+Preach Gaming Whats to guess that the Weapon ~ The Silver Hand is in the Resting place with Tyr's name, now would that happen to be Tirisfal Glades (Tyr's Fall Glades) ? :D
Dude Felo'melorn has a very long history. It's an ancient runeblade that even predates the war of the ancients. Very powerful. It was held back then by Dath'Remar Sunstrider, Kael'thas' highborne ancestor.
An extensive look at the weapons that will shape your character throughout Legion, why don't you take a close look at the 'combat' rogue and the demonology warlock. Enjoy
+Preach Gaming So many Titan storylines... It seems like they just said "Fuck it, Titans made it." whenever they couldn't come up with anything else. Also, the fire mage sword actually has quite a huge history behind it, it's one of the few that was actually mentioned quite a few times before being turned into an artifact. Kael'thas's father used it defending his kingdom against the Lich King, and Keal'thas used it in his last fight against the Lich King. The short text on the website just does a bad job of telling the story I guess.
Preach, loved the way you spoke on this video, sounded like something of a storyteller around campfire, really paying respect to the stories of each weapon. Congratz on your videos!
SOME stories are pretty epic but since you're not that into lore, you dont see how cool/significant they are (for example all 3 of the Mages weaps). I'm not trying to be mean or anything; I know most people havent read the books or at least watched Nobbel's videos, but knowing and being invested in the lore; does make you see some of these alot differently. I mean; being able to use Aegwynn's staff? That makes Ashbringer look like a fucking twig. Although I see your point that we dont get to know how some of these weapons were created, I think Blizz took 3 different approaches to not sound so repetitive: 1.-Weapons with more of a "significant" reason to be/their creation (like Druid's, Monk's, Prot Shield, etc) 2.-Outright powerfull weapons which creation is explained (All DK's, Hunter's Gun, etc) 3.-Weapons who were possesed by Unique individuals and thus; their epicness is simply tacit and only lore nerds will fully understand (Mage's, Rogue's, etc) Or a combination of the 3. EDIT: Loved your "serious" approach into the reading, I mean; I love Hyped Preach but Serious Preach every once in a while is refreshing.
+Guillermo Garcia Piza Id say this is the problem with the artifacts that have an established position already, they can only serve to cause argument unnecessarily. The mage stuff for example is only from the books which, and lets be honest is a very niche amount of wow's audience. It's crazy to expect people to be excited or get into discussion about things they have never heard of. Notice that the recently fabricated artifacts that simply have a cool piece of mini lore are more well received and generally aren't annoying anyone. I'd urge some humility when judging people who are unaware of something that has never existed in the medium it now exists in,
+Preach Gaming you know we might learn more about the artifacts when we're actually trying to get them. That might help those (me included) who don't read the books or know little about the lore behind each one to understand its origins. Also (offtopic) I still can't get over you calling Doomhammer 'Doombringer' xD Unless you intentionally mashed them both together since they are the overhyped weapons lol
Cool video, I know you don't usually post much about the lore side of things but you have a good voice for narrating the RP backstory they provided for these weapons.
I don't like how the art on melee weapons have gone over the years... All swords and axes looks fucking blunt! Like they would be used to beat your enemies to death instead of chopping or cutting.
+Noobfist I understand part of the artstyle of wow is oversized weapons, that's been the case since before WoW. There's even a place for dumb weapons. especially for maces. My fury warrior used the first season wod pvp epic swords for a while because they looked pretty fucking brutal and had literal skulls for handles. That being said, there is a lack of good blades in WoW. something that looks fairly thin, with a sharp blade. something you could parry with and then fuck your opponent up with. Big brutal weapons don't HAVE to be oversized, too-thick cleavers. the blades could benefit from being a bit more 'boring', becasue adding weird shit to blades doesn't make them any better axes have fared a little better, a few polearms as well, as it stands there's a lot of shitty sword models out there
+GlobstersMessenger I just miss weapons like the draconic avenger or the high warlord's battle axe. Even with the old texture they look cool as shit and have a sharp metalic edge. Most weapons now looks to be crafted out of stone.
Noobfist I agree. there's a place for the newer style of weapons. but it can make them look less powerful and more bulky/unweildly there are some cool weapons that are pretty oversized but look powerful, then there are, as preach puts it 'spade swords'
+Noobfist I know. I don't understand why people want 'flashy' weapons. You see people looking at weapons that are completely unrealistic and they still say "...Meh, too boring". It goes the same for armor - you want it to protect you, not have massive three foot tall horns and glowy stuff everywhere.
Stone Keyboard thing is it's less realism, because when we talk realism there's not really anything in wow that comes close, even some of the very simplest stuff it's about something you can look at and go 'ok cool that could work' you can have a lot of variation in weapons while still keeping a cutting edge blade that looks reasonable
In the example of Aegwynn's staff, Aluneth... I think the lore snip is fine. It looks like in some cases, they are leaving the rest of the story to be discovered while playing. Aegwynn was extremely powerful as the Guardian who killed the avatar of Sargeras. She would not have chosen to use it unless it was powerful. Her randomly finding the weapon actually makes me feel like she was out questing just like we do. With the origin of the weapon untold, there could be great secrets to be discovered.
Although its not the usual type of content I expect from this channel, the ridiculously smooth preach voice and background music made it a really good watch. Don't care about accuracy.
The Mistweaver staff seemed like a powerful artefact to me. The Emperor used the staff during his trials, yes, but that's not all he did with it. He also held the staff as he shrouded the entirety of Pandaria in a thick mist, which is the single most impressive feat of Mistweaving in all of Azeroth's history.
Personally I take a different approach to the lore than you do. I think that the things like the Scythe of Elune and Aluneth have stronger lore than other things because we've seen it before. It wasn't just made up for the weapons, but it's been there. That aspect, for me personally, is stronger because it feels more important. It feels real compared to the demon hunters' weapons or the maw of the damned. Those had to be made up. The Scythe of Elune and Aluneth existed before artifact weapons. I think they have the large end of the stick, so to speak.
Great video as always Preach. I pretty much agree with you on all of them. Like you said I really can't wait to see the various class changes and see how these new weapons and lore tie into them. As well as how the new class halls and quests fit with the new ways we play these specs. Gimme Legion now please!
Great to see that Blizzard put alot of effort into the Prot Warr artifact...................................................................................................................................
Preach doing a lore(ish) video, i never thought i would see this day. but quite a good video to add. Love most of the lore behind the weapons great stuff
Man I need to donate to your patreon if this is the sort of content we're gonna be getting. An hour long video so soon after blizzcon goes live.Well played Preach keep it up man.
yay legion looks good , cant decide what artifact i wanna go for its like chooseing a class lol , good to see preachs wow vids now there is alot of new info , mind still blown on all the stuff they shown over the weekend , look forward to the next vids ! :D
I'm sad. The arms weapons aren't elegant. Sweeping strikes with a jagged saw blade that's held together by lava?? Elegant cleaving swings with a fucking fish hook??
I wish fury had as nice weapons as arms. Not one handers. When I think of a fury warrior with relentless attacks making their name. I think of wielding 2 two hands and they just don't stop attacking and that no one else has the strength to do this. Single minded fury is like yay I can flail my arms like a rogue and go past a stamina break point......
+MrJustinArt lest we forget none of the skins we've seen so far for other weapons change the overall shape of the weapon. You're not gonna be able to get a basic ish high res great sword that's just straight with a cool pommel. We will be stuck with over designed cancer.
+Anton Henricsson -That assumption might be a little premature (unless they show it later today and I feel silly)- edit: they're up: Arms is not there (but Fury is, and it's meh..). Yeah, we're probably not gonna get something non-jagged and straightforward(?) like the re-skinned/modeled Ashkandi, but they've shown only two skins; we might (_might_) get more later on. I agree looking at it now, though. If they removed the jagged tip of the Arms artifact I would like it more.
TheEponet I have pretty much every 2handed tmog I could want, I want new stuff. With confirmation that no other weapon will even drop in Legion we know for a fact the only new weapon skins will be for the Artifacts and I am pesimstic at best.
+TheDuriel Leave it to a brony to not understand a simple sentence, he meant that it's horrible because he has spent so much time playing the class, and now a big part of it is being removed.
Helgi Páll Eiríksson I can relate with my 2nd spec as a Dk i loved played 2handed Frost now they choose for us,but i think it will affect most of the classes just the fact that Survival hunter are Melee now,it's part of their Class overhaul that they spoke about.
Like Helgi said, I never said anything about TG being in since vanilla, I said I was playing a WARRIOR since vanilla. I was stating that TG is far more fun and just feels better than SMF, and it's shitty that they are removing the more popular choice for the sake of artifact weapons. It's a fact that dual wielding 2 handed weapons is far more badass than dual wielding 1 handed weapons
I read all the weapon drops on the official site, but your commentary was great. I really enjoyed it. I hope the messages from weapons would be awesome like the puzzle box of yogg-saron.
Seriously disappointed seeing BM hunters forced to a gun and the MM hunters get a faboo bow. Should have been the other way around. Thank gods for the ilevel 710 felblight crystal pvp longbow and mogging so I don't have to look at that butt-fugly trolltooth gun any longer than absolutely necessary.
I really appreciate the time, effort, and information put into your very informative videos, as a regular viewer of both your channel and Dolan's, I get not only the lore behind most things, but also the more technical information (more deets etc). thanks for this Preach, and I actualley went to Blizzcon, u should contact me!
+Bradford Walker Too bad the weapons look like the Season 16 1 handers. Resizing them will just make them look even more like ass. Why can't we have an axe, like Gorehowl or Xal'atoh? Axe of Cenarius, perhaps?
+Archangel Of Darkness dont think pet would work since it would get boring having the same pet allways with you, also would feel bad for people who go rare pet hunting
Excellent video Preach, you scored a thumbs up from me. I particularly enjoyed your reading of the lore. I'm not a lore junky but if you were of a mind to create more little tidbits I think I might listen in.
You made fun of me when I brought up dual wielding druids, you made fun of me when I talked about bears and cats using fist weapons on your stream, you called them "kitten mittens" well now they are a reality and I sound happier about it then you about it, but that could be because you're tired. When the sub daggers were leaked I though they were assassination also, I find them a bit underwhelming comparatively to the other weapons people are getting, to me they look like a mix between mannaroth's daggers and the ones of assault. The variants also don't seem to impressive, at least the ones we've seen so far. Lastly, for Arms warriors I was really hoping they'd go with The Axe of Cenarius. Seeing it goes down a similar path lore wise as some of the artifacts, weapons that hurt the legion in their past, only thing being that The Axe of Cenarius would stand out even more being the only mortal weapon that has wounded Sergé if my memory serves me correctly.
Not sure how I feel about the whole concept of this, but some of the weapons do look really cool. I guess we'll see how it plays out. Thanks for the video and insight, Preach!
I actually really like the Prot Warrior artifacts. The sword is admittedly pretty "meh" but both of those shield variations are perfect (in my opinion). They look really cool, they look strong and obviously durable, but they aren't super flashy and gimmicky, like some of the artifacts do. They look like they are simply down for business, which fits Prot warrior well. Awesome video man. Love your channel!
I feel you on this one, and I'm saddened by the fact fury will probably be single minded I always loved Titans grip it's even in most of the lores that a Titan made the weapons. Atleast make the weapons have a story line that only the strongest can wield the weapons because the 2 2-handers are made for Titans to hold. I never linked single minded fury it doesn't feel powerful as a warrior compaired to Titans grip.
Yeah, honesty If they don't change it im swapping to maining prot. spec on my warrior who was my main for 4+ years. and I might just swap to my monk or DH when it drops to my main
Nicky Wojtasinski I was thinking the same, I want something that means something to my character, not some random new weapon while I see pala's with Ashbringer :P
great vid. i think you might be a lil hard on some of the wep designs but all an all i completely agree with you. especially that bit about shield not getting durability and the skull talking to you. i really hope they hear you and make those changes/additions
So I play all tanks I'm excited for the Pally/Warrior shields. Also I was gonna put a comment about the durability loss but you hit the nail right on the head.
Fabulous video Preach. You do great work, and I can see following your channel and watching your WoW videos even if I stop playing the game (which I have at this point). Mixed feelings about the weapons overall. Seems to me they aren't putting forth the effort into the stories and some of the models that they deserve, and I'm thinking it's probably a sign of how Legion will actually play out. Like WoD we had a reason to hope for real epic-ness in a game that should be epic, and may in fact get, like WoD, a shadow of the promise of that story. But we'll see of course; it's too early to lose all hope.
the arms warrior skins, IMHO, i feel are the reason for transmog. the lore for most of these are good enough, and i hope they (blizz) have at least 12 version for each, cause otherwise there will be a lot of upset people. thank you for the time you took to make this video.
For hunters - I think BM should have been the melee spec. It makes a lot sense, especially because of Rexxar. Imagine dual wielding axes with your pet. Also, that gun would fit AMAZINGLY well with Survival, since they've always focused on more magical damage (Black Arrow, Explosive Shot, Arcane Shot).
I loved all warlocks weapons destro is looking to be changing a bit which is great and btw.... this is the first time I've seen you talking about lore haha great work
Main warlock here. Very impressed by the warlock artifacts. The backstories make me very interested in everything going on with them. And with the new information they discussed today with the Affliction weapon, gives a great example of the uniqueness that a lot of these artifacts will have. I don't wanna jump on the hype train too soon but so far things are looking promising. This stuff should definitely help with immersion and class identity as well, which is something I think we have all been missing.
I will say this in the spirit of objective fairness; You do create content that focuses on what are most of my favorite elements of this game and the over all lore as it exist in many forms of media. I think it's the constant complaining I cant bring myself to suffer.
Arcane staff story is amazing, a mysterious staff that has been wielded by one of the most powerful mages in recent history for centuries, i imagine over that time a lot of power has gone through it, making it really strong, and as an arcane mage you have to find where she left it. so many options there for how the mages come to use it, loved it!
My main is a Warlock, and all of the warlock artifacts make my jaw drop. And now that you can tri-spec, I reckon having a floating skull would be pretty awesome.
I'm pretty excited for that dagger for shadow priests. That sounds so good and so in line with how it feels when I switch to shadow after playing disc or holy. Laying down the healing spells and picking up a dark power.
Preach I appreciate the hard work and how you're doing this from the perspective of someone that doesn't know the lore but with that said you have no idea what you're talking about especially the Assassination daggers and Fire mage sword they're kind of a big deal lol
I really love the idea of using a guardian's staff as a mage. The descriptions they provide seem like an excitement tool to make us want our artifact weapons. They don't want the descriptions to tell us the full stories, the full stories come by getting, and then upgrading them as we get artifact power. So as a mage, I love getting a guardian's staff. I don't need to be shown why it's an amazing staff, it was wielded by the guardians of tirisfal, mages who invoke fear in kil'jaeden, archimonde, and even sargeras himself. I didn't need a description to get hyped for my staff, they just needed to tell me what it was, and I had to understand that I would learn about it while I'm getting it and continuing it's story.
I think the Brewmaster Staff is amazing. The entire concept of the Monk class is using body and mind, not weapons, to defeat your enemies. When you master the body, the tool becomes irrellevant, and a mere "walking stick". It does however come with a flagon of beer - which is always nice!
i agree with the rouge wepon swap, but on another topic, will you do a pre-stream today? talk about you feelings for day 1 and later make a more in-depth video for your channel?
Actually Felo'melorn has a pretty cool background with the wars it fought and the kings of quel'thelas heading into battle with it causing immense damage and its actually something I was super hyped seeing as a weapon.
I agree, the arms/fury weapons are quite underwhelming, I was really hoping they would go with something BWL'ish like krul-shoruk or the 2hand dragon axe (forget the name) the prot shield and sword are the best of the lot, the shield especially. Very nice video Preach, as always.
Love the Brewmaster staff, it's basically just a cooler version of my favourite monk staff currently in the game, the one with the bottle on it. I think it suits a wandering monk very well. As for the Blood Death Knight, my god, that is the most metal axe I've ever seen. Overall I'm happy with the artifacts, obviously we're getting lots of different skins, so there's bound to be something for everyone (Or most at the very least) to enjoy. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on them in game. EDIT: Turns out I can edit youtube comments, who knew? Everyone? Okay then. I really like the Prot Warrior artifacts, which seemingly makes me part of the minority. They're simple(ish), reliable, not overly ornamental. They look like they're designed to absorb hits and kill people. Nothing more, nothing less.
i can finally feel super badass as a shadow priest, wielding a dagger that will turn your mind to mush, cant wait, especially with the possible changes to spriest orbs/insainty build up
If I recall, Felo'melorn was originally a staff and the defining weapon of the Sunstrider dynasty, used by King Anaesterian Sunstrider when he battled Arthas as he tried to march across the water to Quel'Danas and the Sunwell, where it was destroyed as the King fell. Kael'thas would eventually recover the pieces of the weapon and have it reforged into a spellsword which is what would be used against Arthas (again) as he made his way to Icecrown Glacier before Illidan could destroy the Lich King.
no way, the Valkyrie is called Helya (Hell Yeah), that is amazing. As for the warrior weapons I am glad that we can transmog over those. The rogue lore doesn't fit the weapons I aggree with you there, but it really doesn't bother me at all. Can't wait to try out the warlock, and the new combat rogue :)
When I see the lore that comes with these weapons, an idea comes to mind. I speculate that these weapons, especially when fighting against the legion, will give the wielder some kind of "Super ability" based upon the reason it was created or for it's power. For example, "Truthguard" would actually be able to push back enemies with it's holy power and shield allies when the enemy is becoming too overwhelming. Then maybe similar with "G'Hanir" for resto druids, would be given an AoE ability to heal vast amounts of your allies' health.
Not sure why people are commenting so much about the appearance of the weapon... There will be a hell of alot of transmogs available to unlock during the expansion...
"The Doombringer was long wielded by Orgrim Doombringer" that made this whole video for me xD
Oh my gawd, Preach talking about lore this has to be a dream come true
Titan's grip was just confirmed. Apparently the preview weapon models are just small.
+Preach Gaming FeelsGoodMyMan
Thank fuck, almost had a heart attack.... smf is for pussies
+Preach Gaming also the fire mage is 2 hand as well nice video as usual preacher! *brofist*
thank fucking god, if that was real, I would have just switch back to arms again
+Preach Gaming Whats to guess that the Weapon ~ The Silver Hand is in the Resting place with Tyr's name,
now would that happen to be Tirisfal Glades (Tyr's Fall Glades) ? :D
Dude Felo'melorn has a very long history. It's an ancient runeblade that even predates the war of the ancients. Very powerful. It was held back then by Dath'Remar Sunstrider, Kael'thas' highborne ancestor.
An extensive look at the weapons that will shape your character throughout Legion, why don't you take a close look at the 'combat' rogue and the demonology warlock. Enjoy
+Preach Gaming Doombringer? Am I missing the joke?
+Preach Gaming thanks Preach
+Preach Gaming So many Titan storylines... It seems like they just said "Fuck it, Titans made it." whenever they couldn't come up with anything else.
Also, the fire mage sword actually has quite a huge history behind it, it's one of the few that was actually mentioned quite a few times before being turned into an artifact. Kael'thas's father used it defending his kingdom against the Lich King, and Keal'thas used it in his last fight against the Lich King. The short text on the website just does a bad job of telling the story I guess.
+Preach Gaming Well done, really enjoyed this breakdown hope the family is well, stay damp.
+Preach Gaming very well done, you sound completely exhausted!
Preach, loved the way you spoke on this video, sounded like something of a storyteller around campfire, really paying respect to the stories of each weapon. Congratz on your videos!
SOME stories are pretty epic but since you're not that into lore, you dont see how cool/significant they are (for example all 3 of the Mages weaps).
I'm not trying to be mean or anything; I know most people havent read the books or at least watched Nobbel's videos, but knowing and being invested in the lore; does make you see some of these alot differently. I mean; being able to use Aegwynn's staff? That makes Ashbringer look like a fucking twig.
Although I see your point that we dont get to know how some of these weapons were created, I think Blizz took 3 different approaches to not sound so repetitive:
1.-Weapons with more of a "significant" reason to be/their creation (like Druid's, Monk's, Prot Shield, etc)
2.-Outright powerfull weapons which creation is explained (All DK's, Hunter's Gun, etc)
3.-Weapons who were possesed by Unique individuals and thus; their epicness is simply tacit and only lore nerds will fully understand (Mage's, Rogue's, etc)
Or a combination of the 3.
EDIT: Loved your "serious" approach into the reading, I mean; I love Hyped Preach but Serious Preach every once in a while is refreshing.
+Guillermo Garcia Piza TRUTH
+Guillermo Garcia Piza Amen, it was quite hard listening to preach talk about the arcane/frost mage weapons from a lorenerd's perspective.
+Guillermo Garcia Piza Felo'melorn is actually a quite lore-heavy weapon that isn't one of those weapons that were created 3 seconds ago
+Guillermo Garcia Piza Id say this is the problem with the artifacts that have an established position already, they can only serve to cause argument unnecessarily. The mage stuff for example is only from the books which, and lets be honest is a very niche amount of wow's audience. It's crazy to expect people to be excited or get into discussion about things they have never heard of. Notice that the recently fabricated artifacts that simply have a cool piece of mini lore are more well received and generally aren't annoying anyone. I'd urge some humility when judging people who are unaware of something that has never existed in the medium it now exists in,
+Preach Gaming you know we might learn more about the artifacts when we're actually trying to get them. That might help those (me included) who don't read the books or know little about the lore behind each one to understand its origins. Also (offtopic) I still can't get over you calling Doomhammer 'Doombringer' xD Unless you intentionally mashed them both together since they are the overhyped weapons lol
Cool video, I know you don't usually post much about the lore side of things but you have a good voice for narrating the RP backstory they provided for these weapons.
I don't like how the art on melee weapons have gone over the years... All swords and axes looks fucking blunt! Like they would be used to beat your enemies to death instead of chopping or cutting.
+Noobfist
I understand part of the artstyle of wow is oversized weapons, that's been the case since before WoW.
There's even a place for dumb weapons. especially for maces. My fury warrior used the first season wod pvp epic swords for a while because they looked pretty fucking brutal and had literal skulls for handles.
That being said, there is a lack of good blades in WoW. something that looks fairly thin, with a sharp blade. something you could parry with and then fuck your opponent up with. Big brutal weapons don't HAVE to be oversized, too-thick cleavers.
the blades could benefit from being a bit more 'boring', becasue adding weird shit to blades doesn't make them any better
axes have fared a little better, a few polearms as well, as it stands there's a lot of shitty sword models out there
+GlobstersMessenger I just miss weapons like the draconic avenger or the high warlord's battle axe.
Even with the old texture they look cool as shit and have a sharp metalic edge.
Most weapons now looks to be crafted out of stone.
Noobfist
I agree.
there's a place for the newer style of weapons. but it can make them look less powerful and more bulky/unweildly
there are some cool weapons that are pretty oversized but look powerful, then there are, as preach puts it 'spade swords'
+Noobfist I know. I don't understand why people want 'flashy' weapons. You see people looking at weapons that are completely unrealistic and they still say "...Meh, too boring". It goes the same for armor - you want it to protect you, not have massive three foot tall horns and glowy stuff everywhere.
Stone Keyboard
thing is it's less realism, because when we talk realism there's not really anything in wow that comes close, even some of the very simplest stuff
it's about something you can look at and go 'ok cool that could work'
you can have a lot of variation in weapons while still keeping a cutting edge blade that looks reasonable
Great video Preach! Being a Paladin that loves the Warcraft lore, I've always wanted to wield the Ashbringer! Keep it up man!
In the example of Aegwynn's staff, Aluneth... I think the lore snip is fine. It looks like in some cases, they are leaving the rest of the story to be discovered while playing. Aegwynn was extremely powerful as the Guardian who killed the avatar of Sargeras. She would not have chosen to use it unless it was powerful. Her randomly finding the weapon actually makes me feel like she was out questing just like we do. With the origin of the weapon untold, there could be great secrets to be discovered.
Thanks so much Preach, feels like i've been waiting forever to see some of these
few seconds in to the video and already there is famous weapon Doombringer making his appearance lol
This video was one of your best in my opinion, keep it up man!
Hmmm... Preacher sounds weird.. He's too calm.
+ryuno2097 he was pretty down last night. It's not good :( Blizzard has gone too far this time
worfeh Damn that sucks. I didn't watch Blizzcon last night, so whatever happened must've really had a effect on him.
+worfeh Explain please? :(
+smashthegash came to post this lol
+ryuno2097 i think he's pissed because they have pre-order bonuses and the lv100 boost is a joke
Although its not the usual type of content I expect from this channel, the ridiculously smooth preach voice and background music made it a really good watch. Don't care about accuracy.
The Mistweaver staff seemed like a powerful artefact to me. The Emperor used the staff during his trials, yes, but that's not all he did with it. He also held the staff as he shrouded the entirety of Pandaria in a thick mist, which is the single most impressive feat of Mistweaving in all of Azeroth's history.
Great vid man. I tend to like all of yours and this one is up there in the top 5, good job.
Personally I take a different approach to the lore than you do. I think that the things like the Scythe of Elune and Aluneth have stronger lore than other things because we've seen it before. It wasn't just made up for the weapons, but it's been there. That aspect, for me personally, is stronger because it feels more important. It feels real compared to the demon hunters' weapons or the maw of the damned. Those had to be made up. The Scythe of Elune and Aluneth existed before artifact weapons. I think they have the large end of the stick, so to speak.
Great video as always Preach. I pretty much agree with you on all of them. Like you said I really can't wait to see the various class changes and see how these new weapons and lore tie into them. As well as how the new class halls and quests fit with the new ways we play these specs. Gimme Legion now please!
Great to see that Blizzard put alot of effort into the Prot Warr artifact...................................................................................................................................
+Mrgotwow Legions Probably true lol, CMs and Mythics - LF DK or DH.
You realise that lore wise its literally perfect?
+Marcus Rossi Im not complaining about that, just saying that it looks terribly boring
Mrgotwow You haven't even seen all the designs yet, just the base and one of the variations. It will look like that the first few weeks max..
Preach doing a lore(ish) video, i never thought i would see this day. but quite a good video to add.
Love most of the lore behind the weapons great stuff
Long day of Blizzcon? You sound tired.
Man I need to donate to your patreon if this is the sort of content we're gonna be getting. An hour long video so soon after blizzcon goes live.Well played Preach keep it up man.
I belive that demonology wepon isnt floating infront of our faces, but floating next to the player.
We crash bandicoot now biys
+Marcus Rossi oodibigah
+Le Vellor just gonna transmog warglaives
yay legion looks good , cant decide what artifact i wanna go for its like chooseing a class lol , good to see preachs wow vids now there is alot of new info , mind still blown on all the stuff they shown over the weekend , look forward to the next vids ! :D
"Scythe of Elune not enough lore"
Preach you seem so chill in this video. You make me feel so relaxed.
I'm sad. The arms weapons aren't elegant. Sweeping strikes with a jagged saw blade that's held together by lava?? Elegant cleaving swings with a fucking fish hook??
I wish fury had as nice weapons as arms. Not one handers. When I think of a fury warrior with relentless attacks making their name. I think of wielding 2 two hands and they just don't stop attacking and that no one else has the strength to do this. Single minded fury is like yay I can flail my arms like a rogue and go past a stamina break point......
+Anton Henricsson Lest we forget, artifact weapons will have customizable skins
+MrJustinArt lest we forget none of the skins we've seen so far for other weapons change the overall shape of the weapon. You're not gonna be able to get a basic ish high res great sword that's just straight with a cool pommel. We will be stuck with over designed cancer.
+Anton Henricsson
-That assumption might be a little premature (unless they show it later today and I feel silly)- edit: they're up: Arms is not there (but Fury is, and it's meh..). Yeah, we're probably not gonna get something non-jagged and straightforward(?) like the re-skinned/modeled Ashkandi, but they've shown only two skins; we might (_might_) get more later on.
I agree looking at it now, though. If they removed the jagged tip of the Arms artifact I would like it more.
TheEponet I have pretty much every 2handed tmog I could want, I want new stuff. With confirmation that no other weapon will even drop in Legion we know for a fact the only new weapon skins will be for the Artifacts and I am pesimstic at best.
Awesome video, Preach, Thanks for the coverage.
Titans grip is 100000000000000 times better than shitty minded fury. Been playing Warrior since Vanilla and this just killed me
+kevin macdonald considering that titans grip came with wotlk your statement is pretty silly
+kevin macdonald Wait didn't they add the titan grip in Wotlk ? not that i would know i played only prot in Vanillia and BC
+TheDuriel Leave it to a brony to not understand a simple sentence, he meant that it's horrible because he has spent so much time playing the class, and now a big part of it is being removed.
Helgi Páll Eiríksson
I can relate with my 2nd spec as a Dk i loved played 2handed Frost now they choose for us,but i think it will affect most of the classes just the fact that Survival hunter are Melee now,it's part of their Class overhaul that they spoke about.
Like Helgi said, I never said anything about TG being in since vanilla, I said I was playing a WARRIOR since vanilla. I was stating that TG is far more fun and just feels better than SMF, and it's shitty that they are removing the more popular choice for the sake of artifact weapons. It's a fact that dual wielding 2 handed weapons is far more badass than dual wielding 1 handed weapons
Preach, you have my /respect. Sitting on the weekend and doing your job.
The DOOMBRINGER! #Neverforget
I read all the weapon drops on the official site, but your commentary was great. I really enjoyed it. I hope the messages from weapons would be awesome like the puzzle box of yogg-saron.
Seriously disappointed seeing BM hunters forced to a gun and the MM hunters get a faboo bow. Should have been the other way around. Thank gods for the ilevel 710 felblight crystal pvp longbow and mogging so I don't have to look at that butt-fugly trolltooth gun any longer than absolutely necessary.
You know that the Hidden Artifact Weapon for Titanstrike it turns to a Gnomish Bow
I really appreciate the time, effort, and information put into your very informative videos, as a regular viewer of both your channel and Dolan's, I get not only the lore behind most things, but also the more technical information (more deets etc). thanks for this Preach, and I actualley went to Blizzcon, u should contact me!
1h for Fury Warrs... we got ass-fucked by blizz
You forgot to put again at the end. Fury has always gotten shit on by blizzard
+jezior_lca Nope. Titan's Grip is still for Fury; confirmed at the Q&A. The weapon models are just undersized and will be changed in a later build.
+jezior_lca Confirmed they will be 2 handed with a size increase to the model.
+Jayson Pritchard (Jaytitan) +Bradford Walker That is perfect! thx for the info :)
+Bradford Walker
Too bad the weapons look like the Season 16 1 handers.
Resizing them will just make them look even more like ass.
Why can't we have an axe, like Gorehowl or Xal'atoh? Axe of Cenarius, perhaps?
Haha most of my favorites were the ones you didn't like as much! It's always cool to hear other people's opinions. Thanks for this video, Preach!
54:50 Why do you keep saying Doombringer? It's Doomhammer ffs xD
I used this as an ASMR video. Helped my drift away into sleep while listening to Preach's chocolate smooth voice.
god that Hunter BM rifle looks like shit, it seems like i will be using the big bad wolf rifle as transmog
I completely agree. BM should have got an awesome pet or something like that
+Pedro Igor I like it, I mean the base version isn't the best, but the side picture is cool and I can't wait for the others options.
+Archangel Of Darkness dont think pet would work since it would get boring having the same pet allways with you, also would feel bad for people who go rare pet hunting
+Riddl3r17 eh survival was the worst spec, just spam spam spam, no flow to it at all
+Monotire everyone has a taste, to me that rifle looks like shit, some greens look better
Excellent video Preach, you scored a thumbs up from me. I particularly enjoyed your reading of the lore. I'm not a lore junky but if you were of a mind to create more little tidbits I think I might listen in.
You made fun of me when I brought up dual wielding druids, you made fun of me when I talked about bears and cats using fist weapons on your stream, you called them "kitten mittens" well now they are a reality and I sound happier about it then you about it, but that could be because you're tired.
When the sub daggers were leaked I though they were assassination also, I find them a bit underwhelming comparatively to the other weapons people are getting, to me they look like a mix between mannaroth's daggers and the ones of assault. The variants also don't seem to impressive, at least the ones we've seen so far.
Lastly, for Arms warriors I was really hoping they'd go with The Axe of Cenarius. Seeing it goes down a similar path lore wise as some of the artifacts, weapons that hurt the legion in their past, only thing being that The Axe of Cenarius would stand out even more being the only mortal weapon that has wounded Sergé if my memory serves me correctly.
Fantastic video man, was looking for something like this, thanks :D
Of all the things we could get as a warrior. We got the trash..
That's blizzard for ya, I expected a lot more out of arms and fury the prot one could be a little better but it's the best out of the 3
Not sure how I feel about the whole concept of this, but some of the weapons do look really cool. I guess we'll see how it plays out. Thanks for the video and insight, Preach!
"doombringer" lol
I actually really like the Prot Warrior artifacts. The sword is admittedly pretty "meh" but both of those shield variations are perfect (in my opinion). They look really cool, they look strong and obviously durable, but they aren't super flashy and gimmicky, like some of the artifacts do. They look like they are simply down for business, which fits Prot warrior well.
Awesome video man. Love your channel!
doom bringer was held by ogrim doom bringer... HAMMER .. DOOM HAMMER!!! lol silly
+Saydee Of Arathor furthermore this is a awesome vid i am so excited
+Saydee Of Arathor I searched the comments section for this exact comment. Thank You sir.
lol?
+Saydee Of Arathor His surname wasn't Doombringer.
Really nice video. Love the indepth look at all of them
Thoroughly disappointed with all of the Warrior weapons, all new Lore thrown onto 3 new weapons.
I feel you on this one, and I'm saddened by the fact fury will probably be single minded I always loved Titans grip it's even in most of the lores that a Titan made the weapons. Atleast make the weapons have a story line that only the strongest can wield the weapons because the 2 2-handers are made for Titans to hold. I never linked single minded fury it doesn't feel powerful as a warrior compaired to Titans grip.
I agree, the whole attraction of fury for me was two 2h's, and now it's going to be gone and replaced with two one handers that look like arse.
Yeah, honesty If they don't change it im swapping to maining prot. spec on my warrior who was my main for 4+ years. and I might just swap to my monk or DH when it drops to my main
Nicky Wojtasinski I was thinking the same, I want something that means something to my character, not some random new weapon while I see pala's with Ashbringer :P
+Much Doge You understand that's like 90% of the weapons on here right?
Enjoyed your video very informative and nice way to get a second look at the upcoming weapons being implemented into the game
Doombringer xD
Thank you again for putting in the table of contents
great vid. i think you might be a lil hard on some of the wep designs but all an all i completely agree with you. especially that bit about shield not getting durability and the skull talking to you. i really hope they hear you and make those changes/additions
So I play all tanks I'm excited for the Pally/Warrior shields. Also I was gonna put a comment about the durability loss but you hit the nail right on the head.
Fabulous video Preach. You do great work, and I can see following your channel and watching your WoW videos even if I stop playing the game (which I have at this point).
Mixed feelings about the weapons overall. Seems to me they aren't putting forth the effort into the stories and some of the models that they deserve, and I'm thinking it's probably a sign of how Legion will actually play out. Like WoD we had a reason to hope for real epic-ness in a game that should be epic, and may in fact get, like WoD, a shadow of the promise of that story.
But we'll see of course; it's too early to lose all hope.
Really loving this type of vid preach :D something diffrent but very good :D hope you can do more vids like this
thank you! this was great to watch!
Ret pally, holy priest and Afflic lock are my go-to classes so I'm pleased with the artifacts for those classes as well as the lore :)
really enjoyed you embracing some lore!
the arms warrior skins, IMHO, i feel are the reason for transmog. the lore for most of these are good enough, and i hope they (blizz) have at least 12 version for each, cause otherwise there will be a lot of upset people. thank you for the time you took to make this video.
Orgrim Doombringer though, the way you said it so calmly was to good. Well played sir.
Love all the warlock stuff I think the stories behind it works great
For hunters - I think BM should have been the melee spec. It makes a lot sense, especially because of Rexxar. Imagine dual wielding axes with your pet. Also, that gun would fit AMAZINGLY well with Survival, since they've always focused on more magical damage (Black Arrow, Explosive Shot, Arcane Shot).
I loved all warlocks weapons destro is looking to be changing a bit which is great and btw.... this is the first time I've seen you talking about lore haha great work
The Shadow Priest dagger scares the hell out of me.
I LOVE IT
Great video, really enjoyed it.
Main warlock here. Very impressed by the warlock artifacts. The backstories make me very interested in everything going on with them. And with the new information they discussed today with the Affliction weapon, gives a great example of the uniqueness that a lot of these artifacts will have. I don't wanna jump on the hype train too soon but so far things are looking promising. This stuff should definitely help with immersion and class identity as well, which is something I think we have all been missing.
I will say this in the spirit of objective fairness; You do create content that focuses on what are most of my favorite elements of this game and the over all lore as it exist in many forms of media. I think it's the constant complaining I cant bring myself to suffer.
Arcane staff story is amazing, a mysterious staff that has been wielded by one of the most powerful mages in recent history for centuries, i imagine over that time a lot of power has gone through it, making it really strong, and as an arcane mage you have to find where she left it. so many options there for how the mages come to use it, loved it!
My main is a Warlock, and all of the warlock artifacts make my jaw drop. And now that you can tri-spec, I reckon having a floating skull would be pretty awesome.
Fantastic video,these all weapons are so amazing and awesome.
totaly agree with your discussion regarding story and 'look' of the weapons matching or not matching up.
I'm pretty excited for that dagger for shadow priests. That sounds so good and so in line with how it feels when I switch to shadow after playing disc or holy. Laying down the healing spells and picking up a dark power.
I agree with you Preach about the rogue with the daggers. The sub ones do fit the assassination rogue better and the same goes with the other.
Preach I appreciate the hard work and how you're doing this from the perspective of someone that doesn't know the lore but with that said you have no idea what you're talking about especially the Assassination daggers and Fire mage sword they're kind of a big deal lol
please make more of these justl ike coverage videos i really enjoyed hearing your input thank you so much
cant wait to see every variant, so cool they are making many different models of the same weapons
I really love the idea of using a guardian's staff as a mage. The descriptions they provide seem like an excitement tool to make us want our artifact weapons. They don't want the descriptions to tell us the full stories, the full stories come by getting, and then upgrading them as we get artifact power. So as a mage, I love getting a guardian's staff. I don't need to be shown why it's an amazing staff, it was wielded by the guardians of tirisfal, mages who invoke fear in kil'jaeden, archimonde, and even sargeras himself. I didn't need a description to get hyped for my staff, they just needed to tell me what it was, and I had to understand that I would learn about it while I'm getting it and continuing it's story.
he seems alot more intrested in lore now, i LOVE it
I think the Brewmaster Staff is amazing.
The entire concept of the Monk class is using body and mind, not weapons, to defeat your enemies. When you master the body, the tool becomes irrellevant, and a mere "walking stick". It does however come with a flagon of beer - which is always nice!
i agree with the rouge wepon swap, but on another topic, will you do a pre-stream today? talk about you feelings for day 1 and later make a more in-depth video for your channel?
Really looking forward about the demo rework. Been a Demo since Wrath and I'm really happy to see an actual "DEMON SUMMONING" class
Actually Felo'melorn has a pretty cool background with the wars it fought and the kings of quel'thelas heading into battle with it causing immense damage and its actually something I was super hyped seeing as a weapon.
your coments on the rogue artifacts really opened my eyes to look past the hype
I agree, the arms/fury weapons are quite underwhelming, I was really hoping they would go with something BWL'ish like krul-shoruk or the 2hand dragon axe (forget the name) the prot shield and sword are the best of the lot, the shield especially.
Very nice video Preach, as always.
man, I cannot WAIT until this expansion.. right now I'm leveling up all my alts so that I'm ready before it releases next year :)
"The scepter can rip open dimensional gateways between worlds." HOLY OP SHIT BLIZZ
Love the Brewmaster staff, it's basically just a cooler version of my favourite monk staff currently in the game, the one with the bottle on it. I think it suits a wandering monk very well. As for the Blood Death Knight, my god, that is the most metal axe I've ever seen. Overall I'm happy with the artifacts, obviously we're getting lots of different skins, so there's bound to be something for everyone (Or most at the very least) to enjoy. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on them in game.
EDIT: Turns out I can edit youtube comments, who knew? Everyone? Okay then.
I really like the Prot Warrior artifacts, which seemingly makes me part of the minority. They're simple(ish), reliable, not overly ornamental. They look like they're designed to absorb hits and kill people. Nothing more, nothing less.
i can finally feel super badass as a shadow priest, wielding a dagger that will turn your mind to mush, cant wait, especially with the possible changes to spriest orbs/insainty build up
The warlock demonology weapon looks really interesting, its nice to see them take a different approach with at least one of the weapons
I really enjoyed this video! TUURE here I come! I generally dislike Naaru looking items . .but HEY- maybe there will be a skin I can adore.
An hour long Preach video? Yes please!
If I recall, Felo'melorn was originally a staff and the defining weapon of the Sunstrider dynasty, used by King Anaesterian Sunstrider when he battled Arthas as he tried to march across the water to Quel'Danas and the Sunwell, where it was destroyed as the King fell. Kael'thas would eventually recover the pieces of the weapon and have it reforged into a spellsword which is what would be used against Arthas (again) as he made his way to Icecrown Glacier before Illidan could destroy the Lich King.
no way, the Valkyrie is called Helya (Hell Yeah), that is amazing. As for the warrior weapons I am glad that we can transmog over those. The rogue lore doesn't fit the weapons I aggree with you there, but it really doesn't bother me at all. Can't wait to try out the warlock, and the new combat rogue :)
Very excited for the Outlaw spec instead of Combat. Pirate spec confirmed. Awesome choice.
+Chaotic Games I was hoping the pirate spec would get sword and pistol instead of double swords :(
Dude the Druid forms have me so hyped
When I see the lore that comes with these weapons, an idea comes to mind. I speculate that these weapons, especially when fighting against the legion, will give the wielder some kind of "Super ability" based upon the reason it was created or for it's power. For example, "Truthguard" would actually be able to push back enemies with it's holy power and shield allies when the enemy is becoming too overwhelming. Then maybe similar with "G'Hanir" for resto druids, would be given an AoE ability to heal vast amounts of your allies' health.
Not sure why people are commenting so much about the appearance of the weapon... There will be a hell of alot of transmogs available to unlock during the expansion...