Generally speaking place as many vias you can to connect the two ground planes. This method is called via stitching and is used to minimize noise interferences and make a solid ground connection between the two ground planes. It's a good practice. So make use of the non used space and put a bunch of vias there
I won't be the first to thank you for this tutorial. I've already used this technique in a dozen designs, or so. This seems to me like a more practical solution than the classical "traces on top, ground plane on the bottom" one. Of course, it still depends a bit on how close the via is to the obstructed current. In essence, you will not get the highest performance by randomly sprinkling vias?
Thanks! this was very usefull, I have a question, say I have a portion of my board where I want the spacing to be larger, like input conectors with higher voltage. Can I have different spacing within a ground polygon? Because there are some areas that become isolated from ground if I choose a bigger spacing. So i would like a bigger isolation just in certain areas of the board.
thanks friend. to create the gcode you have to select one polygon at a time right? I noticed that the file is created based on the selected polygon. I don't know if I mean well
Your method works great. I want to also panelize the board by making copies of it, but I discovered that group copy won't copy the polygons. Any ideas?
Thanks for the video! have a question regarding the polygon tool. As i attempt to start drawing the polygon, i can't exactly select the top corner of my pcb to start drawing from there. Eveytime i click the corner, the dot appears a bit displaced. This however only happens with the the upper part of the pcb. Any idea why this happens?
I haven't used EAGLE for years, so I am not sure what is happening. (I use KiCad now.) But the polygon can be larger than the board, so it doesn't really matter where it starts.
hi this is great. This is probably a daft question but why use a ground plane. I had made a board and just wired the ground around the circuit. Does the ground plane mean eliminating lots of extra unnecessary GND wiring? Especially if I relabel my negative net to GND
Ground planes improve a circuit's signal integrity. By including a ground plane, you provide a better return path. The parasitics (resistance, capacitance, and inductance) of individual ground traces connected together is much higher than a singular ground plane. In high frequency circuits ground planes are used to control impedances of a trace and as a limited shield from emitting EMI. From a PCB production perspective, they greatly reduce the amount of copper that needs to be etched (or milled) away.
Nice tutorial. One question, though. Let's say that we have a third polygon with a different signal for cooling a LDO. How do you separate it from the ground ones?
nice tutorial.....and nicely done.....i am still facing a problem after pouring. after the last step after pouring top and bottom layers when i save my brd. And then open it again pouring is gone only polygons are left behind and then i have to again hit ratnest button again.Same happens every time i open and close board file any remedy?
Anybody here to answer a quick question??? OK, so after I created my ground plane and hit the ratsnest button, my ground plane appeared on the layer on which I drew it. (I used layer 2, which is an "inside" layer, but I'm not sure it matters.) Then when my designed appeared to be complete, of course I saved my work. The apparent problem occurred the next time I opened the file to double check everything one more time. When I did that, the ground plane did not appear. Rather only the outside edge or border of the polygon showed up. I then had to hit the ratsnest command again, and there it was. Question: Is my ground plane saved in my job file, or did I miss a step before I saved and exited my work? I'm very concerned that my boards won't get manufactured correctly!
Hi! I've wondered about one thing: After I've defined a polygon, renamed it to GND (for example) and did ratsnest, the design is pretty much over, isn't it ? If I do little changes to a wire, the polygon plane won't change as well. Is there a way to get around this? I think it's pretty inconvenient to undo all your steps to the point of GND-plane definition, do the change to the wire, and do the plane definition again.. Kind regards, Tom
No. That has never been my experience. You should not have to redefine the plane. Each time the ratnest command is run, the plane will be redrawn. Which means it should accommodate your changes. If not, something else is happening. Keep in mind that if you do not have "orphans" enabled, it is possible to draw traces that eliminate section sof the plane. So you have to enable orphans in the plane dialog or you need find a way to "reconnect" those orphaned areas to another ground reference. I typically put GND on both the top and bottom, so an additional ground VIA usually fixes it.
I always makes polygons and after draw pcb. Why you told ''we need to make polygon after drawing pcb'' ? First polygon, second draw pcb is more easy? I there any technical problem with it?
I think that for VCC is the same, but instead of naming polygon as 'GND' you name as 'VCC' or other name that you have for your vcc, use the same name for vias.
I'm super stressed right now for my PCB project, but this funny tutorial and your voice really calmed me haha thanks james!
Generally speaking place as many vias you can to connect the two ground planes. This method is called via stitching and is used to minimize noise interferences and make a solid ground connection between the two ground planes. It's a good practice. So make use of the non used space and put a bunch of vias there
Best Eagle tutorial by a mile! Well done and many thanks.
First of all, Thanks you for this tutorial. I loved your sound efects!
great tutorial, exactly what I needed, well presented
I won't be the first to thank you for this tutorial. I've already used this technique in a dozen designs, or so. This seems to me like a more practical solution than the classical "traces on top, ground plane on the bottom" one. Of course, it still depends a bit on how close the via is to the obstructed current. In essence, you will not get the highest performance by randomly sprinkling vias?
How do you add a hatched ground plane?
Thanks! this was very usefull, I have a question, say I have a portion of my board where I want the spacing to be larger, like input conectors with higher voltage.
Can I have different spacing within a ground polygon? Because there are some areas that become isolated from ground if I choose a bigger spacing. So i would like a bigger isolation just in certain areas of the board.
thanks friend. to create the gcode you have to select one polygon at a time right? I noticed that the file is created based on the selected polygon. I don't know if I mean well
in the schematic, before converting to a PCB board, what do we do with the pins that we want grounded?
Your method works great. I want to also panelize the board by making copies of it, but I discovered that group copy won't copy the polygons. Any ideas?
VERY CLEAR AND WELL DONE TUTORIAL
Thanks for the video! have a question regarding the polygon tool. As i attempt to start drawing the polygon, i can't exactly select the top corner of my pcb to start drawing from there. Eveytime i click the corner, the dot appears a bit displaced. This however only happens with the the upper part of the pcb. Any idea why this happens?
I haven't used EAGLE for years, so I am not sure what is happening. (I use KiCad now.) But the polygon can be larger than the board, so it doesn't really matter where it starts.
very insightful video! Thanks James for saving lots of time of me!
hi this is great. This is probably a daft question but why use a ground plane. I had made a board and just wired the ground around the circuit. Does the ground plane mean eliminating lots of extra unnecessary GND wiring? Especially if I relabel my negative net to GND
Ground planes improve a circuit's signal integrity. By including a ground plane, you provide a better return path. The parasitics (resistance, capacitance, and inductance) of individual ground traces connected together is much higher than a singular ground plane.
In high frequency circuits ground planes are used to control impedances of a trace and as a limited shield from emitting EMI.
From a PCB production perspective, they greatly reduce the amount of copper that needs to be etched (or milled) away.
Nice tutorial. One question, though. Let's say that we have a third polygon with a different signal for cooling a LDO. How do you separate it from the ground ones?
+ceech123 If the polygon has a name other than GND, it'll be isolated from the ground plane where they overlap.
Would this circuit work fine without the ground plane?
Once I make GND plane, how exactly do I get rid of all the GND connections around my PCB?
i wanna know. How to change cursor is big like this ?
I love you video, it helped me a lot, the effects addition was a plus! Many thanks Bro
nice tutorial.....and nicely done.....i am still facing a problem after pouring.
after the last step after pouring top and bottom layers when i save my brd. And then open it again pouring is gone only polygons are left behind and then i have to again hit ratnest button again.Same happens every time i open and close board file
any remedy?
+ali jamshaid Each time you re-load the file, you must re-run the RATNEST command.
Anybody here to answer a quick question??? OK, so after I created my ground plane and hit the ratsnest button, my ground plane appeared on the layer on which I drew it. (I used layer 2, which is an "inside" layer, but I'm not sure it matters.) Then when my designed appeared to be complete, of course I saved my work. The apparent problem occurred the next time I opened the file to double check everything one more time. When I did that, the ground plane did not appear. Rather only the outside edge or border of the polygon showed up. I then had to hit the ratsnest command again, and there it was. Question: Is my ground plane saved in my job file, or did I miss a step before I saved and exited my work? I'm very concerned that my boards won't get manufactured correctly!
thanks man, I think I am very late with watching this video, but really useful for me, learnt what I was looking for.
Glad it has been helpful. Please let me know what else I can help explain.
Thanks Thanks A lot MR.James Lewis you made my day ...........
Nicely explained! 👏👏
This was very helpful. Thanks for posting it.
Ground planes are like decoupling capacitors. They help with things you don't realize you need help with, until they aren't there.
Great tutorial, easy to follow and understandable.
Hi! I've wondered about one thing:
After I've defined a polygon, renamed it to GND (for example) and did ratsnest, the design is pretty much over, isn't it ? If I do little changes to a wire, the polygon plane won't change as well.
Is there a way to get around this? I think it's pretty inconvenient to undo all your steps to the point of GND-plane definition, do the change to the wire, and do the plane definition again..
Kind regards,
Tom
No. That has never been my experience. You should not have to redefine the plane. Each time the ratnest command is run, the plane will be redrawn. Which means it should accommodate your changes. If not, something else is happening.
Keep in mind that if you do not have "orphans" enabled, it is possible to draw traces that eliminate section sof the plane. So you have to enable orphans in the plane dialog or you need find a way to "reconnect" those orphaned areas to another ground reference. I typically put GND on both the top and bottom, so an additional ground VIA usually fixes it.
Just figured it out. Group copy does copy the polygons, but not the fill. You just have to do Ratsnest again on each copy.
I always makes polygons and after draw pcb. Why you told ''we need to make polygon after drawing pcb'' ? First polygon, second draw pcb is more easy? I there any technical problem with it?
When I clic on the Ratsnest command nothing happens. :(
What am I doing wrong?
Straight to the point, thank you!
Thanks nice tutorial but for Vcc?
I think that for VCC is the same, but instead of naming polygon as 'GND' you name as 'VCC' or other name that you have for your vcc, use the same name for vias.
Thanks, this video is simple, but helps a lot !!.
Pls can you add more tutorials on eagle pcb
I haven't used EAGLE for over 6 years and will probably never use it again.
THANK YOU SIR FOR UPLOADING THIS VIDEO
very helpful tutorial sir, thanks
Great. Thanks for taking the time.
good jobs thanks this video tutorial.best regard i am from indonesia country
Thanks for this. Great tutorial.
very useful for me!
good job!
Create a wire connected to the pins. (The wire does not need to be connected together). Use the NAME command to name each of those wires "GND".
where is the input command
Thx man. You save me.
Haha Thx so much. My book teaches about 2:10, then I can not do until find your video.
Clean and informative, great!
nice tutorial! thanks a lot!!
Awesome, thank you for this!
men muchas gracias
The only way that comes to mind is using multiple polygons, instead of one giant GND polygon.
Very good! Thanks!
nice tutorial
lovely video.. thnx! :)
Thank you.
Thank you very much!
that saved my day :D
Very helpfull thanks!
Thank you
Thank you...!!! Great help!
great!
Thanks for sharing :-)
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thank you :D
Doesnt work for me lol, I click ratnest and nothing changes
With no description of what you did or what happened, all I can say is: obviously you did it wrong.
@@bald_engineer I didnt have any vias to the background layer, didnt realize I had to add those first. Solved. Thanks anyway.
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hahah thx man, darn ratsnest :)))
Yup, that one catches everyone.
Thanx for this video..... lol
thanks!