I have to go back a couple of years and listen to your Alessi play, which remains the high water memory. This sounded to my ear as if you had to work harder than I remember. Going for a memory update listen now. Okay... I'm sticking with the Alessi as far as how you sound on it. To be fair, different building and different excerpts, but the sound on the Alessi was so free and effortless sounding. I also listened to the Steiner 47 and a couple of others (I need to find you on a large bore Greenhoe). It would be easier for a fogey like me if you had one or two compulsory excerpts for comparison. In any case, great sounding horn. You get all the best toys.
You sound great on it! I'll admit that heavier weight tenors are not really my cup of tea, but I do acknowledge the other side of the coin in the amount of tonal stability they offer.
Testing it now. Weight: heavy, same as my 88HSGXCL. Perfectly balanced at the hand position, so the weight is not an issue. Blow: extremely even, mostly undetectable feel difference going in and out of the trigger. Haven’t been to rehearsal yet, but heft of its beautiful sound should easily pass through 6” of stainless steel at p at 100 yards. It is a very powerful horn. There is no possibility of ever over blowing this instrument! And yet it is as nimble as my Gilkes model. I’ve never played another horn with the total dynamic range the TBDR has! Yes I’m impressed. My first blow immediately brought to mind the Vienna, Philharmonic on TH-cam, playing the Imperial March, Vader’s theme , by John Williams with John Williams conducting. That is what I mean by Heft! It is a superb musical instrument!
It certainly has a European type of weight, both in physical weight and sound/response; my first thought when I played it was “what a German/Teutonic timbre…”
I tried this model last time I was in. It is a great horn. Not for me though, it is a bit heavier than my setup. I would like to try this valve and tuning slide with the rest of my set up sometime though.
When I chose my parts, I was looking for something so that I could sit in the back row of an orchestra and project through the group without having to expend a ton of energy to do so as I've had some strain-related medical issues in the past. Because of that, I ended up with something lighter, but this is the tuning slide I have because it added so much stability to attacks. When I tried the same parts but with a yellow brass seamless tuning slide, I lost a lot of control. My combination ended up with the Vintage Elkhart bell, dual bore valve section, TW47 slide, and TDXS tuning slide. (I chose the dual bore valve instead of the axial flow because I wanted the low register to sound like a tenor trombone; when I play on a Thayer-alike, it sounds like a bass trombone to my ear and that kind of defeats the purpose to me.)
Really enjoy your analyze of new instrument and mouthpiece designs
Sounds REALLY bright.
I've been waiting for a review on this! Sounds awesome. Thank you, Keith!
A very nice job! The horn sounds rich and full with a beautiful tone color.
Thank you very much!
I have to go back a couple of years and listen to your Alessi play, which remains the high water memory. This sounded to my ear as if you had to work harder than I remember. Going for a memory update listen now. Okay... I'm sticking with the Alessi as far as how you sound on it. To be fair, different building and different excerpts, but the sound on the Alessi was so free and effortless sounding. I also listened to the Steiner 47 and a couple of others (I need to find you on a large bore Greenhoe). It would be easier for a fogey like me if you had one or two compulsory excerpts for comparison. In any case, great sounding horn. You get all the best toys.
I agree that the alessi is one of the bettrr horns I have heard him play on. I also like the greenhor ST model a lot.
You sound great on it! I'll admit that heavier weight tenors are not really my cup of tea, but I do acknowledge the other side of the coin in the amount of tonal stability they offer.
Testing it now. Weight: heavy, same as my 88HSGXCL. Perfectly balanced at the hand position, so the weight is not an issue. Blow: extremely even, mostly undetectable feel difference going in and out of the trigger. Haven’t been to rehearsal yet, but heft of its beautiful sound should easily pass through 6” of stainless steel at p at 100 yards. It is a very powerful horn. There is no possibility of ever over blowing this instrument! And yet it is as nimble as my Gilkes model. I’ve never played another horn with the total dynamic range the TBDR has! Yes I’m impressed. My first blow immediately brought to mind the Vienna, Philharmonic on TH-cam, playing the Imperial March, Vader’s theme , by John Williams with John Williams conducting. That is what I mean by Heft! It is a superb musical instrument!
You guys should do a trombone brand comparison. Bach, shires, conn etc
How would you compare this to the bach 42b?
Is it a heavy, high-mass sound? It sounds like Europe. I am Thein user.
It certainly has a European type of weight, both in physical weight and sound/response; my first thought when I played it was “what a German/Teutonic timbre…”
I tried this model last time I was in. It is a great horn. Not for me though, it is a bit heavier than my setup. I would like to try this valve and tuning slide with the rest of my set up sometime though.
When I chose my parts, I was looking for something so that I could sit in the back row of an orchestra and project through the group without having to expend a ton of energy to do so as I've had some strain-related medical issues in the past. Because of that, I ended up with something lighter, but this is the tuning slide I have because it added so much stability to attacks. When I tried the same parts but with a yellow brass seamless tuning slide, I lost a lot of control.
My combination ended up with the Vintage Elkhart bell, dual bore valve section, TW47 slide, and TDXS tuning slide. (I chose the dual bore valve instead of the axial flow because I wanted the low register to sound like a tenor trombone; when I play on a Thayer-alike, it sounds like a bass trombone to my ear and that kind of defeats the purpose to me.)
What's old is gradually becoming new again.
Not me. Not my chops either.