I know this video vas posted ages ago, but great job, I feel that Yoshi can benefit from FD as well due to being able to make better use of eggs, and making it harder for opponents to avoid his rundown style gameplay.
Great information. I wish you had put videos of the actual stages you were talking about as it was hard to follow (casual player getting into competitive). Stage selection was definitely part of my down fall when I first got into the competitive scene back when SSBB came out.
As a luigi main I think that platforms are good for countering projectile spam characters because it adds more mixup and escape options, also Luigi struggles with getting juggled. It really depends on matchup but battlefield also helps with covering every option on a platform tech chase with down b.
@ScoutKirby yes and no, platforms make robs nair (imo his best move) that much better. But fd does make his neutral shine. I would say def one of the stadiums is his best stage in any scenario, but for online yes fd. Online projectiles are buffed because lag and combos (nair and fair shenanigans) are nerfed so fd for sure
For any Bayo main here, which I doubt anyone is, Battlefield, Town and City, and Yoshi's are her best stages. Town and Yoshi both have small blastzones with platforms to extend her combos. Battlefield just has platforms :)
That’s tricky for me since I’m not the best Roy, but I would say he generallyyy wants platforms just so he can’t get camped as easily and to give him more approach options, but I imagine fd can help Roy’s punish game in a lot of matchups. I would probably just counter pick against your opponents character for Roy, like his best stage should depend on who you’re up against. Definitely check and ask the Roy discord though (haven’t been there but I’m sure someone there would be happy to help lol)
@SonicHaXD thanks! Its just referring to the middle platform on battlefield. The two lower ones on either sides are side platforms, middle one closer to the ceiling is the top one. Its only a thing on battlefield and similar tri-platform layouts. If you want to know what top platform camping is look at a game of wizzrobe vs hbox in melee on dream land, and for ladder combos it’s just smash 4 bayo/zss ko off the top shenanigans (both are still a thing in this game to varying extents)
Probably BF and/or t&c for Mario and ps2 or smashville for dk. They both don’t care too much about the stage; especially Mario who gets better combos off small platforms but easier camping on big stages, while dk doesn’t like kalos or bf usually imo cuz camping and combos. Definitely matchup dependent
@Rujito against projectiles probably bf or smashville, if not probably fd. Online between fd and bf, i would personally go bf. But If you attend tournaments just ban Lylat every single goshdarn time and you’re golden lol
Would greninja benefit more from fd because of sherukin and speed or bf because of his aerial attacks with a few of them being combos and kill confirms?
Yooo sorry just saw this. I think battlefield personally, although as samus I would probably still pick bf against gren because it doesn’t favor him that much. I prefer the stadium layout as gren when I do (albeit rarely nowadays) play him
For Ridley I like smashville, town and city, and fd maybe but he’s pretty matchup dependent in terms of stages. Jiggs I honestly don’t know, I’ve played maybe 20 minutes of puff in this game lol but they seem to like fd over battlefield from what I’ve seen.
For Samus most definitely battlefield (unless you’re against a character who likes bf even more) but all the stadium layouts and TC are great for her too. For pit I would say stadium layouts, but I feel like he doesn’t care too much about stage; probably likes TC though
Battlefield for zss and probably Zelda, stadium for peach and Zelda, smashville and town and city works decently for both. Peach probably also likes fd against a lot of characters so that plats can’t mess up combos, but for Zelda and zss plats help combos significantly
@shopping cart probably lylat, t&c, and smashville. The platform layouts all work really well with Kirby imo, with lylat making it easy to juggle, gimp, and not get camped. T&c plats also help getting kills and mixing up recovery. Smashville is also pretty good for forcing close range grab/dair tech chase opportunities and stuff. Between fd and bf it’s a toss up but probably fd against close ranges characters and bf against campier ones
@Mate I would definitely say bf over fd, but otherwise I like t&c with shiek. Disclaimer I’m a trash shiek so I don’t know for sure, but it definitely seems like shiek likes platforms both for combos and for getting earlier ko’s
@@Dr.Jay. Small Blastzones at the sides (and big down zones i guess) but i don't know what is better for a heavie small stage so he can kill ealierer and survive "lesser" (sry for my bad english) or big stages for longer surviving and killing relatively early
@Lars Fischer big or small depends on the opponents character. For example against samus you want small stages because samus can keep dedede away easily, but against someone like Luigi you would want a bigger stage so you have space.
remember kids if you’re playing Ridley or Wario literally always pick Bridge of Eldin
Nahhh all about the Isabelle projectile and rod spam
I know this video vas posted ages ago, but great job, I feel that Yoshi can benefit from FD as well due to being able to make better use of eggs, and making it harder for opponents to avoid his rundown style gameplay.
This video helped a lot, I've been trying to step up my game with Ike recently, so this was really informative!*
These are great tips man. Keep up the great content.
Great information. I wish you had put videos of the actual stages you were talking about as it was hard to follow (casual player getting into competitive).
Stage selection was definitely part of my down fall when I first got into the competitive scene back when SSBB came out.
Fantastic video on a very overlooked topic!
As a luigi main I think that platforms are good for countering projectile spam characters because it adds more mixup and escape options, also Luigi struggles with getting juggled. It really depends on matchup but battlefield also helps with covering every option on a platform tech chase with down b.
This video was super useful, thank you!
These are really good videos keep up the great work
I'm guessing ROB benefits the most out of FD, since its more of a projectile based character. Could you clarify, or let me know if I'm missing any?
@ScoutKirby yes and no, platforms make robs nair (imo his best move) that much better. But fd does make his neutral shine. I would say def one of the stadiums is his best stage in any scenario, but for online yes fd. Online projectiles are buffed because lag and combos (nair and fair shenanigans) are nerfed so fd for sure
The best stage for ROB is Town and City, but I think a better neutral is better than making a move better
Pls whats the best for ness
What is da music used in ur vid.
Also good vid btw. Somtimes i forget to choose stages wisely.
For any Bayo main here, which I doubt anyone is,
Battlefield, Town and City, and Yoshi's are her best stages.
Town and Yoshi both have small blastzones with platforms to extend her combos. Battlefield just has platforms :)
Thanks for the tip. I wasn't sure if platforms were great for her or not as I'm starting to learn her a little bit.
Very informative
Really interesting and informative, I’m still wondering what’s best for Roy?
That’s tricky for me since I’m not the best Roy, but I would say he generallyyy wants platforms just so he can’t get camped as easily and to give him more approach options, but I imagine fd can help Roy’s punish game in a lot of matchups. I would probably just counter pick against your opponents character for Roy, like his best stage should depend on who you’re up against. Definitely check and ask the Roy discord though (haven’t been there but I’m sure someone there would be happy to help lol)
smashvile is good for roy
This was a very useful video.
Great content man ty
What about K. Rool?
i got to the great conclussion that every Simon/Richter looks like the player is braindead.
Any walkoff stage works for Little Mac
skip to @2:00 for the meat
Great vid!!! I've got a question, 12:03 what exactly does "top platform camp" mean??? XD
@SonicHaXD thanks! Its just referring to the middle platform on battlefield. The two lower ones on either sides are side platforms, middle one closer to the ceiling is the top one. Its only a thing on battlefield and similar tri-platform layouts. If you want to know what top platform camping is look at a game of wizzrobe vs hbox in melee on dream land, and for ladder combos it’s just smash 4 bayo/zss ko off the top shenanigans (both are still a thing in this game to varying extents)
What would you say for joker?
There’s so little information on Jiggs and the Miis
What’s best for link
What are the best stages for Puff and Ridley?
With stage hazards which stage is the best for ness?
Sorry for bothering but what’s the best stages for Mario and DK
Probably BF and/or t&c for Mario and ps2 or smashville for dk. They both don’t care too much about the stage; especially Mario who gets better combos off small platforms but easier camping on big stages, while dk doesn’t like kalos or bf usually imo cuz camping and combos. Definitely matchup dependent
@@Dr.Jay. thank you, you just earned a sub you're a real goat.
What would be the best legal stage for GnW?
Which one would be best for bowser.jr?
You know whats best for Luigi ???
@Rujito against projectiles probably bf or smashville, if not probably fd. Online between fd and bf, i would personally go bf. But If you attend tournaments just ban Lylat every single goshdarn time and you’re golden lol
Donkey Kong and Young Link?
But what about MK
Would greninja benefit more from fd because of sherukin and speed or bf because of his aerial attacks with a few of them being combos and kill confirms?
Yooo sorry just saw this. I think battlefield personally, although as samus I would probably still pick bf against gren because it doesn’t favor him that much. I prefer the stadium layout as gren when I do (albeit rarely nowadays) play him
@@Dr.Jay. Thanks
What are some good stages for Ridley and Jiggs?
For Ridley I like smashville, town and city, and fd maybe but he’s pretty matchup dependent in terms of stages. Jiggs I honestly don’t know, I’ve played maybe 20 minutes of puff in this game lol but they seem to like fd over battlefield from what I’ve seen.
what’s the best stage for like pit and samus?
For Samus most definitely battlefield (unless you’re against a character who likes bf even more) but all the stadium layouts and TC are great for her too. For pit I would say stadium layouts, but I feel like he doesn’t care too much about stage; probably likes TC though
Joker?
What stages are good for Zelda, ZSS, and Peach?
Battlefield for zss and probably Zelda, stadium for peach and Zelda, smashville and town and city works decently for both. Peach probably also likes fd against a lot of characters so that plats can’t mess up combos, but for Zelda and zss plats help combos significantly
@@Dr.Jay. ok. Thankyou.
Falco?
@Ryan Thompson battlefield over fd any day, and probably town and city would be really good
Cool video but what are these gameplay lmao
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Me too, imma get some grub.
@@cyrusbrown2275 how was the grub
@@ramonjr160 It was alright, hard to remember the taste as to how this was 3 months ago lol.
@@cyrusbrown2275 lol I know
@@ramonjr160 4 months later, HoW wAs YoUr GrUb
Pichu?
how about kirby?
@shopping cart probably lylat, t&c, and smashville. The platform layouts all work really well with Kirby imo, with lylat making it easy to juggle, gimp, and not get camped. T&c plats also help getting kills and mixing up recovery. Smashville is also pretty good for forcing close range grab/dair tech chase opportunities and stuff. Between fd and bf it’s a toss up but probably fd against close ranges characters and bf against campier ones
@@Dr.Jay. ok, thanks
Shiek?
@Mate I would definitely say bf over fd, but otherwise I like t&c with shiek. Disclaimer I’m a trash shiek so I don’t know for sure, but it definitely seems like shiek likes platforms both for combos and for getting earlier ko’s
Shiek is def Town and City, BF and Kalos. Anything that has platforms help you a lot, so anything but FD
WHATS THE BEST STAGE FOR TERRY
UM SMASHVILLE CUZ SMOL STAGE AND PLAT FOR UP B
Actually not sure lol plats against zoners and fd against heavies and stuff, but frankly I’m not comfortable enough with the archetype to say for sure
Ok thanks
Anyone have advice for counterpicking a small character such as pikachu
420th like! lol
What about Dedede ?
I would probably say town and city, and fd over battlefield online, but I’m not a great d3 so i don’t know too much about what he wants in a stage.
@@Dr.Jay. Small Blastzones at the sides (and big down zones i guess) but i don't know what is better for a heavie small stage so he can kill ealierer and survive "lesser" (sry for my bad english) or big stages for longer surviving and killing relatively early
@Lars Fischer big or small depends on the opponents character. For example against samus you want small stages because samus can keep dedede away easily, but against someone like Luigi you would want a bigger stage so you have space.
The platform layout is more important than size for d3 I think
@@Dr.Jay. K thanks
Best for yoshi anyone?
Ok this video is cool but theres nothing more annoying than a teabagger. Im sorry dude no hate