This is a demonstration of Hafskjold-Stav runic stances. This was filmed by Hugh Long in October 2005 in Virginia, USA. Graham Butcher of www.iceandfire.... performed the demonstration.
It's an old Norway tradition which nearly vanished after WW II, because no one wanted to cope with something, which bases on runes. Ivar Hafskjold was probably the last one which was teached in this art. Not by his father, as it should had been, but by his grandparents. But they where quite old, so he started to learn Budo martial arts too, to get a base. Ivar teached several trainer, from different parts of the world. Graham Butcher spreaded Stav in GB, and for a short period, he teached some Germans too. I was one of them.
Thank you for posting such a beautiful video. I will keep working hard and maybe one day I will be able to move with the grace and beauty of this gentleman. BB /0\
Guys, the family which this is named after does not claim this to be a long - standing art. Systema is relatively new and it doesn't claim to be some ancient tradition. Judo wasn't developed until the 19th century and it is still effective. And let's not forget Brazilian Jiu Jistu. Age doesn't determine efficacy, only tireless refining of the art does.
Indeed, Stav is a modern creation. Which I don't mind, I just don't like the dishonesty of trying make out it is some long tradition. Still, a huge industry has grown up around Ninjas and Ninjitsu and that was a invention of around a hundred years ago too....
You really don't have much historical knowledge, do you? Stav is very ancient. That it was preserved by a single family in Sweden is not historically unusual. There are actually hundreds of martial arts system preserved and monopolized by single families throughout China, Japan, Indonesia, Phillipines, as well as Europe. So, there is nothing unusual about a single Sedish family preserving an ancient Norse skill set. BTW, you might study the history of ninjutsu also, since your statements here are also incorrect.
@@bamboodelightcompany "You really don't have much historical knowledge, do you?" Well, more than some it would seem... I get it. Truly I do. The desire to feel clever and special thinking you've found something truly new and secret etc etc. A bit like how some people will love finding out about a new band before all their friends but once the band becomes popular they'll go off them as they aren't 'their' band anymore. Or at most bop along but claim to 'prefer their early stuff'. It's all pretty basic human antics. Returning to Stav, it takes very little time to debunk it. And I'm not trying to be a downer. I mean I met Ivar and Ronayne back in the 90's and actually spent a week training with them. It was fun and I think they were both really good martial artists and (to me at least) were very friendly. I still own the book Mr Butcher wrote and (still) have the VHS on Stav I bought way back when. To me it's the principles of Stav - seeing the lines and that sort of thing and talking about mindsets that is interesting. But that doesn't change the fact that all this lineage stuff is bollocks. Oh, and I'm not wrong about Ninjitsu. Collate a bunch of moves and slap a name on it and promote it. As per my original post I've no problem with modern inventions I just don't need the waffle about ancient/secret whatever. But outside of that - heck shut up and take my money - I've done Karate, Hapkido, Taekwondo, Jishukan and - well - a week of Stav! We all know these things are modern codifications of older stuff but it doesn't stop people enjoying them or getting a lot out of them.
@@bamboodelightcompany Stav is very _recent._ That it was preserved by a single family in _Norway_ (Hafskjold is Norwegian) is not only unusual but completely unheard of. Any art kept within the family alone will die, which is why there are no such arts in Japan, either. There may have been certain ryu-ha that kept their secrets within their family, but they also died with the family. Probably within two generations. The only way for an art to survive is through proliferation, and that means teaching to a broad segment of the population. After all, what good is a martial art kept within a family, to anyone other than that family? How could that martial knowledge be of use to the warlord who needs fighting men for his campaign? And how would a martial art kept within _one_ single family be representative of the population at large?
It's an old Norway tradition which nearly vanished after WW II, because no one wanted to cope with something, which bases on runes. Ivar Hafskjold was probably the last one which was teached in this art. Not by his father, as it should had been, but by his grandparents. But they where quite old, so he started to learn Budo martial arts too, to get a base. Ivar teached several trainer, from different parts of the world. Graham Butcher spreaded Stav in GB, and for a short period, he teached some Germans too. I was one of them.
Thank you for posting such a beautiful video.
I will keep working hard and maybe one day I will be able to move with the grace and beauty of this gentleman.
BB /0\
Greetings from Brazil, here we are studying books and videos. Congratulations by your work! Lord A:.
see a video called Stav - 1997
Guys, the family which this is named after does not claim this to be a long - standing art. Systema is relatively new and it doesn't claim to be some ancient tradition. Judo wasn't developed until the 19th century and it is still effective. And let's not forget Brazilian Jiu Jistu. Age doesn't determine efficacy, only tireless refining of the art does.
I am curious to the historical referance to this "Martial Art" and its ancestry.
Indeed, Stav is a modern creation. Which I don't mind, I just don't like the dishonesty of trying make out it is some long tradition. Still, a huge industry has grown up around Ninjas and Ninjitsu and that was a invention of around a hundred years ago too....
You really don't have much historical knowledge, do you? Stav is very ancient. That it was preserved by a single family in Sweden is not historically unusual. There are actually hundreds of martial arts system preserved and monopolized by single families throughout China, Japan, Indonesia, Phillipines, as well as Europe. So, there is nothing unusual about a single Sedish family preserving an ancient Norse skill set. BTW, you might study the history of ninjutsu also, since your statements here are also incorrect.
@@bamboodelightcompany "You really don't have much historical knowledge, do you?" Well, more than some it would seem...
I get it. Truly I do. The desire to feel clever and special thinking you've found something truly new and secret etc etc. A bit like how some people will love finding out about a new band before all their friends but once the band becomes popular they'll go off them as they aren't 'their' band anymore. Or at most bop along but claim to 'prefer their early stuff'. It's all pretty basic human antics. Returning to Stav, it takes very little time to debunk it. And I'm not trying to be a downer. I mean I met Ivar and Ronayne back in the 90's and actually spent a week training with them. It was fun and I think they were both really good martial artists and (to me at least) were very friendly. I still own the book Mr Butcher wrote and (still) have the VHS on Stav I bought way back when. To me it's the principles of Stav - seeing the lines and that sort of thing and talking about mindsets that is interesting. But that doesn't change the fact that all this lineage stuff is bollocks.
Oh, and I'm not wrong about Ninjitsu. Collate a bunch of moves and slap a name on it and promote it. As per my original post I've no problem with modern inventions I just don't need the waffle about ancient/secret whatever. But outside of that - heck shut up and take my money - I've done Karate, Hapkido, Taekwondo, Jishukan and - well - a week of Stav! We all know these things are modern codifications of older stuff but it doesn't stop people enjoying them or getting a lot out of them.
@@bamboodelightcompany Stav is very _recent._ That it was preserved by a single family in _Norway_ (Hafskjold is Norwegian) is not only unusual but completely unheard of. Any art kept within the family alone will die, which is why there are no such arts in Japan, either. There may have been certain ryu-ha that kept their secrets within their family, but they also died with the family. Probably within two generations. The only way for an art to survive is through proliferation, and that means teaching to a broad segment of the population. After all, what good is a martial art kept within a family, to anyone other than that family? How could that martial knowledge be of use to the warlord who needs fighting men for his campaign? And how would a martial art kept within _one_ single family be representative of the population at large?
Runic yoga was actually invented in the 1930s, so there is no real historical reference