Zwift Switch to '90s Graphics with NEW Climb Portal Feature!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2023
- Coming soon to Zwift is the highly anticipated "Climb Portal" experience, and early feedback from users has been nothing short of eye opening! 😉 In this video, I'll give you an overview of what awaits you if you decide to embark on this new vertical challenge within the game, which is optional of course.
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What's On Zwift Climb Portal Routes: bit.ly/3XDOaOE
ZwiftInsider First Ascent Challenge Article: bit.ly/44kfAf3
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Agree with you Shane. I welcome there being more climbing options because I’ve done the other in game climbs plenty. When I’m slogging up them the scenery is the least of my concerns when I’m sweating out of my eyeballs
The only thing I’d ask of Zwift is to make more than one of these available at once, maybe something like a short, medium and long climb option on any given day
Haven't Zwift always used 90s graphics?
Shhhhhh! 🤫
😂
Climb Portal... what a sloppy way to give us more climbs. So many iconic climbs and worlds to build and we get blocks 😂
@@cadumgarcia ZMinecraft! ⛏
@@gplama yes, this is my son's comment when he first saw Zwift. Inspired by Minecraft.
I think, this could finally be the gateway to customized routes, uploading gpx data, being able to train on other real world locations, e.g. training for your local grand fondo. And imagine a "Zwift Editor App", where you can add trees, houses, lawns etc. on your custom zwift route; just like in some classic computer games. Would be awesome.
There are probably many reasons for the retro graphics approach. My guess is that using a single, simple climbing graphics model, they can quickly add new climbs using GPS data with very little human intervention. This is really a win/win because they can quickly churn out new content and we get to do lots of new climbs! Even the current in-game climbs that are fully rendered aren’t the actual climb. That would be the main selling point for me. I think the graphics complainers are overreacting. I’m stoked to try it. 👊
For me zwift ist the best tool for seeing / feeling the speed. And these kind of climbs with any visual feedback (nothing comes near to you, nothing rushing by), kills that feeling.
I actually think this is a great first step, I'm looking forward to giving it a go and dragging my fat ass up some new climbs for the tron! One step closer to uploading our own routes whether that's real or custom fun workouts!
I love this concept. I hope they leverage it for many more routes and further develop the more popular climbs in due course. Totally agree with Shane, hope to see the hot climbs of the day pop up on Zwift! I'll be doing every one I get the chance to!
Graphics aside this is a pretty exciting feature. I like the possibility of watching the TDF riders going up the Galibier and afterwards riding the same profile, or the day before.
Said this in another video, but this looks perfect for implementing hills in our own backyard. If the devs can use it to pump out various TDF hills then surely we can also use it to ride on our own hills.
I want to ride other people's hills! South Louisiana has NONE. But I do hope this leads to loading custom climbs. I don't need realistic graphics on my virtual cycling worlds
Exactly my thoughts! Totally doable with the simple graphics design :) that way you can replicate a friends climb for example and see if you could keep up
RGT has Magic Roads using generic 3D landscape over your own GPX file and Rouvy allows you to create your own route with or without IRL video. Both of which require some work by the user, but you can then ride solo or woth friends any time you like. Would be easy for Zwift to do the same if that suited their strategy.
A year ago I could hardly walk because of knee pain, now I am almost pain free .. I love Zwift because it got me though the winter (Uk) on my 2nd hand kick snap. Now I have the hub and play controllers love it looking forward to my wheel not slipping going up those hills 🎉😂😊
Came here for the Rouvy shoutout. Was not disappointed. :)
I think its a great idea. While I initially thought the graphics looked a bit amateurish and perhaps rushed to a meet a product launch date, I can see what agility this gives Zwift. They can add any route extremely easily, without having to code all the background detail, which must take a lot of effort. It may get a little dull after a while, but so does any training. Riding up Ventop is pretty boring too. So, I'll definitely be using it and look forward to working through all the climbs that are released, not only this month for Tour de France routes but many other regions too. Let's see Dante’s View, Mauna Kea, Hardknotts Pass etc. Not just the grand tour climbs.
Time to train an AI on their existing courses, then run it on their 3D video of the new courses. Won't be perfect, but should be 90% there. Can likely generate a decent video environment for each climb in a few hours without human input. Then humans can clean it up, add clever aquirrels, yeti, sloths, etc.
@@higgi13425 This would be similar to magic roads on RGT. It would be great for some races to be able to link climbs as well, although at 90 kg, I think it would kill me.
Oof. Mauna Kea. That's a long one.
I love the concept and think it’s a great idea, just wish they would let us choose the climbs we wanted on the day or have 2 climbs to choose from at the same time rather than waiting 2 weeks for the climb we want to tackle to be featured
All 8 climbs available from the menu. Only 1 will be available on freeride (cycling through the portal)
Love the call out to Rouvy! 😂 I guess once you’re grunting along through the gears we’ll find out… but I figure having some scenery sometimes helps to forget the pain?
I'm stoked about this. Looking forward to try it out when summer is over here in Europe, and the hard, agonizing sessions in the pain cave starts. The graphics look cool. Something new and refreshing. And yetis are real.
I rode Puy de Dome today. I really enjoyed it. It’s a different experience for sure, but enjoyable. I liked how the colors changed with the gradient!
2:21 I’ve heard that sound before in game. I always thought it was the sound of the tires rolling on the ground. I noticed that when you use your brakes (with Zwift Play controllers) you hear the brakes on the rims.
Looks good to me! I will see how I feel about it when I am suffering. I do not have a problem with it initially and love the ability to ride real climbs. This is what I am training for!
Something new is always motivating, looking forward to doing all of these climbs during the Tour. Thanks!
It looks like rain this weekend so I'm going to climb the Puy de Dôme on Rouvy. Should be a good challenge. If you want even a bigger challenge try mamiky's route of the Stelvio Pass on Rouvy. 15.95 miles with 6040 feet of elevation gain at an average of 7%. Plus you get to look at the amazing scenery on the way up.
I'm pumped for it. Firstly, I love Zwift and secondly, I love climbing. Anything new gets me excited.
I think it looks like a really great feature, apart from the graphics. I was expecting some kind of procedurally generated tarmac with generic roadside objects. But maybe if they had done that, I'd complain it was too similar to the rest of Zwift.... so all credit to Zwift for trying new and different things.... I'm just not sure I'll ever grow to love the visuals (but I'll still use it anyway)
and if they did that everyone would cry out that they're just copying RGT's magic roads.
@@strongmen yes good point
I can already see a october 31st or April 1st climb being a crazy 25% straight for 10 miles or something. They can make some crazy climbs on these
Plot twist - On those days they give us a -15% descent for 10 miles!
Going to put on some 90s rave tunes and go for it :). Looking forward to trying it out.
Wipeout 😅
I tried it for the first time today - Cote de Pike, it was hard (I'm a clydesdale) but it was awesome! Keep bringing it Zwift, I loved how hard it was for me.
I think it looks interesting. I'd like realistic graphics better, but that is also a lot of work for the devs. Nice little change from the usual routes. I will certainly try to get up one of those.
Good start. I'll be trying a few
I look forward to the new rotating climbs, but I shudder to think what my pain cave is going to look like with my Phillips Hue lights mirroring the light colors from the Zwift screen!
When I got my indoor trainer last year I installed zwift first thing with the trial. 10 minutes into the trial I never touched it again and been using Rouvy since. To me doing real climbs is just so much more interesting and I really enjoy watching the footage., but then again I wouldn't bother with any of the racing aspects Zwift has to offer. Also love the user uploaded ones on Rouvy to massively expand the library (Although can be a bit tricky to find good ones).
Ì tried it yesterday, I dont tend to watch the surroundings much during a climb , I usually focus on the dashboards and the other riders so it works for me. It made pacing the climb a lot easier and gave a good workout. One thing that would improve it for me is a ghost rider like they have in the sprints, so I can see how I'm doing against my best time.
Good innovation and timely too. Means I can keep climbing through the winter ☃️
My Zwift subscriptions is currently suspended, this will make me reactivate it. I love the idea that Zwift can quickly add routes, see what the engagement is like, then build them out will full graphics later. I can see so much use for this type of "just ride" route. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good Yeti sighting, but this is a great way for a flatlander like me to practice climbing regularly on all different types of routes.
Wait.... you're swimming against the stream! Reactivating your subscription!? 👌🏼 Keep me posted on your thoughts once you've ridden a few of these new climbs.
I think it’ll be good when they can be used for events. A multi stage race over a few climbs would be a great event.
Or a portal at the bottom after your decent to take you to another pass. E.g Toumalet then galibier
GREAT idea for the color of gradient coming up so I can change gears at the right times!
The most obvious comparison point is the Magic Roads functionality of Wahoo RGT. They can create a rideable route from any GPS track. It tries to look more realistic by having actual hillsides, trees and such. The fact is that to me, it's no better than what Zwift has done here. They don't look like the real thing either.
Creating a realistic looking virtual version of a real-world climb is not that easy. And if it's going to be off in any case, I can fully appreciate why Zwift went with 100 % video game visuals. This does fit into the overall design of Zwift quite nicely, and like Shane points out, it's not like Zwift is forcing this on the users.
Raining today so signed back up to Zwift to try it out, looks good.
Finally.... now my Tron bike has a suitable 80's retro environment 😄
I have only just started coming back on Zwift for the autumn and winter, and yesterday saw the link for Climb Portal: Coll d'Ordino in Watopia. So I thought I would give it a go, and I loved it. I was a hard climb, the graphics are great especially as you can see what's coming. I am looking forward to doing as many as possible, and hope Zwift put on as many different climbs as they can.
I love Zwift for training, racing & predictability. But for new adventures, long rides, climbs & multiday events Rouvy has so much to offer. So 2 months zwift, 1 month rouvy is a nice mixup.
WTF…. now I need sunglasses indoors as well 😎
Hey Lama, first Yetti's do exist. It appears Zwift is evaluating a sort of cloning process that will pay dividends in the near future as they will be able to spin up & deploy GPS accurate climbs in a lot less time without "terrain realism" . Terrain can be integrated later as an overlay of sorts. After all this is there low season & a great time to introduce newer/different technologies. Can't wait to try the climbs on 100% trainer dificulty.
I love climbs and have wanted more for years....here we go, more added every month. Brilliant. Can't wait to knock all these out.
Tried it - 2 Thumbs Up!!
i like it, had a longer post typed but it was more from a developers point of view. its what i do full time and have been for 20+ years, i think they could do so much more with this type of envisonment.
what i mean by the above, think custom climbs like we have custom workouts
Bloody brilliant idea. So stoked to see some innovation here. The simplified graphics will only be BETTER for focus and getting the most out of the training.
What's with all these positive comments!? They're not helping my angle of generating a ton of rage to feed the TH-cam algorithm! Just kidding, I'm happy to see some positivity around a new feature. 👌🏼
@@gplama rage you ask for, i'll scream and scream and scream until i'm sick. was looking forward to more climbs, but the graphics are not for me. i'll pass.
Just finished Cote de Pike and loved the new experience. Looking forward how this feature will evolve in the future.
Love it. If they can do an autogenerate on the surroundings it will be better, but for starters I'd say 👍
I just started on Zwift after Christmas and the climb portal is one of my favorite features. I think developing real life scenery for so many varied climbs would probably be quite expensive. I would rather my fees not go up!
I'm looking forward to trying this as it is offers additional new climbs.
Looking to the future, as you said, simplified graphics could be added.
It will allow a lot of new climbs/routes to be added relatively easily.
Further into the future, this may be a gateway into using your own gps track, to reproduce an online version with matching turns and climbs/descents of a route/race you wish to train for.
Fabulous...living in Chicago (very flat) ...added climbing is nice; thanks for explanation.
My second ride on zwift, I took a left turn and ended up doing 'Puy de Dome'. Have to say, I wasn't expecting it and would have preferred proper scenery I think, however it was a good workout which I enjoyed (once I was nearing the top anyway).
Interesting. So it looks like an existing RGT feature but riding inside a VeloViewer gradient profile. Looks pretty nice. For riding up representations of real climbs I'd probably use Rouvy but will be interesting to see how this evolves.
I love Trainer Road, I love Zwift and I can’t wait to try that new feature!
Looks great, can’t wait to give it a try
Well said Shane 👍
I’ve been on Zwift since the second wave of beta testers. Except for summers during pandemic I’ve put Zwift into vacation mode from June to August. But the wildfire smoke from Canada changed my usual plan. Looking forward hitting the portal later today. Or I can find my OG Sufferfest discs.
AWESOME!
Did my first climb today. Pretty tough for sure. I loved it. Great concept 😊
Stay tuned for more updates to this very soon!
I want the full Mario kart experience. Let’s battle up the climbs!
I'm happy with the update and looking forward to attempting the climbs.
I enjoy the climb portal. Cool idea!
Climb portal is pretty cool, it may actually get me to resubscribe before winter! Wish they’d let you choose the climb yourself though..
It's like riding up a 3d VeloViewer climb profile. I think that's kind of cool.
Thanks 😊
Love the idea and its implementation!
Like many other riders my zwift sub is paused for the summer but to me this looks a positive addition to the zwift routes. I never really notice the graphics much on the tougher climbs, I like the colour coding on the road too, is it the same scheme as Garmin's ? Looking forward to trying it out when the weather changes IRL !
Just done Puy de Dome, great fun
Agree 100% Shane. This is a great feature for our climb-y friends!
This looks fantastic. Can't wait to climb moooore!
I love it. Great way to add climbs without having to find a way to integrate into current maps. And I totally agree with other comments that I'm not looking at the scenery when doing the big climbs in game.
Minus the floating shapes, I like the concept. Using a similar color coding as the climb feature in wahoo or Garmin gps's makes it easy to understand your effort from a visual perspective (ie where you can recover, where the crux is ....) Too bad you don't get bonus points for the completing the climbs. Do you know if the portal is available as an event option for group rides?
Looks amazing
Good feature! 👍🏽
I think this is a great feature, and am looking forward to lots of other climbs in the future.
This is sweet! Can’t wait to try it! So many climbs! So little time haha!
I’m assuming you can still access a workout while on the climb, true?
Mine craft is super popular in the video game world. Not sure how this is different? Climbing training programs would be great with this new feature.
I would love this to be used for user routes, like RGT, get an old gpx or gpx for an event you're doing, load to zwift and ride away!
Given what I'd read about this it's so much better than I expected and is a really good addition.
Really looking forward to trying some new climbs, and liking that you can start the climb almost immediately (no lead-in) - so if you want a climb workout, that's what you get! The graphics don't bother me, in fact I like the rationale that basic graphics allow a faster roll-out of new climb routes. So, it's a thumbs-up from me!
Did a couple of spins up Pike today. One thing that prob needs updating is the AVG PWR shown at the top of the climb includes the lead in. Surely the AVG PWR from the very beginning of the climb is more important and useful.
Love it ~
It’s like you are Zwifting while tripping balls on mushrooms!
Isn't that how we're meant to ride it all the time anyway!?
@@gplama I don’t know about this feature. I just finished my second ride through the portal. Looks like we might be seeing the beginning of the end of Zwift’s dominance on the virtual ride market.
I welcome the feature. Great idea. I have been wishing for a new big climb for 4-5 years now, wondering why we don't have one that rides off the other side of the Alpe du Zwift. That way, you could ride up and down it, one side or the other. How cool would that be? This is a good feature to be added, but it feels pretty lackluster. I got Zwift years ago so I didn't have to stare at these kinds of graphics, or the wall, and train alone. It feels a little underimplemented to just be a single rider going up a graphic-less climb. They could have added procedural graphics of some sort. At the very least, I'd want to be able to ride with other Zwifters up these. All the footage I have seen is you alone on the climb. It would be nice to have that as a TT option, but the social aspect is missing on these, and that's a large part of what Zwift is all about.
Mixed feelings on it, especially as I've been a full-time sub for 6-7+ years (can't even remember now), even though I only use Zwift a few months of the year. They haven't added too much that is relevant to me, outside of a few routes here and there, better stability (important!), and some QoL (such as the ability to ride the world and route you want). That's good, but they have all but dropped the Drop Shop, which is really disappointing. I enjoy customizing my bike as a side thing to training. Still only have a couple of glasses, and only 2-3 that are even cycling glasses. Still don't have my bike's brand in there. Can't change gruppo, limited color options. And I can't overstate how nice it would have been to complete the other side of the Alpe du Zwift. Could be any climb too - maybe the Tourmalet. Seems like a bad oversight to not be able to choose a side of that mountain you wish to ride.
I love it and didn't think i would. It's great for that intense workout when you haven't got much time. I don't like that when you hit a steep climb, my avatar slowed down alot sooner than my smart trainer kicked in.
Hello GP Lama
At lassttt new grind and new Climb. Lets make a ride on party on the circle too congratulate those who climb it !
Fantastic idea. A sandbox for new challenges, while they keep building out the real world. I wish you could dial down the retina burning colors, though.
I’d also like to see some Easter eggs or random events to add some variety. Since you’re in a virtual world, spice it up some.
Looks fun, I'm excited to check this out. At the end of the day, Zwift is a video game, it doesn't need to be (and in my opinion shouldn't be) hyper realistic, you can go ride outside for that!
In the top menu where you can registration a challenges or stage race. Are there the climb portal. Just click on that and you have 8 climb to chose. The challenges (climb potal). To complet the challenges just complet 1 climb from stage 1 and 1 climb from stage 2
So , did we all forget this was a video game , can't wait to try it out !!
I imagine you waiting for 12am ready to ride! 😆
Looking forward to giving it a try. Thanks for the video Shane.
The climb portal is a great idea but climbing a 'veloviewer climb' is not better that climbing a GPX file with a Garmin/wahoo that control the trainer. I understand that in this way they can add a lot of climbs with less effort but i prefer the 'classic' (and old) graphics.
Can’t understand why people don’t like this, I think it’s great.
Ok the graphics can be better but it’s only just releasing so give it time.
I like the thought process of having different climbs so no end to what is possible on this front
Great video, you very factual on this one without sitting on one side of the fence
Gonna be crushing this shit. Netflix and Climb Portal here we come.
That’s a different take on Netflix and Chill. 🤣
I think the visuals look cool, the way the background changes to match the gradient feels really immersive. Would be great to see them add climb badges similar to route badges for ticking them off.
It's also a great way for Zwift to judge what climbs are popular to possibly add to new worlds later on. If everyone seemed to favour a particular world then they can focus on building that into a real climb in game.
I don’t like climbs but I do love this 😂
I’ve just had a ride and it’s bloody awesome.
I find it so funny that people think anyone gives a F**k if they leave lol😂
As a climb, I really like Ventoux in Zwift, but I rarely use it for training unless I'm trying to measure one-hour power because I find the segments on AdZ to be more useful as a training tool. I'm appreciative of another climbing option with segments, and I'm curious to see how the visual gradient representation helps provide a better simulation of real-life climbing. Sometimes I'll forget which corners on AdZ have flat sections on the exit where you can grab an extra gear or two and surge ahead. With a visually blue road, it's hard to not see the flat sections coming up. Definitely going to try it. One question, though: it looked like the ten segments each had a power-up banner. Could you climb with a TT bike and get +10 XP at every banner? If so, they may have just made a new hack for XP farming with some of these climbs being quite short.
That's actually cool
love the look of this
I think graphic is brilliant, its like Climb Pro with colour coded % gradient. Nicely done Zwift.