Evidence in the Karen Read Case | Killer or Cover-up Murder Trial
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- DAY 20: What makes the case against #KarenRead so complicated? Read's defense questions police protocol while collecting evidence and reveal plans to call Trooper Proctor to the stand during the #KillerOrCoverUpMurderTrial.
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I think her stories don't add up, but the jury doesn't get to see her interviews they won't know her stories can't be reconciled. She confirms pointing out the taillight and saying "(did) I hit him(?)"
All.those peeps cant be conspiring..its too far fetched
This was NOT a coverup no way smiling smiling she doesn’t even feel bad God lmows
guilty
Guilty
Ex-lawyer here - the Prosecution lost me in opening. Honestly it was so fragmented that I couldn’t get invested enough to try and follow the trial. The jury needs clarity from the outset to be able to compartmentalise the evidence they go on to hear.
"If you can't convince them, confuse them." That's what prosecution is doing
@@Lady_Pas Sadly with confusion comes doubt, which means they are doing the defences job for them.
@@4legsalex706 what's doing the defences job for them was Jen McCabe googling "hos long to die in cold" at 2:27. Let's not kid ourselves and lose perspective of the really important thing.
What's doing the defences job for them is the injuries on John's body, NOT AT ALL consistent with being hit by an SUV. Laceration at the back of the head, and back eyes and bloody nose, much more consistent with punches in the face. And no injuries to the rest of the body (except the lacerations on his arm, which look like dog bites, but apparently it was Karen cutting him (several times) in a fit of jealous rage).
Guess who has gotten in a lot of trouble for punching people in the face, who also happens to live in the house where the body was found: Brian Albert.
The laceration at the back of the head was very likely when he hit his head against something sharp, from Brian Alberts KO punch. John was drunk, so he probably didn't even see it coming.
@Thomas-vu5ge you think the "How long to die in cold" at 2:27am is a lie?
@Thomas-vu5gebut these witnesses also got caught lying and didn’t report these comments to anyone until way later.
I worked as an EMT and when a persons clothes are cut off they are discarded onto the ambulance floor. Those microscopic pieces of plastic could have been picked up that way. To me it is the best evidence that the commonwealth has but it isn’t very compelling.
No vehicular homicide occurred that's the problem. The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@@rubiirae I’m guessing Proctor smashed a cocktail glass and planted it.
Also, people forget that when the cops went to the hospital to collect the clothes (they picked them up off the ER room floor.
Those clothes were on the ambulance floor, and on the hospital room floor.
I wouldn’t be able to convict the defense has done a great job at casting doubt and shining a light on how bad of an investigation the local police did on this case.
Try using commas to make your comment make sense.
Made perfect sense to me
@@Little-miss Then you need to go back to school.
Why cause I can still read without someone using commas .
Think it's a you problem since it bothers you so much .
@@Little-miss I can read it but the difference is i can see the errors, if you can't then you're a right idiot.
Right now if I was a juror I couldn’t vote guilty due to reasonable doubt.
There is zero doubt. She should call Hood Will and start giving away her belongings.
@@Barb417plenty of doubt imo no good will 😅
The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@@Barb417The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
"If you can't convince them, confuse them." That's what prosecution is doing
To me… Please no one insult me… To me there is reasonable doubt
No one should be insulting you for having an opinion. I happen to agree with you. Regardless, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Adults can agree to disagree!
@@guisellec-dI CAME HERE TO SAY THIS!
@@JAJJABLOG great minds think alike 😉
Tons
There is no reasonable doubt here. John O’Keefe was killed in that house and dumped outside. That entire family is guilty of murder.
The butt dials are insane.
Right? It's not 2013. 🙄
"That's what u call hands-free technology"...🤣
Hos long to butt dial in the cold?
Driving to a military base to dispose of ones phone is insane and sketchy as hell.
I want to know who goes to sleep with a cell phone between their butt cheeks?😅😂😅😂
None of the glass on the bumper matched to the drinking glass. The one piece of glass on the bumper that matched anything was matched to a single piece of glass that trooper Proctor submitted as evidence which was found at the scene however neither of those pieces matched the drinking glass.
So the glass on the bumper is actually non-evidence.
BRING IN Trooper Proctor😡
I don't know if the Feds will allow him to give testimony. Proctor took bribes, (gifts for his wife)
During this case.
Yes please!!!
MONDAY!!!!🎉 get the popcorn
@@colleen019 😁👍
Justice for John 🙏 💜 from Australia 🦘
👆
I’m from Australia too ❤
fairdinkum!
It’s crazy this case is reaching this far. Do you guys have a crime show there?
She did it 🤯🤯
This is why ‘it’s so complicated’. The media has complicated it. The internet hasn’t helped at all. Court TV was built for this type of trial. Don’t get me wrong and call me a hypocrite- but it’s gripping television- and I’m absolutely glued to it. And I hate that fact.
Agreed!
You go girl... no show in your game... Agatha Christie would love this
Saying that for years , the media is getting information that’s base on hearsay. Like the Idaho case. Sometimes they already convicted without a trail. And you VINNY are one of those. You convicted KR before the trail starten.
The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@ItsAconspiricyalcohol and driving had nothing to do with this. It may have motivated the Alberts though to become enraged at John and kill him. So you should say don't drink and beat people.
The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
You know if this court ever worked a full day and/or a full week, this trial would be finished. What the heck? I'd hate to be a juror on this trial as it just drags on for no reason.😮
Karen Read is guilty
There is so much reasonable doubt that the jury shouldn't convict!!
I couldn't convict with this piss poor evidence!!
Nothing adds up to her murdering him!
And he was absolutely attacked by the dog, scratched by the dog!
🤦🏻♀️
Really- you saw the dog
If u ever ever seen someone bitten or scratched by a dog u will know what it looks like
@barbaramedlock4337
I've had dogs, and other animals my whole life!
Those scratches didn't come from a car!!
@@melissahaire7058 My favorite part was when they presented the hair. Did you DNA test the hair to see if it was John's? Nope! Why am I listening to you talk about the hair for 20 minutes then?
Don't forget to bring in the judge! She's just as corrupt!
Auntie Bev is very corrupt.
Her father is Trooper Proctor's lawyer. The whole legal system is corrupt in that place.
The only thing this prosecutor has proven beyond a reasonable doubt was that it was snowing. He asks every single witness about snow, snow removal, snow fall, did they know it was snowing, driving in snow. The man is obsessed with snow.
😂😂😂
Hahaha 😂
That's funny because your little leader Turdle Boi said it was just flurries 😂
Conspiracy people need to get out more!
I’m catching up as my wife pointed this out to me recently, hearing the 911 call, I only heard one person freaking out (Karen in the background) and the loved friend of Johns described him to the dispatcher as a man on the ground, not an officer, not in a freaked out tone. Whole thing screams shady to me, let me here y’alls thoughts.
Not officer, Not John, Not even "my friend". Calm as a cucumber. And why wasn't she concerned about her sister? Dead man on the lawn could've meant an attack in the house. 🤔
Thank God some people stay very calm in crisis situations. They are usually the ones who get help instead of running in circles. I’m someone who gets very calm in crisis so I get it.
The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@@jackieblue6116yes, the murderers had to stay calm because they had to get ready to plot how they were going to explain that he was hit by a car even though he has no injuries from a vehicular homicide..The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
It's absolutely clear that the tail light was intact when they put it on the tow truck. It's planted evidence!
It’s very obvious that it was a coverup.
Sure looks like a cover up so far
It’s obvious the tail light was Broken at 8:52am that morning and Broken when the tow truck picked up the Lexus. Are you blind?? Doesn’t matter, I’m sure the jury is not!
Leave it to the Commonwealth to drive the complicated struggle bus. Bring on the ME and Proctor already... Lally is kicking his own
a$$.. so far I say there's reasonable doubt..
I don't think anyone was murdered, the guy was hit by a snowplow.
NO!!!! Don't you see he was beaten to death look at his injuries. The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
You must not be following a trial you must not know about the FBI investigation you must not know about the FBI reconstruction already done, you must not know about the data analysis the FBI did on their phones. No vehicle whether it was a snow plow or a SUV or a car killed John. He was beaten to death. If he had been hit by a snow plow or a car he would have gross bodily injuries to his torso. It defies the laws of physics and common sense to suggest that a vehicle traveling with inertia would hit somebody and merely punch them in the face causing two black eyes, a cut on the nose, hit them on the back of the head, and then attack their arm like a dog. Take one look at Melanie Little attorney with American standard K9 a former a police dog trainer and he will show you identical dog attack lacerations to John's arm. John shirt sleeve had holes and tears in it and his right arm was attacked by a dog. It's a myth that dogs only leave punctures. You are lucky if you only get a puncture. If they fall on attack you then they will cut you like a knife with their canines. a simple Google search dog attack lacerations will show you graphic images of what look like stab wounds. Like I said look at Melanie Little attorney with American standard canine and go look at the evidence and they'll show you John's arm and then they'll show you identical marks from dog attacks he was murdered in that basement by Brian and Colin and Chloe their dog attacked John while the owners were killing him
LOL, snow plow? That is a slim possibility.😅
Justice for John O'keefe, who is the true victim in this case.🙏
Yes and justice for John will mean the arrest of Brian and Colin Albert and the mccabes for helping cover it up as well as Brian Higgins for helping cover it up
It’s more believable to think the people at the party covered things up.
For a house full of cops to miss a murder seems ridiculous.
A woman wouldn’t/couldn’t come up with such a story and be able to carry it this far without having her defense torn apart.
I believe her.
The multiple "butt dials" and destroying of phones 1 day before notification that phones were to be saved for evidence seems to support her claims of being framed! Jennifer McCabe looking up how long it takes to die from hyperthermia is suspicious!! Who knows!! A bunch of drunk cops!!
Yes! What gets me is the 3 ladies arrive to the Albert home at 6-ish a.m. Karen jumps out of the car SCREAMIN!. Then she and Kerrie are giving mouth to 👄mouth and CPR to John. Then L.E. arrive. The lights of EMS and law enforcement vehicles going off lighting up the neighborhood! While Karen is now running around and SCREAMING ALL THE MORE, while the EMS takes over!!!
The noise and lights don't wake up the Albert's???
Wouldn't a 🐕 dog be barking and wake up the owners with ALL that commotion going on in their front yard???
Where was their dog?
It was stated it slept in THEIR bedroom!
It was said that the upstairs window closest to the flag pole was the Albert couples bedroom window!
Yet it took Jennifer MCCabe to go inside the Albert home to wake them to let them know what was going on in their front yard!!!
(Hos) to wake a family up
after a murder happens on YOUR PROPERTY?
NOT with your barking dog or someone screaming hysterically in your front yard and not with EMS and Law Enforcement lights flashing!!!
Hmmm!!!
Something is suspect!!!
Karen Read knew EXACTLY where John's body was which you know is impossible in those conditions. Unless you already knew where he was? That was one of many "little" mistakes Karen Read made that morning. Including the booze/pill/truth vomit when she admitted to hitting him. I hate to say it idk what was going on in her life then, but at the time I don't think she cared what happened to herself either. But she was still here having to face it. She seemed possibly suicidal. Who knows how she handles a guilty verdict?
I believe her to
@@MValleysMostWanted91 I don’t believe that.
I don’t believe that she sat at home knowing he was dying in the snow and hoped no one inside saw him.
And then came back and was like ‘holy crap, ain’t one of ‘em saw him! That’s gotta be good for my story.’
If she were such a cold hearted murderer that was able to do such a thing, there would be clues in her life that would stick out like a green thumb.
The ONLY thing here is a house full of cops saying they had no idea.
And a dog that’s no longer there.
Explain how a house full of cops were none the wiser. Explain how she could possibly know that they were so ignorant to what happened?
Explain how she ran him over, left and knew no one would notice. Explain bite marks on his body. Maybe she hit him and left and then the dog went out and found a dead body and started biting on it and THAT’S when they noticed anything? And MAYBE the dog biting on him is what caused his death?
Why wouldn’t the house full of cops HELP?
They knew nothing but the dog got rehomed right afterwards?
The benefit of doubt lays in HER hands.
NOT in all of the hands inside that did nothing. Were there dog paw prints in the snow by his body?
lol, it’s sad that a house full of cops is the LAST place I’d put my trust in.
But hey, how many woman have been killed in front of police stations? Silly things…thinking they’d be safe at a police station.
Sike again. They die. Usually.
9 times out of ten.
And we’re supposed to believe this woman did such a thing in front of a house full of cops.
This is the reason why the defendant is getting away with so much in Indiana.
The cops screwed the investigation up so badly, it’s hard to believe they have the right person. Not because of anything more than how obvious it is how badly they screwed up the investigation.
The police have a way of making themselves look like supermen, even after people are DEAD.
😵
The ONLY believable person here is HER.
Whether the dog attacked on purpose or not, authorities are pinning MURDER on her for WRONG reasons.
I believe the cops are lying. 🤥
For whatever reason. 😒
How about when Higgins said john was never in the house, but when the daughter was on the stand, she slipped up and said he was in the house.
She didn't slip up. She said when John was THERE, meaning when he was present on the street, in the car with Karen Read. Never once did she say he was inside the house.
Thats untrue!
@@francesca6301She DID slip you. You just dont get it. How would she know when John was there when her testimony is that she NEVER saw him at any point that night?
@@notsorryyouretriggered because she knows the facts of the case and people talk, duh. 🙄
@@francesca6301okay. Apply your logic then. If Alison never saw John, how would she know for a FACT that Colin “wasn’t in the house when John was there”? Silly 😂
It's awful !!!...the laugh and such festive attitude of this woman!!! It's not a party !!!it's a Crime and death of our Police Officer!!!
Stop gaslighting people with your bs. John was not killed by a car and you know it and so does the FBI. The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
The trial was not supposed to be 3 weeks. It was supposed to be 6-8. I am 7 minutes into watching and already have debunked a lie.
nick has more excuses than president carter has liver pills
Legit question:
What part of John Okeef's body was struck by the tail light, and why would the tail light explode outward >> all over the front lawn like there was a small explosive inside the tailight compartment?
No question asked by people believing Read was framed is a legit question. You have already formed an "answer" to your own question so just tell us. We aren't mind readers.
@@crazycatladyinc9191 so people who have a different view than yours, can't ask legit questions. Sounds like you're the close minded one.
You want to know my legit questions ,here u go:
So did the taillight hit his head, the only area on his body with real damage outside of the scratches on his harm. Wouldn't his face and head be imprinted with tiny pieces of red taillight? The same taillight that exploded all over the front lawn. They supposedly found taillight fragments on his clothes, so it struck his torso area, an area softer compared to the
Skull, but somehow managed to explode this super hard plastic outward all over the lawn, but wait, there was no damage found on his torso. Makes no sense. Not guilty
You make a good point on the tail light. I think the police were pretty inept at the scene while collecting evidence.
@@jasonspain1466 Thanks. It's called critical thinking and you are apparently quite capable of it. I actually had to read that twice bc I didnt believe someone could be that rude to you. This side is happy to give facts for our "opinions". The other.....well you already know!
We’ll never know because no taillight debris was recovered from his body or clothing
I’m sure they noticed Karen’s lack of emotion when his clothing and photos were shown. Actually she was grinning and commenting yesterday with her constant smirk. It’s so sad. Did she even like him?
Watching her behaviour reminded me of a nasty little school girl
After another day the prosecution enters video which glitches for 3 minutes if they had nothing to hide we would have seen the video in it's entirety!! They ought to be ashamed of theirselves!!
Why wouldn’t KR’s first thought be that JO was asleep at his friend’s house? It doesn’t make sense that she’d jump to the worst conclusion and cause a scene before knowing anything. That’s what I can’t get past no matter how weird this case is.
Yes and John not answering his phone could have been bcos of a number of reasons but she jumped straight into calling her friend why didn’t she just drive round to the place she dropped him off or maybe she did and saw his body laying there and took off home again to get Kaylee to ring Julie Albert and the rest is history .
I agree. Even if they'd argued and he got out of the car saying "I'm going to the party to hang out with my friends. Feel free to go home, but I'm staying ", her first thought should have been "I guess he slept over at the Albert house, or shacked up with Bella's mom." Why was her first so-called assumption "He's dead. He got hit by a plow."? It makes no sense whatsoever. If she dropped him off by the front door as she said in one of her changing stories, her first assumption should have been that he passed out drunk on someone's couch. If they'd fought as she said they had, she would have assumed he wasn't answering calls or texts the next morning because of the fight and the hateful voicemails she'd left him the night before. It boggles my mind that people can't see the truth staring them in the face. Instead, they're obsessed with butts dials and red solo cups, but completely ignore the broken taillight found in the snow 10 minutes after Proctor got her car in the sallyport. There was no time for him to plant evidence and if the evidence wasn't planted in the snow, there's only one logical conclusion: she killed Officer John O'Keefe.
@@francesca6301 💯 agree well said !
Because his niece was home and he always always went home. Karen wasn’t supposed to spend the night either so she wondered why he never got home.
Because he was meant to come home to his niece like always. She wasn’t supposed to stay over that night but did because John didn’t come home. Wasn’t answering his phone, no one else was either so she went out in the car.
I would Hate to be on this jury! I have gone back and forth on this case. The defense has, in my opinion, proved there is so much room for evidence that states there is irrefutable evidence that the crime scene shows something, But is it ‘Cicumstantial evidence? I would Hate to be on this jury. I keep going back and forth. I am Not a fan of Karen Read. But I do have to admit, I am on the fence due to the Facts that the Albertsand McCabes lied about trashing their phones, deleting searches/texts. The job of the DefenseTeam is to make the jury believe there is a belief of a considerable doubt if the defendant did this. So far, the defense has proven, in my opinion, the jury needs to question Everything! These people were All Drunk! These cops knew they could he away from a DUI, they were ALL DRUNK! If you or I were drinking as much of these clowns, everyone of them would have busted us for a DUI! Pisses me off!
I’m on the fence too. I was convinced until Higgins testified. He had motive, means and opportunity. Now, it appears that a portion of sally port video is missing. How do you explain that away?? You can’t.
It’s what can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. There is zero percent the state has removed doubt, let alone BEYOND a reasonable doubt. It’s not about what anyone thinks or how they feel about the defendant or victim…it’s what the state can prove.
John's bodily injuries tell a story and they will exonerate Karen from the grave. Use your common sense and use logic. Moreover, The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@@prisonersdilemma939I think I have responded to you before but again this is very important information I hope you read it because this is the truth The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@@prisonersdilemma939the important thing you know is Higgins did have motive but Higgins is not who actually killed him. It was Brian and Colin in the basement with Chloe. Higgins simply helped his friends cover it up because he knew he would look bad because he had motive. I don't know what set Brian and Colin off but something did. That is the question why did they kill him
I think she hit him and left him there but she doesn’t know she hit him.i think she was drunk and probably honestly thinks she didn’t but i think she definitely did kill him with car.sorry Karen u probably only do 10 years jail.donr drink and drive next time.
I almost agree with you. In my opinion, she started to suspect at some point during the night that she indeed had hit him.
She knew she did it when she sobered up and went back out to get him. She's smirking, laughing and has a smug look on her face. Her Attorneys are expensive. I think she's a narrististic Karen.
But.. where did his belt go when she “supposedly hit him”?
@@JAJJABLOG he was wearing his belt. Did you not watch the testimony today?
I cannot stand that smug on her face either, Defo narristic!
the state is doing a bad job of proven that so far..
NARCISSISTIC
This is the most incriminating evidence so far.
At first, I thought it was a cover up....however, now I do believe that karen ran john over by accident because she was so intoxicated, and probably blacked it out.
There will be at least one expert, likely more, that will be testifying that John was not hit by a vehicle and Karen’s vehicle could not have struck a person. His injuries and the damage to her car do not match up with a vehicle-pedestrian collision.
If you think she hit him, why doesn’t he have a single injury below his neck?? Where did the scratches on his arm come from??!
It's not humanly possible. He would have gross bodily injuries and I don't know if you're aware of the FBI already did a full reconstruction and confirmed that he was not killed by any car. The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@@josiemiller6524I still cannot get over people thinking maybe she hit him on accident. No car killed the man it's impossible. No vehicular injuries at all and the FBI reconstruction has already proven he was not killed by a car. He was beaten to death in the home
I honestly wonder if you are a troll because nobody and I mean nobody at this point believes Karen is guilty everybody believes she's factually innocent. The cover-up is extreme all the evidence points to it and more importantly the evidence has shown that he has zero bodily injuries from being hit by a 6,000 lb vehicle and run over. I could say I stabbed someone to death, but if they have no knife wounds you would know I was lying. Please think critically and look at his injuries. The FBI knows what they're doing
Karen Read knows she hit John with her car. Why would she say "He may have been hit by a plow" before she even knew he wasnt asleep on someones couch?
Where's the proof he was hit by the car? 🤔
@@WhiteRhino.wait for the ME to testify I’m sure you will find out then .
She's amazing! She knew he was hit before anyone knew what happened.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
She’s psychic, perhaps😭🤣
Lally is completeliy inept, I can't coprehend how is he even a lawyer, never seen so much incompetence from a prosecutor
Karen did hit her boyfriend it probably was a accident but she should not of left him there unless she didn't realize she had hit him or like backed over him as they both were drunk and driving as well !!
Karen Read thinks she got this smiling and carrying on really this was her boyfriend for 2 yrs . She shows no feelings towards him are his family. Heartless… Sad Case
I think she might be resenting ever meeting john because of this . Free karen read ❤❤
Guilty
@@lolabear3230She should take the stand. Why not tell the story?
She’s smiling because she’s been framed and people are seeing through it too! She was screaming when they found him and trying to warm him up with her body. She was very upset but there won’t be any Justice from this verdict, only her being set free. The murderers will still be out free.
@@Peregrine86 Who are the murderers?
Don't forget the hair on the back bumper of her Lexus that traveled 60 mi in a blizzard on a flatbed, and yet there it is almost falling off the car in the photo when I got to the police Sally port.
It was frozen until is was thawing in the Sally port.
@ms.lethal614 I can see that happening, sure ,but there would be more than just one hair hanging in the wind like they showed.
One hair that wasn’t tested for DNA. Right! So much coverup!!
@@ms.lethal614The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@@SHADOWBLACKs650The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
Guilty 💯
Innocent until proven guilty
She may have done it, although I do not think she did, given JOk's injuries *no consistent with MVA. More consistent with a beating. Lacerations (not abrasions!!) appear to have been done by a dog. Investigation is a dog's breakfast. What could Canton Police be more worried about disclosing on their phones, THAN A BLOODY MURDER OF A GOOD MATE AND BROTHER IN BLUE? That is the question.
Guilty
WHy? Proof?
Did they recover glass at all from INSIDE the tail light that cracked open?
She called in the morning and said he was dead for all she knew he was still at the party. Case closed guilty
What if someone called her.
“For all she knew”. Sounds much more like she was pissed he didn’t come home rather than an admission of murder.
@@BookMama72 something simple. Not worth killing someone.
He had underage children at home. He didn’t come home that night. He had no reason to assume Karen would be at his house after the argument, watching the kids while he was out partying. It was unlike him to leave unsupervised kids all by themselves overnight. Any reasonable person would assume something went wrong.
Okay just forget about the fact that Jennifer McCabe was googling up hos long to die in cold at 2 something in the morning.🙄🙄
Karens team knows if they create enough reasonable doubt in this case...the killer will walk free...she doesnt want to stop to talk to any reporters...shady imo for someone who claims they are innocent...smiling everyday in court...u know that fake smile
The day KR is convicted will be the very first moment there is Justice for John O'Keefe.
How is it that blood was found on the snow (red cup collection) yet the huge red tail light plastic pieces were under the snow? 🤔
John was bleeding over time. Duh
@@Barb417 fair enough. What about the leaf blower? Why did it not reveal any chunky red plastic bits in the snow?
When Karen read gave CPR o’keefe’s blood was coming out if his mouth and nose
@@lananv6154they were under snow with o’keefe as she him right as the storm started
@lananv6154 It was a blizzard. Pieces landed at 12:30. 6 hours later buried by then. Ever been in a blizzard?
Is a bit funny. How her name is Karen as well😂😂😂
Its a simple drunken hit and run.
😂 Dense
I actually agree. I think she hit him on accident (being blasted) and he was injured but very much alive and the plow came and killed him. I’m just surprised they think he died from being hit at 25 mph. I was hit by a car going 50 mph and I’m alive.
Where did all his blood go?
Why google at 2:30am?
25:00 ish he is spreading misinformation about the glass found on the bumper.
That one piece of glass is that one piece of glass and it matters.
If John O’Keefe hit the tail light with the glass it makes perfect sense.
I believe it was the glass -
Karen’s glass so she wouldn’t have an open container in the vehicle driving home drunker than a skunk 🦨
And John had it in his hand and was going to bring it inside.
But he didn’t make it in with the glass.
Rest In Peace Officer John O’Keefe 🙏🏽🌹⚖️
Your beautiful family has shown up everyday to fight for Justice for you.
😔 💔🫂
Karen Read now is in love with her lawyer.
Some of you really love to fantasize about her life. Weird
Stop messing with my future wife
@@fernandaacosta2525 shes mine ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I have a feeling that little miss can’t be wrong is in love with any man of the week..lol Don’t bother with negative people,they can be so mean, it makes me not want to even write a comment and I do try to see all sides of the story but you and I know she ran him over in her drunken fit of rage..when this trial is over let’s message each other again so we can say ,We told you so.. take care,stay well and always happy ..
PERFECT NARCISSISTIC PAIR -
When you have million-dollar lawyers they will cast a doubt remember OJ trial
That's not what got OJ off.
SIMPLE IT'S A COVERUP WHY IT DONT MAKE SENSE
I just started following this case, and tbh the PUBLIC’S REACTION is the most fascinating part of all this lol.
The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
I think it was an accident and she tried to cover her butt because she knows she was drunk. Instead she calls on Turtle Boy to run interference and create lies and misinformation to blame a cover up and the people who lived in the house. I think the prosecution has the DNA and evidence. It’s not his fault that the small town did a crappy job of investigating the case.
I totally agree with you !
This! Yes!
Hero-Smearo - she drove drunk and committed vehicular homicide. RIP John O'Keefe.
Oh I hate this case. She will walk free, but she did it. I am not sure if it was a murder though, more like drunk hit and run by a frustrated woman who used her car instead of breaking some plates to relieve her anger.
She hit him by accident & drunk and then they wanted to go too big - intentional murder
Agreed. Self-inflicted wound. I hope that they drop this charge for the 2nd trial.
Your panelist is a qualified attorney and who is the other? A random Massachusetts resident ready to defund police?
cry harder...
Another day closer until Read rots in jail.
😂 FREE KAREN READ!
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Never gonna happen, bud. So much DOUBT.
"Hos long till jury votes Not guilty?"
@@WhiteRhino. this gave me a good chuckle! 🤭
Amen!!! 🙏
Dog bites. Riddle me that.
💥
Dog just like cell phones.. re-home
@@fleck36 in English?
No dog dna keep your riddles to yourself
No proof of what was even swabbed. But if you want to go with that, then explain the PIG DNA they did find. Seems y'all want to ignore that.
They explain every single tiny piece away but in reality it can’t all be planted get real!
she killed him...its the glass from his glass
She's guilty, each trial day it's more and more apparent she hit john okeefe and left him to die alone in the cold
It's been 4+ weeks and there's still no chain of custody of anything. The taillight the next morning was in the same condition that they "put together" and still missing the same piece.
Yall are watching a different trial I think
Guilty !
You should really start watching the trial; might help you avoid saying goofy stuff like this.
@@ballen787what are you saying exactly? that they should let facts interfere with their emotions? please come to your sense! 😅😅
An inoccent person dosnt erase ring doorbell footage.
3 cops erased their phones, so.......
and where is the proof of that sunshine?
Huh? Why are you spreading misinformation she had no access to the ring footage and it was been proven by the police in trial today that she had no access to it.
The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
@@noodlesmom01that lady is foolish she did not even have access to the ring footage and the police even testified that she had no access to it so she did not erase it
like the cops?
The McAlberts are 100% to blame. This case is a shitshow they started. FKR
Karen Read didn’t deserve to have this man . The fact that he took his brothers kids to look after them , that tells me he was a very kind man . She was a very selfish person her actions in the court and her lapping up all the fans outside .
Seeing and hearing all the pictures and videos she has the same face know Emotions at all.
Sitting with her pen and flicking through papers dose she think she’s part of the Lawyer team.
Don’t like her mannerisms and attitude. 😳😳😳😳
I've been wondering about her mouth also...I cannot stand her ways also.....she's guilty as hell in my own opinion..
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Do you want her to cry the entire time? What facial expression is she supposed to make for 8 hours? She is thanking people for their support. That’s it.
yea shes a monster....
You are a petty woman and you sound very uneducated, especially with trial coverage.
Glass inconclusive cause the glass is too small but the small fragments on his clothes is consistent this is all bullshit I’m not even a lawyer 😂 what a joke
Bodily injuries have to match cause of death. Cause of death is consistent with being beaten to death and if you are trying to assert that Karen did that then I have a lot of concerns for you. The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
How long does it take to die in the cold Guilty,Guilty,Guilty
Who is guilty? Karen didn't Google that. McCabe did.
You have no brains and you dare to announce it to the world
Nick is right on i thought the same thing thank you nick u are loved❤
Yes it's Common Sense CASE
She was Driving Drunk, and They Said She Was Drinking Tall Drinks and a Shot
Is it common sense that someone who has no evidence of being hit by a car.....was killed by a car?
You people are delusional
Common sense is "someone said so?" So if I say you robbed a bank, they should arrest you and lock you up? Really? If that's common sense maybe you should try critical thinking.
She had 6 shots in well under an hour she’s a blackout drunk
A lot of people in that house were driving drunk.
Plevin looks like hes about to foam at the mouth while nick is stating facts hahahahaa
What is plevin?
Would be straight forward case, till you hire a seedy high profile lawyer. once KR sobered up and it hit her. She realized the consequences. She was an angry, unstable, jealous drunk. Why people can’t see this is crazy. The evidence should be shown in court because if they don’t because of the way they collected it and she gets off; would be sad to see her get away with this.
Karen Read is guilty and I think her father has played a role in her story which is not true?
All spastics are allowed to comment on a trial they don't follow
I can’t get my head around why you are not talking to the panel about today’s events only and bringing up garbage conspiracies that were disproven weeks ago. Looks like the so called independent and honest media is gone to what sells. Isn’t that what you blamed big media of doing?
Nick you’re making no sense lol😂 the lab got a bag of debris😂 do you have any common sense?
KRs behavior speaks volumes about her character and motivations, she’s fooling people and it’s disgusting, disgraceful.
So the entire witness list from the prosecution are All conspiring against her? I say no, she’s really not that important, much less innocent.
Still shocking she is charged with murder 2.....not some simple hit and run/involuntary manslaughter
They pay them pink army to stand there ...
100% GUILTY
Kevin is the only one making any sense on here. Per usual.
Yep. And people saying "where's the evidence" need to get their eyes checked. We've been hearing clear evidence that she did it from the beginning of this trial. And we heard about the most damning evidence today. The taillight.
It's an interesting case but you have to be unhinged to become so obsessed you will stand outside waving banners etc. It's obvious she is responsible for his death, it's just a question of intent.
They seem like people who need a leader and want to feel like they are a part of something. It’s sad.
This case is like a lifetime movie😳
I just see no motive for any of the defenses 3 proposed suspects...
Tho those text were cringy as h*ll for both parties 😂 imagine being middle aged and saying "your hot" 😝 oh lawd
Time to surrender Nick when Plevin Zings you🤣🤣
I always believe that Karen was innocent, but as the days go by, my gut feeling is she did it. I still can’t get over the texts that she was sending to that man. (Can’t remember his name as there are too many in this trial) Just something about her doesn’t sit well with me anymore. Justice for Officer John O’Keefe. 🙏🌷
Guilty of accidental death by vehicle and alcohol.
Don't underestimate the dumbness of an average American
something wrong with gerage footage, that video show people just "dissapear" like footage missing
I don’t think she intentionally tried to kill him. I think if she did it, it was accidental. Charging her with murder is too much of a stretch.
What about leaving him there to die ? That’s the most horrific part. She could have saved him. Probably headed home smiling instead.
@@stevenprice6957 maybe she didn’t realize that she hit him. I just don’t think she hit him intentionally IF she did!
Car evidence will show she put car in reverse and aimed at him. Same as pointing a gun. That's why she's charged with 2nd degree.
I agree if it happened that way. We need to see how the prosecution is claiming this happened. Because the defense is calling three experts that the FBI used that determined there is no way possible she could have hit John Okeefe. The prosecution will have to show how J.O. only sustained injuries to his head and scratches on his arm. I think they are claiming the cocktail glass scratched his arm but wouldn't he have glass in his arm? Sooo many questions. We need to see more to determine it. It's hard to rely on this evidence that was all bundled up in a car for weeks together.
@stevenprice6957 seriously? Have you watched the trial? Or heard the 911 calls played? She was hysterical. I wasn't sure about this case but when I heard her screams and pleads when she found him opened my eyes a little more. She is a good actress if so. Smiling on her way home? That is a bold statement based on the prosecution which has not proven anything at this point.
If the court would put in a full week and fewer sidebars!!! I've never seen a trial take so many days off and a sidebar every other minute! Ridiculous!!
The state made it a difficult case by over charging
Agreed. Self-inflicted wound. I think that Read is guilty of manslaughter/dui but not murder 2.
You forget the organizer PROCTER HE HAS HIS HANDS IN EVERYTHING. HE SHOULD HAVE STEPPED BACK
He fully disclosed his sisters friend was the homeowners brothers wife’s friend. You don’t get to just choose not to do your job 🤦🏻♀️ the connection is so far removed there was no conflict
How did the tail light glass get on the front lawn near the body if she was supposedly backing into him in the streets ??
It’s called a plow
@@Jewels_has_arrived Maybe two or three pieces, but not everything.... kind of like that magic hair that went 60 mi in a blizzard on a flatbed and yet there it is dangling off the back of a car.
@@SHADOWBLACKs650 I did an experiment 3 days ago. I broke a glass and spread the pieces on my grooved bumper. I drove over 145 miles, 80 of it being highway driving, and guess what….60% of the glass was still there on the 3rd day, and there wasn’t snow and ice on top of it 🤷🏻♀️ Hair sticks to cars like a ballon sticks to the wall after rubbing it on your head. Add water and it’s like glue! You really believe they would plant a single hair on the side of a vehicle in hopes that it would stay there and be found?! Give me a break lol
@Jewels_has_arrived just as ridiculous as phones butt dialing that require facial recognition or a fingerprint to unlock....
@@Jewels_has_arrivedexactly
I feel so bad for this poor little girl
Nick Pocolocorocco needs to get a real job bwahaha
Were there markings on the car she supposedly backed into that they say broke the taillight? Did they measure the height on the vehicle she supposedly backed into at which the taillight broke? There would transfer of paint or a scraping and taillight pieces there by the car she supposedly hit.
Vinnie it still is very simple and straightforward..
She had a broken taillight and her boyfriend is found dead at the side of the ROAD!!
If you apply Occam's razor to the case then it's simple...she hit him.
Occam's razor... the explanation that requires the fewest assumptions is usually correct one the more assumptions you need to make
the more unlikely it is to be the correct explanation.
Karen hitting John requires the fewest assumptions when coming up with an explanation for what happened to him.
Can you imagine turning up to the trial for a man's murder, a man she claimed to love with a smile... sorry that's psychopathic.
Whether innocent or guilty, framed or not there's nothing to smile about..because John is still dead being innocent doesn't change that fact.
She comes across as cold, ruthless and unsympathetic her behaviour is completely inappropriate smiling laughing and turning around making faces and speaking to her family.
The fact that she can't see just how inappropriate that behaviour is reveals her true character which is
somehow who appears more than capable of doing what she's accused of doing.
Not to mention her screaming "Go f yourself!" at the top of her lungs in Aruba. That shows her temper and volatile nature clearly. As does her sending him so many texts and calling him a bunch as Lauren testified to. It's classic controlling abusive behavior. Reminds me of how Johnny Depp tried to hide in bathrooms to get space from Amber Heard, but she pounded on the door and refused to leave him alone.
Why can’t people understand this basic concept? People have lost critical thinking skills
So she intentionally orphaned 2 kids that she was like a stepmom to for almost 2 years?! Because those are the allegations - she intentionally did it. GTFOH
I was in the same situation back in the days. I babysit while he goes out to work dinner and slept around. I was furious but my revenge was not murder. I showed him how much I was better off without him. Today, I’m still talking and catching up with his children but not him.
She did not kill him. The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen