I really like this method for a steering solution. Also, I think the break feature is going to be great for trying to catch someone's draft without overshooting.
While I suspect I'm not necessarily the target demographic, these devices will be a boon to myself and others with movement disorders. My disability prevents me from using a touchscreen or keyboard interface. Perhaps these will work better and make for a more immersive experience.
I run on PC and BT keyboard, still these controllers complement my setup in an awesome way. They give me access to new features as well as alternative methods of accessing existing features. Works perfectly!
just ordered a set, was exactly what I was looking for, no need to sweat over my gaming PC to change anything or throw a water bottle at my space bar to use a powerup. Plus steering might be pretty cool. I dont have a permanent zwift set up so this is a perfect solution
Zwifting on PC I simply use the companion app together with unified remote (free) on my mobile to enable the keyboard/mouse functions in game. These Zwift remotes would be a nice upgrade to add steering but only at this price point, €150 would be a bit to pricey.
Bang goes the need for the overly expensive laptop tables :) I really like the look of these and, given I've got a PC setup, will work much better then having additional wireless kb/m etc..
Purchased the Sterzo a while back and then added the Tacx Neo Motion Plates to my setup. Good bye Sterzo! Missed the steering but love the feel of the motion plates. With the addition of the controllers, I will back to steering when they arrive. Another plus is that I use Apple TV for Zwift and can now kiss that devil remote goodbye! As always Shane, thank you so much for all your insight and wisdom.
1) It desperately needs a way to disable braking. In the heat of a race with steering enabled, you're going to have both hands on the paddles trying to stay on a wheel or get someone off your wheel. That makes it too easy to accidentally brake, and if you hit that for even a fraction of a second in a sprint you're going to lose. At least this can be added in the UI, fingers crossed. 2) They are thinking "inside the box" by not including a voice chat button. They should have a button to generate an obscure keycode that you could map to press-to-talk in your voice chat of choice (Discord, Teams, Teamspeak, etc.) We've all had that one guy on the team with an open mic who sounds like he's dying during the race, which is demoralizing to the rest of the team.
1 step closer to Zwift Mario Kart! Haptic feedback is a bonus. Now I can force my way into the paceline and peel myself out to breakaway (or supertuck or swap bikes).
I have it mounted on a Kickr bike with thick Lizard Skin tape on the handlebars. With considerable force and an implement, I managed to attached the straps, which are too short. Once mounted, the controls don't move at all. It easily pairs to Zwift on log-in on a PC. I leave the charging cord attached all the time for convenience. On the Kickr bike, I use both the Kickr steering and the Play steering. It's nice to have the option to pick depending on the circumstances during the ride. It's nice to have a quick and easy connection to the Action Bar on the Companion App without having to take your hands off the handlebars to reach your cell. The braking ability is a nice touch as well, if you like to stop quickly to change bikes. Highly recommended. I understand the price is going up in the not too distant future.....
@@richardgate1571 that’s exactly what I want! Mine is being delivered today so I’ll be able to test it later. It’s almost a shame the weather is so nice and I’m riding outside haha
Thanks for the review on these! The comment on Apple use was very helpful. I was on the fence about getting these, but because of the limited BT these would take up I’ll stick with the companion app for now & see if there is more added to these to make them more worth while in the future. They look pretty great for users who may not have their pain cave setup already sorted with other peripheries, as you said.
Yes very disappointed I can’t purchase in New Zealand??? Been supporting Zwift for 8years and they can’t ship to New Zealand or Australia? Come on Zwift get with it!!!
It looks good, but I’m not happy that they have not implemented the same turn at intersection feature for the kickr bike that’s been out for a few years.
It's a pity, but I presume there's no way for the arrow keys to control the drone view camera angle, since in free ride the up key is already assigned to opening the action bar, yes?
Will for sure grab these. if your TV has HDMI-CEC(most decent tv's probably do) you should be able to use your tv remote with the Apple TV, works fine with my LG tv remote also a 6 year old sony tv
This will be great for getting 10 year olds into Zwift. For the way I use Zwift there is no need for this but I am sure others will like it. Price looks expensive to me.
I bought a pair today. I use Apple TV, and have been using the remote on my phone for Zwift, but I never use it while riding because the phone stops responding when the screen gets wet, and I can't see a damn thing without my reading glasses. For $99, this seems worth it to me.
Not sure how you got on with these but the gap between levers and controller is tiny. It will take a while to remember which is brake and turn as I seem to brake accidentally. Also caused 2 events to crash and they keep loosing connection and flashing. Only half a meter from laptop. 😮
Just got my Zwift play controllers and i have to say i’m not entirely sold on them…i find that the orange steering/braking buttons are too close to my gear shifter paddles so i can’t really get my fingers on to the buttons. It could be that i use quite thick bar tape i suppose.
I use them, and there are ups and downs. Ups: I usually use an iPad, and just being able to control and look behind during a race is great. In workouts, it's also quick to change resistance in ERG mode. Overall, they provide everything you need right at your hands. Downs: I hope they change the brake function so that you have to brake with both hands to prevent accidental braking during a race. But the biggest downside for me is their placement. I often have my hands on the shifting grip, and you can't grip "hard" or even normally, because then you turn or have an awkward grip. So I ended up setting "them too low" so that I have my hands free both up and down, and then conversely, I have to move my hands down to turn or press the buttons. That's fine for me, as both ergonomics and game controls are within reach.
looks like they've found a customer in me - I have a pain cave setup with no extra companion app, a bike that I hook up for the whole winter, but really no room for a keyboard or a laptop table... I really like the execution on these devices, but I wish they both shared a single BLE channel.
I ordered, but BLE connection can be a problem. I have SB20 where booth powermeters have BLE, than mobile with Companion again with BLE to PC. And now this with two BLE`s. Wristwatch with BLE. Will see.😮 Only bike self with ANT+.
The people who are comparing these to XBox or PS controllers need to realise that Zwift isn't Sony nor Microsoft, so isn't going to sell millions of these, they are never going to be 75 (affix your own currency) or less a pop.
I've the sterzo and some powerup keyboard buttons. But this is the way forward. Been waiting for something like this for 4 years. It feels finally like an upgrade as the wifi connection on the kickr bikes are. Tooo long the only hardware upgrades werent game changing, I feel like this one will.
Hi Shane, really informative video as always. I watch this the first time but Im rewatching as Im going to chuck my Sterzo in the bin as I get 5 dropouts per ride from it. However, Ithere is an area not covered in the video which I hope that you can clarify. In the video, you make menu selections when entering the game using the controllers but youdidnt enter the Nenu when you were actually in game; also your button diagram is not labelled with a Menu button. For the example of an in game bike swap I would really like to know if this can be done from the Play Controllers or will I still have to use my Apple TV remote. It would be great if you could add this test into any future videos that you might be doing on the subject. Keep up the brilliant work.
Would definitely be interested in these but my one big issue is Bluetooth connections. I have a kickr, kickr headwind, HRM, phone with companion app, headphones/speaker and that maxes me out of connections.
@GPLama - is this a now purchase (whilst discounted) or wait slightly further down the line purchase ? I fell foul of the Sterzo and don't want to find an upgraded product coming shortly. For Apple TV only this will be a godsend
A possible problem that I may have is that I have a towel over my bars might need a bit of more careful placement over the bars and under the controllers. What happens if you press up, down, left, right A B C then start?
"zee" button? I thought you were one of us! 😂 I'm shattered that I can't buy one here in Australia atm. No point paying more for a redirection service at this point. Do you know if they'll have a beta/cheaper period here as well? Thanks Lama.
Please show how they navigate through training plans, ftp adjustment, route selection screen and bike frame colour change. Basically all the things ATV remote sucks at.
Would you advise this to buy in combination with a Wahoo Kickr Bike? I’m in doubt because, on the kickr bike you have already a couple of buttons, on the shifters, for some shortcuts (like activate a powerup). Also you can use steering with the kickr bike shifters. The biggest advantage would be the arrows to access the menu or change course without i need to stretch my arm to touch my IPad. But is no longer having to stretch my arm worth 99/150 euros… Anyway this is better then Wahoo’s steering wheel.
This seems to be a very useful gadget for Zwift, i immediately ordered, because i don't like to fiddle around on the laptop keyboard or in the companion app while riding, in my opinion the buttons are way to small to use while on a ride...
This is BLE only, CABLE is ANT+ to BLE.... not sure what the new NPE devices do... but it's unlikely they have a profile/mapping for the Play. Worth asking them I guess.
Have you been using these over the past 2 months? If so, how are they holding up? Are they useful? Do they get in the way? Will you do a follow-up video?
Great video.... super informative. I've bought a set of these for my wife and myself.... after a couple of rides, I'm a fan. A question.... where did I miss that fantastic Play mapping graphic? I'd love to have that for both our Zwift stations. Thanks.
The more “stuff” you hook up to your bike for turbo use, the less easy it is to quickly switch a bike between indoor and outdoor use - if you had these and a Kickr climb for instance, you might as well just buy a dedicated all-in-one solution such as wattbike. Seems really odd of Zwift to abandon their all-in-one Zwift bike given that they’ve now released the hub and now these shifters.
Switching bikes is way too much of a pain. We went out and bought a couple of old used bikes for our permanent Zwift setups, after just a couple months.
@@ZwiftInsider I honestly wish they'd just focus on software. The main product is still pretty weak, and I'm confused why it doesn't seem to be their primary focus.
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Do these work with other cycling apps like RGT as well (for steering at least)? Otherwise you might be better of buying one of the universal ones so you are less locked in.
Zwift getting more into the hardware game. I expect, like their trainer, this will not be available in Canada in the foreseeable future. The way Zwift is differentiating I imagine I will be moving away from that platform soon to something else but I’ll admit I’ve struggled to find anything that works so reliably.
Not a bad idea especially if you’re someone who has to wrestle with the awful Apple TV remote… but then again they’ve made things worse by having these things take up 2 extra bluetooth channels 🤦♂️ I can’t help thinking that maybe these could have included a bluetooth hub and made everyone’s life easier
I have a Wahoo Kickr Bike, which has steering. It sounds like these buttons might work better on Repack. I found it almost unrideable and very annoying trying to line myself up for the bonuses. It was entertaining for a single try, but I doubt I'll try it again.
What are your thoughts on getting bicycling sponsors via Strava? What wattage range should I be outputting? How many miles or elevation goals should I be meeting? End goal: Tour De France.
I've tried it today. I'm not happy with the paddles. I'd prefer the one on the left for just steering and the right one for braking (or vice versa). Also, I find the distance between the paddles and the small STI levers too small. Sprinting/climbing in the hoods position needs some getting used to because you can't grip with all fingers anymore. And I wish the buttons/paddles could be mapped (but that should be easy to implement in an update).
Nice video. Sprinting and out of the saddle on the hoods have enough room to really grab the bars and not hit buttons, or bit of a hand size, bike setup specific answer?
Would love to see you review the Avotro controller (esp as i think they ship from Australia?) :) at a similar price of $150 AUD, it's a fully functional general purpose bike handlebar game controller - but it's very low on reviews at the moment (see: 0) - If you're able to find out if it's any good, would be happy to purchase through an affiliate link :)
Thank you very much for this information, any idea when they may be available down under? Does anyone have any idea if the Stages SB20 steering buttons are ever gonna be able to be used on Zwift?
It’s a real shame that there isn’t a clear guide to the limits and pathway to connecting/bridging multiple devices via Bluetooth. Like a couple of other posts, I found myself maxd with a Kickr, Tickr, headwind and cadence meter. Having rushed to buy this great looking add on, I have found it terribly frustrating to connect the Play without messing up all my previously seem less setup 😢
Hmm, not sure about this.. I'd be happy to see Coffee Stop fixed in group events! It was working great then 1.41 broke it for group rides. EDIT: OK the more I checked out the Zwift Play toy the more I liked it. It has been ordered.
3:01 in the video shows I had these paired via the Companion App for this video. No notable lag/delays. This does depend on the speed/quality of the WiFi network used.
Looks really good but am wondering how well the silicone straps will last if switching between multiple bikes; wife and I both use the trainer so would need to transfer between each use🤔
I see the usual approach for UK pricing, just erase the $ sign and replace it with a £ sign. This makes them more expensive in the UK than they are in the US or EU. On current exchange rates $99 or €99 should be around £80. I use mobile phone on the bars to select functions in game but these devices seem to do more but at a price.
I also use mobile (Companion) between the bars, but I need to cover it against the sweat otherwise sweat drops start to play their own game on mobile screen.😄
when you take into account us prcies don't include tax and vat is higher then usa tax it makes sense that it cost more then just stright currency conversion.
At least you live in one of the few countries Zwift delivers. Here in Australia, like in many other countries, you can't buy items from the Zwift shop. Guess we will wait for some 3rd party knock off.
You answered my only concern at 4:10. Thanks! I think I'm going to give these a go.
I really like this method for a steering solution. Also, I think the break feature is going to be great for trying to catch someone's draft without overshooting.
Does the brake feature just slow you down in game or does the resistance on your trainer increase too if you pedal and brake?
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While I suspect I'm not necessarily the target demographic, these devices will be a boon to myself and others with movement disorders. My disability prevents me from using a touchscreen or keyboard interface. Perhaps these will work better and make for a more immersive experience.
I run on PC and BT keyboard, still these controllers complement my setup in an awesome way. They give me access to new features as well as alternative methods of accessing existing features. Works perfectly!
Great to see that clean water doesn’t affect them. Now long term testing with sweat and not cleaning them because that’s what everyone will be doing.
just ordered a set, was exactly what I was looking for, no need to sweat over my gaming PC to change anything or throw a water bottle at my space bar to use a powerup. Plus steering might be pretty cool. I dont have a permanent zwift set up so this is a perfect solution
Fantastic...ordered. The perfect device to complete my Zwift setup. Cheers Shane!
Zwifting on PC I simply use the companion app together with unified remote (free) on my mobile to enable the keyboard/mouse functions in game. These Zwift remotes would be a nice upgrade to add steering but only at this price point, €150 would be a bit to pricey.
Bang goes the need for the overly expensive laptop tables :) I really like the look of these and, given I've got a PC setup, will work much better then having additional wireless kb/m etc..
same this looks great as then all I really need is a mouse to click start on the zwift application.
Ordered it while I was watching your video!! Thanks for the updates!
People with Apple TV were asking Zwift for a better remote option and here it is! Still avg graphics but a huge improvement
Purchased the Sterzo a while back and then added the Tacx Neo Motion Plates to my setup. Good bye Sterzo! Missed the steering but love the feel of the motion plates. With the addition of the controllers, I will back to steering when they arrive. Another plus is that I use Apple TV for Zwift and can now kiss that devil remote goodbye! As always Shane, thank you so much for all your insight and wisdom.
1) It desperately needs a way to disable braking. In the heat of a race with steering enabled, you're going to have both hands on the paddles trying to stay on a wheel or get someone off your wheel. That makes it too easy to accidentally brake, and if you hit that for even a fraction of a second in a sprint you're going to lose. At least this can be added in the UI, fingers crossed.
2) They are thinking "inside the box" by not including a voice chat button. They should have a button to generate an obscure keycode that you could map to press-to-talk in your voice chat of choice (Discord, Teams, Teamspeak, etc.) We've all had that one guy on the team with an open mic who sounds like he's dying during the race, which is demoralizing to the rest of the team.
why do they even have a brake option do you know?
Fascinating that they do this, but still don't offer a route customizer.
That said, these look pretty amazing.
Man, Titan's grove gives me such grizzly hills vibes....ah what I'd give to ride from feralas to darkshore and back...
1 step closer to Zwift Mario Kart! Haptic feedback is a bonus.
Now I can force my way into the paceline and peel myself out to breakaway (or supertuck or swap bikes).
I have it mounted on a Kickr bike with thick Lizard Skin tape on the handlebars. With considerable force and an implement, I managed to attached the straps, which are too short. Once mounted, the controls don't move at all. It easily pairs to Zwift on log-in on a PC. I leave the charging cord attached all the time for convenience. On the Kickr bike, I use both the Kickr steering and the Play steering. It's nice to have the option to pick depending on the circumstances during the ride. It's nice to have a quick and easy connection to the Action Bar on the Companion App without having to take your hands off the handlebars to reach your cell. The braking ability is a nice touch as well, if you like to stop quickly to change bikes. Highly recommended. I understand the price is going up in the not too distant future.....
Great idea. Wish the control part could rotate to allow you to clip these to straight bars as I use my mountain bike on the trainer…
I have the same problem. Im getting curved bar ends (long ones) to see if that solves the problem
Are u guys still riding Repack Ridge ? I’m trying to find out if it’s still on Zwift as I’ve ordered a Sterzo for steering my mtb on Zwift
Enthusiastic Zwifters are probably excited about this gadget as well so good for them but personally companion app do the job well enough for me.
Hopefully there will be some button mapping options. I want to be able to quickly change my view while racing!
I read somewhere one of the buttons gives you a brief look behind you which is really useful
@@richardgate1571 that’s exactly what I want! Mine is being delivered today so I’ll be able to test it later. It’s almost a shame the weather is so nice and I’m riding outside haha
Thanks for the review on these! The comment on Apple use was very helpful. I was on the fence about getting these, but because of the limited BT these would take up I’ll stick with the companion app for now & see if there is more added to these to make them more worth while in the future. They look pretty great for users who may not have their pain cave setup already sorted with other peripheries, as you said.
Nice! I was so happy to see the camera button has been relocated in the companion app, no need to scroll anymore.
Great video Shane. I wish they were available in Australia 😢
They kind of are… we just have to take a long haul flight to two to get them. 😂
Yes very disappointed I can’t purchase in New Zealand???
Been supporting Zwift for 8years and they can’t ship to New Zealand or Australia? Come on Zwift get with it!!!
Agreed. Tossing up if I use my forwarding address for them. But that will erase most of the "intro pricing"
@@phillipminers9799did you end up ordering them ?
Microsoft and Sony need to come out with these to play their consoles and I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
As a Microsoft employee working in gaming and avid Zwifter, I agree!
Yeah get it in PS5 I would love that for sure!!!! I use Apple TV but I could get better graphics……
PSVR2! :)
no hindering to get a velodrom now on Zwift. where you can make your velodrom as you like it. banking length and where the finishline is
It looks good, but I’m not happy that they have not implemented the same turn at intersection feature for the kickr bike that’s been out for a few years.
Its a takeover
It's a pity, but I presume there's no way for the arrow keys to control the drone view camera angle, since in free ride the up key is already assigned to opening the action bar, yes?
Will for sure grab these. if your TV has HDMI-CEC(most decent tv's probably do) you should be able to use your tv remote with the Apple TV, works fine with my LG tv remote also a 6 year old sony tv
This will be great for getting 10 year olds into Zwift. For the way I use Zwift there is no need for this but I am sure others will like it. Price looks expensive to me.
I bought a pair today. I use Apple TV, and have been using the remote on my phone for Zwift, but I never use it while riding because the phone stops responding when the screen gets wet, and I can't see a damn thing without my reading glasses. For $99, this seems worth it to me.
Not sure how you got on with these but the gap between levers and controller is tiny. It will take a while to remember which is brake and turn as I seem to brake accidentally. Also caused 2 events to crash and they keep loosing connection and flashing. Only half a meter from laptop. 😮
Just got my Zwift play controllers and i have to say i’m not entirely sold on them…i find that the orange steering/braking buttons are too close to my gear shifter paddles so i can’t really get my fingers on to the buttons. It could be that i use quite thick bar tape i suppose.
I use them, and there are ups and downs.
Ups: I usually use an iPad, and just being able to control and look behind during a race is great. In workouts, it's also quick to change resistance in ERG mode. Overall, they provide everything you need right at your hands.
Downs: I hope they change the brake function so that you have to brake with both hands to prevent accidental braking during a race. But the biggest downside for me is their placement. I often have my hands on the shifting grip, and you can't grip "hard" or even normally, because then you turn or have an awkward grip.
So I ended up setting "them too low" so that I have my hands free both up and down, and then conversely, I have to move my hands down to turn or press the buttons. That's fine for me, as both ergonomics and game controls are within reach.
so this is why some post-ride Zwift surveys have asked about what bar shape I was using =)
Thats great, im using a android phone in DEX mode and this will make "playing" much easier 🙂
looks like they've found a customer in me - I have a pain cave setup with no extra companion app, a bike that I hook up for the whole winter, but really no room for a keyboard or a laptop table... I really like the execution on these devices, but I wish they both shared a single BLE channel.
I ordered, but BLE connection can be a problem. I have SB20 where booth powermeters have BLE, than mobile with Companion again with BLE to PC. And now this with two BLE`s. Wristwatch with BLE. Will see.😮 Only bike self with ANT+.
Hi, I've also ordered it and own a SB 20, hope it works well. We'll see.
Just ordered, a good addition for my setup in the home office. Been on Zwift now about 4 years, level 43, so not a newbie.
The people who are comparing these to XBox or PS controllers need to realise that Zwift isn't Sony nor Microsoft, so isn't going to sell millions of these, they are never going to be 75 (affix your own currency) or less a pop.
Great new stuff. Thx Shane for the first hands on. How about attaching them to Tacx Neo Bike (I one the older version). Will it fit?
I've the sterzo and some powerup keyboard buttons. But this is the way forward. Been waiting for something like this for 4 years. It feels finally like an upgrade as the wifi connection on the kickr bikes are. Tooo long the only hardware upgrades werent game changing, I feel like this one will.
Hi Shane, really informative video as always. I watch this the first time but Im rewatching as Im going to chuck my Sterzo in the bin as I get 5 dropouts per ride from it. However, Ithere is an area not covered in the video which I hope that you can clarify. In the video, you make menu selections when entering the game using the controllers but youdidnt enter the Nenu when you were actually in game; also your button diagram is not labelled with a Menu button. For the example of an in game bike swap I would really like to know if this can be done from the Play Controllers or will I still have to use my Apple TV remote. It would be great if you could add this test into any future videos that you might be doing on the subject. Keep up the brilliant work.
Curious to know if the Zwift play controllers will work with smart bikes like the Wahoo or stages SB20.
Works great with my BODYTONE SMB1v3
When can we start shooting stuff?
Calm down there America. There's GTA Bike if you need your true-to-life simulation. Zwift is just a game. 😉
Would definitely be interested in these but my one big issue is Bluetooth connections. I have a kickr, kickr headwind, HRM, phone with companion app, headphones/speaker and that maxes me out of connections.
@GPLama - is this a now purchase (whilst discounted) or wait slightly further down the line purchase ? I fell foul of the Sterzo and don't want to find an upgraded product coming shortly. For Apple TV only this will be a godsend
A possible problem that I may have is that I have a towel over my bars might need a bit of more careful placement over the bars and under the controllers.
What happens if you press up, down, left, right A B C then start?
Always can cut towels in shape with scissors if needed. I have towels as wel, even two of them, buttons will be memorized quickly even through towels.
That key combination is the finishing move for Jarvis the bear on Titans Grove. Sh*t gets messy.
"zee" button? I thought you were one of us! 😂 I'm shattered that I can't buy one here in Australia atm. No point paying more for a redirection service at this point. Do you know if they'll have a beta/cheaper period here as well? Thanks Lama.
Please show how they navigate through training plans, ftp adjustment, route selection screen and bike frame colour change. Basically all the things ATV remote sucks at.
Would you advise this to buy in combination with a Wahoo Kickr Bike?
I’m in doubt because, on the kickr bike you have already a couple of buttons, on the shifters, for some shortcuts (like activate a powerup).
Also you can use steering with the kickr bike shifters.
The biggest advantage would be the arrows to access the menu or change course without i need to stretch my arm to touch my IPad.
But is no longer having to stretch my arm worth 99/150 euros…
Anyway this is better then Wahoo’s steering wheel.
Yes, the question for the KICKR bike owners remains what's the plan with the buttons we have now?
Braking. Interesting. Wonder how long until braking comes to the KICKR Bike then.
This seems to be a very useful gadget for Zwift, i immediately ordered, because i don't like to fiddle around on the laptop keyboard or in the companion app while riding, in my opinion the buttons are way to small to use while on a ride...
Time to make a Zwift-co-branded (orange) version of Apple TV with an M2 chip (default UHD) and 5-7 BT connections?
Could bundle it with Zwift Play +/- Zwift Hub
For Apple TV - could / would a NPE Cable / WYÛR not work for combining the signals for this and other devices to get around the 2 BT limit?
This is BLE only, CABLE is ANT+ to BLE.... not sure what the new NPE devices do... but it's unlikely they have a profile/mapping for the Play. Worth asking them I guess.
Zwift needs to do a casual Mario Kart style mode. Let me race others and throw banana peels. This is a great idea
Sprint to avoid the Red Turtle. Aim with steering to fire a green turtle!
I have a Stages SB20 bike, any testing of these with that bike specifically? My shifters on the Stages are right about in that location…
The sprint shifters on the lower drops on the SB20 need to be moved. This can be done so the Play can be installed where indented.
Have you been using these over the past 2 months? If so, how are they holding up? Are they useful? Do they get in the way? Will you do a follow-up video?
glad to see you've made it through the Trademark battle. Keep up the good work.
Just got my controllers today. I found that the buttons on it a bit stiff, this is prob to make them waterproof. Not for everyone altough i dont mind.
I’m happy to be able to steer with the Kickr climb.
Great video.... super informative. I've bought a set of these for my wife and myself.... after a couple of rides, I'm a fan. A question.... where did I miss that fantastic Play mapping graphic? I'd love to have that for both our Zwift stations. Thanks.
The more “stuff” you hook up to your bike for turbo use, the less easy it is to quickly switch a bike between indoor and outdoor use - if you had these and a Kickr climb for instance, you might as well just buy a dedicated all-in-one solution such as wattbike. Seems really odd of Zwift to abandon their all-in-one Zwift bike given that they’ve now released the hub and now these shifters.
Switching bikes is way too much of a pain. We went out and bought a couple of old used bikes for our permanent Zwift setups, after just a couple months.
How many cyclists have just one bike?
Or maybe Zwift will bring back their bike now that they have the hardware to make it happen?
@@ZwiftInsider I honestly wish they'd just focus on software. The main product is still pretty weak, and I'm confused why it doesn't seem to be their primary focus.
@@mitchleblanc weak compared to what? and weak in what way? IMO it is the best cycling app on the market already...
Darn you & Ray, my credit card hates my lack of restraint! 😂
Love the vids
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@@gplama Hahahaha! Kinda surprised it’s arriving tomorrow. Looking forward to testing it out.
Do these work with other cycling apps like RGT as well (for steering at least)? Otherwise you might be better of buying one of the universal ones so you are less locked in.
Nobody even rides RGT it’s a waste of time
@@occyman not really the point. Vendor lock-ins never concern anybody until it’s to late. We need open standards as consumers
Really would have liked a camera toggle so that I could look around
Zwift getting more into the hardware game. I expect, like their trainer, this will not be available in Canada in the foreseeable future. The way Zwift is differentiating I imagine I will be moving away from that platform soon to something else but I’ll admit I’ve struggled to find anything that works so reliably.
Cool for the road riders I’ll stick with my Sterzo so Shane can you confirm Repack Ridge has been removed from Zwift??????
Yep. The MTB single track of Repack Ridge is gone... 😕
Not a bad idea especially if you’re someone who has to wrestle with the awful Apple TV remote… but then again they’ve made things worse by having these things take up 2 extra bluetooth channels 🤦♂️ I can’t help thinking that maybe these could have included a bluetooth hub and made everyone’s life easier
I'd have liked to see them on WiFi. It works very well for Direct Connect supported trainers. I suspect WiFi would require more battery capacity.
I have a Wahoo Kickr Bike, which has steering. It sounds like these buttons might work better on Repack. I found it almost unrideable and very annoying trying to line myself up for the bonuses. It was entertaining for a single try, but I doubt I'll try it again.
I finally got around to buying a sterzo smart this week, oh well.
great idea, reaching for the mouse/keyboard is annoying for sure, i often have to get off the bike if i don't have a reachable setup for desktop.
Would like to understand what happen if I use with another steering device like Elite Rizer...
Ordered, eager to try these out with the Stages SB20.
On SB20 brake levers can cross these on movement. Now I will use these from Play.
Really nice 🙂 but normally I have a towel on my handlebar.... I might have to consider alternatives 😉
What are your thoughts on getting bicycling sponsors via Strava? What wattage range should I be outputting? How many miles or elevation goals should I be meeting? End goal: Tour De France.
Bought a set. Can't wait to test them out. Thanks Shane!
I've tried it today. I'm not happy with the paddles. I'd prefer the one on the left for just steering and the right one for braking (or vice versa). Also, I find the distance between the paddles and the small STI levers too small. Sprinting/climbing in the hoods position needs some getting used to because you can't grip with all fingers anymore. And I wish the buttons/paddles could be mapped (but that should be easy to implement in an update).
Can you still use them with a towel covering them? Or do the buttons not respond
Sure, you just can't see which button you're pressing. :)
They look great. Will they obstruct the gear changing buttons on a Stages SB20 bike?
You'll need to relocate the sprint shifters on the SB20, then it'll be fine.
@@gplama Thank you 👍🏻
Nice video. Sprinting and out of the saddle on the hoods have enough room to really grab the bars and not hit buttons, or bit of a hand size, bike setup specific answer?
Any word on when they'll be available in Australia.
No word yet…. Soon I hope.
I wonder if these will fit a Wattbike Atom without blocking the gear shifters..?
Would love to see you review the Avotro controller (esp as i think they ship from Australia?) :) at a similar price of $150 AUD, it's a fully functional general purpose bike handlebar game controller - but it's very low on reviews at the moment (see: 0) - If you're able to find out if it's any good, would be happy to purchase through an affiliate link :)
Fantastic, cheers, ordered 👍🏻👊🏻🎮
I'm assuming but the time Australians get access it will be well and truly out of the cheaper Beta period?
One for Zwift to answer. No idea to be honest.
Thank you very much for this information, any idea when they may be available down under?
Does anyone have any idea if the Stages SB20 steering buttons are ever gonna be able to be used on Zwift?
No details on either sorry. I hope they'll sell Play globally when it comes out of 'beta'.
@@gplama Thank you for your reply.
I hope it’s warm in your part of OZ, it’s very cool morning in Taupo (NZ)
Can they be adapted to work with a TT bike / aero bars? As you said, they were meant for drops.
Maybe with some 3D printed vertical clip-on elements? 🤓
that was my thinking - i can't imagine you couldn't rig up something to work but without actually seeing them more clearly it's hard to work out
@@davidmanleywales I ordered them. Will have a closer look next week.
@@rainbowlable look forward to the report
This wil be on my list to get for the next autum and winter training
It'll cost $50 more by then!
@@paceline don`t care.
ive got the elite steerer i dont see whats wrong with turning the handle bars
When will it be available for order for Australia ?
How many bluetooth connections are possible on the iPad (I would need 5 connections for my setup if using these contollers for example)?
It’s a real shame that there isn’t a clear guide to the limits and pathway to connecting/bridging multiple devices via Bluetooth.
Like a couple of other posts, I found myself maxd with a Kickr, Tickr, headwind and cadence meter. Having rushed to buy this great looking add on, I have found it terribly frustrating to connect the Play without messing up all my previously seem less setup 😢
Hmm, not sure about this.. I'd be happy to see Coffee Stop fixed in group events! It was working great then 1.41 broke it for group rides. EDIT: OK the more I checked out the Zwift Play toy the more I liked it. It has been ordered.
Do you know if it is possible to have it sent to Australia? I can’t seem to get Australia to show up as a shipping option
Not via their official channels at this point.
I'll take these over my Apple TV remote any day.
How's the lag if you pair these through your phone since that's the only way to use them with Zwift on Apple TV?
3:01 in the video shows I had these paired via the Companion App for this video. No notable lag/delays. This does depend on the speed/quality of the WiFi network used.
any idea on campagnolo mechanical thumb shifters? would that be in the way you reckon?
Unlikely to work. Time to upgrade to the new 12spd wireless Campy that dropped the thumb shifter! :)
Great video, and you answer most of the questions I had left in the description :) except: how long do they take to charge so a useable level?
Shame Australia is never included in these deals
Looks really good but am wondering how well the silicone straps will last if switching between multiple bikes; wife and I both use the trainer so would need to transfer between each use🤔
They are very strong. But i need to get 2 type c chargers right next to my bike instead of unstrappin it every time for charge.
Shane - any idea when these will be available in Aus?
No word on this yet.
Just ordered them
I see the usual approach for UK pricing, just erase the $ sign and replace it with a £ sign. This makes them more expensive in the UK than they are in the US or EU. On current exchange rates $99 or €99 should be around £80.
I use mobile phone on the bars to select functions in game but these devices seem to do more but at a price.
I also use mobile (Companion) between the bars, but I need to cover it against the sweat otherwise sweat drops start to play their own game on mobile screen.😄
You get adjusted because of VAT. US prices are without tax.
Always have to add all the crazy taxes to the US prices, soon levels things up
when you take into account us prcies don't include tax and vat is higher then usa tax it makes sense that it cost more then just stright currency conversion.
At least you live in one of the few countries Zwift delivers. Here in Australia, like in many other countries, you can't buy items from the Zwift shop. Guess we will wait for some 3rd party knock off.