the Marquesas people are the ancestors of Rapa Nui’s language.”
“Wilson also identifies the specific area within that homeland from which the Hawaiian language originated. He has determined that the original settlers of East Polynesia sailed nearly 2,000 miles directly east from the Central Northern Outliers to colonize a formerly uninhabited swath of the Central Pacific stretching some 2,300 miles west to east and some 1,200 miles north to south. This area includes the Phoenix Islands, Line Islands and Marquesas Islands. Wilson said there is evidence that colonists of this area continued to keep in contact with each other. However, the huge distances involved resulted in linguistic differentiation.
Wilson does not dismiss a Marquesan connection to Hawaiian language. He provides evidence that although the Marquesas were not the immediate source of the first Hawaiians, the navigational skills of the early East Polynesians resulted in continued contact and the borrowing of some words between different East Polynesian languages.”
Excerpts from 2021 articles published by Hawaii public radio and University of Hawaii News.
I guess it kind of makes sense to me because Tahitian and Marquesan cultures don’t really remind of Hawaiian. All the groups that the study says are connected to the “southern line” (maybe except Maori) remind me of each other. They have very similar dances and nearly the same regalia.
I made a playlist with all of the “Polynesian outlier” groups.
th-cam.com/play/PLMC0hpV2UKhLmkEpGRPlf6jl4ZBOpSg-H.html&si=ObuklEt3QQFyJ6hV
BEONDTV, technicality, but only sort of: there's only 1 island of Tahiti, and that's--Tahiti. What you should have said is the islands of French Polynesia, or more specifically, the Society Islands (where Tahiti is located), the Tuamotus, the Marquesas, the Australs and the Gambiers (GAM-be-ehs) in counterclockwise order, and when all put together, you get the 118 islands or so, which you mentioned, that make up that large group.
pa-PETE-ee? Papeete is pronounced pa-pay-A-tay, and Marquesan = mar-KAY-sahn, not mark-ASIAN.
Is it expensive to stay there?
Its expensive to get to there
@markcurranjr7366, it's very expensive there. However, although I don't remember the details since my visit back in '87, but there's something about watching the labels on the cans. One of the 2 markings on the cans indicates it's expensive, and the other indicates it's cheaper. Sorry I'm late with this info a year after you got back, but maybe it'll help someone else.
@markcurranjr7366, I neglected to respond to the other expense--lodging. Since I was traveling alone, I could stay as cheaply as I wanted. Thus, I mostly stayed in the pensions with local families--sort of like a cheap airbnb, and one night I was on an over water platform with a sheet and mosquito net. Not bad at all, but I've stayed hundreds of nights in a tent, so I was fine with it.
Do the locals speak english or spanish or french??
The Marquesas Islands of French Polynesia are home to the indigenous people who speak the Marquesas Language, also known as Marquesan. They also speak French.
You mis pronounced pension. As a place to stay the accent is on the last syllable.
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Definitely unusual destination. Shes brave but seems to be enamoured by the idea of the survival of the fittest as a ‘good thing’… ( 50-50 survival rate of tattoos was a ‘good’ thing) check out a simple, Wikipedia article islands were also known for human sacrifice inter tribal warfare and polygamy (not big on women’s rights !) although today is identifying as 97% Christian (no mention of the churches built there) oh and no more human sacrifice, phew! but rather a preference for hosting wealthy white tourists instead. History is fascinating ! 😊
You must be fun at parties
@@shawnkay5462 why is there a party you need a friend to go with?😉