Zero Clearance Insert Plate for Evolution Rage 5S With Limited tools - Version 2
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- Zero Clearance Insert Plate for Evolution Rage 5S With Limited tools - Version 2
In today's video I'm making a zero clearance plate for my Evolution Rage 5S table saw. This is a second version of the zero clearance plate I made. This time I'm using less tools and the whole process is streamlined and easier.
Hope it will help you in making your own version.
I will be able to make few of those plates and offer them on my Etsy store. They will be made to order and it can take me up to 14 days to make them due to time restrictions I have in my workshop.
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Already been there but I don't see it.
Can you send to indonesia?
@@aaasgar1217 sorry I don't make them anymore
Ordered one of these saws yesterday. This will be one of the first things I'll make. Thank you so much for the videos!
Hopefully it will save you well👍
Awesome job mate! These two videos are an absolute dream as I've been scratching my head about how to replace my Rage 5S insert plate!
Glad that my video was some help👍
If you have a circular saw you can swap the blade in for the inaugural cut
Great video Tomasz, very informative and easy to follow. You should do more tutorials as you are a great tutor.
Thank you kindly 😁👍
Excellent! Nice and easy, and the table saw is even the same as mine! Why had I never thought of using a flush trim bit to match the existing plate? Genius, keep up the good work 👍👍
Hehe thanks mate😁👍
Brilliant, off to the workshop to make a couple of these. Then that floppy plastic thing can go in the bin. 👍👍👍👍👍
Mines redundant, so much better and safer to use the saw now 😁👍
Fantastic job as always thanks for sharing and remember#stay safe and make. 🍺🍺👍👍
Thanks Brian👍😁
You might also consider hot gluing the new plate to the top of the old one in situ so it stands proud. If you clamp it in place then you can raise the spinning blade through both plates thus cutting the top one.
Good tips thanks 👍😁
You're a clever guy. Great video 👍
Thank you
Great stuff Tomasz gonna make one of these now.
Thanks mate, it's definitely worth making 😁👍
Nice way of doing it - especially the locking mechanism. Almost makes me want to do another one straight away :)
Hehe thanks mate
Great video again Tomasz - Just ordered mine! :) Need to find time to use the saw now!
Hehe thank you, I think you will 😉
I would love to see the process of you making your table saw extensions
Worth mentioning that the current plate that ships with the Rage-5S has a little vertical ridge underneath about the width of a lollipop stick. It is shaped to cover a gap under the plate to stop dust getting it. You might like to glue something on that.
Just picked up an Rage 5 table saw last night to add to the Titan pillar drill I've just bought last week. Think I am copying your workshop collection Tomasz. Need to follow a few of your other ideas to create the same jigs,tools, additions for these same tools. Thanks again. Enjoy your builds.
Well these are solid budget tools. Had them for years now and they all still work great. Jigs will only make them better👍
Love this. Very excited to be making on tonight. I even have the bracket and bashed it flat.
Worth making mate
Casual DIY done! My routing needs some practice but it works really well. Now tp make a few more ...
@@MrMikeEdie happy making 👍😁
Another great video Thomasz. The etsy store looks good as well mate 👌
Thanks mate, just need to put more things for sale on it lol😂🤣
09:35 why not start with the plate flipped over and cut the slot in the topside first, then you can flip it over the right way round and cut through the underside, that avoids having to rout the channel in it ;)
The blade doesn't go low enough, even when flipped over it will rest on the blade. However when I'm batching them out I use a different method, that's not as safe hence I did not share it.
@@CasualDIY what is your view on acrylic (perspex) sheet as a zero clearance plate?
@@alheeley it may melt due to temperature made by the spinning blade. But it mat not🤔 worth having a look
Another great design Tomasz. I will happily buy one when they are available on your Etsy ‘store’.
Thanks mate, due to massive interest I had to take it off sale lol. Should come back end of next week when I catch up with current orders👍
That’s good news right? I’m a patient guy so happy to wait.
Hehe I guess it is 😁👍
Great video Tomasz checking Etsy out now. All you need to do now to complete your series on the Rage5s is to make a portable outfeed table
Thanks, you never know it may happen 😉
wkladka zero clearance super sprawa, docenia się dopiero kiedy już się taką miało i znów się nie ma, wtedy czuć tą różnicę i widać jakość oraz czystość cięcia, ja niestety zmieniłem pilarkę na nową i od pół roku brak czasu na jej wykonanie bo masa rzeczy pilniejszych do zrobienia,
Tak skąd ja to znam. Ale się w końcu zmusilem i widzę że warto było 👍
Thank you so much for doing this video.
I live in South Africa and we get almost the exact same table saw just branded a different name.
I have also found the plate insert to be pretty poor and flimsy. I lve actually had the end of the timber, once pushed through the blade, it almost pinches the Timber and angles the cut as the Timber is being pushed in towards the blade.
I will definitely attempt this.
Thamk you again
Thank you so much for watching 👍😁
Hi Tomasz, just tell me how big is the plate hole if you cut on 45 degrees?
Good onya champ, gotta make myself one 👍
Yes it improves the saws performance and safety a lot👍
Great video, thanks. What type of blade are you using on your able saw?
I'm using a Saxton blade and Freud. Saxton is making blades with the correct bore size for Evolution saws
I just found this interesting and I thought you might also. I called evolution's direct line and spoke to one of their sales person and found out that the machine is on back order until August 3rd week of August, I question him about using different blades, he told me if you take the inner flange that holds there blade on and flip it well except a 5/8 blade bore no need for reducers.
Hmm that's interesting I need to check that out thank you 👍😁
Hi Tomas! thank you for this! it was exactly what I needed. I also have evolution table saw but as I am 162cm high, it is quite high for me. is there any way i can lower it down? thansk!
I would just build a cart for it, that would be at a comfortable height to work with for you. So take off the legs and just get a cart of casters.
Used a label engraving material incorporating a layer of Aluminium. This matches the depth required for the plate and has almost no give. Have marked inner and outer edge cutting lines and used it white side up. Have considered safety colors but white works much better in practice. Keep your hand out of the white area whenever the motor can drive, easy. Had problems with alignment of the table flatness and the blade. These were adjusted optimally using the screws above and below inside, now good enough for most jobs. Love your videos, keep them up, excellent worl, many thanks Casual DIY. PS anyone had any ideas for the clearly intentional moulded pieces on the two sides?
That's an interesting approach there.
Thank you kindly for watching my videos 😁👍
I like the way the riving knife just suddenly reappears... poof!
Great idea for the insert plate!
I need to build one myself because the plastic one just broke....
Could you please tell me the size of the little washer you used for the locking mechanism? Is it 10x10 oder 20x20? I can only find 20x20...
Thanks in advance!
Oh can't remember exactly but I think it was 20mm but you have to grind it to correct size.
Hi Tomasz
Where do you buy your wood from in the UK? Is it a local timber merchants you use?
Hi, for sheet materials I got Wickes or B&Q. For other lumber I use my local timber yard. For burls and exotics I either get it from a friend in Poland or use woodwiseuk
Hi do you need to take off the riving knife thing before you cut the slot for the first time??
Yes mate
nice video. tried making a couple without success. As you need to route out the thin lip you really need good quality plywood. I am going to try now with some hardwood which should hopefully bring success. Another thought, how about just getting perspex of the right thinkness and then no routing is needed. Would it be strong enough?
Hmm the perspex could be not thick enough and would bend too easily under pressure plus not sure how it would cope with potential heat build up from the spinning blade. It could become too flexible from the heat generated?
Nice (again)! Where did you get the dust extraction for your sander, please?
Thanks, I bought it in a bundle on eBay years ago. So I don't have any links unfortunately
Brilliant video Thomas very informative,. perhaps instead of glue use double sided tape ( I know Ice mentioned this before, it may be to late to change this demo) perhaps you could do a demo on how to use double sided tape as an alternative to glue . I have used to to hold a few things and I'm 85 and find it difficult to hold stuff with one hand and using a screwdrverdrill in the other due arthritis. I'm going to install a led batten fitting on my shed roof which a step ladder is necessary so I putting double sided tape to where I want it and just push the fitting onto it enabling me to screw it to the roof I'll send images if that is permitted. Thanks for inspiration Mike
Hi and thank you.
Yes double sided tape would work as well. I just don't have any in my workshop🤣
Hopefully Evolution will see this great idea and make one available, a bevel version would be good too
Yes that would be good of them
If you're still interested Evolution are now doing a RAGE5-S Aluminium Throat Plate Upgrade with Zero Clearance Inserts for £29.99. Not sure how long it will be for. Might be a bevel one in the future, who knows.
@@billyboy9141 i see they've let their deal of the deal over run, free insert plate with a rage5-s
@@BestKiteboardingOfficial Yeah it seems like they never had many takers which is why they decided to sell the throat plate on its own. If I had the Rage5-s I might have gone for it even though it's a bit pricey imo.
I am assuming that there is such a large opening in the original insert plate around the blade to allow the blade to be tilted over for bevel cuts. How can you tilt the blade with your zero-clearance insert?
The zero clearance plate is made for straight cuts. For angled ones you would have to make a new plate for required angle.
I have found your channel because i have also recently started using the table circular saw and the miter saw from Evolution.
I am from Germany. I can understand your English very well. What part of the UK are you from? Your dialect is very different from what I learned at school.
I have subscribed to your channel and hope for more interesting videos
Thank you kindly for subscription, welcome aboard 👍😁
I'm actually Polish been in the Middlands area in UK for the last 15 years 👍😁
Hi just wondered if you fancy doing a router insert plate for the rage 5 s would be interesting to see what you can come up with Thomas. Rage 5s is very rare at the moment and i plan to purchase one from machine mart on the 16 of June 2021 when they are being restocked at £289.00
Yes a router attachment for the Rage 5S is on my agenda. I heard its hard to get and the price went up as well.
Hi Tomasz. I went to your shop page and saw some reviews on the ZCP but I could not see a price shown. I'm going to grab myself an Evo-Rage 5s in the coming weeks and after seeing your reviews [I have a new shed build planned for the summer], I thought it might be prudent to grab a decent ZCP..
Rugby huh, not too far from me :)
Yes I moved to Poland and still don't have a workshop so unfortunately at the moment I can't make any more plates sorry 😢
Do you get much flex out of the fence?
I get no flex at all on the fence mate.
Great job mate. Your store is sold out of them though!
Thanks mate, yes it is until I catch up with the current orders. I will let people know when they will be back. Just had too many orders lol
Hi Tomasz, I have just looked at your Etsy store but unfortunately there are none available, will you be making some more in the near future?
Hmm probably end of June/ beginning of July 👍
Thomas Thank you for the insert plate i ordered from your Etsy store. I'm very pleased.
is there any chance you can do a video on a Evolution Table Saw Tune Up.
Thank you, glad you happy with it. If it's not much to ask could you drop me a positive rating on my Etsy store then please? It really helps a lot👍 yes there will be a video on that just gathering all the materials on this as there's few things people are interested how to adjust with this saw and I want to cover all of them 👍
@@CasualDIY Done it mate. Thanks
@@joelprinciple7519 thank you so much 👍😁
Tomaszu a gdzie można kupić oryginalną plastikową wkładkę. W Polsce są z tym problemy
Hmm z pewnością na ich stronie z UK. Nie wie czy wysłali by bezpośrednio do PL. Ale warto też spróbować na polskim Amazon. Jednak ja bym polecał zrobić swoją 😅
Great Videos... Your all sold out of the clearance plates how do get on the order list, also I would purchase a sled if your willing to build me one.. Thank you...
Lou
Thank you very much. The zero clearance plates will be back for sale on my Etsy store in August. I will do some posts on my social media when that happens 👍
With regards the sled I think the postage cost would be a killer 🤣
I made one of these but instead of the lugs and locking mechanism I just drilled a hole through the wooden plate and the metal lip underneath tapped the hole in the metal lip with a 4mm tap and fitted a 4mm machine screw through it. Better still would be for Evolution or any manufacture to supply a zero clearance plate as well as the original. I can't think why they don't??? Thank you Tomasz. Great video as usual.
That's actually a good idea, much easier to do as well I think.
Thank you very much😁👍
Stay safe
@@CasualDIY Even less tools! ... 🤣
Cudos for making this with limited amount of tools, nlike others on you tube
Thanks 😁👍
These plates will only work when the blade is at 90 degrees I guess, so for angled cuts you’d go back to the original?
You would have to make a separate plate for each angle. However I have only used 45 degrees so I would only need an extra plate
I've watched several of your videos about the Rage-5 saw. All well done! I do have a question for you regarding the saw itself.
Have you attempted to use a dado blade with the saw? I emailed Evolution and they said there isn't a plate available for it to do dado'. Won't be a problem to create one, I don't think using your technique. But was curious to know if you've used the saw itself for any dado work. If so, how'd it turn out?
Thanks and stay safe!
Dado blades are a tricky subject in the EU. I think for general use they are actually banned. Only industrial saws are made to be able to take dado blades. So no never used a dado stack. Something I feel very jelouse of our USA friends👍
Hi. There's an American TH-camr "DIY with Uncle Cy" who uses a 1/4 inch Dado stack on a Rage 5S. The arbour is too short to support anything else apparently. He still loves the saw though.
I tried again, but I think the wood I am using is to hard. Sapele, as saw just pushes the wood up and won't cut it at all. Will have to make one out of pine.
That should not be a problem. Maybe the blade is really dull?
Hi Tomas great video mate, could u make an insert for the mitre saw aswell? I can't find a video for that 👍
Hehe I've not made one yet as I can't take the original plate off. Not sure how it's mounted on that mitre saw. Some sort of clips I guess but so far I only manage to break the plate slightly so I stopped trying to take it off.
@@CasualDIY lol yes that's my story to, thought u mite of found a way, ah well we keep trying 🤪👍 merry Xmas mate
@@allanmorgan8056 merry Christmas mate 👍
Hello Thomas. I would like to ask/sugest if you can do a video of a zero clearance insert plate for your Evolution Miter Saw. Thank you. Regards from Portugal.
Hi, yes that video is on my "to do" list😁👍
@@CasualDIY hello again Thomas. Any update about the date of that video? Really looking forward to learn. Thank you
@@pasaraiva hi, I started to make it but I can't take off the original plate. It started to brake as I was pulling it away. So I left it be. Did you managed to take it off?
@@CasualDIY Oh sorry to know thst. I will try to understand how to remove. Thank you
Here's a thought, virtually every youtube channel that features a table saw recommends making a zero clearance insert. So why don't the saw manufacturers supply them as standard? At the maunufacturer level they would cost pennies to make. Evolution even sells one no as an accessory, albeit at an inflated £30.
Would be great.
Not zero clearance, but I took the flex out of the cheap stock plate by gluing some threaded bar in the slots in bottom to make it more ridged.
If it works for you then great 👍
Zero clearance like yours will come but quick and easy solution to the flexing issue in the mean time while getting going.
@@josephtrice-rolph4835 yes the flex is really bad and anything to help with that is a must I think
Hello, I see a couple of days ago that you were selling zero clearance for rage 5 s... Is it still available? I recently got the rable saw but I'm a little afraid to do one, I look your video a lot about it... Thank you, and take care...
Hi, they will be available in the first week of August 👍😁
I'll post it on my social media when exactly they will be back in my Etsy store 👍
@@CasualDIY thanks!!!
Do you sell the zero clearance as well
Not at the moment sorry.
You had to remove the riving knife, before raising the saw to cut the slot. Should show how to do that.
There is just one bolt holding the knife, didn't think that was worth showing as its very simple to do. But maybe it would be beneficial to some.
Tomasz are you still making these as I couldn't see it on your Etsy page? If you are I'd really like to order one.
Hi mate, just going through last orders. They should be back on my store from 09.09.20 👍
Just rechecked Etsy & still not available?
They been and sold out in a day mate. I'm amazed how quick they are going. Not sure when I will put them on sale again. Very short on time nowadays.
I'd like one, are you shipping out to USA?
Sorry not making them anymore
@@CasualDIY I'll pay you double if you're make one for me, I have absolutely no time to do one... Thanks
Lou
Hi, I realise that this is an older Video so just to inform you if you are not aware, the Etsy link is not working, at least not here in France.
Hi, I'm just not selling them currently.
Will the zero clearance plates be available again please
They will but after the New year. I'm in a middle of move between countries at the moment.
@@CasualDIY please let me know when ,good luck with the move
Do you have any zero plates for sale, i just purchased the Rage saw.
Hi, yes you can order them on my Etsy store 👍😁
@@CasualDIY does this item ship to the United States.
@@louisgaccione7794 unfortunately this item does not dispatch to US
Hello Tomasz, I dont understand why on earth is it that the rage 5s didn't make a table saw that can take metal sliders like go with other tab saws,
Same here mate
Maybe i make my own top using all the other fitments ? lol certainly going to be looking into the possibility
Nothing in your Etsy store unfortunately - please let me know where I can order one! 😁
Not making then anymore unfortunately. However I heard that Evolution themselves offer one now. Worth checking out
@@CasualDIY I’ve already looked into that - however unfortunately sold out! Thank you anyways! Appreciate it!
Looking at this. Is there nobody that can 3D print a zero clearance plate?
There are but they are very expensive unfortunately
Do you still offer zero insert plates for rage 5 table saw? Can't see it in your store.
Hi mate. Had to take it off my Etsy store as had too many orders and I'm holidays from next week till end of the month. They will come back to sale in first week of August. I'll let everyone know on my social media when they will be available again 👍
OK thank you.
I can't see the point of a zero clearance insert - I really enjoy poking out the scraps with a screwdriver every fifteen seconds. (I keep meaning to make one of these, so thanks for your tips.)
Worth making mate 👍
Hi . Nice job as usual. Because I have not router, can I have one from you already made, please? I can paid via Paypal or bank account. Just tell me how much.Thanks
Check out the link to my Etsy store, you can get one there👍
There’s no option to buy on Etsy anymore 😢
Unfortunately I'm not making them anymore
should have used a nylock nut instead of glue
that is actually a way better idea and I got a whole box of them... thanks I will swap it around when the glue gives way.
what is the point of him doing these videos and advertising his etsy chanel regarding these inserts i click the link to ask him how much does he sell them for i sent him messages about 5days ago and he hasnt biothered messaging me back i thik that is bad of him im not a happy chappy with him now so i wont be contating him again no point anymore thanks alot tomas you should remove your contact on etsy
Well have you bothered to check how mamy years ago this video was made? Maybe just maybe after so many years my Etsy store is no longer active. And no, I don't make those inserts anymore. And I don't get any notifications from Etsy as I have nothing to sell on it currently. So maybe rather than venting your frustrations on a comment section on TH-cam you could just take the same amount of time and drop me an email with a question, rather then just running with some "assumptions". And no I'm will not delete the links as they are in few hundreds of my videos. And usually people if they can't reach me somewhere they just email me. All the best 👍