Hey Leo, I finally broke down and got a tablesaw, and I'm going through your vids for some 1 armed table saw tips . . . But it seems that a left and a right arm might have some fairly distinct differences in technique. So, do you know any full-time righties out there? I could use some technique visuals getting started. Thanks again brother!
Hello Matt, good to hear from you pal and yes I noticed you’ve gone for a table saw. Sorry to hear about the flat bed issues and hope you get it sorted out. In terms of table saw usage for a righty, you might be as well reaching out to James @OneHandedMaker in Australia. He is a fellow one hander and right arm too. Here is a link to his chess board video that you can catch a little bit of his table saw use. Great guy as well 👍. th-cam.com/video/CLxnC3R1gok/w-d-xo.htmlsi=f7laB4Up3frqFRw4
Just ordered mine Leo. I love my Rage 5S too. This just about completes it! I did look at Evolution for something like this but I couldn't see anything. I think this will keep this old geezer a bit safer. I am 70 at the end of the month and the fam want me to give up power tools. They have two hopes. No hope and Bob Hope! 😂😈😂
😂😂😂Nice one Pete. Enjoy your 70th as best you can in the current circumstances. I just think it’s great that you find a product that is very reasonably priced, something that will be a great help and also supports small independent makers👍👍😀😀
I thought the same thing when I bought my Rage5S so designed and 3D printed my own. If you have access to a 3D printer jump in Thingiverse.com and search for Rage5S to find my free model. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
Hi Leo, my Evolution 5 S, which is 5 years old now, came with a kill switch attached as standard. I can't understand why they did away with it? However, the one demonstrated seems to be a must have accessory and works really well.
Crazy to think in the design tweaks and midlife upgrade they decide to do away with the most important safety component on the saw, especially considering where the on / off switch is 😳😳🤷♂️🤷♂️
Hallow mate. just saw your vid & subbed. My 5-s is just out of storage. i'm a one handed hobbyist & ready to crack on. I couldnt bare to sell it😉. catch you lata Brian D.
Apologies I don’t know whether it will or not tbh. What I will say is the mitre slots on the Rage 5-S are certainly ‘non-standard’ so I’d be inclined to say no. If you do find out the answer though please let me know so I can share with others 👍👍
Great accessory pal. You know how much I like this table saw and the only major niggle for me is the on / off switch, but Stu has designed a simple great accessory that fixes this problem 👍👍
Hello Matt, I replied to your original message on this video with someone who might be able to help you. If you search your original comment on this video you’ll find my reply 😀😀👍👍
Great video ! Iǘe heard a 30% decrease of motor rpm when you cut the wood, so the table saw its not as powerful as skilsaw or other major brands, thanks !! 🏆🏆🏆
I’m no expert in any way pal, but my understanding is this. You are ok with just the main king fence if cutting sheet goods like MDF, Ply, OSB etc because they are pretty square. The smaller fence (fixed to the main fence half way ish along to the blade) should be used for cutting timber as the natural variance in shape could cause the timber to pinch against the fence increasing the risk of kickback. With the smaller fence attached (and the riving knife fitted of course) it gives the timber space after the cut reducing the risk of kick back 👍👍
Thanks for your efforts there. Its nice to find so many owners agreeing about this design issue. I have owned mine since late last year & I spotted this failing first time out with the saw. At £12 & P/P its a no brainer. Wish you had posted this 24hrs ago because I spent a couple of hours in my garage today making something quite similar. But for the price of £12, I would of ordered one straight off. Great channel ................ please keep going.
Thanks Rich. Brilliant simple concept that really does improve the operation and safety of this saw, and as you say for £12 it really is a no brainer, plus it is helping to support an independent maker here in the U.K. 👍👍
Good evening hope you are doing well, sorry but i missed this video at the time of release, iwould firstly like to say how much i admire what you do with just one hand that most folk would find hard to do with both.Anyway enough of blowing smoke you know where lol,just to let you know i totally agree with your comments, i have the same table saw and think its one of my best purchases for my small workshop, letting you know i purchased the Stop flap today on the back of your video and its on sale at £10.20 from the link you gave, many thanks and keep up the fantastic videos.All the best my friend.
Hello Neil, thank you for your very kind and supportive comments which are genuinely appreciated. The kill switch is such a simple design and certainly makes the saw so much easier and safer to use👍👍👍. Best wishes, Leo 😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft Thanks for the reply Leo,can i just add to this please ,i sent the chap (Stu) a message on Etsy to say how pleased i was with the item and quick delivery and just added a suggestion of making them Orange to match, two days later an Orange one landed at my door at no cost, well happy, thanks again for the find.Ps i have watched a couple of review videos on the saw and they come with the guard,'ve sent Evolution an Email to this effect, lets see if i get a reply. Regards Neil
I made a dead man pedal... like a sewing machine type thing lol... I use it when I'm working with any powered saws or grinders also on the pilar drill and lathe/milling machines... but also have power kill switches close by to most machinery
Great idea Ryan. Someone suggested this for my planer thicknesser as I work around the back of it as I push the wood through with my left arm so I’m the other side of the kill switch if that makes sense. Need to come up with an idea that won’t invalidate my warranty on it 👍
@@Hand-i-Craft yep... all of my pedals are plug and play and the dead man switches are in line before the mains socket, therefore will isolate a particular double power outlet that supplies the tool. No warranties invalidated.
AHH man! I didn't know (or think to look on Etsy) for one of these. Mine came with one fitted but it broke off the other month, I've been meaning to to 3D print one my self, cus a replacement part is about £30 odd pound!
Interesting that James as I knew yours was one of the earlier ones and mine didn’t have one at all! Not great to skimp on the safety side when they’ve modified the design slightly. It’s a great find, simple effective design and it’s great to support a guy who’s just a small independent maker as well👍👍
Nice addition to the saw Leo. I have the dewalt 745 and have the same issue. I know Paul Taylor had designed the wooden version of that that I have seen on Keith's and others channel. Will take a look for one for my model 😁👍
Nice one Suj. In reality they should be factory fitted, but great that Stu has developed the solution and he is an independent U.K. maker so hopefully he’ll make a few quid from it👍😀
Hi Suj I’m currently working on a design for the earlier dewalt 745 model. If you follow me on Etsy or Facebook spwoodcreations they will be released soon. 👍
This is my exact biggest issue with the saw to, thank you for this video! As a fellow Rage 5-s owner can I ask, do you ever get blade 'wobble' while cutting? I've had this a few times where pieces have been ruined halfway through a cut, despite everything being tight and set up square too.
Nice one Andy, well worth purchasing and great to support a U.K. independent maker👍👍. Mmmm, the wobble. I’ve never had ‘side to side’ wobble so to speak before, but I have on occasion encountered ‘forwards to backwards’ slight wobble when I’ve been pushing something through but that didn’t affect the quality of the cut🤷♂️
I get a blade wobble it's about 2mm out I thought it was the blade at first but bought a new blade and it's the same, I am in the process of contacting evolution about it
The very first thing I added to my Rage5S, I have my own 3D printer so it was easy to do, another good addition is to fit a soft start makes it much more pleasant to use, have you considered using featherboards to add a little pressure both down and on the side of the workpiece I would be a little concerned regarding kickback due to operating the saw with one hand, the featherboards should decrease the possibility of this
I am getting really bloody confused by all the reviews I watch. I want a table saw for basically the sole purpose of cutting 3.75 inch and 4 inch wide wood into 1 inch pieces to make trellises .These pieces would be 2,4 to 3m before being ripped.Should I get a cheap saw or would people say this one is a good buy for that purpose? Great video by the way.
Cheers for the message and apologies for the late reply. I suppose it all boils down to budget pal, but what I have said is I think this Rage 5-S is the best value for money saw and yes it’d have no problem doing the jobs you need it to 👍
Hi Leo Love your honest video's. I along with a lot of your followers noticed this flaw as soon as it arrived. I did see on one other 18 month old vid the chap had a kill switch, when mine arrived i thought they have gone backwards. Yes i too have ordered a kill switch from France. Question. Every time i turn my saw on there is a very loud kerlunk sound.( is that a word?) Is this the lack of a soft start system that causes the saw to "jump hence the sound" My evolution drop saw does not make this sound so i am wondering. Have written to Evolution but as of yet no response. Keep up the GREAT work.
Thanks Stepan for your kind comments. Yes mine also makes a kind of kerlunk sound when it fires up, could be because it doesn’t have a slow start feature🤷♂️. The kill switch is great for this, much safer to use once installed 👍
Nice accessory! I think I'll be buying one of them at some point. It's definitely an issue that needs to be overcome and £12+postage isn't too bad. Many times I've experienced the same thing in situations as you demonstrated where I've been switching it off and cringing because I'm yet to get rid of the cut piece to the side of the blade. It could get jiggled into the teeth and become a projectile that goes directly to the face. Someone from the comfort of a sofa or bed will read this and say we should always clear the blade before going in front of the blade but in reality we all do it from time to time.
It’s well worth it Andy. It really does make it safer to use. As much as we think about safe practice sometimes our guard drops. At least with this you don’t have to think about dropping your head to saw height anymore!
Yea definitely. As it stands you've really got to get your head down there to look for it whereas with this I bet you could just feel for it and keep your eye on the blade until it's off.
great vid. Bought one of these off the back of your recommedation. Works a treat. One question on the saw though. How are finding the dust collections now you've used it for a while. I bought a better Vac and it still chucks dust everywhere.
Thanks Andrew, very good addition to the saw. I have to say the dust collection is awful and I have it set up to a decent M class extractor. Table saws in general aren’t great for dust collection unless you spend the big bucks, but this is a big negative of the Rage 5-S
I'll second that, an extension kill switch accessory for any table saw is an absolute must!👌🏽 I made one for my table saw about 155mm longer to the right, so I can hit it with my knee, as well. Good advice mate, and even better upgrade. 👍🏽 Nudging 4K subscribers, woo hoo😉
I’ll 3rd that Bill, even though the Evolution brand never considered this as yet I love the fact that some clever soul has created something to help out all users of these Tablesaws 🔨👍👍👍
@@sumosprojects For sure, Sumo. Incredible what these guys with their own 3D printers come up with. Wish I knew someone who had one, I need a few things printed... I had considered buying a cheap small one just to see if it could turn into something, but I've bought a laser engraver CNC and don't really have room for it. In the process of mounting it to the ceiling via a small 250kg electric hoist....
Great find, Very useful... Just one thing I will be implementing. I'll be fastening it on with screws. I could see the adhesive strip failing at exactly the point where it's needed, when you're in a blind Emergency panic ?
I suppose what you’re saying is possible, but with the correct cleaning and surface preparation I couldn’t see it happening. Would screwing it in invalidate the warranty 🤷♂️
My understanding Jules is Evolution used to supply this table saw with that type of kill switch, but when they updated it the kill switch was gone 😳. Madness
Just found this video today even tho I thought I had seen them all. Ordered from this guy on eBay. Looks like something that should be fitted as standard.
Totally agree Pas that this should be standard, especially considering the location of the on/off switch! Stu has come up with a great aftermarket solution though so well worth the purchase and also supporting a small independent maker 👍👍
Hi, thanks for the video. I have recently bought a Rage 5 and think it is great except for that fiddly "on /ff" switch so I amgoing to order one of kill switch those accessories right now !
Nice one John. Stu has come up with a great design that is well priced and certainly makes the Rage5-S easier and safer to use. Glad you’ve bought one and helping an independent U.K. maker👍👍👍
What a neat idea, thanks Leo. On mine I'm using a NVR switch with a double socket (nicked from my B&Q router table), this knocks off saw plus extraction. Definitely getting one of these paddles. Great demonstration. Keep safe.
Thanks Leo. On your original review I bought the Rage 5 and like you very happy except for the off switch style and location. Thanks for the info on the aftermarket attachment which I have bought and fitted. It just makes the saw feel so much safer
Thanks Denis and yes great to see Stu doing well with his Evolution accessories. Been using my Rage 5 most of this morning to rip hardwood slats and it is so much easier and safer with the kill switch 👍👍
Hiya Leo. I noticed this, or a very similar item popped up when browsing insta at the weekend. I think it's a brilliant idea. Congrats to the person that designed it.
Totally agree Gary. Was happy to put this out there as the designer (Stu) is an independent hobbyist maker really so to promote a great product by a U.K. based independent maker is something I’m more than happy to do. Kind of reminds me a little of Karl ‘Strawbyte’s’ waste side jig in that it is so simple in design but also so effective 👍👍😀😀
Hi, my right extension table is a bit below the table top. I only see a spring rod (?) And a nut (beside the two nuts for adjusting the back ruler). Any idea how to raise the ext table a bit?
@@Hand-i-Craft i meant right! Sorry Leo. So if I put a bit of pressure on either side (downwards on the left or upwards on the right) it will level the right extension table. It is only a few mm now but it is there and bothers me a wee bit.
@@Hand-i-Craft the left and center is level. So I assumed the right is not (by only a few mm though). There's a play but no nuts to fix , there is a white plastic thingy inside the ruler rails though. Maybe it deformed 🤔
Ok got it. I hope. The spring rods on both ends serves as extended wing table lever adjustment. After adjusting, the wing now tighter. And you are right: top is too high! Adjust the 2 screws on the lever and voila. Now happy camper. Thanks Leo.
Interesting piece of ki at a sensible price. Good to hear from you, looking forward to more on the workshop build when the weather gets a bit warmer I guess.
Started back on the workshop today Mike. The flooring arrived so I’ve been shifting it and spraying it with a treatment before 🤞 starting to lay it tomorrow👍👍
This is weird. I have an older version of this saw (with the slightly less good dust guard) and it already has this kind of on off switch. (eg the version in the image here masseys-diy.co.uk/product/evolution-rage5-multi-purpose-table-saw-255mm/ ) Frustrating that Evolution would make an update that is so obviously a downgrade...
My understanding of this Alastair is yes on the earlier version it did have a kill switch but was quite flimsy and broke easily. So their apparent solution to this was to get rid of it altogether 😳
I reckon with a single piece of wood or bar you could connect the handle ends to each other so that it can be moved more easily with one hand by putting pressure in the middle of the machine rather than at one side or the other. I shortened my handles for a reduced footprint when open, but in your situation I'd leave them full length for max leverage with one hand but I'd definitely connect them.
I saw your video Andy about trimming the handles and it was a great solution to your quandary. Thought about putting a bar across as I done it with a wheelbarrow and it worked a treat!
Oh yes I recall that now you mention it! Definitely sounds like a plan. Not sure about you but I don't tend to get the saw out that often and tend to use it when I'm doing loads of cuts in one go. I got a couple of bargains recently! New Makita 4350FCT (jigsaw) for £90 and new Makita KP0810K (planer) for £120! Turns out a decent jigsaw is so much better than the Aldi ones I've used in the past. A world apart in accuracy and blade drift.
That’s great Leo. What you now need is the addition of a soft start module from Amazon £20. See Casual DIY on you tube massive difference. Just fitted one to my old cheapo Table Saw👍
Thanks Ashley, tbh I’ve decommissioned the table saw now. Since getting the MFT setup with the rail hinge, I find that much easier and safer to use than the table saw. The only thing missing is being able to cut long rips of hardwood, which I’m looking at a larger bandsaw for👍👍
just bought the evolution r255 and yes the on off button was a nightmare to find when needed in a hurry but thanks for the heads up on this and have just ordered one congrats for letting us know about this product
Thanks for the message👍. Yes it’s such a simple yet effective solution. Great addition to your table saw and also supporting a independent small business 😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft just received the emergency stop paddle and must say it a snug fit and quick and easy to operate a must have for anyone with these types of table saws thanks again to you Leo and Stu for your design
Hi Leo, I always watch your videos simply because they are so inspirational. I often pick up tricks that are just as useful to cack handed two armers like me as well. Keep them coming and good luck with the workshop build. I hope it gets warmer soon as we are coming back from France in a few weeks and it isn't inviting in UK at the moment. WKR Mike
Thanks Michael. It’s starting to warm up a little bit during the day now👍. Been doing some work prepping the flooring this weekend which has been great. Feel like it is getting back on track now 😀😀👍👍
My understanding Ray on the earlier version they had a ‘type’ of kill switch which easily snapped off so I’m guessing when they updated it they decided to get rid of it altogether 😳😳🤷♂️🤷♂️
Great job evolution...make a safety feature less safe. Replacement looks fab and more importantly functional! Even a good solid big red button (see big Clive's button for his brother ralfy for the sort of thing i mean) would have been better than the manufacturer removing it entirely.
Great addition to your saw i have the Dewalt 745 and have exactly the same issue it is a bad design doesn't seem to matter how much you use the saw you can never seem to find the off switch without looking for it.👍
Cheers Rasmo. I’ve seen a few makers on TH-cam with the Dewalt and they have a nice chunky aftermarket wooden ‘paddle’ over the off button in effect creating a kill switch. Haven’t seen one for the evolution so when I came across this I was very happy to purchase one👍👍
Hi Rasmo I’m currently working on a design for the earlier dewalt 745 model. If you follow me on Etsy or Facebook spwoodcreations they will be released soon. 👍
@@Hand-i-Craft i have seriously been considering one of these table saws but have many hmms 🤔 about them, now thats one hmm less, thank you, liked and sub'd.
Hey Leo, I finally broke down and got a tablesaw, and I'm going through your vids for some 1 armed table saw tips . . . But it seems that a left and a right arm might have some fairly distinct differences in technique.
So, do you know any full-time righties out there? I could use some technique visuals getting started.
Thanks again brother!
Hello Matt, good to hear from you pal and yes I noticed you’ve gone for a table saw. Sorry to hear about the flat bed issues and hope you get it sorted out. In terms of table saw usage for a righty, you might be as well reaching out to James @OneHandedMaker in Australia. He is a fellow one hander and right arm too. Here is a link to his chess board video that you can catch a little bit of his table saw use. Great guy as well 👍. th-cam.com/video/CLxnC3R1gok/w-d-xo.htmlsi=f7laB4Up3frqFRw4
Just ordered mine Leo. I love my Rage 5S too. This just about completes it! I did look at Evolution for something like this but I couldn't see anything. I think this will keep this old geezer a bit safer. I am 70 at the end of the month and the fam want me to give up power tools. They have two hopes. No hope and Bob Hope! 😂😈😂
😂😂😂Nice one Pete. Enjoy your 70th as best you can in the current circumstances. I just think it’s great that you find a product that is very reasonably priced, something that will be a great help and also supports small independent makers👍👍😀😀
I thought the same thing when I bought my Rage5S so designed and 3D printed my own.
If you have access to a 3D printer jump in Thingiverse.com and search for Rage5S to find my free model.
Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
Nice one, thanks for the message John. I’m not a 3D printer man (yet) but cheers for the heads up. Best wishes, Leo 😀👍
Bought one. Really makes a difference. ✅
Nice one Ian 👍👍😀😀
The glue on mine just failed. Have you reglued yours on. Did you use CA glue or screws?
@@ianpowolny6455 I can’t remember off the top of my head Ian. Think maybe a couple of dabs of CA glue 👍
Hi Leo, my Evolution 5 S, which is 5 years old now, came with a kill switch attached as standard. I can't understand why they did away with it? However, the one demonstrated seems to be a must have accessory and works really well.
Crazy to think in the design tweaks and midlife upgrade they decide to do away with the most important safety component on the saw, especially considering where the on / off switch is 😳😳🤷♂️🤷♂️
Hallow mate. just saw your vid & subbed. My 5-s is just out of storage. i'm a one handed hobbyist & ready to crack on. I couldnt bare to sell it😉. catch you lata Brian D.
Nice one Brian, thanks for the sub and hope you enjoy the videos 😀😀👍👍
Hi , would you know if the (Wnew Mitre Gauge) would fit the Rage s5? Thank's.
Apologies I don’t know whether it will or not tbh. What I will say is the mitre slots on the Rage 5-S are certainly ‘non-standard’ so I’d be inclined to say no. If you do find out the answer though please let me know so I can share with others 👍👍
This problemhas bugged me since I've had the saw. Thanks mate
No worries Cj, glad it was of some help 👍👍
Definitely an essential bit of kit Leo in my opinion and for a few quid definitely worth the investment.
Great accessory pal. You know how much I like this table saw and the only major niggle for me is the on / off switch, but Stu has designed a simple great accessory that fixes this problem 👍👍
Leo, I'm trying to find a right-handed only table saw user. I'm having trouble getting my technique down.
Anyone you know?
Hello Matt, I replied to your original message on this video with someone who might be able to help you. If you search your original comment on this video you’ll find my reply 😀😀👍👍
@Hand-i-Craft hahaaa... thank you. I have the memory of a goldfish.
Great little bit of kit, thanks for that 👍
@@pauldredge2630 You’re welcome 😀👍
Great video ! Iǘe heard a 30% decrease of motor rpm when you cut the wood, so the table saw its not as powerful as skilsaw or other major brands, thanks !! 🏆🏆🏆
Thank you 😀😀👍👍
got one a while ago, but glued it on as kept falling off , all fine now
At least you know it’s solidly fixed now 👍👍
That little fence attached to the big fence should it be used all the time?
I’m no expert in any way pal, but my understanding is this. You are ok with just the main king fence if cutting sheet goods like MDF, Ply, OSB etc because they are pretty square. The smaller fence (fixed to the main fence half way ish along to the blade) should be used for cutting timber as the natural variance in shape could cause the timber to pinch against the fence increasing the risk of kickback. With the smaller fence attached (and the riving knife fitted of course) it gives the timber space after the cut reducing the risk of kick back 👍👍
Thanks for your efforts there. Its nice to find so many owners agreeing about this design issue. I have owned mine since late last year & I spotted this failing first time out with the saw. At £12 & P/P its a no brainer. Wish you had posted this 24hrs ago because I spent a couple of hours in my garage today making something quite similar. But for the price of £12, I would of ordered one straight off.
Great channel ................ please keep going.
Thanks Rich. Brilliant simple concept that really does improve the operation and safety of this saw, and as you say for £12 it really is a no brainer, plus it is helping to support an independent maker here in the U.K. 👍👍
Good evening hope you are doing well, sorry but i missed this video at the time of release, iwould firstly like to say how much i admire what you do with just one hand that most folk would find hard to do with both.Anyway enough of blowing smoke you know where lol,just to let you know i totally agree with your comments, i have the same table saw and think its one of my best purchases for my small workshop, letting you know i purchased the Stop flap today on the back of your video and its on sale at £10.20 from the link you gave, many thanks and keep up the fantastic videos.All the best my friend.
Hello Neil, thank you for your very kind and supportive comments which are genuinely appreciated. The kill switch is such a simple design and certainly makes the saw so much easier and safer to use👍👍👍. Best wishes,
Leo 😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft Thanks for the reply Leo,can i just add to this please ,i sent the chap (Stu) a message on Etsy to say how pleased i was with the item and quick delivery and just added a suggestion of making them Orange to match, two days later an Orange one landed at my door at no cost, well happy, thanks again for the find.Ps i have watched a couple of review videos on the saw and they come with the guard,'ve sent Evolution an Email to this effect, lets see if i get a reply.
Regards Neil
I made a dead man pedal... like a sewing machine type thing lol... I use it when I'm working with any powered saws or grinders also on the pilar drill and lathe/milling machines... but also have power kill switches close by to most machinery
Great idea Ryan. Someone suggested this for my planer thicknesser as I work around the back of it as I push the wood through with my left arm so I’m the other side of the kill switch if that makes sense. Need to come up with an idea that won’t invalidate my warranty on it 👍
@@Hand-i-Craft yep... all of my pedals are plug and play and the dead man switches are in line before the mains socket, therefore will isolate a particular double power outlet that supplies the tool. No warranties invalidated.
AHH man! I didn't know (or think to look on Etsy) for one of these. Mine came with one fitted but it broke off the other month, I've been meaning to to 3D print one my self, cus a replacement part is about £30 odd pound!
Interesting that James as I knew yours was one of the earlier ones and mine didn’t have one at all! Not great to skimp on the safety side when they’ve modified the design slightly. It’s a great find, simple effective design and it’s great to support a guy who’s just a small independent maker as well👍👍
Nice addition to the saw Leo. I have the dewalt 745 and have the same issue. I know Paul Taylor had designed the wooden version of that that I have seen on Keith's and others channel. Will take a look for one for my model 😁👍
Nice one Suj. In reality they should be factory fitted, but great that Stu has developed the solution and he is an independent U.K. maker so hopefully he’ll make a few quid from it👍😀
Hi Suj I’m currently working on a design for the earlier dewalt 745 model. If you follow me on Etsy or Facebook spwoodcreations they will be released soon. 👍
I now do a stop paddle for the dw745 suj 👍
This is my exact biggest issue with the saw to, thank you for this video!
As a fellow Rage 5-s owner can I ask, do you ever get blade 'wobble' while cutting? I've had this a few times where pieces have been ruined halfway through a cut, despite everything being tight and set up square too.
Nice one Andy, well worth purchasing and great to support a U.K. independent maker👍👍. Mmmm, the wobble. I’ve never had ‘side to side’ wobble so to speak before, but I have on occasion encountered ‘forwards to backwards’ slight wobble when I’ve been pushing something through but that didn’t affect the quality of the cut🤷♂️
I get a blade wobble it's about 2mm out I thought it was the blade at first but bought a new blade and it's the same, I am in the process of contacting evolution about it
Great video. Thank you.. I can also recommend a soft start module.. They are for sale on ebay or amazon for u nder £20
Cheers for the message. Yes I saw the soft start video Tomas done on his casual DIY channel and it has me interested 👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft me to. So I got one and fitted it.. Well worth the effort
The very first thing I added to my Rage5S, I have my own 3D printer so it was easy to do, another good addition is to fit a soft start makes it much more pleasant to use, have you considered using featherboards to add a little pressure both down and on the side of the workpiece I would be a little concerned regarding kickback due to operating the saw with one hand, the featherboards should decrease the possibility of this
Thanks John and yes something I need to consider for future use 👍👍😀😀
thanks for sharing
Cheers Phil 😀👍
I am getting really bloody confused by all the reviews I watch. I want a table saw for basically the sole purpose of cutting 3.75 inch and 4 inch wide wood into 1 inch pieces to make trellises .These pieces would be 2,4 to 3m before being ripped.Should I get a cheap saw or would people say this one is a good buy for that purpose? Great video by the way.
Cheers for the message and apologies for the late reply. I suppose it all boils down to budget pal, but what I have said is I think this Rage 5-S is the best value for money saw and yes it’d have no problem doing the jobs you need it to 👍
@@Hand-i-Craft 175 quid second hand one is now in my posession.Am excited and a bit nervy of using it but thats life.
@@TheEssexSpurs Good luck with it pal. Hope it works out well for you 👍👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft Thank you.I'll do a video and get 200 thousand hits start my own Channel go on CNN News.....
Nice one mate
Cheers David 😀👍
Hi Leo Love your honest video's. I along with a lot of your followers noticed this flaw as soon as it arrived. I did see on one other 18 month old vid the chap had a kill switch, when mine arrived i thought they have gone backwards. Yes i too have ordered a kill switch from France. Question. Every time i turn my saw on there is a very loud kerlunk sound.( is that a word?) Is this the lack of a soft start system that causes the saw to "jump hence the sound" My evolution drop saw does not make this sound so i am wondering. Have written to Evolution but as of yet no response. Keep up the GREAT work.
Thanks Stepan for your kind comments. Yes mine also makes a kind of kerlunk sound when it fires up, could be because it doesn’t have a slow start feature🤷♂️. The kill switch is great for this, much safer to use once installed 👍
What a great idea and find, I’ll be getting one of those. Thanks for sharing 👍
Certainly recommend you get one Steve. Such a simple idea but so effective and from a safety perspective is a must in my book😀👍
Thanks for helping me choosing my table saw. And good luck for the best British woodworker competition.
Thank you, hope you enjoyed it 😀👍
Nice accessory! I think I'll be buying one of them at some point. It's definitely an issue that needs to be overcome and £12+postage isn't too bad. Many times I've experienced the same thing in situations as you demonstrated where I've been switching it off and cringing because I'm yet to get rid of the cut piece to the side of the blade. It could get jiggled into the teeth and become a projectile that goes directly to the face. Someone from the comfort of a sofa or bed will read this and say we should always clear the blade before going in front of the blade but in reality we all do it from time to time.
It’s well worth it Andy. It really does make it safer to use. As much as we think about safe practice sometimes our guard drops. At least with this you don’t have to think about dropping your head to saw height anymore!
Yea definitely. As it stands you've really got to get your head down there to look for it whereas with this I bet you could just feel for it and keep your eye on the blade until it's off.
Thanks for this Leo. A great bit of info - I'll be getting one of these.
Well worth buying one Jan, makes using the saw much easier and safer👍😀
great vid. Bought one of these off the back of your recommedation. Works a treat. One question on the saw though. How are finding the dust collections now you've used it for a while. I bought a better Vac and it still chucks dust everywhere.
Thanks Andrew, very good addition to the saw. I have to say the dust collection is awful and I have it set up to a decent M class extractor. Table saws in general aren’t great for dust collection unless you spend the big bucks, but this is a big negative of the Rage 5-S
I'll second that, an extension kill switch accessory for any table saw is an absolute must!👌🏽
I made one for my table saw about 155mm longer to the right, so I can hit it with my knee, as well.
Good advice mate, and even better upgrade. 👍🏽
Nudging 4K subscribers, woo hoo😉
Thanks Bill😀. My brother messaged me last night about the subscriber thing and yes creeping up slowly but surely😂💪😀👍
I’ll 3rd that Bill, even though the Evolution brand never considered this as yet I love the fact that some clever soul has created something to help out all users of these Tablesaws 🔨👍👍👍
@@sumosprojects
For sure, Sumo.
Incredible what these guys with their own 3D printers come up with.
Wish I knew someone who had one, I need a few things printed...
I had considered buying a cheap small one just to see if it could turn into something, but I've bought a laser engraver CNC and don't really have room for it. In the process of mounting it to the ceiling via a small 250kg electric hoist....
@@SMee67 I know Bill, I can only decipher things in 2D mate 😁 & that’s where it ends but the world moves forward & eventually we catch up mate 🍻👍👍👍
Great find, Very useful...
Just one thing I will be implementing.
I'll be fastening it on with screws.
I could see the adhesive strip failing at exactly the point where it's needed, when you're in a blind Emergency panic ?
I suppose what you’re saying is possible, but with the correct cleaning and surface preparation I couldn’t see it happening. Would screwing it in invalidate the warranty 🤷♂️
Fantastic aftermarket accessory mate, glad you found it & every bit of safety counts Leo 🎥🔨👍🍺🍺🍺
It’s great Sumo, so simple and certainly makes the saw easier and safer to use👍😀😀😀
@@Hand-i-Craft I understand that it’s a real clever safety precaution Leo, big applause to the designer 👏👏👏👍
@@Hand-i-Craft good to hear mate 🍻👍
Great idea & tip.Makes you wonder why evolution had not thought of this.
My understanding Jules is Evolution used to supply this table saw with that type of kill switch, but when they updated it the kill switch was gone 😳. Madness
Brilliant little accessory by the looks of it! Two ordered, as my son also has a Rage-5S.
Nice one, really is an excellent addition to your table saw 👍👍
Absolutely agree, the power switch borders on the edge of dangerous
It really is stupid where they have located it, but at least this switch from Stu solves that problem 👍
Just found this video today even tho I thought I had seen them all. Ordered from this guy on eBay. Looks like something that should be fitted as standard.
Totally agree Pas that this should be standard, especially considering the location of the on/off switch! Stu has come up with a great aftermarket solution though so well worth the purchase and also supporting a small independent maker 👍👍
Hi, thanks for the video. I have recently bought a Rage 5 and think it is great except for that fiddly "on /ff" switch so I amgoing to order one of kill switch those accessories right now !
Nice one John. Stu has come up with a great design that is well priced and certainly makes the Rage5-S easier and safer to use. Glad you’ve bought one and helping an independent U.K. maker👍👍👍
Hi Leo. That accessory is a great piece of kit well made and a good price too. It's a lot safer like you demonstrated. Tony
Cheers Tony. Yes exactly pal. Great aftermarket accessory and good to be supporting a U.K. based independent small business 👍😀
Awesome mate. Just ordered one .
It’s brilliant Graham. Also fantastic to support a small independent UK maker😀👍
What a neat idea, thanks Leo. On mine I'm using a NVR switch with a double socket (nicked from my B&Q router table), this knocks off saw plus extraction.
Definitely getting one of these paddles.
Great demonstration. Keep safe.
Cheers Rob, great simple design idea from Stu and well worth buying with the added benefit of supporting a independent small U.K. maker 👍👍
Thanks Leo. On your original review I bought the Rage 5 and like you very happy except for the off switch style and location. Thanks for the info on the aftermarket attachment which I have bought and fitted. It just makes the saw feel so much safer
Cheers Michael, yes it really is a great addition. Makes it so much safer to use, plus supporting U.K. based independent business 👍👍
Liking this a lot. Will most certainly be ordering one 👍🏻
Well worth it pal 😀😀👍👍
Nice accessory. Crucially can be fitted with one hand.
It’s great Benedict. Very simple and certainly improves the safety of the saw👍👍
merci beaucoup
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I have been looking for one for my Rage also! Thanks for the heads up, Leo!! 👍🏼
Would definitely recommend buying one Chris. It really does make it so much easier to work the saw and much much safer👍👍
Wow thanks so much for the great bit of kit also ordered the router plate he does for the rage 5
Thanks Denis and yes great to see Stu doing well with his Evolution accessories. Been using my Rage 5 most of this morning to rip hardwood slats and it is so much easier and safer with the kill switch 👍👍
Just bought one based on your review
Great bit of kit
Nice one, thanks Dave😀👍
Useful video, and well presented, thanks:)
Cheers Guy👍👍😀😀
Hiya Leo. I noticed this, or a very similar item popped up when browsing insta at the weekend. I think it's a brilliant idea. Congrats to the person that designed it.
Totally agree Gary. Was happy to put this out there as the designer (Stu) is an independent hobbyist maker really so to promote a great product by a U.K. based independent maker is something I’m more than happy to do. Kind of reminds me a little of Karl ‘Strawbyte’s’ waste side jig in that it is so simple in design but also so effective 👍👍😀😀
Just got one first class and much easier to use thanks so much for posting this..
It’s great Chris isn’t it👍👍. So simple but well worth the money
Great information Leo! Thank you for sharing, I have mine ordered and on its way.
Great to hear Nicholas, well worth the money for making the saw easier and safer to use 😀👍
Hi, my right extension table is a bit below the table top. I only see a spring rod (?) And a nut (beside the two nuts for adjusting the back ruler). Any idea how to raise the ext table a bit?
I should be out there tomorrow Bebbu and will have a look at the extension arm to see if I can spot anything. Will get back to you👍
@@Hand-i-Craft i meant right! Sorry Leo. So if I put a bit of pressure on either side (downwards on the left or upwards on the right) it will level the right extension table. It is only a few mm now but it is there and bothers me a wee bit.
@@bebbuinc7611 Ok. Is there a chance the extension wing is fine and the table is misaligned? 🤷♂️
@@Hand-i-Craft the left and center is level. So I assumed the right is not (by only a few mm though). There's a play but no nuts to fix , there is a white plastic thingy inside the ruler rails though. Maybe it deformed 🤔
Ok got it. I hope. The spring rods on both ends serves as extended wing table lever adjustment. After adjusting, the wing now tighter. And you are right: top is too high! Adjust the 2 screws on the lever and voila.
Now happy camper. Thanks Leo.
Can't beat a simple and effective solution, well demonstrated as well 👍🏽
It’s a fantastic addition and I’d recommend it to anyone who buys the saw👍👍
Great video. Just placed order for one of these. Keep up great work
Nice one, well worth the money and makes it much safer to use 👍👍😀😀
That’s a worthwhile accessory Leo and Stu has some great items on his store.
He has pal, his Rage 5-S paddle is well worth buying as it makes the saw much easier as safer to use👍👍
Thank you.
Interesting piece of ki at a sensible price. Good to hear from you, looking forward to more on the workshop build when the weather gets a bit warmer I guess.
Started back on the workshop today Mike. The flooring arrived so I’ve been shifting it and spraying it with a treatment before 🤞 starting to lay it tomorrow👍👍
Thanks for that, I have bought it.
Brilliant Dafydd, great value for money and a fantastic accessory👍. It’s great to support a small independent UK maker as well😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft totally agree, after cutting the tip of finger on the table saw, anything to improve safety is a must
This is weird. I have an older version of this saw (with the slightly less good dust guard) and it already has this kind of on off switch. (eg the version in the image here masseys-diy.co.uk/product/evolution-rage5-multi-purpose-table-saw-255mm/ )
Frustrating that Evolution would make an update that is so obviously a downgrade...
My understanding of this Alastair is yes on the earlier version it did have a kill switch but was quite flimsy and broke easily. So their apparent solution to this was to get rid of it altogether 😳
@@Hand-i-Craft Hmm. Annoying. It is a tiny bit plasticky but never had any issues with it personally...
I reckon with a single piece of wood or bar you could connect the handle ends to each other so that it can be moved more easily with one hand by putting pressure in the middle of the machine rather than at one side or the other.
I shortened my handles for a reduced footprint when open, but in your situation I'd leave them full length for max leverage with one hand but I'd definitely connect them.
I saw your video Andy about trimming the handles and it was a great solution to your quandary. Thought about putting a bar across as I done it with a wheelbarrow and it worked a treat!
Oh yes I recall that now you mention it! Definitely sounds like a plan. Not sure about you but I don't tend to get the saw out that often and tend to use it when I'm doing loads of cuts in one go.
I got a couple of bargains recently! New Makita 4350FCT (jigsaw) for £90 and new Makita KP0810K (planer) for £120! Turns out a decent jigsaw is so much better than the Aldi ones I've used in the past. A world apart in accuracy and blade drift.
Great idea 👍🏼
Stu has done a great job designing this Mark. Simple but very effective 👍👍
Ahhh, I’ve been looking at a new switch for mine too, fantastic mate.. gonna get mine ASAP. 👍🏼 Thanks.
Nice one Mr B, well worth it sir. Makes the saw much easier and safer to you👍😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Ordered one last night bud.. Thanks for the link. 😉
That’s great Leo. What you now need is the addition of a soft start module from Amazon £20. See Casual DIY on you tube massive difference. Just fitted one to my old cheapo Table Saw👍
Thanks Ashley, tbh I’ve decommissioned the table saw now. Since getting the MFT setup with the rail hinge, I find that much easier and safer to use than the table saw. The only thing missing is being able to cut long rips of hardwood, which I’m looking at a larger bandsaw for👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft Nice one Leo cannot begins to comprehend how you manage to do what you do without the use of your other hand. Good health for 2023 👍
@@ashleymears8072 Cheers Ashley and to you as well 😀😀👍👍
I have the same saw and I am going to source the stop button accessory. Having to play it again to find out where to get it :) Many thanks
Thanks John. There is a direct link to it in the Video description if you want to click on that 👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft cheers
Great vid Leo .was there a foot pedal version ?
I think there was Jim over in the States. Haven’t seen it here mind, but really happy with this tbh👍👍😀😀
just bought the evolution r255 and yes the on off button was a nightmare to find when needed in a hurry but thanks for the heads up on this and have just ordered one congrats for letting us know about this product
Thanks for the message👍. Yes it’s such a simple yet effective solution. Great addition to your table saw and also supporting a independent small business 😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft just received the emergency stop paddle and must say it a snug fit and quick and easy to operate a must have for anyone with these types of table saws
thanks again to you Leo and Stu for your design
Great find! 👏🇦🇺✌️
Thank you Markie, great accessory👍👍
Great addition, thanks for sharing👍
Cheers Colin👍😀
Hi Leo, I always watch your videos simply because they are so inspirational. I often pick up tricks that are just as useful to cack handed two armers like me as well. Keep them coming and good luck with the workshop build. I hope it gets warmer soon as we are coming back from France in a few weeks and it isn't inviting in UK at the moment. WKR
Mike
Thanks Michael. It’s starting to warm up a little bit during the day now👍. Been doing some work prepping the flooring this weekend which has been great. Feel like it is getting back on track now 😀😀👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft Good news Leo
Great idea, why don’t Evolution fit one as standard wouldn’t add too much to the cost
My understanding Ray on the earlier version they had a ‘type’ of kill switch which easily snapped off so I’m guessing when they updated it they decided to get rid of it altogether 😳😳🤷♂️🤷♂️
Great job evolution...make a safety feature less safe. Replacement looks fab and more importantly functional! Even a good solid big red button (see big Clive's button for his brother ralfy for the sort of thing i mean) would have been better than the manufacturer removing it entirely.
Great addition to your saw i have the Dewalt 745 and have exactly the same issue it is a bad design doesn't seem to matter how much you use the saw you can never seem to find the off switch without looking for it.👍
Cheers Rasmo. I’ve seen a few makers on TH-cam with the Dewalt and they have a nice chunky aftermarket wooden ‘paddle’ over the off button in effect creating a kill switch. Haven’t seen one for the evolution so when I came across this I was very happy to purchase one👍👍
Hi Rasmo I’m currently working on a design for the earlier dewalt 745 model. If you follow me on Etsy or Facebook spwoodcreations they will be released soon. 👍
Hi Rasmo I now have a dw745 stop on my Etsy page.
Is that a Mancunian accent?
I was born in Wigan pal but have lived in Liverpool for the last thirty years👍
Nice one Leo, as usual.
Thanks Wil 😀😀
Nice find, thanks for sharing.
Cheers Sly👍😀
@@Hand-i-Craft i have seriously been considering one of these table saws but have many hmms 🤔 about them, now thats one hmm less, thank you, liked and sub'd.
Great tip Leo
Thanks Alastair 👍😀