Or who you meet. Successful artists don't represent themselves but are being advised, supported and represented by excellent galleries. When there is a match, and the market and art world are enthousiast, great things can happen for an artist.
@@contemporaryartissueThank you for telling me that. Actually I'm an artist too, perhaps I should keep creating artworks and leave my comfort zone to meet great people.
Perhaps that would be a more appropriate title for this video. Art can be a volatile subject, pretentious ambitions abound and we the viewers must be aware and savvy for we are swimming in a sea of charlatans and publicity agents.
Aren't Damien Hirst and Banksy even more famous and successful when it comes to selling art? I am wondering why they even didn't show up on this list...
Regardless of how "important" or "groundbreaking" any of this art is, there isn't a single painting out of everything I just saw that I would want hanging on my wall.
It's not about pretty and well-proportioned, it's more to do with your ability to convince someone that it actually relates to something conceptual and is therefore worth obscene amounts of money.
@@newfineartit’s about BS-ing a millionaire to buy a piece of garbage from an art gallery. “Did you here what’s his face multi billionaire bought X for Y$”. That’s it.
@@thatrandomchannel8589 The artist in question has to be on to something that is unique and also that the value of their work is on an upward trajectory.
I was surprised to see so few artists whose work I was familiar with, let alone had heard of, in this list of supposedly famous artists. And puzzled as to why so many of them were either German or Austrian, male and born in the '40s. It did make me wonder how their influence has been measured.
Hi there, thank you for watching and for joining us in the comments. The list has been created by the Artfacts algorithm which ranks artists based upon objective data and career facts (such as shows at major institutions, auction results, biennials, collections, et cetera). Indeed, the algorithm favors a certain generation of artists as it highly rates longevity.
@@amberdreams_0 I agree with you 100%. When it comes to painting, the 'oldest' living painters are born around 1935-1945 had their peak in the 70s and 80s. At this point in time, the most important tendencies were Neo Expressionism (Neue Wilden & Viennese Actionism) and New European Painting reinvigorating the public's interest in painting and figurative painting after a period of pure abstraction, minimalism and conceptual art. That makes these painters so valuable and therefore the most exhibited or 'most famous'.
@@contemporaryartissue interesting ... a suggestion .. is there a way to find out the relative worth of artists born to different decades .. you could make a top 10 of those born in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's etc.. that too might bring up a more varied list and show a shift towards more women and non-white painters .
Thanks to everyone who named their favorites who did not make this list. It helped me to create a list of artists to check out. Thank you for producing this video.
And well-done for including a grand total of two female artists in this overwhelmingly patriarchal list of supposed "most famous" artists. Truly groundbreaking stuff.
@@hughjass6646 Most of the famous artists and ones at the top of the list are men though, so it's factually accurate. It doesn't mean they don't appreciate art by women. Relax buddy.
@@orphansparrow2 I am an artist and my favorite artist is vincent van gogh but when someone paints a canvas in one color like a wall that's not art.jackson pollack painted some interesting pixtures
So..as to what is considered great art..I should skew my realism like most of these artists do...the weirder, the more attractive apparently... I've been working too hard.
@@Powitree1 Realism doesn't sell as well because you aren't doing anything new. You're not bringing anything to the table that we haven't seen for hundreds of years now. It's skillful but it's tired
From the drawings, I concluded I was one of the best artist when I was in grade 2. Now I lost all that nonsense drawings. I wish I have saved all my drawings.
Artists just aren’t the same as they used to be, like da Vinci, Picasso, and Van Gogh. These guys were geniuses. The art I saw in Paris was unmatched. That’s the kind of art that fascinates me.
I was also not particularly impressed by the art of the artists from this selection. I recognized only Richter. But not all modern artists do something superficial. I advise you to search for Ivan Marchuk on Google
Contemporary art is the house style sanctioned by governments. Gnomic to the point of being meaningless, too incomprehensible to offend anyone, revolutionary in only the most sterile and harmless of ways, the works are essentially tokens used in elaborate tax scams. The effect any exhibition produces is a kind of weary dismay, which always elicits the question no one apparently dares ask: 'Is this it? Is this the best we can do?'
The actual evidence is, and not necessarily here, that artistic talent is unlimited. There's plenty of good and sometimes excellent art and music to look at and listen to.
Never a more true comment than this. The world art market is run by controlling elite fraudsters.You said it all, geoffrey warburton. The scam is deep and dark.
And I tried to keep an open mind on Hockney. Then became more familiar with his work, and now I feel confident in saying that all of it is overrated, and none of it is actually good.
The different phases of painting, going back to the Renaissance, inspires me to paint as I feel. It may, or may not invoke reaction, nevertheless, I appreciate painters from the past. Expressing themselves. Contemporary painters approach and exert their expression from inspiration that seemingly is social and cultural abstract. This is how they are economically successful. Do they evoke a true feeling?
I believe they do. For instance a Mark Rothko, cultural abstract at its best and has an emotional impact as direct as hearing music. Thank you for tuning in
Well.. not really! This is just a *piece* of the art world! A market created by rich people to pass money around and keep around only "prestigious" artists around... or who will become one. Galleries manage their prices to a point that'd be illegal in most industries... everything else about it, is just a bluff! Look around the world, and people, to make a living and art in much healthier communities who just respect each other's work...
Marlene Dumas's works are great, reminds me of Toprak Bek's paintings, he mostly work on Modern Art and Child Figures in his own style, about topics of inner journey through existence. I've seen his Missing Child Murders exhibition a few years ago and it was amazing. Another promising artist, I believe he will do well in the future like Marlene Dumas.
Why? Although the United States tried to seize the primacy in contemporary art, it is in Europe where the tradition is, and these "old white men from Germany", despite what they do, are heirs to a true Academy. While taking into account that, apart from the American mercantilist system, it is Germany who has created the "rules of the game" of contemporary art.
There are many others that are of other ethnicities that are more recognized for their artististry than many on this list. I can think of at least two from Asia, several in the US, and Africa.
True, this is so much of the same old stuff. Trying to be as artsy, vague and “provoking” as possible, aka getting away with as little effort as possible, thinking of some vague reasoning and making the sheit for tax evaders. The results are absolute tragically shit in my opinion. The emperor is wearing no clothes. Old hobbyists prolific in filling canvasses.
@@davidbloem8122 "tragically shit" made me laugh. It's funny how much people hate contemporary art. Here, though, I think a lot of it is the presentation as well as the selection. Kiefer and Richter have done some great stuff, but, their fame has gotten to their heads and their more recent work has softened, and that's what we are seeing here.
As a Gerhard Richter fan I was glad to see him listed as #1. As a woman who has done doctoral research on the struggles women artists have always had navigating their way through the male gatekeepers of the art world, I was shocked at the ugly and tasteless art works that depicted the "top mostly male artists" in this study. Two out of twenty: it seems not much has changed over the centuries for women artists.
The list has been created by an algorithm (by Artfacts) that ranks artists based upon objective data and career facts (such as shows at major institutions, auction results, biennials, collections, et cetera). In other words, the list does not discriminate, however, it illustrates the art world still does - or certainly when it comes to this 'older generation of artists' with great longevity which is valued strongly for this list. However, I am convinced the list will be much more diverse within 10 or 20 years. For instance, our video on the top artists born after 1970 was much more diverse, using the same algorithm. Thank you for tuning in
@@matthewgardner5983 The overcrowded art 'industry' has many such people. Their work is never good and they find scapegoats. For this one it is men. Nobody is holding women back at all. It's just an excuse for not being very good.
@@arthurw1604 There are really great women artists. There are women in my 'top ten' or whatever. The issue I have is with people like the women who commented above, who like to drive divisiveness and drama ( I have a BFA in Painting). One random video on TH-cam doesn't define the 'art world.
But yes I agree. People are able to find in such specific detail what touches their heart, that it seems to be different people to be great for every person. A wonderful thing in my opinion.
I think the idea of fame has changed since the time of Picasso and Dali. To be famous is such a quick thing these days. One day you’re a hit, the next you could be a nobody. The world of art isn’t an exception. A quick rise or buzz is worth more these days then to be a constant ‘decent’. I don’t know, that’s just my idea on it.
Great point! I was very surprised - and yet at the same time it is somewhat self-explanatory - to find so many artists from the three major political powers of the previous century: Germany, Great Britain and the United States. How power, politics and art are intertwined...
I can think of almost no good reason for this video other than to give me a list of contemporary artists I might use to try to impress people who might be impressed by that sort of thing.
Watch the updated version of the top 20 most influential painters today here: th-cam.com/video/C-r1hFZyqY4/w-d-xo.html Let's discuss the main topics of consternation in the comments section from our previous video. 1) Lack of diversity: The list has been created by an algorithm (by Artfacts) that ranks artists based on objective data and career facts (such as shows at major institutions, auction results, biennials, collections, et cetera). In other words, the list does not discriminate; however, it illustrates the art world still does (please, don't shoot the messenger!)-or certainly when it comes to this 'older generation of artists with great longevity, which is valued strongly for this list. This tendency is shifting for the better, with our lists analyzing younger generations being much more diverse. Further, a surprising conclusion is the lack of diversity is at its strongest in this particular medium; painting. Performance is dominated by female artists, and other media, such as installation, photography, and video, have much more diversity. 2) Using an algorithm to select the top 20 painters today: The algorithm is able to provide a selection of the most prominent artists today. However, these top results still need to be interpreted with a critical pair of eyes and mind. The main reason why we adore using the Artfacts algorithm is that it enables us to approach fame/popularity/pertinence objectively. Otherwise, depending on the person who creates the list, it would be entirely different. If I made them, I would be imposing my personal opinion on you, which I don't feel comfortable with. Instead, with this algorithm, we can create these rankings in a very coherent and consistent manner. It crawls all artists in the world, so every artist is considered, and it can often show a discrepancy between our perception of the fame of a specific artist versus reality. Discover the algorithm here: artfacts.net/register?ref=596b983667cd4ef3ecd9afcb78629b0da0baa51e 3) Why are there so many Americans and Germans?: As with the lack of diversity, this results from the value the algorithm addresses to longevity-which is beneficial for the artists who were born in the 1930s and 1940s. And during that age, America and Germany provided some ground-breaking art and movements, which is reflected in these results. 4) Where is Banksy?: He might be very famous-particularly among people who aren't really into art, but the one artist they know will be Banksy-but when it comes to retrospectives, major art events, and even collections, he does not match up with these 20 artists. It is interesting to see how our perception of fame is often incorrect when one analyzes their actual pertinence in the art world. 5) Where is Jenny Saville, Luc Tuymans, Peter Doig, Tracey Emin, Julian Schnabel, Neo Rauch, ...: Sadly, the list consists of just 20 artists. And some of my personal favorite painters are not included. As a result, I invite you to write down your top 5/10/20 in the comments below. Looking forward to it!
These artists are famous and successful ONLY BECAUSE the “Art Establishments” i.e. the “Art Industrial Complex” tells us so; for example: Art critics, art gallery owners, art gallery reception desk worker pretending they’re doing something important on their latest Mac, art school professors, brainwashed art school students wasting their parents money, art museum curators, art auctioneers, self-important over-priced Art magazines, popular culture news/media/gossip presenters, actors, con-artists, cult leaders, liars, adulterers, pop singers, fashion models, charismatic preachers wearing skinny jeans, satan, the NY times, politicians and other “contemporary artists”. Oh, and especially Jeff Koons.
It's sad, cause there are real artist out there that you can't compare to these. They are really creators, pure artists. But they are so absorbed into their work, that they don't have time to sell theslmelves as Dali did, or these once are doing, they don't express nor create anything.
And yet, interestingly, I haven't seen a single painting from any of these artists, worthy of hanging on my wall. I suppose, in the end, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I find it very interesting but also very understandable that Contemporary art seems to move between the explosive and the very minimalistisk searching for some calm and maybe even beauty. But all art must be Rosted in experience - and human experiences truly limitless - andso is Contemporary art 😊
Dear Lis Engel, thank you for putting this to words so beautifully and accurately. I agree, the Appolonian versus Dionysian forces are as ubiquitous as ever.
@@notnek202 The 19th century academics all painted the same things in exactly the same way. So I am most grateful for the arrival of Modern Art at the end of the same century, and the copernican revolution in art at the start at the following century.
@@contemporaryartissue no they didn’t see even you don’t know. For that matter you could say the same thing about 20th & 21st cen painters. Today just throw some paint on the canvas, something any child could do, then you need a so called art snob to tell you what it’s all about. Art is now more for the elites even more so then in the 19th cen. In the 19th century at the Paris Salon millions of people of all classes flocked to that great art exhibition. In this day and age only the educated elites with money attend such events. Art of the 20th & 22st cen really about ugly and lowest common Denominator. In the past art was about beauty and lifting you up not bringing you down. Modern art was based in one thing & one thing only money. You don’t need talent just be able to produce it fast enough to turn a profit for the dealers. Modern & contemporary is about one & one thing a only 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
A nice little compendium that unwittingly demonstrates the slight, shallow soullessness of contemporary art in a thoroughly convincing manner. I am sold. It is shit.
@@xpez9694 Try not to throw around the Hitler insults which I'm sure you use often because you are an overly sensitive cry baby. Modern art of today is a scar on the face of real true art. When janitors toss modern art " exhibits " in the dumpster because they mistook that crap for actual trash you have to wonder. That's funny too!! LOL
@@xpez9694 I would say true art would last the test of time like so many works in the Louvre or other renowned galleries. True art is the result of a knowledgeable and skillful artist devoted to their craft. Art that elevates and lifts the soul, inspires and exhibits beauty. Painting, sculptures, music, dance and more can be true art. Poetry another example. Done from the heart and mind using skills and thought.
Interesting - and nice to see. Thank you. The exclusion of some other living artists such as Banksy (who is currently, if arguably, more famous than anyone on this list) - and Yayoi Kusama (the most highly sold, quite likely known, and wealthy female artist at the moment) - as well as a few others - is a but telling of a number of things - but list are lists - and who in the end has ever got anything right - especially with something as subjective as art.
With Banksy, the perception of fame and the reality in the art world are two differen things - especially how fame is measured with this algorithm, valueing museum retrospectives over Instagram followers for instance. The case for Kusama, which also would apply Hirst for instance, is that she isn't 'a painter' per se, although she paint, she is more a multidisciplinary artist
Interesting with a presentation like this even if it seemed a little hectic in the presentation of the 10 artists. I did not know all the artists, but I know Georg Baselitz, Gerhard Richter, David Hockney, Jasper John, Anselm Kiefer and Frank Stella, but I discovered some artists that I did not know e.g. I really liked the mystical landscapes of Ikemura and the abstract expression of beauty and freedom of Albert Oehlen and I also found Heino Zobernig interesting and the hazed beauty of the photo paintings of Gerhard Richter. - thank you for the presentation
@@contemporaryartissue I'd agree, it was dreadful. Why have music at all, especially when there are no long gaps in the narration? Oh and the closed captions were very faded into the background for some reason, which made them difficult to read, so there was no option but have the sound on.
The question of who became influential in Art was really interesting to me growing up as an artist, and I observed that those who became famous are people who have a strong practice AND who have strong connections. Both the two are necessary to make it. More often than not, in addiction, males are more predominant than female artists, and masculine way of making art seen as more significant than practices that express more soft and feminine qualities. Another aspect I noticed is how involved is the artist in his/her craft. I have my own list of who is great and why for me, and I let others have other opinions as well. 🕉☮
Honestly as a normal person I have no idea who these people are. I really don`t think this stuff is what the normal person wants. I think this appeals more to some snobby intellectuals somewhere that I can`t fully know. As for their art judging by the video I`m actually positively surprised. Their art is not as horrible as I thought. Some of it is garbage obviously but there were some pieces that were ok. Can`t say I`d be dying to have them but they were ok.
@@beckbabej I`m from Eastern Europe so we don`t have Cardi B or Walmart here and there is McDonald`s only in a few big cities and mostly tourists eat there because.... well idk why but they do. That being said this stuff is literally of the same value as those things it`s a bunch of ugly stuff maybe slightly less ugly than I imagined that is bought for tons of money by a bunch of rich snobs so they pretend to look intelligent. We don`t really see great art like the one before WW1 or beautiful architecture or high literature or good music and movies. I`m an engineer and I work in the construction industry and the biggest enemy to architecture are architects. What is considered great architecture today is just shocking kind like porn but it`s not beautiful.
@@cowboybeboop9420 I totally agree with you that much of what's in this video isn't equal to the great masters and some of it is garbage. Some is masterful though, and like the works of Jackson Pollock, many people say it's just thrown paint, but the composition and the color is carefully thought out. In architecture it's easier to see that classic beauty standards are better than shiny boxes. Frank Lloyd Wright who you sort of quoted, refused accolades from "big architecture" of the time as they were making everything ugly. As an American, I must say your standards are well above what is "normal" here. It's interesting that you equate the bad but expensive art to porn, because many rich people are quite perverted in many ways here. The disgusting "art" of Marina Abramovic is a perfect example of your point. Some people say if art evokes a feeling (even nausea?) then it is successful. Empirically, some part of everyone knows that it's ugly. I think I misunderstood your original comment to mean that if the masses didn't appreciate art then it was garbage. I realize now that's not what you meant.
I think this list meets the mandate: The most famous painters ALIVE TODAY - as calculated y an algorithm using measurable career facts. It would be interesting to see the measures the algorithm uses. I would imagine it would include: Solo Exhibitions in major galleries with weighted scores for the galleries, cumulative values on auction sales, number of works held by major collections, current price trends, number of academic articles about the artist in peer-reviewed journals, mentions in traditional, social and web media etc. These will be weighted, so there will be some bias, but there will also be consistency. Interesting that the value of sales is not dominant, otherwise Jeff Koontz would be right up there. I think that is right. Nice job. Good to see Kentridge up at number four.
Hi Shaun, thank you for tuning in and for your excellent analysis in your comment. You are right when it comes to the algorithm as it measures not only the number of solo and group exhibitions, but also the quality of the shows in relation to the galleries or institutions in question. Also, price trends, auction results, public and private collections, participations in fairs or at major art events. Concerning Koons, we have included him in our video on the top 20 sculptors in the world.
An interesting watch. I was very pleased to see Sean Scully in the list, whose body of work over the course of his career is utterly extraordinary. Marlene Dumas and Alex Katz are two other personal favorites that I was happy to see make the cut, but I am surprised not to have seen more female artists - I would have thought Bridget Riley and Julie Mehretu could warrant being included?
Hi there, thank you for tuning in and for joining us in the comments. Yes, I was also surprised only to find Dumas and Ikemura. Riley and Mehretu are indeed very deserving of a place in this list. Also, Yayoi Kusama is in my opinion one of the greatest absentees too.
Thank you for this list, it was a pleasure seeing all of these big painters together. I would love to see a similar list for drawing, but also for sculpture and installations. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for tuning in and for the appreciative words! Great suggestion, we are certainly planning to encompass every medium, presenting only the best of the best artists. So stay tuned!
I agree with the poater, "how you market your paintings" I like Hockney and a few others on this video, however, if I compare my work with many of these artis, I must be a genius!!
I am repelled by the majority of this work with the exception of Hockney.I've always liked his work.The message conveyed is that artists must drug themselves, contort their bodies, blindfold themselves,Be male, bald or have white hair,be German, perform disgusting "rituals",use saws and humungous paintbrushes, etc,,and the result will be "ART".
I guess the Artfacts algorithm was programed to find the painters with the best skills to sell their art. Otherwise I doubt these painters stand out in any way from all other abstract and modern artists today.
Its a nice list but I feel like you've taken mostly the old white male guard, I would have included, Stanley Whitney, Maria Lassnig, Chris Ofili, Mary Heilman and Dana Schutz to name a few.
Great suggestions one by one, terrific painters. When it comes to the selection, he list is based upon objective career data crawled by an algorithm. It is clear to say the algorithm values longevity strongly, which can be a bit problematic too. However, it was and is the ideal way to create these lists in the most objective manner I believe
I disagree. Algorithms are written predominantly by white men. Therefore algorithms are built to be racist, sexist, and biased in favor of a white man's perspective. Algorithms do not have a mind of their own, their decision-making logic is written by and decided on by the VALUES of a person or a small group of people. In the case of technology, 9/10 are white men. Technology, much like art, unfortunately suffers from a lot of racist and sexist gatekeeping.@@contemporaryartissue
For all the critics here: do NOT forget, that theses dudes stated with GREAT paintngs (like Picasso too). When o l d and established, they can SMEER what they WANT ! Thats their reward. So you have to judge the WHOLE work of every artist . . . and not only the most recent one . . .
Hi there, thank you for watching and for your joining the discussion in the comments. I agree 100%! Also Tuymans and Kusama are missing in my humble opinion
Probably mentioned elsewhere but David Hockney lives and works in Northern France now. Informative film - many thanks. I saw some of Katz’s work in the Guggenheim recently - fabulous
Gratified to notice, no matter what shows I attend, that no living artist that I have, so far, encountered is doing anything close to what I do! Quite a relief, lol!
Exactly. The critics, most of whom can't paint, elevate certain artists. Freud and, dare l say, Jenny Saville, are far greater painters in my humble opinion, than the majority of this lot. As Sibelius said, there's never been a statue erected to a critic.
I disagree, Hockney paints from photographs and also paints trees, in a large format. It's no big deal. In fact all the artist's in this video, are mediocre. And the narrative is a lot of............................
The more rubbishy the artwork, the more intellectual+creative+fantastic the artist. Phooey! Alexander Averin and Vincente Romero Redondo are still my fav painters!
Thank you, watching this top 20 I found myself saying I may actually be interested in maybe two of the artist mentioned works and could respect maybe three more the rest are dust bin for me. I looked up your two and vastly prefer them. Thank you for introducing me to them.
Your choice of Gerhard Richter as your number one artist was a good choice as there are so so many great artists. His longevity and creativity speaks alot to me. Thanks
Richter was never more than a 2nd tier artist...at best. Now the most successful contemporary artist producing some of the shittiest work of his entire career.
Interesting how they explain the painting style.. This shows how everyone can become a successful painter without certain talent... Only the daring of doing something and not being afraid to get paid for what you do.
The problem with most of this art work is that it can only be displayed in some giant Mac mansion compound of the lobby of a building with 30 feet walls.
Thank you for tuning in and for sharing your interesting thoughts. Many of these artworks are indeed monumental in seize. However, almost every artist takes on different sizes too I believe
@@contemporaryartissue I love the comment and the answer, both in the twilight zone. My favourite one is in the list : Katz, but I admit that Ross had more hair.
Interesting watch. There are sooo many of us well diversified and living artists that will never get their props. Big ups to you and US for the true passion that we keep displaying. Don’t stop! As a woman artist, I have to add I am glad a woman made the cut. 🤗
I think it is a great omission not to have included Frank Auerbach, not only because his extraordinary painting, but also he was part of a type of painters who transformed pictorial materiality in relation to figurative representation, such as Lucian Freud, Leon Kossof, Eugene Leroy... today you can see their heritage in artist like Allison Schulnik and others... In short, the "natural" insensitivity of the algorithm...
Thank you Eduardo for watching and for adding this great point to your discussion. In fact, Auerbach was sitting in spot 26 when we crawled the algorithm. I agree when it comes to the insensitivity of the algorithm. It's a bit 'too ruthless' for sure!
This list seems like it would be more accurately titled "The Most Famous Painters Today If You're Over 60." If you're younger Damien Hirst, Jeff Koons, Takashi Murakami, Yayoi Kusama, Ai Weiwei, Banksy, KAWS, Cecily Brown, Peter Doig, Yoshitomo Nara, and George Condo are more well-known and famous than 15 of the artists on your list.
Hi there Joseph, thank you for watching and for joining the discussion. The algorithm that was used to create this listed only crawled living artists whose primary practice is painting. Kusama, Doig en Tuymans are the great absentees in my humble opinion.
Art is marked by subjectivity. It is its strength, yet at the same its weakness. Therefore we have used an algorithm based upon objective data the create this list
John Watson. It are the star makers with rotten morals that strive to make this surreptitious new for the new trash famous. There are still many honest artists whose soul is singing, but you don't get to see them. The makers of this video don't want to know about them.
@@aquelpibe That's right, surreptitous. Art was always a song of the soul. Shamanism was part of art, and that what the modern surrepteous theorists assume to be 'new' was already used in the Neolithic, especially land art, it was even coupled to astronomy. When the theorists declared Kandinsky's black square, Mondrian's squares and Picasso's deformed female portraits the greatest of Western art they threw away the baby with the bath water.
My lifelong goal is to influence this list one day... Contemporary painting needs a lot of pre-xx century skilled craftsman painting and stringer connections with close to viewer heart, etnic and antique designs
Maybe what you really seek is recognition. Which there is certainly nothing wrong with as long as we keep in a healthy perspective. World record seekers, Artist of all types, high achievers. It's a double edge sword. Reflect.
I am no specialist in contemporary art, but I am an amateur art lover who is fairly well-versed in art history. I was a little surprised that probably more than half of these artists were entirely unknown to me, and there are only maybe two or three of them whose position on the list seems justified by the quality of their work. Admittedly, the samplings of work by each artist were small, and these judgements were made quickly, but my first responses to a new (to me) painter are rarely too far from where I end up. I think you got it right with Gerhard Richter on top, and Jasper Johns and a couple of the lesser-known artists probably deserve their spots, but, overall, the art world is looking pretty weak right now, based on this survey. Still, it was interesting to watch.
Dear David, thank you for tuning in and for sharing your most honest and interesting thoughts on this selection. The list was created using an algorithm measuring career facts, as a result, the list is not 'perfect', rather an objective take on a subjective matter.
if you are a modern art painter, really, you cannot compete with someone who can actually paint. its a different game today and just because art operates differently because the modern world is weirdly different, it doesnt mean that it is equally good.
Personally, I believe painting abstract can be a lot harder than painting figuratively (from my own experience as an artist). It is not about being 'good' at painting, it's about creating compelling and intriguing art. Nevertheless, artists like David Hockney or Gerhard Richter are very skilled painters, yet as the years go by they develop towards abstraction. Why depict reality if we can depict anything we want
I would add to the list 3 VERY important painters, important not only for their art market value but also for their important influence in the painters community : 1)- MARTIN KIPPENBERGER 2)- JEAN MICHEL BASQUIAT 3)- PETER DOIG This three names are crucial in the Contemporary Art of nowadays. Thank you very much 🙏
Three absolute greats of the contemporary art world for sure! The first were not included as they have passed away sadly and the query was about painters today (living). When it comes to Peter Doig, I have no clue why his name wasn't in the top 20 results, as with Luc Tuymans and Yayoi Kusama to complete the major absentees
Thanks for an interesting list with some names I wasn't familiar with. That might be the only value of the exercise given that any tweak in a composite ranking measuring "importance" would probably result in a different ranking or even new entrants. More art than science, pun intended.
Hi Boris, thank you for tuning in. And I absolutely agree. However, it is interesting to approach the field of contemporary art in such a manner to have a high end selection of the most in-demand and most-exhibited artists.
wow, fantastic debate here, on lots of levels... but one other factor in what gets an artist noticed is their personality - an inherent charm, chutzpah, or quirkiness, the X factor - that draws people to them and comes through in their art. this encourages making an invest in them personally and is a component of a saleable product for, say, a gallery.
Hi there, thank you for watching and for adding this to our lively discussion. I agree 100%. It is indeed not only about the artwork, but also about the artist.
I think that art should be able to stand on it's own as well. I'm not really interested in something bland and boring just because the artist was fun and interesting.
I was waiting to see Gerhard Richter the whole way up the list and getting near the top I was afraid he wasn't there, but a nice surprise to see him at the top, and well deserved, always loved his October series...
I strongly agree. And yes, the October/Baader-Meinhof series is one of his highlights throughout his illustrious career I believe. Thank you so much for tuning in and for saying hi in the comments
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I think being a master of "how you market your paintings" is the most important skill to adapt by the contemporary artists.
Or who you meet. Successful artists don't represent themselves but are being advised, supported and represented by excellent galleries. When there is a match, and the market and art world are enthousiast, great things can happen for an artist.
@@contemporaryartissueThank you for telling me that. Actually I'm an artist too, perhaps I should keep creating artworks and leave my comfort zone to meet great people.
@@nerfed6650 You should, get involved and things will happen!
Andre Herring art is wayyy better
I think in the opposite direction.
the most successful painters in business. Nothing more.
Ain't that the truth... I chalk it up to good marketing
correct. Interesting to note how many Germans made the list. Germans, Americans, Austrian.
Perhaps that would be a more appropriate title for this video. Art can be a volatile subject, pretentious ambitions abound and we the viewers must be aware and savvy for we are swimming in a sea of charlatans and publicity agents.
@@Vera-kh8zj and not many black or brown artists....
Aren't Damien Hirst and Banksy even more famous and successful when it comes to selling art? I am wondering why they even didn't show up on this list...
It's heart warming to see that even the untalented artist is given a voice through platforms as this!
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Lmao, it's a load of rubbish
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Regardless of how "important" or "groundbreaking" any of this art is, there isn't a single painting out of everything I just saw that I would want hanging on my wall.
De gustibus et colorbus... Thank you for tuning in!
It's not about pretty and well-proportioned, it's more to do with your ability to convince someone that it actually relates to something conceptual and is therefore worth obscene amounts of money.
@@newfineartit’s about BS-ing a millionaire to buy a piece of garbage from an art gallery. “Did you here what’s his face multi billionaire bought X for Y$”. That’s it.
@@thatrandomchannel8589 The artist in question has to be on to something that is unique and also that the value of their work is on an upward trajectory.
I could hang a Frank Stella
I rolled my eyes during the entire video
yes, maybe it's better to educate yourself first.
Across the floor?
Lol same no Kerry James Marshall or Kehinde Wiley or none
@@Corrie-gk4go Maybe it's not
@@Corrie-gk4go could say the same to you
I was surprised to see so few artists whose work I was familiar with, let alone had heard of, in this list of supposedly famous artists. And puzzled as to why so many of them were either German or Austrian, male and born in the '40s. It did make me wonder how their influence has been measured.
Hi there, thank you for watching and for joining us in the comments. The list has been created by the Artfacts algorithm which ranks artists based upon objective data and career facts (such as shows at major institutions, auction results, biennials, collections, et cetera). Indeed, the algorithm favors a certain generation of artists as it highly rates longevity.
@@contemporaryartissue Hmm that certainly skews the results in their favour!
@@amberdreams_0 I agree with you 100%. When it comes to painting, the 'oldest' living painters are born around 1935-1945 had their peak in the 70s and 80s. At this point in time, the most important tendencies were Neo Expressionism (Neue Wilden & Viennese Actionism) and New European Painting reinvigorating the public's interest in painting and figurative painting after a period of pure abstraction, minimalism and conceptual art. That makes these painters so valuable and therefore the most exhibited or 'most famous'.
@@contemporaryartissue Are you sure you understand how algorithms work?
@@contemporaryartissue interesting ... a suggestion .. is there a way to find out the relative worth of artists born to different decades .. you could make a top 10 of those born in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's etc.. that too might bring up a more varied list and show a shift towards more women and non-white painters .
Watching this video put me in mind of the Dutch tulip craze.
Thanks to everyone who named their favorites who did not make this list. It helped me to create a list of artists to check out. Thank you for producing this video.
That's wonderful! Teamwork makes the dream work! ;-)
And well-done for including a grand total of two female artists in this overwhelmingly patriarchal list of supposed "most famous" artists. Truly groundbreaking stuff.
@@hughjass6646 Most of the famous artists and ones at the top of the list are men though, so it's factually accurate. It doesn't mean they don't appreciate art by women. Relax buddy.
All I can say about this is they must be amazing sales people!
throw a tub paint on a canvas and call it art
It's what prominent art critic promotes your work
And I bet your five year old could do better.
We can't all be moved by beauty or interested in human experimentation and expression. I feel bad for you.
@@orphansparrow2 I am an artist and my favorite artist is vincent van gogh but when someone paints a canvas in one color like a wall that's not art.jackson pollack painted some interesting pixtures
Now I know why myself and many artists I know are not famous. We are TOO GOOD!
exactly
there is an interview with an old director to the CIA, he explain why they promote the contemporary art in seventies. its not art but propaganda
So..as to what is considered great art..I should skew my realism like most of these artists do...the weirder, the more attractive apparently... I've been working too hard.
Never seen so much crap on one video
@@Powitree1 Realism doesn't sell as well because you aren't doing anything new. You're not bringing anything to the table that we haven't seen for hundreds of years now. It's skillful but it's tired
From the drawings, I concluded I was one of the best artist when I was in grade 2. Now I lost all that nonsense drawings. I wish I have saved all my drawings.
Artists just aren’t the same as they used to be, like da Vinci, Picasso, and Van Gogh. These guys were geniuses. The art I saw in Paris was unmatched. That’s the kind of art that fascinates me.
Kiefer is also a a genious!
I was also not particularly impressed by the art of the artists from this selection. I recognized only Richter. But not all modern artists do something superficial. I advise you to search for Ivan Marchuk on Google
Well, you won't find that in this list, but they do exist, and there is a whole new generation that is following those steps.
It took Michalangelo 30 years to paint a ceiling. I don't know what he was playing at because painted one in two hours only yesterday.
Contemporary art is the house style sanctioned by governments. Gnomic to the point of being meaningless, too incomprehensible to offend anyone, revolutionary in only the most sterile and harmless of ways, the works are essentially tokens used in elaborate tax scams. The effect any exhibition produces is a kind of weary dismay, which always elicits the question no one apparently dares ask: 'Is this it? Is this the best we can do?'
We ? Do you paint ? And what about the world of contemporary literature, music, poetry? Or does good art mean 'technical facsimiles' ?
The actual evidence is, and not necessarily here, that artistic talent is unlimited. There's plenty of good and sometimes excellent art and music to look at and listen to.
Oh, my friend. The U.S. government has abandoned art decades ago.
Never a more true comment than this. The world art market is run by controlling elite fraudsters.You said it all, geoffrey warburton. The scam is deep and dark.
You nailed it, man.
An algorithm is deciding this? Instantly problematic.
Always had a downer on Hockney, then I went to an exhibition at the Tate and realised I'd been wrong all the time. A genius.
Amen! He's brilliant indeed, saw a great retrospective recently at BOZAR in Brussels. Thank you for tuning in!
And I tried to keep an open mind on Hockney. Then became more familiar with his work, and now I feel confident in saying that all of it is overrated, and none of it is actually good.
The different phases of painting, going back to the Renaissance, inspires me to paint as I feel. It may, or may not invoke reaction, nevertheless, I appreciate painters from the past. Expressing themselves. Contemporary painters approach and exert their expression from inspiration that seemingly is social and cultural abstract. This is how they are economically successful. Do they evoke a true feeling?
I believe they do. For instance a Mark Rothko, cultural abstract at its best and has an emotional impact as direct as hearing music. Thank you for tuning in
This is really out of date. Hockney hasn't lived in LA for a decade or more.
That the world gone mad, is beyond doubt.
Mad,mad,mad!🙄
The video does prove this quite comprehensively I agree.
@@davidbloem8122 it sure does!
Absolutly!!!
Well.. not really! This is just a *piece* of the art world! A market created by rich people to pass money around and keep around only "prestigious" artists around... or who will become one. Galleries manage their prices to a point that'd be illegal in most industries... everything else about it, is just a bluff! Look around the world, and people, to make a living and art in much healthier communities who just respect each other's work...
Caravaggio, Boucher, Michaelangelo, or Rubens - I am grateful that I learned from the masters.
Would the old masters do just as good today?
Marlene Dumas's works are great, reminds me of Toprak Bek's paintings, he mostly work on Modern Art and Child Figures in his own style, about topics of inner journey through existence. I've seen his Missing Child Murders exhibition a few years ago and it was amazing. Another promising artist, I believe he will do well in the future like Marlene Dumas.
Marlene Dumas. What absolute crap.
I think there are some amazing artists on that list. It’s just hard for me to believe that the top artist in the world are old white men from Germany.
Yes, it's uncanny to see so many painters from the same generation of German painters in this top 20.
Why? Although the United States tried to seize the primacy in contemporary art, it is in Europe where the tradition is, and these "old white men from Germany", despite what they do, are heirs to a true Academy. While taking into account that, apart from the American mercantilist system, it is Germany who has created the "rules of the game" of contemporary art.
You are correct in saying that the list comprises of old white men. Whether some are amazing is a matter of taste which I do not share with you.
Bigazo alzo vas german ya ya!
There are many others that are of other ethnicities that are more recognized for their artististry than many on this list. I can think of at least two from Asia, several in the US, and Africa.
If this is the best artist today iam shocked
I do agree on Gerhard Richter being the most famous painter of today. However 'the best' is a whole different discussion and very subjective.
True, this is so much of the same old stuff. Trying to be as artsy, vague and “provoking” as possible, aka getting away with as little effort as possible, thinking of some vague reasoning and making the sheit for tax evaders. The results are absolute tragically shit in my opinion. The emperor is wearing no clothes. Old hobbyists prolific in filling canvasses.
Not artists in general, painters according to this presentation.
@@davidbloem8122 "tragically shit" made me laugh. It's funny how much people hate contemporary art. Here, though, I think a lot of it is the presentation as well as the selection. Kiefer and Richter have done some great stuff, but, their fame has gotten to their heads and their more recent work has softened, and that's what we are seeing here.
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As a Gerhard Richter fan I was glad to see him listed as #1. As a woman who has done doctoral research on the struggles women artists have always had navigating their way through the male gatekeepers of the art world, I was shocked at the ugly and tasteless art works that depicted the "top mostly male artists" in this study. Two out of twenty: it seems not much has changed over the centuries for women artists.
The list has been created by an algorithm (by Artfacts) that ranks artists based upon objective data and career facts (such as shows at major institutions, auction results, biennials, collections, et cetera). In other words, the list does not discriminate, however, it illustrates the art world still does - or certainly when it comes to this 'older generation of artists' with great longevity which is valued strongly for this list. However, I am convinced the list will be much more diverse within 10 or 20 years. For instance, our video on the top artists born after 1970 was much more diverse, using the same algorithm. Thank you for tuning in
bitter are we ?
@@matthewgardner5983 The overcrowded art 'industry' has many such people. Their work is never good and they find scapegoats. For this one it is men. Nobody is holding women back at all. It's just an excuse for not being very good.
Maybe women should start making good art then? Also most of them are sharlatans
@@arthurw1604 There are really great women artists. There are women in my 'top ten' or whatever. The issue I have is with people like the women who commented above, who like to drive divisiveness and drama ( I have a BFA in Painting). One random video on TH-cam doesn't define the 'art world.
Beauty is in the eyes of beholder...same with art.
We live in an age where there are no famous artists.
Hockney? The exception I would say.
Banksy
But yes I agree. People are able to find in such specific detail what touches their heart, that it seems to be different people to be great for every person. A wonderful thing in my opinion.
I think the idea of fame has changed since the time of Picasso and Dali. To be famous is such a quick thing these days. One day you’re a hit, the next you could be a nobody. The world of art isn’t an exception. A quick rise or buzz is worth more these days then to be a constant ‘decent’. I don’t know, that’s just my idea on it.
Not true. Just not gallery painting.0
Looking at nationalities of most famous artists, it looks like the world wide fame can be achieved only in few places.
Great point! I was very surprised - and yet at the same time it is somewhat self-explanatory - to find so many artists from the three major political powers of the previous century: Germany, Great Britain and the United States. How power, politics and art are intertwined...
And the right gender and skin color…
"Art" thrive in places where there are no wars ,no famine ,nor ignorance not colored skin.
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Oh, Really?
And that place is Austria!
I can think of almost no good reason for this video other than to give me a list of contemporary artists I might use to try to impress people who might be impressed by that sort of thing.
Different strokes, id be happy with almost all of them
The guy presenting the video is simply promoting his business, it is an advertisement, as most videos on TH-cam are.
Watch the updated version of the top 20 most influential painters today here: th-cam.com/video/C-r1hFZyqY4/w-d-xo.html
Let's discuss the main topics of consternation in the comments section from our previous video.
1) Lack of diversity: The list has been created by an algorithm (by Artfacts) that ranks artists based on objective data and career facts (such as shows at major institutions, auction results, biennials, collections, et cetera). In other words, the list does not discriminate; however, it illustrates the art world still does (please, don't shoot the messenger!)-or certainly when it comes to this 'older generation of artists with great longevity, which is valued strongly for this list. This tendency is shifting for the better, with our lists analyzing younger generations being much more diverse. Further, a surprising conclusion is the lack of diversity is at its strongest in this particular medium; painting. Performance is dominated by female artists, and other media, such as installation, photography, and video, have much more diversity.
2) Using an algorithm to select the top 20 painters today: The algorithm is able to provide a selection of the most prominent artists today. However, these top results still need to be interpreted with a critical pair of eyes and mind. The main reason why we adore using the Artfacts algorithm is that it enables us to approach fame/popularity/pertinence objectively. Otherwise, depending on the person who creates the list, it would be entirely different. If I made them, I would be imposing my personal opinion on you, which I don't feel comfortable with. Instead, with this algorithm, we can create these rankings in a very coherent and consistent manner. It crawls all artists in the world, so every artist is considered, and it can often show a discrepancy between our perception of the fame of a specific artist versus reality. Discover the algorithm here: artfacts.net/register?ref=596b983667cd4ef3ecd9afcb78629b0da0baa51e
3) Why are there so many Americans and Germans?: As with the lack of diversity, this results from the value the algorithm addresses to longevity-which is beneficial for the artists who were born in the 1930s and 1940s. And during that age, America and Germany provided some ground-breaking art and movements, which is reflected in these results.
4) Where is Banksy?: He might be very famous-particularly among people who aren't really into art, but the one artist they know will be Banksy-but when it comes to retrospectives, major art events, and even collections, he does not match up with these 20 artists. It is interesting to see how our perception of fame is often incorrect when one analyzes their actual pertinence in the art world.
5) Where is Jenny Saville, Luc Tuymans, Peter Doig, Tracey Emin, Julian Schnabel, Neo Rauch, ...: Sadly, the list consists of just 20 artists. And some of my personal favorite painters are not included. As a result, I invite you to write down your top 5/10/20 in the comments below. Looking forward to it!
These artists are famous and successful ONLY BECAUSE the “Art Establishments” i.e. the “Art Industrial Complex” tells us so; for example: Art critics, art gallery owners, art gallery reception desk worker pretending they’re doing something important on their latest Mac, art school professors, brainwashed art school students wasting their parents money, art museum curators, art auctioneers, self-important over-priced Art magazines, popular culture news/media/gossip presenters, actors, con-artists, cult leaders, liars, adulterers, pop singers, fashion models, charismatic preachers wearing skinny jeans, satan, the NY times, politicians and other “contemporary artists”. Oh, and especially Jeff Koons.
It's sad, cause there are real artist out there that you can't compare to these. They are really creators, pure artists. But they are so absorbed into their work, that they don't have time to sell theslmelves as Dali did, or these once are doing, they don't express nor create anything.
David Hockney lives and works in Normandy, France since 2019.
For me Gerhard Richter is the freest artist because of the different styles he has chosen to create. Inspiring and liberating.
And yet, interestingly, I haven't seen a single painting from any of these artists, worthy of hanging on my wall. I suppose, in the end, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
It certainly is! Thank you for tuning in
No, it is because today we have all become idiots.
I find it very interesting but also very understandable that Contemporary art seems to move between the explosive and the very minimalistisk searching for some calm and maybe even beauty. But all art must be Rosted in experience - and human experiences truly limitless - andso is Contemporary art 😊
Dear Lis Engel, thank you for putting this to words so beautifully and accurately. I agree, the Appolonian versus Dionysian forces are as ubiquitous as ever.
The academic artists of the 19th century are artists. Today we have frauds
@@notnek202 The 19th century academics all painted the same things in exactly the same way. So I am most grateful for the arrival of Modern Art at the end of the same century, and the copernican revolution in art at the start at the following century.
@@contemporaryartissue no they didn’t see even you don’t know. For that matter you could say the same thing about 20th & 21st cen painters. Today just throw some paint on the canvas, something any child could do, then you need a so called art snob to tell you what it’s all about. Art is now more for the elites even more so then in the 19th cen. In the 19th century at the Paris Salon millions of people of all classes flocked to that great art exhibition. In this day and age only the educated elites with money attend such events. Art of the 20th & 22st cen really about ugly and lowest common Denominator. In the past art was about beauty and lifting you up not bringing you down. Modern art was based in one thing & one thing only money. You don’t need talent just be able to produce it fast enough to turn a profit for the dealers. Modern & contemporary is about one & one thing a only 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
A nice little compendium that unwittingly demonstrates the slight, shallow soullessness of contemporary art in a thoroughly convincing manner. I am sold. It is shit.
Absolutely correct, it is all shit. Injected false substance into garbage. An insult to true art.
@@jnewhouseillustration6075 what is true art? Try not to sound like Adolf Hitler and his ridicule of "Modern Art"
@@xpez9694 Although Hitler was a sick twisted maniac I'm sure whatever art he produced was better than anything of this modern garbage.
@@xpez9694 Try not to throw around the Hitler insults which I'm sure you use often because you are an overly sensitive cry baby. Modern art of today is a scar on the face of real true art. When janitors toss modern art " exhibits " in the dumpster because they mistook that crap for actual trash you have to wonder. That's funny too!! LOL
@@xpez9694 I would say true art would last the test of time like so many works in the Louvre or other renowned galleries. True art is the result of a knowledgeable and skillful artist devoted to their craft. Art that elevates and lifts the soul, inspires and exhibits beauty. Painting, sculptures, music, dance and more can be true art. Poetry another example. Done from the heart and mind using skills and thought.
Interesting - and nice to see. Thank you.
The exclusion of some other living artists such as Banksy (who is currently, if arguably, more famous than anyone on this list) - and Yayoi Kusama (the most highly sold, quite likely known, and wealthy female artist at the moment) - as well as a few others - is a but telling of a number of things - but list are lists - and who in the end has ever got anything right - especially with something as subjective as art.
The key word is subjective …..
@@roxannetomlin3113 You take my point.
The key word with these lists is objective in fact... Thank you for tuning in!
With Banksy, the perception of fame and the reality in the art world are two differen things - especially how fame is measured with this algorithm, valueing museum retrospectives over Instagram followers for instance. The case for Kusama, which also would apply Hirst for instance, is that she isn't 'a painter' per se, although she paint, she is more a multidisciplinary artist
Banksy is 🗑️
I know art is relative in the watcher eyes, but from number 6 to 1 I understand and see the skill others is like kinder garden shapes and expressions.
Interesting with a presentation like this even if it seemed a little hectic in the presentation of the 10 artists.
I did not know all the artists, but I know Georg Baselitz, Gerhard Richter, David Hockney, Jasper John, Anselm Kiefer and Frank Stella, but I discovered some artists that I did not know e.g. I really liked the mystical landscapes of Ikemura and the abstract expression of beauty and freedom of Albert Oehlen and I also found Heino Zobernig interesting and the hazed beauty of the photo paintings of Gerhard Richter. - thank you for the presentation
Thank you very much for tuning in. Happy to hear you discovered some new artists.
Incredibly informative and interesting. However, I can't imagine a more annoying musical background.
Hi there Carlos, thank for you watching and for your honest feedback. It helps us a lot to improve our videos!
I second that!
@@contemporaryartissue I'd agree, it was dreadful. Why have music at all, especially when there are no long gaps in the narration? Oh and the closed captions were very faded into the background for some reason, which made them difficult to read, so there was no option but have the sound on.
@@contemporaryartissue Have you seen the paintings by Michael Lydon buffer art?
Couldn't agree more.
As a German, I had no idea how many German painters/artists are famous in the world. In fact I don't know any of them. 😵💫
Und einen der Größten, Neo Rauch, war nichtmal mit dabei.
@@pottpott7587 Kenne ich auch nicht. 😁
You have nothing to lose. They all are execrable.
The question of who became influential in Art was really interesting to me growing up as an artist, and I observed that those who became famous are people who have a strong practice AND who have strong connections. Both the two are necessary to make it. More often than not, in addiction, males are more predominant than female artists, and masculine way of making art seen as more significant than practices that express more soft and feminine qualities.
Another aspect I noticed is how involved is the artist in his/her craft.
I have my own list of who is great and why for me, and I let others have other opinions as well.
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Interesting remarks for sure. But I do believe the tide has been turning the past two decades. Feel free to share you list here as well, I am curious!
Honestly as a normal person I have no idea who these people are. I really don`t think this stuff is what the normal person wants. I think this appeals more to some snobby intellectuals somewhere that I can`t fully know.
As for their art judging by the video I`m actually positively surprised. Their art is not as horrible as I thought. Some of it is garbage obviously but there were some pieces that were ok. Can`t say I`d be dying to have them but they were ok.
@@cowboybeboop9420"Normal people", listen to Cardi B, wear t-shirts from Walmart, and eat McDonald's.
@@beckbabej I`m from Eastern Europe so we don`t have Cardi B or Walmart here and there is McDonald`s only in a few big cities and mostly tourists eat there because.... well idk why but they do. That being said this stuff is literally of the same value as those things it`s a bunch of ugly stuff maybe slightly less ugly than I imagined that is bought for tons of money by a bunch of rich snobs so they pretend to look intelligent.
We don`t really see great art like the one before WW1 or beautiful architecture or high literature or good music and movies. I`m an engineer and I work in the construction industry and the biggest enemy to architecture are architects. What is considered great architecture today is just shocking kind like porn but it`s not beautiful.
@@cowboybeboop9420 I totally agree with you that much of what's in this video isn't equal to the great masters and some of it is garbage. Some is masterful though, and like the works of Jackson Pollock, many people say it's just thrown paint, but the composition and the color is carefully thought out.
In architecture it's easier to see that classic beauty standards are better than shiny boxes. Frank Lloyd Wright who you sort of quoted, refused accolades from "big architecture" of the time as they were making everything ugly.
As an American, I must say your standards are well above what is "normal" here. It's interesting that you equate the bad but expensive art to porn, because many rich people are quite perverted in many ways here. The disgusting "art" of Marina Abramovic is a perfect example of your point. Some people say if art evokes a feeling (even nausea?) then it is successful. Empirically, some part of everyone knows that it's ugly.
I think I misunderstood your original comment to mean that if the masses didn't appreciate art then it was garbage. I realize now that's not what you meant.
Missing Pierre Soulages. I would put him #2.
Excellent shout! Great artist and certainly deserving of a spot in this list
6:25 When I try a new brush on Photoshop
Sell that shit. Tax evaders love that stuff.
I think this list meets the mandate: The most famous painters ALIVE TODAY - as calculated y an algorithm using measurable career facts. It would be interesting to see the measures the algorithm uses. I would imagine it would include: Solo Exhibitions in major galleries with weighted scores for the galleries, cumulative values on auction sales, number of works held by major collections, current price trends, number of academic articles about the artist in peer-reviewed journals, mentions in traditional, social and web media etc. These will be weighted, so there will be some bias, but there will also be consistency. Interesting that the value of sales is not dominant, otherwise Jeff Koontz would be right up there. I think that is right.
Nice job. Good to see Kentridge up at number four.
Hi Shaun, thank you for tuning in and for your excellent analysis in your comment. You are right when it comes to the algorithm as it measures not only the number of solo and group exhibitions, but also the quality of the shows in relation to the galleries or institutions in question. Also, price trends, auction results, public and private collections, participations in fairs or at major art events. Concerning Koons, we have included him in our video on the top 20 sculptors in the world.
So glad about Kentridge being way up there and he is not 90yrs old yet !
And Kentridge is also not bald and he creates his masterpieces 10 000 km away from the Germans and Austrians ranked here
Jeff Koons isn't a painter
Great, just awesome. Pure craftsmanship and devotion to the visual arts.
Thank you so much for tuning in! Have a great day
Do we really need to be repeatedly reminded that *New York City* is in "the United States of America"?
They use ChatGPT to write all of their videos it seems.
An interesting watch. I was very pleased to see Sean Scully in the list, whose body of work over the course of his career is utterly extraordinary. Marlene Dumas and Alex Katz are two other personal favorites that I was happy to see make the cut, but I am surprised not to have seen more female artists - I would have thought Bridget Riley and Julie Mehretu could warrant being included?
Hi there, thank you for tuning in and for joining us in the comments. Yes, I was also surprised only to find Dumas and Ikemura. Riley and Mehretu are indeed very deserving of a place in this list. Also, Yayoi Kusama is in my opinion one of the greatest absentees too.
The same thought struck me and particularly as several of the paintings shown owe an obvious debt to Riley and of course where was Yoko Ono ?
I came on to question the same - thank you for raising it
Can't understand Sean Scully paintings, and being Irish, I really wish I could. I reckon they chose the number one spot (Mr Richter) well though
@@Eris123451 but Yoko Ono isn't a painter
Thank you for sharing this awesome Artists. And the music 🎶
Each artist has his own vision and message in every painting he draws, all the best to all
Well said! Thank you for tuning in!
Thanks for the video and getting to know the artists.
Thank you for tuning in, the pleasure is ours!
Undisputed gerhard richter at no. 1 no doubt. From the appearance, technique, relevance and subject matter of his works he is really the top dog.
I agree completely. No. 1 painter today and no. 1 artist as well.
Marvelous. Very informative and inspiring.
Thank you very much for your kind words. Have a great day!
I realize that he is gone now but I especially enjoyed Keith Haring's animated imagery! So full of life!!
I agree 100%!
did you? yuk
@@mcflypainter7212 we're all entitled to our own opinions - even you and even if it is wrong! 🙄
Thank you for this list, it was a pleasure seeing all of these big painters together. I would love to see a similar list for drawing, but also for sculpture and installations. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for tuning in and for the appreciative words! Great suggestion, we are certainly planning to encompass every medium, presenting only the best of the best artists. So stay tuned!
You made excellent presentation. The music overpowers the voice.
I agree with the poater, "how you market your paintings" I like Hockney and a few others on this video, however, if I compare my work with many of these artis, I must be a genius!!
I am repelled by the majority of this work with the exception of Hockney.I've always liked his work.The message conveyed is that artists must drug themselves, contort their bodies, blindfold themselves,Be male, bald or have white hair,be German, perform disgusting "rituals",use saws and humungous paintbrushes, etc,,and the result will be "ART".
I guess the Artfacts algorithm was programed to find the painters with the best skills to sell their art. Otherwise I doubt these painters stand out in any way from all other abstract and modern artists today.
The algorithm was designed to find 'the most famous' painters. Wether they are 'the best' is open for interpretation.
3dEmil. That crap is pushed by the starmakers of the new for the new theorists of the art world.
@@contemporaryartissue Really? In which language?
Their longevity seem to be a common theme in this presentation.
@@TheHighlanderprime I've noticed that as well .
Excellent and thoughtful, Thank you
Thank you very much for tuning in and for your kind words!
Spot on. Thank you for the video. 😊
Thank you Eric!
Its a nice list but I feel like you've taken mostly the old white male guard, I would have included, Stanley Whitney, Maria Lassnig, Chris Ofili, Mary Heilman and Dana Schutz to name a few.
Great suggestions one by one, terrific painters. When it comes to the selection, he list is based upon objective career data crawled by an algorithm. It is clear to say the algorithm values longevity strongly, which can be a bit problematic too. However, it was and is the ideal way to create these lists in the most objective manner I believe
But most of those people aren’t old, male and white.
@@contemporaryartissue intresting, sounds like the algorithm is checking out European auction houses:)
I disagree. Algorithms are written predominantly by white men. Therefore algorithms are built to be racist, sexist, and biased in favor of a white man's perspective. Algorithms do not have a mind of their own, their decision-making logic is written by and decided on by the VALUES of a person or a small group of people. In the case of technology, 9/10 are white men. Technology, much like art, unfortunately suffers from a lot of racist and sexist gatekeeping.@@contemporaryartissue
18/20 were old, male, and white. I counted.@@dadlvr1088
Other than the agitprop and nihilism they’re quite nice.
For all the critics here: do NOT forget, that theses dudes stated with GREAT paintngs (like Picasso too). When o l d and established, they can SMEER what they WANT ! Thats their reward. So you have to judge the WHOLE work of every artist . . . and not only the most recent one . . .
I would have included also Antonio López García and Peter Doig in that list.
Hi there, thank you for watching and for your joining the discussion in the comments. I agree 100%! Also Tuymans and Kusama are missing in my humble opinion
That music is way too loud. I can hardly hear you.
Probably mentioned elsewhere but David Hockney lives and works in Northern France now. Informative film - many thanks. I saw some of Katz’s work in the Guggenheim recently - fabulous
Indeed, thank you for tuning in! Katz is impressive indeed, would've liked to have seen the show, it looked fabulous!
Gratified to notice, no matter what shows I attend, that no living artist that I have, so far, encountered is doing anything close to what I do! Quite a relief, lol!
Hockney is a great artist. Most of the others are just well marketed pretenders.
Richter?
Exactly. The critics, most of whom can't paint, elevate certain artists. Freud and, dare l say, Jenny Saville, are far greater painters in my humble opinion, than the majority of this lot. As Sibelius said, there's never been a statue erected to a critic.
I disagree, Hockney paints from photographs and also paints trees, in a large format. It's no big deal. In fact all the artist's in this video, are mediocre. And the narrative is a lot of............................
Thank you. Keep going.❤
Thank you very much for tuning in, much appreciated!
The more rubbishy the artwork, the more intellectual+creative+fantastic the artist. Phooey! Alexander Averin and Vincente Romero Redondo are still my fav painters!
Thank you, watching this top 20 I found myself saying I may actually be interested in maybe two of the artist mentioned works and could respect maybe three more the rest are dust bin for me. I looked up your two and vastly prefer them. Thank you for introducing me to them.
These is not deep art, mostly rubbish, yeah
Where's the trash can??😂
Thank for showing !
Seem more business than art keeping the tribal right connection less effort of the product
Your choice of Gerhard Richter as your number one artist was a good choice as there are so so many great artists. His longevity and creativity speaks alot to me. Thanks
I agree 100%, seeing Richter on number was no surprise! Thank you for tuning in and for connecting with us by commenting. Best wishes from Belgium
Richter was never more than a 2nd tier artist...at best. Now the most successful contemporary artist producing some of the shittiest work of his entire career.
Interesting how they explain the painting style.. This shows how everyone can become a successful painter without certain talent... Only the daring of doing something and not being afraid to get paid for what you do.
For the words of the profits were written on the studio wall
Concert hall
And echoes with the sound of salesmen.
The problem with most of this art work is that it can only be displayed in some giant Mac mansion compound of the lobby of a building with 30 feet walls.
Thank you for tuning in and for sharing your interesting thoughts. Many of these artworks are indeed monumental in seize. However, almost every artist takes on different sizes too I believe
Ja, lots of monumental works there, small works are also very beautiful - Mona Lisa for eg…. Know that Richter also does small works
Richard Prince is one of my favorite American artists. So is Bob Ross, Kehinde Wiley, Peter Max and Jose Parla.
Hi Johnny, thank you for tuning in. What a great anthology of top American artists. Maybe we'll do a video of the best American artists soon!
@@contemporaryartissue I love the comment and the answer, both in the twilight zone. My favourite one is in the list : Katz, but I admit that Ross had more hair.
No female artists on your list
Don't forget Helen Van Wyk.
Interesting watch.
There are sooo many of us well diversified and living artists that will never get their props. Big ups to you and US for the true passion that we keep displaying. Don’t stop!
As a woman artist, I have to add I am glad a woman made the cut. 🤗
I also abstract paint and its a wonderful escape from a dark world to pour awesome color and enjoy life through paint !
Two women
Agree! I too was happy to see them mentioned as some of the best. So many women are unrecognized in this field.
There's always someone playing the sexism or racism card.
Need to do this for younger artists. Fresh ideas in this new world
We have; feel free to watch our video on emerging artists (abstract and figurative), and the top artists born after 1970. Enjoy!
Go start your own channel, junior.
Very sad
I think it is a great omission not to have included Frank Auerbach, not only because his extraordinary painting, but also he was part of a type of painters who transformed pictorial materiality in relation to figurative representation, such as Lucian Freud, Leon Kossof, Eugene Leroy... today you can see their heritage in artist like Allison Schulnik and others...
In short, the "natural" insensitivity of the algorithm...
Thank you Eduardo for watching and for adding this great point to your discussion. In fact, Auerbach was sitting in spot 26 when we crawled the algorithm. I agree when it comes to the insensitivity of the algorithm. It's a bit 'too ruthless' for sure!
Frank Auerbach really deserves to be right up near the top. Legend.
@@colinleahy9918 Agreed!
@@contemporaryartissue Disagreed!
Gerhard Richter, William Kentridge (also for his films) and Imi Knoebel are my favorites on this list.
Three artists I personally adore as well! Great taste ;-)
Alle vorgestellten Kūnstler MEGA professionelle Handwerker mit absolut sauberen und durchdachten Arbeiten. Respekt.
I agree!
Good list for you, i'll make my own list.
Of course! Feel free to share here
This list seems like it would be more accurately titled "The Most Famous Painters Today If You're Over 60." If you're younger Damien Hirst, Jeff Koons, Takashi Murakami, Yayoi Kusama, Ai Weiwei, Banksy, KAWS, Cecily Brown, Peter Doig, Yoshitomo Nara, and George Condo are more well-known and famous than 15 of the artists on your list.
Hi there Joseph, thank you for watching and for joining the discussion. The algorithm that was used to create this listed only crawled living artists whose primary practice is painting. Kusama, Doig en Tuymans are the great absentees in my humble opinion.
I only heard of the No. 1 Gerhard Richter. I like his paintings. ❤
He's great!
Jean Michel Basquiat is my favorite artist of the 20 th century!
An icon for sure! Thank you for tuning in
He's also been dead for over 30 years.
I guess I just don't like art since I find much of it to be either trash, fraud, unskilled or amateurish looking.
Art is marked by subjectivity. It is its strength, yet at the same its weakness. Therefore we have used an algorithm based upon objective data the create this list
John Watson. It are the star makers with rotten morals that strive to make this surreptitious new for the new trash famous. There are still many honest artists whose soul is singing, but you don't get to see them. The makers of this video don't want to know about them.
@@Foxglove963 Surreptitious?
@@aquelpibe That's right, surreptitous. Art was always a song of the soul. Shamanism was part of art, and that what the modern surrepteous theorists assume to be 'new' was already used in the Neolithic, especially land art, it was even coupled to astronomy. When the theorists declared Kandinsky's black square, Mondrian's squares and Picasso's deformed female portraits the greatest of Western art they threw away the baby with the bath water.
Same! thought mostof it was trash. But I prefer realism so I would think that.
My lifelong goal is to influence this list one day... Contemporary painting needs a lot of pre-xx century skilled craftsman painting and stringer connections with close to viewer heart, etnic and antique designs
More Michaël Borremans in contemporary art!
Honey, you really don't want to be on this list. Trust me.
Maybe what you really seek is recognition. Which there is certainly nothing wrong with as long as we keep in a healthy perspective. World record seekers, Artist of all types, high achievers. It's a double edge sword. Reflect.
love to see some artists from southern hemisphere too
when art becomes politics it becomes an old mans game
Well, that's your opinion. I did like learning about some artists that I didn't know. But yeah, not the final word here.
Thank you for tuning in!
I am no specialist in contemporary art, but I am an amateur art lover who is fairly well-versed in art history. I was a little surprised that probably more than half of these artists were entirely unknown to me, and there are only maybe two or three of them whose position on the list seems justified by the quality of their work. Admittedly, the samplings of work by each artist were small, and these judgements were made quickly, but my first responses to a new (to me) painter are rarely too far from where I end up. I think you got it right with Gerhard Richter on top, and Jasper Johns and a couple of the lesser-known artists probably deserve their spots, but, overall, the art world is looking pretty weak right now, based on this survey. Still, it was interesting to watch.
Dear David, thank you for tuning in and for sharing your most honest and interesting thoughts on this selection. The list was created using an algorithm measuring career facts, as a result, the list is not 'perfect', rather an objective take on a subjective matter.
We callit hamparte in spanish
if you are a modern art painter, really, you cannot compete with someone who can actually paint. its a different game today and just because art operates differently because the modern world is weirdly different, it doesnt mean that it is equally good.
Personally, I believe painting abstract can be a lot harder than painting figuratively (from my own experience as an artist). It is not about being 'good' at painting, it's about creating compelling and intriguing art. Nevertheless, artists like David Hockney or Gerhard Richter are very skilled painters, yet as the years go by they develop towards abstraction. Why depict reality if we can depict anything we want
The hands of the painter speak and the eyes of the world listen. ..
Beautiful quote!
I would add to the list 3 VERY important painters, important not only for their art market value but also for their important influence in the painters community :
1)- MARTIN KIPPENBERGER
2)- JEAN MICHEL BASQUIAT
3)- PETER DOIG
This three names are crucial in the Contemporary Art of nowadays.
Thank you very much 🙏
Three absolute greats of the contemporary art world for sure! The first were not included as they have passed away sadly and the query was about painters today (living). When it comes to Peter Doig, I have no clue why his name wasn't in the top 20 results, as with Luc Tuymans and Yayoi Kusama to complete the major absentees
Maybe you should put Thomas KinKade at the top of this list ?
@@stephenhanger2521 While this would've been hilarious, he un-forutunately also passed away already.
Where are the female artists ? All the missing artists mentioned in the comments are 98% Males .
@@rumo8811 hi, that is what I asked him
in a further reply, you can read it after my question about Peter Doig ... ,
SOOO IMPORTANT !
thanks for this video! i really love richter paintings ❤️❤️❤️❤️
You are very welcome, the pleasure is mine! Thank you for watching :-)
Thank you for the effort... there is hope for me and my cats.
Thanks for an interesting list with some names I wasn't familiar with. That might be the only value of the exercise given that any tweak in a composite ranking measuring "importance" would probably result in a different ranking or even new entrants. More art than science, pun intended.
Hi Boris, thank you for tuning in. And I absolutely agree. However, it is interesting to approach the field of contemporary art in such a manner to have a high end selection of the most in-demand and most-exhibited artists.
wow, fantastic debate here, on lots of levels... but one other factor in what gets an artist noticed is their personality - an inherent charm, chutzpah, or quirkiness, the X factor - that draws people to them and comes through in their art. this encourages making an invest in them personally and is a component of a saleable product for, say, a gallery.
Hi there, thank you for watching and for adding this to our lively discussion. I agree 100%. It is indeed not only about the artwork, but also about the artist.
I think that art should be able to stand on it's own as well. I'm not really interested in something bland and boring just because the artist was fun and interesting.
I was waiting to see Gerhard Richter the whole way up the list and getting near the top I was afraid he wasn't there, but a nice surprise to see him at the top, and well deserved, always loved his October series...
I strongly agree. And yes, the October/Baader-Meinhof series is one of his highlights throughout his illustrious career I believe. Thank you so much for tuning in and for saying hi in the comments