The £1,999.99 price tag is a bit ludacris for what they provide. For that kind of money I would run cables around the house and save myself about £1500.
@General_internet_use_only £500 cause he is gonna end up wiring his whole home with RJ45 or Fibre Optic cables. Which means he would do more than just chucking a cable from one end to the other of his home. Which comes with it's own skills like filling holes, sanding and drilling holes for the cables.
@General_internet_use_only Lol, not so much spiderwebs if he does it well. It would all be tucked away hidden from plain sight. Wireless has a lot of problems that wired doesn't have.
Even the stuff shown here is “wasting your money”, it’s best to import one of the $50 WiFi 7 routers instead of paying $200+ for the exact same thing. TP Link BE3600 and BE6500 can’t be beat for the average high performance home user. Us westerners don’t know how badly our companies are screwing us everyday on “inflation”.
i don’t know much about the 6500 but be3600 has pretty bad wireless performance, it’s main selling point is the single 2.5gbps ethernet port. It does not even have 6ghz, so the “wifi7” capability is kinda a scam. MLO is still unmatured technology anyways, most people would not use it. If you truly want a good router, TPlink archer AX72 would definitely has better wireless performance The 3600 is just using the “wifi 7” title, and is kinda misleading
I take a second to give you credit for a high quality informative channel. God, I watch a big variety, from narrowboat channels, to cooking channels, but few come close to your quality of information. OK, it's a standard format, but we know what to expect. Too many people only take time to complain. I take this time to offer you a well deserved well done. Assuming it serves your needs, keep it up.
Still using my Asus RT-AX86U with asuswrt-merlin for the past 3 years. Paired with Mt fios gigabit connection. No complaints on wifi speeds and the penetration and range works thought out my whole house.
Great Video! I actually tried the extenders too and was not a fan. However, i just made the jump to Eero Mesh Routers and WOW! I have 2 and they go on sale for around 200 sometimes, i got mine for 250$. It works like a dream. One is directly into my Modem and the other is, WIRELESSLY, in the middle of my house and it boosted my wifi in EVERY room even my garage has great signal now too. The best part is I was able to direct connect to the second wireless router and my PC is getting the FULL 1 gig Signal and the wifi is basically full at 850 to 950! It’s incredible tech. I hear it only works either their Routers, though not their extenders. I have the Pro Wifi 6E
I'm going to be putting in a full Unifi network sometime this year, I hope. I need to get a big part of the basement finished first, as it's either going down there or where I am now after I go down there. Need the extra room.
I use the Deco PX50 mesh system. Was about £260 for 3 units. Mainly as I've got a dead wifi room which coincidentally is my office/gaming room. I connect my pc to one of the satellites via ethernet and because the px50 uses both WiFi 6e and power line tech it worked a charm. I actually often get slightly faster speeds than what I pay for. But here's the thing with mesh systems and other WiFi tech, what works for me maybe and probably won't work for you and your house, it's a bit trial and error! Great vid I enjoyed it.
5:14 I think it was Liron Segev (I may be wrong about that detail) who made a video testing speeds using WiFi 6 devices on WiFi 7 routers and vice versa, and he found that there's SOME improvement even if you're not using exclusively WiFi 7 tech. Video title is "WiFi 7 tested: is it really worth the upgrade?"
Plus one for prioritising your wired backhaul "backbone" before any other networking changes. It's the only thing I've done that made a dramatic difference.
I have the same system that I bought yesterday. I have wired backhaul throughout the house. This thing is fast and connection is great. Yes, it costs a lot but what ya get what ya pay for.
Good because I really need to add something to make the WiFi better in the basement of my house but haven’t know where to start so hopefully you have the answers
Wifi 7 is on my new X870e motherboard, not the reason for buying it though and probably will not even plug in the antenna, reason for buying was mainly the power stages for overclocking. Interesting breakdown of the Wifi 7 technology though.
For me, we had to change our net from copper to air and I think that one we went with was wifi 5, and went from like 20mbps to about 300mbps. but for some reason I get 300mbps+ download speeds but my MP games like marvel rivals and rocket league lag like ass still. thankfully, it's not as bad now as it was. usually, we didn't have much lag if at all playing rocket league but the last few years the lag in MP games was ridiculous. Almost couldn't play the game. but now it's still got some lag. or at least high ping about 120-130 ping. so the rubber banding is still there a bit.
For the home, YouFibre. They can provide 8 Gigabit download & upload speed. The downside is they only have about 20% coverage of the UK, so not many people can get them yet.
@@Moshimulations Those are fibre networks. You can have all the bandwidth you need coming in but if the Wifi is poor you won't see it unless you hard wire.
@@chrisross1703 Yes that is true, you still need a good wifi device. Mine is the Xiaomi AX3000T router and I am getting the full bandwidth of my BT 500Mbps over wifi.
People complaining about the price of an all in one router..... Looks over at my startech 25u rack loaded with ubiquiti gear and rack mounted server chassis for home hosting. Yeah... I think I have a problem 😆
I have 3x TP-Link Deco BE85 BE22000 Tri-Band Whole Home Mesh WiFi 7 systems with 10 gbps network throughout my house. Everything loads instantly, games download within minutes. Is it worth the price? depends on your own needs, but for me (someone who does a lot of gaming via PC and PS5), yes.
Got EE wifi 7 @ 900 down and 100 up for £57 a month and have x3 smart hubs and only really need one for a big house and going through 3 walls one corner of house to other and getting 980 down most of time over wifi from router to smart hub and then Ethernet into PC.
Maybe a silly question, but isn’t just making an Ethernet cable and directly connecting your pc to modem the fastest? This is just a wifi problem trying to be solved?
Yes that's a valid point. The main issue is that a lot of people don't always have their computer near their router. You can run a long ethernet cable form the router to the PC, but it may not be feasible. I agree that a wired connection is the best connection, but it isn't always possible or feasible.
@ Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t misunderstanding what’s going on here. I just built a comp for my son and connected it directly to the modem to give him the best speed. My modem even has one individual port that is rated for 10Gbps. Seems best and worth the effort
I'm on spectrum and have 3 well 4 laptops and phones and a tablet and tvs running on wifi here they all do fine with wifi 6. Do I see lag and drops? Yes. Is it all the time. No. That's all that matters
full fibre or great wifi, for that matter, isn't available in the area where I live in the UK. :( My PC mobo (aorus z790 master x) supports wifi 7 which I can't take full advantage of :(
in a tech guy... i work with it, I fix it, I deploy it... blah blah blah... what I want is tech that works. thats it. One plugs it in and it works. like a toaster. No fussing about, No having to learn something - No bullshit, plug it in and it works ... when do we get that?
for that kind of money i can buy a decent firewall that secures my network, add couple of 10G switch ports and some wifi 7 Access points and im good to go. Ok, this is simpler and no Network knowledge but if you go this route, you better do it correctly and know a bit about it
ma men, which one do you recommend... asus rog strix g16 or acer predator neo 16 ?. i am planning to use it for 3D modeling, animation and video editing , both RTX4060, i9, 32gb and 1tb. i need your help here
@ I was just noting that you saved money and have reliable, fast internet via wired connection. I was joking that why would we wire things when we can sell $2000 mesh WiFi devices!
id rather get the asus raptor 7g version its around 700 800 gbp and had nothing but good reviews online but honestly ees new wifi 7 hub is amazing and they give you an extender which u can wire up and its so good im getting 700 download speed on wifi 7 and my pc other side of house to the main hub even get connection on my driveway outside lmao
@@bigfil1981 Stability is much more important than speed when gaming, and you only need one cable for your gaming machine and rest of your devices can use wifi.
In short, WiFi 7 is faster than its predecessor 6E .... Great 😃👍 who would've guessed? 🙄 now back to regular programming, Why's 2 ram sticks better than 4 technically in DDR 5? Will Intel bounce back ?
pfsense machine 4x2.5gb for around 120euros + xiaomi be5000 or so (around 60 euros)... and you are done... need mesh? oh u can add a cheap wifi 6 for 30 euros.. or even another be5000 or a be3600 for like 40-50 euros..... oh what u have a 10gb fiber wan? humm 40 euros for managed 4x2.5gb ports + 1 sfp+ 10gb (30 euros) and u are rcoking with a nice network ;) and u can only do it... now... on the present days.
You could save yourself a load of money and just get Power over Ethernet devices and get what ever speed of network your hear desires in every room in your house.
You can't get whatever speed you want since it's capped and pretty slow. I'm getting 600 Mbps on wifi and you won't get anywhere near that speed with power over ethernet.
Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
The £1,999.99 price tag is a bit ludacris for what they provide. For that kind of money I would run cables around the house and save myself about £1500.
@General_internet_use_only £500 cause he is gonna end up wiring his whole home with RJ45 or Fibre Optic cables.
Which means he would do more than just chucking a cable from one end to the other of his home. Which comes with it's own skills like filling holes, sanding and drilling holes for the cables.
@General_internet_use_only Lol, not so much spiderwebs if he does it well. It would all be tucked away hidden from plain sight. Wireless has a lot of problems that wired doesn't have.
A house wired with 10 gig switches 🤤
@@yensteel Yea probably also a lot cheaper, and he could also hook up some cheap routers on the other ends of the connections.
@@Moshimulationsit will also boost the equity of your home.
Yooo Editor Karl With the Cutout Black Screen... TRUE ART MAN !!!!!!! lol
Lol i did that one
Even the stuff shown here is “wasting your money”, it’s best to import one of the $50 WiFi 7 routers instead of paying $200+ for the exact same thing. TP Link BE3600 and BE6500 can’t be beat for the average high performance home user. Us westerners don’t know how badly our companies are screwing us everyday on “inflation”.
As a "PS", my ISP is through fibre optic which was already light years ahead of the "copper" cable technology.
TP link is sponsored by China and has lots of security issues. I wouldn’t trust them in my home network.
i don’t know much about the 6500 but be3600 has pretty bad wireless performance, it’s main selling point is the single 2.5gbps ethernet port. It does not even have 6ghz, so the “wifi7” capability is kinda a scam. MLO is still unmatured technology anyways, most people would not use it.
If you truly want a good router, TPlink archer AX72 would definitely has better wireless performance
The 3600 is just using the “wifi 7” title, and is kinda misleading
I take a second to give you credit for a high quality informative channel. God, I watch a big variety, from narrowboat channels, to cooking channels, but few come close to your quality of information. OK, it's a standard format, but we know what to expect. Too many people only take time to complain. I take this time to offer you a well deserved well done. Assuming it serves your needs, keep it up.
Still using my Asus RT-AX86U with asuswrt-merlin for the past 3 years. Paired with Mt fios gigabit connection. No complaints on wifi speeds and the penetration and range works thought out my whole house.
Great Video! I actually tried the extenders too and was not a fan. However, i just made the jump to Eero Mesh Routers and WOW! I have 2 and they go on sale for around 200 sometimes, i got mine for 250$. It works like a dream. One is directly into my Modem and the other is, WIRELESSLY, in the middle of my house and it boosted my wifi in EVERY room even my garage has great signal now too. The best part is I was able to direct connect to the second wireless router and my PC is getting the FULL 1 gig Signal and the wifi is basically full at 850 to 950! It’s incredible tech. I hear it only works either their Routers, though not their extenders. I have the Pro Wifi 6E
I'm going to be putting in a full Unifi network sometime this year, I hope. I need to get a big part of the basement finished first, as it's either going down there or where I am now after I go down there. Need the extra room.
I use the Deco PX50 mesh system. Was about £260 for 3 units. Mainly as I've got a dead wifi room which coincidentally is my office/gaming room. I connect my pc to one of the satellites via ethernet and because the px50 uses both WiFi 6e and power line tech it worked a charm. I actually often get slightly faster speeds than what I pay for. But here's the thing with mesh systems and other WiFi tech, what works for me maybe and probably won't work for you and your house, it's a bit trial and error! Great vid I enjoyed it.
5:14 I think it was Liron Segev (I may be wrong about that detail) who made a video testing speeds using WiFi 6 devices on WiFi 7 routers and vice versa, and he found that there's SOME improvement even if you're not using exclusively WiFi 7 tech. Video title is "WiFi 7 tested: is it really worth the upgrade?"
Plus one for prioritising your wired backhaul "backbone" before any other networking changes. It's the only thing I've done that made a dramatic difference.
I have the same system that I bought yesterday. I have wired backhaul throughout the house. This thing is fast and connection is great. Yes, it costs a lot but what ya get what ya pay for.
2.399,99€ MSRP (in Germany) including Tax is ridiculous! No matter how good it is.
Richtig genau! Ridiculousness.
@k5elevencinc0 ?
You could probably have hard network cables professionally installed for that cost.
Good because I really need to add something to make the WiFi better in the basement of my house but haven’t know where to start so hopefully you have the answers
Wifi 7 is on my new X870e motherboard, not the reason for buying it though and probably will not even plug in the antenna, reason for buying was mainly the power stages for overclocking. Interesting breakdown of the Wifi 7 technology though.
That’s $2k?! I was thinking like $500 😂
The words puncturing and UK's roads used in the same sentence... Brave.
For me, we had to change our net from copper to air and I think that one we went with was wifi 5, and went from like 20mbps to about 300mbps. but for some reason I get 300mbps+ download speeds but my MP games like marvel rivals and rocket league lag like ass still. thankfully, it's not as bad now as it was. usually, we didn't have much lag if at all playing rocket league but the last few years the lag in MP games was ridiculous. Almost couldn't play the game. but now it's still got some lag. or at least high ping about 120-130 ping. so the rubber banding is still there a bit.
2:17 the whole thing just cuts out-
What is the best wifi to buy in the UK
For the home, YouFibre. They can provide 8 Gigabit download & upload speed. The downside is they only have about 20% coverage of the UK, so not many people can get them yet.
EE 1.6Gbps or if you got Alt Nets, like Community Fibre, Hyper Optic, G Network around you area then I'd recommend getting them.
Funnily I’m getting community fibre installed in 5 hours!!
@@Moshimulations Those are fibre networks. You can have all the bandwidth you need coming in but if the Wifi is poor you won't see it unless you hard wire.
@@chrisross1703 Yes that is true, you still need a good wifi device. Mine is the Xiaomi AX3000T router and I am getting the full bandwidth of my BT 500Mbps over wifi.
Are you guys getting lubed up first before being bent over for these? Holy crap.
Interesting way to pronounce router. Do you not use the word rooter like we do in Australia?
People complaining about the price of an all in one router.....
Looks over at my startech 25u rack loaded with ubiquiti gear and rack mounted server chassis for home hosting.
Yeah... I think I have a problem 😆
This thing is HOW MUCH???
I have 3x TP-Link Deco BE85 BE22000 Tri-Band Whole Home Mesh WiFi 7 systems with 10 gbps network throughout my house. Everything loads instantly, games download within minutes. Is it worth the price? depends on your own needs, but for me (someone who does a lot of gaming via PC and PS5), yes.
If the area I live in has bad service will a gaming router still work ?
Got EE wifi 7 @ 900 down and 100 up for £57 a month and have x3 smart hubs and only really need one for a big house and going through 3 walls one corner of house to other and getting 980 down most of time over wifi from router to smart hub and then Ethernet into PC.
RuneScape
My god, my nostalgia just transported me back to 2005
Maybe a silly question, but isn’t just making an Ethernet cable and directly connecting your pc to modem the fastest? This is just a wifi problem trying to be solved?
Yes that's a valid point. The main issue is that a lot of people don't always have their computer near their router. You can run a long ethernet cable form the router to the PC, but it may not be feasible. I agree that a wired connection is the best connection, but it isn't always possible or feasible.
@ Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t misunderstanding what’s going on here. I just built a comp for my son and connected it directly to the modem to give him the best speed. My modem even has one individual port that is rated for 10Gbps. Seems best and worth the effort
my PC allows WiFi 7 but nothing else in my house uses it so I can't worry about it at the moment.
I'm on spectrum and have 3 well 4 laptops and phones and a tablet and tvs running on wifi here they all do fine with wifi 6. Do I see lag and drops? Yes. Is it all the time. No. That's all that matters
How would you pronounce rooter? If you pronounce router as rooter?
full fibre or great wifi, for that matter, isn't available in the area where I live in the UK. :(
My PC mobo (aorus z790 master x) supports wifi 7 which I can't take full advantage of :(
in a tech guy... i work with it, I fix it, I deploy it... blah blah blah... what I want is tech that works. thats it. One plugs it in and it works. like a toaster. No fussing about, No having to learn something - No bullshit, plug it in and it works ... when do we get that?
I think the £1999.99 price tag is a bit ludacris for what it provides. For that amount I would run cables around the house.
Is this with reflex 2 enabled?
for that kind of money i can buy a decent firewall that secures my network, add couple of 10G switch ports and some wifi 7 Access points and im good to go. Ok, this is simpler and no Network knowledge but if you go this route, you better do it correctly and know a bit about it
I would assume that network equipment company is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Nvidia inc.
ma men, which one do you recommend... asus rog strix g16 or acer predator neo 16 ?. i am planning to use it for 3D modeling, animation and video editing , both RTX4060, i9, 32gb and 1tb. i need your help here
I spent $400 to wire my house with “cat 7” cable
….but wired homes don’t sell $2000 mess WiFi! 😂
@ ?
@ I was just noting that you saved money and have reliable, fast internet via wired connection. I was joking that why would we wire things when we can sell $2000 mesh WiFi devices!
id rather get the asus raptor 7g version its around 700 800 gbp and had nothing but good reviews online but honestly ees new wifi 7 hub is amazing and they give you an extender which u can wire up and its so good im getting 700 download speed on wifi 7 and my pc other side of house to the main hub even get connection on my driveway outside lmao
is it true that the 5060 is 50% faster than the 4060
really gamers only use ethernet
Get a life Einstein
There's a lot of loss over ethernet. I choose to use a multi antenna wi-fi 5 instead of having to run cables around the house.
Where I live I have to have wifi from the tower to my house so ethernet is good but overall it's all not ideal in my situation.
@@bigfil1981 Stability is much more important than speed when gaming, and you only need one cable for your gaming machine and rest of your devices can use wifi.
At 9:06 you show the price bro
Wifi 7. More speed, less range and the signal gets blocked by a sheet of wallpaper. Am I right?
I need a router with minum 2.5gb wan port, WiFi 6e, 2.5 gb lan ports that will saturate a 2.5gbps symmetrical fibre connection.
That's a nice looking rooter
From what I've seen all the wifi mesh kits look hella expensive 😳
My NAS runs off my 6x sata on my ghtpc✌
In Australia a rooter and a router are verry different thing.
£32/mo for 1gb down/up is pretty cheap. I envy you guys. I pay $75/mo for 1gb down/500mb up.
I am perfectly fine with Amplifi gaming router, and quite the opposite wasting my $$$.
I used a moca adapter to save me having to channel Ethernet cables through my house
You could also use Power over Ethernet and not have any cables at all.
i have to sell my entire pc and all peripherals to get this router
Finally he talks bout this
was expecting it to be expensive but £2000 is a joke
In short, WiFi 7 is faster than its predecessor 6E .... Great 😃👍 who would've guessed? 🙄
now back to regular programming, Why's 2 ram sticks better than 4 technically in DDR 5?
Will Intel bounce back ?
You look like Edward Nygma, you're welcome
damn those internet speeds are crazy cheap!
It's a router not a rooter 😊
Depends what side of the pond you were raised.
@@benjaminford9932 It's a router in Australia
If you buy this, you are gonna waste money.
Im guessing £3k for the box of 3
Why are we talking about Wi-Fi when as pc gamers mf know they need to be hardwired Wi-Fi 7 is not go to be faster than Ethernet.
All the stuff I own other than my phone is on wifi 5 lol
pfsense machine 4x2.5gb for around 120euros + xiaomi be5000 or so (around 60 euros)... and you are done... need mesh? oh u can add a cheap wifi 6 for 30 euros.. or even another be5000 or a be3600 for like 40-50 euros..... oh what u have a 10gb fiber wan? humm 40 euros for managed 4x2.5gb ports + 1 sfp+ 10gb (30 euros) and u are rcoking with a nice network ;) and u can only do it... now... on the present days.
id say around 700 gbp
Brits always pronounce things weirdly and think they're pronouncing it correctly. It's router not rooter.
How do you sing 'Route 66'?
@@chrisross1703 yeah - a "rowter" is a woodworking tool :-)
you should show a more reasonable solution. 2k is out of the budget of most people. this is a blatant sponsor shill..
just get ees new wifi 7 its so goooood
Can the Intel Arc B580 run VR?
I dunno but the Orbi cant
Instead of wasting £400-£2000 an a router for gaming, just buy a decent cable!
TP link WiFi 7 router for £100
Don't think that one has a 6ghz band
£750 Marcus
$2000 for the wifi system.
7:25 shit look like a JBL speaker😂😂👎🏾
£2,000 😂😂😂 as if
$1200
Clicked this video saw the price clicked off the video this is out of my price range lol 1999.99$ yah no thank you
Day 1 of begging centric for a pc please 🙏
get a job and buy one for yourself?
@ I’m 12🧐
TP-Link wifi 7 is 1/3 of the price.
Year 2025 still don’t have a gaming PC
i said $575
You could save yourself a load of money and just get Power over Ethernet devices and get what ever speed of network your hear desires in every room in your house.
You can't get whatever speed you want since it's capped and pretty slow. I'm getting 600 Mbps on wifi and you won't get anywhere near that speed with power over ethernet.
what a waste of video. very poor review. you are mumbling all over the place. please shut up and show me the product next time
It's router like "trout" not "rooter" like a🐓
Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
£1500
Netgear is overrated crap. There are far better routers out there for a lot less.
1st view, love ya
600 something haha
First!