@@abiodun-b9 they’ve lived in England for generations though, so they’d meet the eligibility criteria for being players. Tuchel first lived in England in his 40’s so I don’t think that’s a good comparison
What an absurd argument, was everyone who fought for Britain in ww2 British? Are we not allowed to accept that win cos 2.5m Indians a fought the Japanese? People have genuinely lost their minds, worrying stuff
Yes, countless from the empire and from other countries such as Poland in particular fought under the British flag, and did so gallantly and should be commemorated just the same as UK-born personnel. War analogies are deeply insulting to their memory.
I mean just for one example, one of Idris Elba's grandfathers was a sailor in the merchant navy for the British; his other grandfather was a soldier for the US Army as he was born in Kansas.
@@MrWillyMrBrightside wtf are you waffling on about? I’m saying the opposite of what you think I am. I am well aware of the polish contribution to the British armed forces especially the RAF.
@@MrWillyMrBrightside who cares! My point was that just because your nation achieves greatness with foreigners doesn’t mean that it doesn’t count as an English win & I used ww2 & the biggest volunteer army (India) in history to prove that point. We don’t say India won in the east we say Britain won in the east.
I bet that if the ‘Golden Generation’ had won the World Cup under Sven we would all be absolutely fine with it. People are just jumping on the media frenzy that he’s German. Pathetic.
That’s club football though to be fair. All players can be any nationality in club football. National football really should be all managers and staff of each nationality against each other, like it is players. I know there’s no rules on it, but I get what he’s saying. I don’t understand why it’s only players that have to be from the nation they’re playing for, as managers are very important as well and the whole point is it’s supposed to be one country versus another, no?
@@oufc90 well the players dont have to be from the nation so i guess that answers your question. Can be a team of 11 players from 11 different countries but their fathers and mothers are from those specific countries.
@@horacebinns8069 okay, of course that’s an extreme example and hasn’t happened, but they still need to be eligible through family at least then. I think the managers should at least have the same eligibility criteria as the players do is what I mean
But it's not xenophobic in any way. Its about the whole concept of international football being the best of English against the best of xyz being undermined..and your erroneous point about xenophobia is irrelevant.
@@Edward-cv2gw Like the current Italian and the former Spaniard managing Belgium? Or the host of Argentines managing most of South America? Or the countless number of past teams with foreign managers? Your concept of international football has been getting undermined for decades
Remember dutchman Guus Hiddink coaching South Korea to a semifinal in 2002 ? Was wild , and a huge achievement for the sport and its popularity in South Korea 👍
@@Edward-cv2gwIt’s clearly xenophobia. Don’t forget that it was only last week everyone was salivating over the idea of Pep taking the England job, but now it’s a problem because the manager is German. Utter nonsense
With that logic if Arsenal win the Premier League this season it means nothing because most of the Arsenal players aren’t from London. Chris is an idiot
Besides FIFA's nationality rules are very lax. You don't have to be born here in England to play for England, hence why Guéhi plays for England rather than Ivory Coast, where he was born. There's plenty of teams that rely heavily on England-born players especially Scotland, Wales, both Irish teams.
He does have a point though.. If roles were reversed and an english manager won the world cup with germany, most english people would take the credit saying you won it cuz of OUR ENGLISH MANAGER
32 Years of Premier League, 0 English manager winning the trophy. However, somehow, some people want to appoint a manager from England while none is winning material
Two things can be true at the same time. It's true that Tuchel is a very good top manager and the FA are very fortunate to have signed him. It's also true that it's unfortunate that England doesn't have a good setup for developing world class coaches like other FAs do, and I hope that the English FA implements reforms to counter-act this.
I agree a manager of an international club should be from the country but that isn’t the rules unfortunately and tuchel is an amazing appointment one of the best around
Totally agree. Tuchel is a great signing under the current rules and I hope we do well with him. But in general, I think an international competition should have managers and staff from that country. Makes it a real international competition.
@@Edward-cv2gw xenophobia is a dislike or prejudice against someone from another country. It sounds like all of these fans don't want Tuchel because he's GERMAN. not because of his credentials... he's the best man for the job it's such bullshit. give Tuchel a knighthood if he wins the world cup, that MY manager.
@@TheJWRB Wrong. I actually have connections to Germany and I love the country and the German people on the whole but I want an English manager at the helm of the English national team because that's how it's supposed to be. The whole point of international football is nationality!!
I get it now...these anti-Tuchel England "fans" feel humiliated their national coach is German. lol the absolute arrogance and ignorance. No wonder there's no good England managers.
@@antoinedoinell England have a long historical footballing rivalry with Germany and the arrogance and ignorance is mostly coming from the people ignoring that fact, everyone should feel humiliated that there is a German manager of England. You might be cool with it but you should still feel humiliated as it’s humiliating.
The FA interviewed 10 candidates and decided on tuchel. So how many English managers didn’t make the cut? And let’s say they did apoint an English manager and they get knocked out in the group stages. What happens then? What are you guys guys gonna be crying about then?
Playing a little devils advocate here... Just think about the "question" they asked.. Are you happy with T.T. or would you have prefered an Englishman.. They already had their own answer and shredded anyone who's opinion differed calling them xenophobes and racists.. If you dont want answers dont ask the effin question!!! Talk about STUPID PILLS.. It was Stupid & Naive to think everybody was gonna just agree with them!! I think 1 out of the 1st 6 callers actually agreed with Jamie and Cundy! A question I didnt hear asked by any of the callers was If T.T. didnt manage Chelsea to a CL title would Cundy have cared as much? Did he shed a tear during Brexit. I think TT is the right choice and we can win with him and people are gonna be pissed that hes German and not English.. They have to get over that fact.. But everybody is allowed their own opinion as stupid as the boys may think it is!! Club football is kinda different to the Natl team.. Theres been a foreign influx in the league for decades players and managers and lots of them.. We have had 2 foreign managers in over a hundred years.. ( I loved them both.. especially Sven.. He managed the glorious Leicester City and England)
Exactly. Nationality cannot be separated from international football, it's the whole point and purpose of it! So many people seem to have forgotten this.
Don't agree with that caller but the comparison with club football is silly, Arsenal are a private company .... they're literally owned by an American and don't represent the 'best from Highbury', National teams are supposed to showcase the best of that country wether that includes the manager is up for debate.
It's an even worse example when you consider that Arsenal were a south London team who migrated to north London. I don't think national teams can migrate like that!
Hmm I do agree with chris in ways. I think if an english manager won the world cup with the USA team for example. You well know there would be a show on talk sport about how they needed english aid. But Tuchel is brill and if germans wanna sneer and take the piss after we win, then thats their prerogative.
@@MarkBailey-i6n lesson 1 for idiots. If I said I didn't want a German washing my car,that would be xenophobic..because his nationality has nothing to do with the job I've hired him for...if I say I don't want a German running my England national football team(clue is in the name) that's not xenophobic as his nationality is an intrinsic part of the job. Read that slowly,absorb it understand it and you'll learn.
Theres nothing at all wrong or illogical about saying the English national football team and its English players and fans should be managed by an English manager. Thats a pretty straightforward and logical position. Whats more irrational and questionable is to say its the English national team but weve also incorporated in a few foreign men and women too.
I'm at a loss mate. We're on the same page, but people have lost the plot, they've forgotten the whole point and purpose of international football. It's slowly becoming more and more meaningless in tandem with people getting more and more dumbed down and disconnected from any sense of integrity and authenticity. We're happy apparently to gradually have our identity taken away from us. I despair to be honest.
I do like Cundy and O'Hara trying to twist it into because hes German, when the caller clearly stated. Its not because hes German. Its because hes not English and that he had the same issue with Sven and Capello. Same as i did. But yet gonna completely ignore it and just call the guy Xenophobic 😂😂 outrageous..
I get where you're coming from. Ideally the manager of the England national team should be English. However, Surely it should be about best in class. Is there a better manger than Tuchel? Who was the last English manager to win the Premier League/Champions league? You'd prefer it if England won nothing than have a foreign manger😂
@@alifarahpour3644if I was to offer you a English manager that has won a domestic treble and only missed out on the quadruple by losing the final of the Champions League with a honours list of 7 league titles 5 FA cups 2 league cup and the Olympic gold medal would you think twice about excepting the opportunity of this English manager to take over the international team.
@@alifarahpour3644 well you might have a problem with the fact the manager is a woman who has just taken over the USA women team and leading them straight to the gold medal in the Olympic Games
@@liberalslayer7220 You've just proved my point. I don't have a problem with Tuchel being the England manager. I'm sure the Americans don't have an issue about Emma Hayes being the manager of US women's national team. It's about best manger for the job regardless of nationality. Im 100 percent sure there wouldn't be this debate if Pep became the England manager
If they're saying it's only about the English players, and it doesn't matter who the manager is, then why pay circa £7m salary, to an elite manager, for it not to matter. Don't have any manager then! Tuchel, for me, is likely to make International football for England potentially exciting. Wasn't Grealish playing for Ireland at one point.....
There may be some xenophobia masked in the discourse but I dnt think this fella is showing any. It's not outrageous to want coaches to be from the country they represent - and it's certainly not inherently xenophobic.
100% correct. The way they're trying to frame this just tells me they're pushing some corporate media agenda. I could tell that at the start of the show with O'Hara's rant.
I think the biggest issue is the lack of English managers and this needs to be looked at. Im happy with a foreign manager but would much prefer an English manager and that would mean we would have more good English managers. On another call in England to get your coaching badge here its thousands and in Germany its 500 euros or something like that
Do you want the best English Manager or the best manager for England? As an American did I want the best American Manager or the best manager for America? That's why I was elated when Mauricio Pochettino as USMNT.
And who enabled that almost xenophobic view on Tuchel?!? Flip flop people like Neville, Carragher, Redknapp etc… Neville who is always talking about respect and blah blah blah… shameful
If these fans won't credit Tuchel for winning for us, then they better not watch the games either. At that point it's lose-lose. If we win, they lose. If we lose, they still lose. So do us a favour, don't watch England play. Because you're a joke and you're just watching to lose.
It's not xenophobic, international football is about different nations competing against other. We shouldn't be entitled to an elite manger from a different nationality just because we have an amazing squad. We should have to make do with the best English manager available. It's cheating.
The guy is talking as if the Luftwaffe was still flying overhead. There is a reason english coaches are so rare outside the english league system... you have to speak a second language besides english..
Nah they're right and Chris's way of thinking is why England has nothing to show for themselves in 50+ years. This attitude is also a cancer to society and responsible for a lot of problems going on right now
@@robhernandez5520 You cannot separate nationality from international football I'm afraid, it's the whole point. Calling people cancerous for wanting an English manager is itself very toxic so you should check yourself before pointing the finger at others.
@@joshuaw9675 No we didn't. I believe the English manager should always be English. I believe the manager of every national team should be from that nation. That's the whole point of international football = nationality. I don't want Pep, I don't want Klopp, I want an English manager for the England national team which is how it is meant to be, nothing wrong with that whatsoever, it's completely rational and reasonable.
I will hold my hands up I’m not happy he’s German international football should be each countries best players and best manager. 😂 PS would Germany have an English manager..?
I could not care less what nationality the England manager is! It's about getting the best we can at the time and taking this talented group of England players to a final and winning !! Simple as that and I do believe T.T will do that! Be it straight away or the euros or world cup after if he gets given the time! As a Coventry fan I don't know what that bloke was on about 😂 mark Robins is a good manager and he's a legend for cov but that's about it 😅
You do realise the entire point and purpose of international football is nationality, right? I mean, that is the very essence of international football, our best testing their football skills against their best. It is very clear that if nationality ceases to matter then international football becomes completely pointless and meaningless.
@@Fractalchemystical it's the not the managers playing out there on the pitch so as long as all those lads representing England play out their skins for the shirt they are wearing win lose or draw I could not care less what nationality the manager is! I want England to win 🏆 and if that means us having a coach of a different nationality to do so then so be it! Other nations have done the same so I don't see the issue! Or should I say I do see the issue that people have with Englands appointed manager because he's German and the history we have through war with them but that is nothing to do with football and people are just using that as reason to hate on T.T and the Fa.
International football is all about being xenophobic. Its like war but under a different name. Cundy and ohara suggest sven and capello were accepted with open arms. They weren't.
He is British though? Born and raised in Southampton. Attended school in Winchester and Oxford, briefly Stanford USA but I know loads of British people who study abroad. Never liked the guy myself, didn't vote for him, thought he wasn't a very good politician.
It has nothing to do with that, that's how talksport want to frame it. Corporate agenda. Trying to tell us we're wrong for wanting an English manager at the helm of the England naitonal team, which is a completely normal and rational wish.
Yeah I know, sad how lost people are that they've forgotten the whole point of international football is nationality! If that ceases to matter then international football loses all meaning and purpose. It's hard to disagree with a fact like that, but people are so deluded.
The Royal family have been in this country for generations, which would make them English and eligible for England duty under FA regulations so that breaks your pointless and irrelevant argument, unless you want to translate your agument to half the England players whose families have been in this country for much less time than the Royal family has. Anyway your silly and tedious point has got nothing to do with football.
I will like watching England again going to get the tickets to the next game, i like him, what about the Premier league managers do you not like that either 😂😂😂 get 20 English managers in then 😂😂😂
No English manager has EVER won The Premier League. Champions League-Europa league. Euros & VM. They have had some good players in the years and now. But they have never had a good manager. EVER. ( Brian Clough but a different aera) T.T. will Play better fotball then under Southgate. Southgate was terrible to watch horrible. T.T. All the way.
I’d ideally like an English manager but the caller is talking rubbish. The players are all English and are managed by a manager who is better than any English alternative. The idea you’d rather lose than win with a German manager is idiotic.
@@REEQDCIf you’re born in England, then you’re English. Stop with this political nonsense. Half of the England team are not really English if that’s where you want to go, don’t single out the black players and think that no one is going to call you out on your bs
Chris is right, International football should be sacrosanct. The reason these pundits can't get their heads around it is because they were football professionals.
errrrrrr arent you idiots about 20 yrs too late!!??? sacrosanct!!?? why werent you all sacrosanct 20 yrs ago!!!!??? so now youre all flipflopping just because german lol
@@rtk3543 The reason Germany produce coaches is because they haven't sold their league to the highest bidders. The owners in the Premier league feel no obligation to hire English coaches or hold any allegiance. This is the crux of the problem.
@@erselosman1380 I agree mate but I'm not sure these muppets in this video can't get their head around it because they were professionals. As soon as this show started with O'Hara's rant I knew they were coming at this with an agenda, they're determined to make this about the weakest and most absurd argument and argue against that, no balance. They're determined to make it about "xenophobia" and being anti-German when for a large majority of people it's not about that at all, it's just about wanting an English manager at the helm of the England national team which is a perfectly rational and normal wish. I have nothing against Germany at all, I'd feel the same with a Bulgarian, Chinese, Algerian or Mexican manager, etc, etc, I want an Englishman leading England, end of. Nationality cannot be separated from international football, it's the whole point, it becomes meaningless if nationality no longer matters. These two are just pushing the corporate media agenda.
@@rtk3543 So be it. If we can't produce a manager who is good enough then fine, we'll pick our best and give it our best shot anyway. That's what international football is all about. England have just made a Hollywood appointment out of desperation, thinking that's going to deliver a trophy, but whether it does remains to be seen. It's like going out and getting plastic surgery because you can't deal with what God gave you.
Arsenal fans aren’t the smartest of people are they 😂 everyone I’ve seen hating on tuchel so far have all been arsenal fans yet arsenals manager ain’t English either most of arsenals players aren’t English so if arsenal eventually win a trophy will arsenal not take credit?
It’s not xenophobic to want an English manager of England, and it’s not crazy to suggest that a German manager is a ridiculous choice considering Englands rivalry with them. If you want to outsource the position just get chatGPT to do it and be the first team to have an AI manager.
Do people still think a pattern recognition test is a measure of a person's intelligence? You can't measure common sense. If you could, you would surely find your own severely lacking. You don;t even have enough sense to realise that nationality is the entire basis of international football.
Btw , Wtaff , these 2 muppets sticking up for aengland for the first time in years now that a GERMAN is running the show ! Cundy tou might have a big giant head , but youve a tiny mind boy ! To go wi your tiny hands ! Hurry up Herr Cundy afore Z germanium getz eir😂
Your monarch is German too! Saxe-Gotha Coburg.
@@abiodun-b9 they’ve lived in England for generations though, so they’d meet the eligibility criteria for being players. Tuchel first lived in England in his 40’s so I don’t think that’s a good comparison
Which has nothing to do with international football.
@@oufc90 Exactly.
@@oufc90 It's a spot on comparison.
@@oufc90Many Indians/Pakistanis/Chinese/Jamaicans/... have too.
Out of Interest: How many Generations exactly does it take to be English?
Portugal has a foreign manager. A German won the Euros for Greece. Get over it.
What an absurd argument, was everyone who fought for Britain in ww2 British? Are we not allowed to accept that win cos 2.5m Indians a fought the Japanese? People have genuinely lost their minds, worrying stuff
Yes, countless from the empire and from other countries such as Poland in particular fought under the British flag, and did so gallantly and should be commemorated just the same as UK-born personnel. War analogies are deeply insulting to their memory.
I mean just for one example, one of Idris Elba's grandfathers was a sailor in the merchant navy for the British; his other grandfather was a soldier for the US Army as he was born in Kansas.
@@MrWillyMrBrightside wtf are you waffling on about? I’m saying the opposite of what you think I am. I am well aware of the polish contribution to the British armed forces especially the RAF.
@@MrWillyMrBrightside who cares! My point was that just because your nation achieves greatness with foreigners doesn’t mean that it doesn’t count as an English win & I used ww2 & the biggest volunteer army (India) in history to prove that point. We don’t say India won in the east we say Britain won in the east.
@@isthatakingfisher2931 I was agreeing with you mate hahaha
I bet that if the ‘Golden Generation’ had won the World Cup under Sven we would all be absolutely fine with it. People are just jumping on the media frenzy that he’s German. Pathetic.
Does Chris celebrate Arsenal wins if a Spaniard masterminds their premier league games?
3/4 of the Arsenal team isn’t English
That’s club football though to be fair. All players can be any nationality in club football. National football really should be all managers and staff of each nationality against each other, like it is players. I know there’s no rules on it, but I get what he’s saying. I don’t understand why it’s only players that have to be from the nation they’re playing for, as managers are very important as well and the whole point is it’s supposed to be one country versus another, no?
@@oufc90 well the players dont have to be from the nation so i guess that answers your question. Can be a team of 11 players from 11 different countries but their fathers and mothers are from those specific countries.
@@horacebinns8069 okay, of course that’s an extreme example and hasn’t happened, but they still need to be eligible through family at least then. I think the managers should at least have the same eligibility criteria as the players do is what I mean
Chris is a moron..ffs
@@horacebinns8069 okay, so 3/4 of the England team aren’t 100% English, in fact a load of them have played for different nations at u21 levels
I’m shocked and actually impressed that Jamie and Cundy called out the xenophobia so clearly and bluntly
But it's not xenophobic in any way. Its about the whole concept of international football being the best of English against the best of xyz being undermined..and your erroneous point about xenophobia is irrelevant.
@@Edward-cv2gw Like the current Italian and the former Spaniard managing Belgium? Or the host of Argentines managing most of South America? Or the countless number of past teams with foreign managers?
Your concept of international football has been getting undermined for decades
Remember dutchman Guus Hiddink coaching South Korea to a semifinal in 2002 ?
Was wild , and a huge achievement for the sport and its popularity in South Korea 👍
Bravo to them I'm ngl 👏
@@Edward-cv2gwIt’s clearly xenophobia. Don’t forget that it was only last week everyone was salivating over the idea of Pep taking the England job, but now it’s a problem because the manager is German. Utter nonsense
With that logic if Arsenal win the Premier League this season it means nothing because most of the Arsenal players aren’t from London. Chris is an idiot
Yeah maybe England should get Van Dijk in at centre back too
Besides FIFA's nationality rules are very lax. You don't have to be born here in England to play for England, hence why Guéhi plays for England rather than Ivory Coast, where he was born. There's plenty of teams that rely heavily on England-born players especially Scotland, Wales, both Irish teams.
Arsenal aren't playing against Spain
Domestic league is not the same as international. Super ac1 is an idiot
The fact you can't see a difference between a club and the national team eligibility is striking.
Not all England's players were born in England, Raheen Stirling was born in Jamaica, maybe the caller wants him out of the team too.
Gallagher is an Irish, Madueke and Saka are Nigerians, Gomes is Portuguese, Kobbie Mainoo is Ghanaian
@@fatalmonkAll of those players were born in England, therefore they’re English
All born in England
He does have a point though.. If roles were reversed and an english manager won the world cup with germany, most english people would take the credit saying you won it cuz of OUR ENGLISH MANAGER
32 Years of Premier League, 0 English manager winning the trophy. However, somehow, some people want to appoint a manager from England while none is winning material
This is a wind up , Germany and the most world cup goals scorer Miroslav Klose is basically 100% polish but he represented Germany .
Don't forget Zlatan Ibrahimović whose Bosnian-Croat parents only moved to Sweden a couple of years before he was born
@@BigAlCapwn So he was born in Sweden.
@@erselosman1380 Correct
Well done you lot for noticing that international football is becoming meaningless and slowly dying.
@@mirogeorgiev1156 He’s Half German as his dad is German. He also moved there at the age of 7 so yeah he’s pretty German is Miroslav.
Two things can be true at the same time. It's true that Tuchel is a very good top manager and the FA are very fortunate to have signed him. It's also true that it's unfortunate that England doesn't have a good setup for developing world class coaches like other FAs do, and I hope that the English FA implements reforms to counter-act this.
This wouldn't even be a conversation if Pep took the job. When Jamie O'Hara is the voice of reason you know people are off their rocker.
Going by the first callers logic Germany need Musiala who practically English to win it means zero sense. Grow up.
I agree a manager of an international club should be from the country but that isn’t the rules unfortunately and tuchel is an amazing appointment one of the best around
Totally agree. Tuchel is a great signing under the current rules and I hope we do well with him. But in general, I think an international competition should have managers and staff from that country. Makes it a real international competition.
Xenophobia is alive and well…at least Jamie called it for what it is. Good on you J
You don't even know what the word means,pipe down
@@Edward-cv2gw do you explain it to everybody
@@Edward-cv2gw xenophobia is a dislike or prejudice against someone from another country. It sounds like all of these fans don't want Tuchel because he's GERMAN. not because of his credentials... he's the best man for the job it's such bullshit. give Tuchel a knighthood if he wins the world cup, that MY manager.
@@TheJWRB isn't that international football though ? Us trying to defeat people from other countries,I thought that was the idea ?
@@TheJWRB Wrong. I actually have connections to Germany and I love the country and the German people on the whole but I want an English manager at the helm of the English national team because that's how it's supposed to be. The whole point of international football is nationality!!
Bobby Robson and Terry Venables be turning in their graves
I get it now...these anti-Tuchel England "fans" feel humiliated their national coach is German. lol the absolute arrogance and ignorance. No wonder there's no good England managers.
@@antoinedoinell England have a long historical footballing rivalry with Germany and the arrogance and ignorance is mostly coming from the people ignoring that fact, everyone should feel humiliated that there is a German manager of England. You might be cool with it but you should still feel humiliated as it’s humiliating.
The FA interviewed 10 candidates and decided on tuchel. So how many English managers didn’t make the cut? And let’s say they did apoint an English manager and they get knocked out in the group stages. What happens then? What are you guys guys gonna be crying about then?
Good point
They do know wot you mean
@@Lambert-k8u why you talking to yourself!?
Reform's support is no longer a mystery to me.
Playing a little devils advocate here... Just think about the "question" they asked.. Are you happy with T.T. or would you have prefered an Englishman.. They already had their own answer and shredded anyone who's opinion differed calling them xenophobes and racists.. If you dont want answers dont ask the effin question!!! Talk about STUPID PILLS.. It was Stupid & Naive to think everybody was gonna just agree with them!! I think 1 out of the 1st 6 callers actually agreed with Jamie and Cundy! A question I didnt hear asked by any of the callers was If T.T. didnt manage Chelsea to a CL title would Cundy have cared as much? Did he shed a tear during Brexit. I think TT is the right choice and we can win with him and people are gonna be pissed that hes German and not English.. They have to get over that fact.. But everybody is allowed their own opinion as stupid as the boys may think it is!! Club football is kinda different to the Natl team.. Theres been a foreign influx in the league for decades players and managers and lots of them.. We have had 2 foreign managers in over a hundred years.. ( I loved them both.. especially Sven.. He managed the glorious Leicester City and England)
the small minds are those idiots behind the desk, ridiculous the way they talk to people shouting xenophobia at them. who do you think you are?
Chris probably drives a German car lol
No point of national team football anymore
Exactly. Nationality cannot be separated from international football, it's the whole point and purpose of it! So many people seem to have forgotten this.
chris is clearly welsh listen to his accent closely
Don't agree with that caller but the comparison with club football is silly, Arsenal are a private company .... they're literally owned by an American and don't represent the 'best from Highbury', National teams are supposed to showcase the best of that country wether that includes the manager is up for debate.
It's an even worse example when you consider that Arsenal were a south London team who migrated to north London. I don't think national teams can migrate like that!
Cundys spending too much time with jim
Hmm I do agree with chris in ways. I think if an english manager won the world cup with the USA team for example. You well know there would be a show on talk sport about how they needed english aid. But Tuchel is brill and if germans wanna sneer and take the piss after we win, then thats their prerogative.
It won't be the Germans sneering at us, it'll be everyone else.
The xenophobes are out in full force today
Shut up you lefty liberal snowflake 😂
Bravo to Jamie and Jason for calling out the xenophobia 👏
Slur off.
@@Fractalchemystical ahhh another one.
@@MarkBailey-i6n lesson 1 for idiots. If I said I didn't want a German washing my car,that would be xenophobic..because his nationality has nothing to do with the job I've hired him for...if I say I don't want a German running my England national football team(clue is in the name) that's not xenophobic as his nationality is an intrinsic part of the job. Read that slowly,absorb it understand it and you'll learn.
@@MarkBailey-i6n it’s not xenophobic.
@@tribalisnt Ok buddie.
Theres nothing at all wrong or illogical about saying the English national football team and its English players and fans should be managed by an English manager. Thats a pretty straightforward and logical position. Whats more irrational and questionable is to say its the English national team but weve also incorporated in a few foreign men and women too.
I'm at a loss mate. We're on the same page, but people have lost the plot, they've forgotten the whole point and purpose of international football. It's slowly becoming more and more meaningless in tandem with people getting more and more dumbed down and disconnected from any sense of integrity and authenticity. We're happy apparently to gradually have our identity taken away from us. I despair to be honest.
@@Fractalchemystical so who would you rather have in the job?
If anything tuchel has done a disservice for Germany for accepting to be the England manager
I will hold my hands up I’m not happy he’s German international football should be each countries best players and best manager. 😂
CUNDY 😤 bang on point, Spanish manager is ok, but not at world level doesn’t add up 💪🇬🇧
Any nationality is absolutely entitled to say they prefer a coach from their own country. It’s not xenophobic 😂
I do like Cundy and O'Hara trying to twist it into because hes German, when the caller clearly stated. Its not because hes German. Its because hes not English and that he had the same issue with Sven and Capello. Same as i did. But yet gonna completely ignore it and just call the guy Xenophobic 😂😂 outrageous..
I get where you're coming from. Ideally the manager of the England national team should be English. However, Surely it should be about best in class. Is there a better manger than Tuchel? Who was the last English manager to win the Premier League/Champions league? You'd prefer it if England won nothing than have a foreign manger😂
@@alifarahpour3644if I was to offer you a English manager that has won a domestic treble and only missed out on the quadruple by losing the final of the Champions League with a honours list of 7 league titles 5 FA cups 2 league cup and the Olympic gold medal would you think twice about excepting the opportunity of this English manager to take over the international team.
@@liberalslayer7220 well ofcourse, if there was an English manager who had won so many trophies/titles then obviously that manger should be appointed.
@@alifarahpour3644 well you might have a problem with the fact the manager is a woman who has just taken over the USA women team and leading them straight to the gold medal in the Olympic Games
@@liberalslayer7220 You've just proved my point. I don't have a problem with Tuchel being the England manager. I'm sure the Americans don't have an issue about Emma Hayes being the manager of US women's national team. It's about best manger for the job regardless of nationality. Im 100 percent sure there wouldn't be this debate if Pep became the England manager
If they're saying it's only about the English players, and it doesn't matter who the manager is, then why pay circa £7m salary, to an elite manager, for it not to matter. Don't have any manager then!
Tuchel, for me, is likely to make International football for England potentially exciting.
Wasn't Grealish playing for Ireland at one point.....
There may be some xenophobia masked in the discourse but I dnt think this fella is showing any. It's not outrageous to want coaches to be from the country they represent - and it's certainly not inherently xenophobic.
100% correct. The way they're trying to frame this just tells me they're pushing some corporate media agenda. I could tell that at the start of the show with O'Hara's rant.
I'm with Chris on this one. If you deep it he's right.
Don’t worry Chris… England are winning NOWT coz our players aren’t good enough, it’ll be even more…
World Cup FAILURE
I think the biggest issue is the lack of English managers and this needs to be looked at.
Im happy with a foreign manager but would much prefer an English manager and that would mean we would have more good English managers.
On another call in England to get your coaching badge here its thousands and in Germany its 500 euros or something like that
Do you want the best English Manager or the best manager for England? As an American did I want the best American Manager or the best manager for America? That's why I was elated when Mauricio Pochettino as USMNT.
Whoever wrote the title of this video is very confused.
And who enabled that almost xenophobic view on Tuchel?!? Flip flop people like Neville, Carragher, Redknapp etc… Neville who is always talking about respect and blah blah blah… shameful
If these fans won't credit Tuchel for winning for us, then they better not watch the games either. At that point it's lose-lose. If we win, they lose. If we lose, they still lose.
So do us a favour, don't watch England play. Because you're a joke and you're just watching to lose.
So does Chris never celebrate an arsenal win because they’ve asked a Spaniard to help figure out how to play in the English game? What a load of BS
It should be a clear fifa rule that all representatives of nation should be from that nation but it’s not so get on with it
Was in stitches when it was live. There was 3 really deluded english fans in a row that support arsenal.
It's not xenophobic, international football is about different nations competing against other. We shouldn't be entitled to an elite manger from a different nationality just because we have an amazing squad. We should have to make do with the best English manager available. It's cheating.
Germany living in English minds everyday rent free
No coincidence that all the callers who are absolute muppets are Arsenal fans
Would Germany hire an Englishmen ??
English managers are not good enough mate
The guy is talking as if the Luftwaffe was still flying overhead. There is a reason english coaches are so rare outside the english league system... you have to speak a second language besides english..
Agreed.
Does the caller think that Tuchel is also managing the German team?
If KLOPP got the job,they would not say anything(;
100% with Chris he’s on the money!
Arsenal fan's had an absolute stinker on the calls last night then 🤦😂
Cundy and Ohara rattled. A clear victory for Chris. Good work.
Nah they're right and Chris's way of thinking is why England has nothing to show for themselves in 50+ years. This attitude is also a cancer to society and responsible for a lot of problems going on right now
Chris is chatting utter shyte. Everyone wanted Pep to become England manager, is he English? No, he isn’t
@@robhernandez5520 You cannot separate nationality from international football I'm afraid, it's the whole point. Calling people cancerous for wanting an English manager is itself very toxic so you should check yourself before pointing the finger at others.
@@joshuaw9675 No we didn't. I believe the English manager should always be English. I believe the manager of every national team should be from that nation. That's the whole point of international football = nationality. I don't want Pep, I don't want Klopp, I want an English manager for the England national team which is how it is meant to be, nothing wrong with that whatsoever, it's completely rational and reasonable.
@@Fractalchemystical100%
All of this talk just to get knocked out by Jhon Duran banger in the round of 16
The fa is a clown show. Lets see the list of the 10 they interviewed....bet it wasn't.
Is tuchel going to sing the national anthem
I will hold my hands up I’m not happy he’s German international football should be each countries best players and best manager. 😂 PS would Germany have an English manager..?
Callers right tho aint he
I could not care less what nationality the England manager is! It's about getting the best we can at the time and taking this talented group of England players to a final and winning !! Simple as that and I do believe T.T will do that! Be it straight away or the euros or world cup after if he gets given the time! As a Coventry fan I don't know what that bloke was on about 😂 mark Robins is a good manager and he's a legend for cov but that's about it 😅
You do realise the entire point and purpose of international football is nationality, right? I mean, that is the very essence of international football, our best testing their football skills against their best. It is very clear that if nationality ceases to matter then international football becomes completely pointless and meaningless.
@@Fractalchemystical it's the not the managers playing out there on the pitch so as long as all those lads representing England play out their skins for the shirt they are wearing win lose or draw I could not care less what nationality the manager is! I want England to win 🏆 and if that means us having a coach of a different nationality to do so then so be it! Other nations have done the same so I don't see the issue! Or should I say I do see the issue that people have with Englands appointed manager because he's German and the history we have through war with them but that is nothing to do with football and people are just using that as reason to hate on T.T and the Fa.
This caller is absolutely right well said them pair of idiots didn't really have an answer to it
Small minded i bet that's not the only area of department that Chris is small in 😂
Does every Arsenal player have to come from North London? Are scouse players allowed to join a southern club in case they are Liverpool fans?
Is Liverpool and London a country
International football is all about being xenophobic. Its like war but under a different name. Cundy and ohara suggest sven and capello were accepted with open arms. They weren't.
Did it bother them to have Rishi Sunak as the PM?
He is British though? Born and raised in Southampton. Attended school in Winchester and Oxford, briefly Stanford USA but I know loads of British people who study abroad. Never liked the guy myself, didn't vote for him, thought he wasn't a very good politician.
Sunak was born and raised in Southampton. Tuchel was born and raised in Krumbach, Germany
What?
eh?
Nobody voted for rishi
Except, England won't win the WC
Yup english manager or otherwise!
Lets see some foreign pundits on talksport......i bet these 2 clowns would say that wasn't right as they dont know our culture etc.
Small minded radio hosts
Christ ww2 is over I know it’s hard but it’s over mate… love your passion
It has nothing to do with that, that's how talksport want to frame it. Corporate agenda. Trying to tell us we're wrong for wanting an English manager at the helm of the England naitonal team, which is a completely normal and rational wish.
Nonsense just nonsense .
I lost brain cells listening to this 😂
So many deluded people in our country
Yeah I know, sad how lost people are that they've forgotten the whole point of international football is nationality! If that ceases to matter then international football loses all meaning and purpose. It's hard to disagree with a fact like that, but people are so deluded.
Will this England fan be that bothered when he proudly sings for god to save his 'German' king 😂
The Royal family have been in this country for generations, which would make them English and eligible for England duty under FA regulations so that breaks your pointless and irrelevant argument, unless you want to translate your agument to half the England players whose families have been in this country for much less time than the Royal family has. Anyway your silly and tedious point has got nothing to do with football.
I will like watching England again going to get the tickets to the next game, i like him, what about the Premier league managers do you not like that either 😂😂😂 get 20 English managers in then 😂😂😂
Come on lad Grow up
No English manager has EVER won The Premier League. Champions League-Europa league. Euros & VM. They have had some good players in the years and now. But they have never had a good manager. EVER. ( Brian Clough but a different aera) T.T. will Play better fotball then under Southgate. Southgate was terrible to watch horrible. T.T. All the way.
Chris owned Cundy and O'Hara.
By coming across as a complete moron? 😂
Chris sounds like a Englishman
And a real looser
I mean i get what he is saying but who cares
He definitely didn't 😂
100% Chris was quality 😂😂😂
This is so pathetic
I’d ideally like an English manager but the caller is talking rubbish. The players are all English and are managed by a manager who is better than any English alternative. The idea you’d rather lose than win with a German manager is idiotic.
Except for the two Irish ones 😅
Saka is England born not English. And lots of others too
@@johnb7714 I guess you’re talking about the Brummie and the Surrey boy?
@@REEQDCIf you’re born in England, then you’re English. Stop with this political nonsense. Half of the England team are not really English if that’s where you want to go, don’t single out the black players and think that no one is going to call you out on your bs
No values. No integrity. Weak. 2024.
You two guys twisting his words the whole time. Doofus’
Cundy was a disgrace tonight the way he was talking to fans belittling callers
Fans expressing clear xenophobia and chatting utter shyte
@@joshuaw9675 Wanting an English manager to manage the English national team is not xEnOpHoBiA, snowflake.
lack of education
Says the person who writes like a 5 year old.
Mans got a point
Utter nonsense
Chris is right, International football should be sacrosanct. The reason these pundits can't get their heads around it is because they were football professionals.
So you're happy with 60 years of failure then.
errrrrrr arent you idiots about 20 yrs too late!!??? sacrosanct!!?? why werent you all sacrosanct 20 yrs ago!!!!??? so now youre all flipflopping just because german lol
@@rtk3543 The reason Germany produce coaches is because they haven't sold their league to the highest bidders. The owners in the Premier league feel no obligation to hire English coaches or hold any allegiance. This is the crux of the problem.
@@erselosman1380 I agree mate but I'm not sure these muppets in this video can't get their head around it because they were professionals. As soon as this show started with O'Hara's rant I knew they were coming at this with an agenda, they're determined to make this about the weakest and most absurd argument and argue against that, no balance. They're determined to make it about "xenophobia" and being anti-German when for a large majority of people it's not about that at all, it's just about wanting an English manager at the helm of the England national team which is a perfectly rational and normal wish. I have nothing against Germany at all, I'd feel the same with a Bulgarian, Chinese, Algerian or Mexican manager, etc, etc, I want an Englishman leading England, end of. Nationality cannot be separated from international football, it's the whole point, it becomes meaningless if nationality no longer matters. These two are just pushing the corporate media agenda.
@@rtk3543 So be it. If we can't produce a manager who is good enough then fine, we'll pick our best and give it our best shot anyway. That's what international football is all about. England have just made a Hollywood appointment out of desperation, thinking that's going to deliver a trophy, but whether it does remains to be seen. It's like going out and getting plastic surgery because you can't deal with what God gave you.
Chris is a wet wipe.
Nope.
What would your grandparents think
If they see what the UK looks like now, they wouldn’t had sided with Soviet bolshevism.
@@DisciplineOfSteel2 Absolutely correct, my friend. Been saying the same for years.
Everbody gaslightin Chris... Chris is correct
No he’s not
@@joshuaw9675 Yes he is.
Arsenal fans aren’t the smartest of people are they 😂 everyone I’ve seen hating on tuchel so far have all been arsenal fans yet arsenals manager ain’t English either most of arsenals players aren’t English so if arsenal eventually win a trophy will arsenal not take credit?
They're a weird bunch of fans lol.
Strawman argument detected. (You're not smart enough to detect it yourself)
It’s not xenophobic to want an English manager of England, and it’s not crazy to suggest that a German manager is a ridiculous choice considering Englands rivalry with them. If you want to outsource the position just get chatGPT to do it and be the first team to have an AI manager.
Germany’s rivals are the Netherlands, France and Italy, not England.
It’s the English who have Germany living rent free in their heads.
what is chris' IQ?
Do people still think a pattern recognition test is a measure of a person's intelligence? You can't measure common sense. If you could, you would surely find your own severely lacking. You don;t even have enough sense to realise that nationality is the entire basis of international football.
Btw , Wtaff , these 2 muppets sticking up for aengland for the first time in years now that a GERMAN is running the show ! Cundy tou might have a big giant head , but youve a tiny mind boy ! To go wi your tiny hands ! Hurry up Herr Cundy afore Z germanium getz eir😂
No coincidence that all the callers who are absolute muppets are Arsenal fans