I tried the exact same model you had, and honestly, I was really disappointed with the lockdown. After using the 15 Elite all last season, the difference was obvious-it just didn’t feel secure enough. That’s why I decided to sell them and switch to the Sokito Scudetta, which, to my surprise, suits me much better. I feel like Nike needs to stick to their core focus on lockdown, which is crucial for the Speed Mercurial. While everything else about the 16 Mercurials is nearly perfect-the grip and feel are outstanding-without the lockdown being spot on, the boots just feel incomplete to me. Great Video again as alway keep going ! Looking forward to your Scudetta one :) !!
I’ve been looking for someone to say this. The heel lock down for me still has some slippage and I can’t sacrifice more toe room by going down another .5 size. But the Superflys has better lockdown for me.
@@mixdbyjoshua5621It seems like Nike is focusing on making the Mercurial more comfortable for players with wider feet-which unfortunately affects those of us with narrower feet. The result is a looser fit that lacks the secure, locked-in feel narrow-footed players usually need.This is the first time I’ve experienced this issue after five straight years of wearing Mercurials. It’s disappointing, especially after always relying on their secure, narrow-footed fit.
Oh yes, been looking forward to this! Ohhhh that ranking as well! Boot of the year list should be really really interesting. Your review is far more positive than mine haha!
Judging for AG use only since it's the only surface I play on. I just got the adidas F50 Messi so will need more time. The experience of the vapors is unique and the ability for me to even wear them is amazing given how narrow they look (The Vapor 15's were extremely painful and unwearable), but overall I feel the lockdown suffers a lot. The boot feels spongy and you lose a bit of that pingy sensation that you get from an Alpha for example. Ranking wise I'd say: Mizuno Alpha Puma Ultra 5 Adidas F50 Messi Vapor 16/Morelia 4 Beta, (solely because of the hotspots I get at the heel) and the soleplate
I’d like to see a one month review of the puma ultra 5 non-carbon. Preferably the AG stud patten but I know you have the FG right now. Also, the ultra 5 non- carbon didn’t make it in your top 5? You didn’t even list it at all when you started doing your personal rankings lol
Hey Noah! Do you find going down half size too much to fix the lockdown issue? Found same issue of lockdown after breaking them in, so I tried half size down and it fixed that particular problem. Break-in time was a little longer but the boot as a whole is a 10/10 and lockdown is on par with whatever in the market IMO.
Noticed you said these are slightly behind the phantom gx2 elite. Is it because of the shape, the lockdown or just because you've worn phantoms for so long, I'm just curious to know why exactly is that?
2 questions: I play ultimate - should I get the Luna or the Merc? I have normal-wide (toe box near pinky pinches sometimes). I make a lot of cuts. I wear a 10.5 usually, should I order 10.5 or 11? Thanks
@NoahCavanaugh thanks! Is that for comfort? Performance? I assume they perform equally well. I play mostly outdoor on real grass, some winter indoor on turf. Any other considerations? Appreciate the recommendations 🙏🏻
Bit of a wierd question: I'm considering a nike by you vapor 16, but i have noticed that the nike swoosh is very large and looks like it covers up a lot of the gripknit, do you think that it will make much of a difference or is the swoosh area just as grippy?
Hey Noah, I was wondering if you would still choose the GX 2's over these. Because I have the GX2 right now but I have always been more comfortable in a mercurial. Which one would you recommend (Im a striker). Love the vids man keep it going! Much love from the Netherands❤
@@NoahCavanaugh thank you mate! I've got a couple of questions for the cosmic speed colourway but I'll wait for your video on it (besides the Ultra football on) 😁
does the gripknit get less grippy over time? i got a pair of gx2 recently playing on fg, it could be because i wash them after every session but i feel like they got less grippy after 3-4 sessions
If you have to compare Mercurial 16 vs. Phantom GX 2, which would you rather play? I always played in Mercurials but with 16, my toes has a bit less room than before. And bigger size is too roamy for me. Could it get better after break in? Thank you.
You get your hands on the newest Sketchers SKX 1.5? Just saw a comment from one of the engineers that helped design the SKX and Razor and I guess the heel counter has been updated, the knit and the last of the boot.
You've mentioned that you played on AG pitch with an FG model Vapor 16, and also you've mentioned that AG models has a soleplate issue. I usually don't really have a set pitch where I play at so I play FG and AG, do I still go with the AG despite the soleplate cracking issue or stick with FG since you've mentioned that you played on AG with FG so I'm assuming its ok?
he goes through his favs at 10:27, comments on the f50 specifically at about 10:57. in short though, he prefers these over the f50s because these fit his feet better.
Do you think if the Luna 2 fits that these will because I really want the vapors but I’m unsure if they will fit. I tried the Superflys at the store and they felt very similar to the Luna 2s.
I've been watching your vapor review, am very interested into buying them but i don't know cause my budget is low and am considering to get the Pro version, is it remotely close to the elites?
Im going to go shopping for some cleats tomorrow and there is several different options. I know i should get whatever fits my foot best but looking at pure performance, would you get the vapor 16 or mizuno alphas?
Your position has absolutely NOTHING to do with your boots bud 🤝 Get boots that fit YOU the best. If one of those options fits you better than the others, go with those!
I change it up every time! I have to test boots so making sure each boot gets adequate match time is essential - if I HAD to pick one pair to wear from my collection strictly for performance and comfort and what I enjoy in a boot, it's probably the GX2 AG
@@NoahCavanaugh I know this question is kinda random but between this generation vapor16/superfly10 and the F50 Messi (gold and white color way), which one is more to your liking?
Hi Noah, I’m looking for a speed boot because I’m a winger in intermediate level. I’m having problems that a lot I’ve tried recently including puma ultra and Skechers razor have been pushing the top of my big toe, so much so that i can feel it sticking it out. And going up half a size would be too loose on the midfoot, do you know any speed boots where I wouldn’t have this issue
1) You're position has nothing to do with the boots you wear! 2) You're feet are probably not suited to a traditional "speed" boot (just marketing by the way). 3) I would try something with a leather forefoot so your toes are more comfortable - Mizuno Morelia Neo 4 or Asics DS Light X Fly 5
Yes, how did you manage to keep them so white, even after playing on turf? Usually they are stained brown whenever I’ve seen them used. Great review, really well done.
Just water and a sponge mate! 🔥 Keep in mind the VAST majority of the wear time with these were on FG, because (as I've said countless times) these boots are not really suitable for AG surfaces with how aggressive the soleplate is 👍 Mud comes off super easy!
@@gavinpitts8075 please dont listen to him. i love how he is doubling down on his bs. Nike put furrow like trough in between the gripknit so once the dirt is trapped, it's non cleanable, and not to mention the gripknit itself is kinda hard to clean.
Noah you’re my boot guru! Do you have a top 5 personal fav list for AG?
Appreciate you mate! Coming soon 🔜
Here’s mine ds light pro ag 3 #1. Mizuno Morelia neo 4 #2 vapor 16 ag#3 mizuno alpha ag #4 gx2/luna 2 ag #5
The review we have all been waiting for!
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Been waiting for this one😁
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I tried the exact same model you had, and honestly, I was really disappointed with the lockdown. After using the 15 Elite all last season, the difference was obvious-it just didn’t feel secure enough. That’s why I decided to sell them and switch to the Sokito Scudetta, which, to my surprise, suits me much better. I feel like Nike needs to stick to their core focus on lockdown, which is crucial for the Speed Mercurial. While everything else about the 16 Mercurials is nearly perfect-the grip and feel are outstanding-without the lockdown being spot on, the boots just feel incomplete to me.
Great Video again as alway keep going !
Looking forward to your Scudetta one :) !!
That's fair bro! 😎 The scudetta is class, videos coming soon!
@@NoahCavanaugh iam waiting for that one 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I’ve been looking for someone to say this. The heel lock down for me still has some slippage and I can’t sacrifice more toe room by going down another .5 size. But the Superflys has better lockdown for me.
@@mixdbyjoshua5621It seems like Nike is focusing on making the Mercurial more comfortable for players with wider feet-which unfortunately affects those of us with narrower feet. The result is a looser fit that lacks the secure, locked-in feel narrow-footed players usually need.This is the first time I’ve experienced this issue after five straight years of wearing Mercurials. It’s disappointing, especially after always relying on their secure, narrow-footed fit.
Oh yes, been looking forward to this! Ohhhh that ranking as well! Boot of the year list should be really really interesting. Your review is far more positive than mine haha!
There are SO many good boots this year holy hell 🔥
@@NoahCavanaugh Right?? It's been an incredible year
Judging for AG use only since it's the only surface I play on. I just got the adidas F50 Messi so will need more time. The experience of the vapors is unique and the ability for me to even wear them is amazing given how narrow they look (The Vapor 15's were extremely painful and unwearable), but overall I feel the lockdown suffers a lot. The boot feels spongy and you lose a bit of that pingy sensation that you get from an Alpha for example. Ranking wise I'd say:
Mizuno Alpha
Puma Ultra 5
Adidas F50 Messi
Vapor 16/Morelia 4 Beta, (solely because of the hotspots I get at the heel) and the soleplate
Thanks for your input mate 😎
Great review🙌
Appreciate it 🤝
I’d like to see a one month review of the puma ultra 5 non-carbon. Preferably the AG stud patten but I know you have the FG right now. Also, the ultra 5 non- carbon didn’t make it in your top 5? You didn’t even list it at all when you started doing your personal rankings lol
Hey Noah! Do you find going down half size too much to fix the lockdown issue? Found same issue of lockdown after breaking them in, so I tried half size down and it fixed that particular problem. Break-in time was a little longer but the boot as a whole is a 10/10 and lockdown is on par with whatever in the market IMO.
I don't go down 1/2 size....? 🤔 I'm glad you found it helpful though!
I despise not being able to wear these consistently (they give me the worst blisters.) I love the uppers and feel of the zoom unit
Dang! Sorry to hear that mate, probably not the right boots for your feet then!
@@NoahCavanaugh they aren't, all Nike boots give me the same blister (except the magista opus)
So I decided to make a small vertical cut along where they give me blisters on my heels, and yeah they're good again LMAO @@NoahCavanaugh
I’m looking forward to the 1 month on those allure boots, scared to buy them after you said they had zero heel padding
Play test coming first! Just filmed it
hi Noah, just one question. If you had to pick between Phantom gx2 AG vs Vapor 16 Elite AG up to a game, what would you choice?
GX2 🤝
Had mine for about 2 months now and only played AG. Unfortunately the knit is starting to separate from the sole plate 🙄
Yikes! Sorry to hear that mate
I'm still waiting for the Skechers SKX 1 or 1.5 reviews 😅 The question is when to expect it? 🙂
yeah cool!
Noticed you said these are slightly behind the phantom gx2 elite. Is it because of the shape, the lockdown or just because you've worn phantoms for so long, I'm just curious to know why exactly is that?
It's because of the shape for MY foot, and lockdown / performance 🤝
2 questions: I play ultimate - should I get the Luna or the Merc? I have normal-wide (toe box near pinky pinches sometimes). I make a lot of cuts.
I wear a 10.5 usually, should I order 10.5 or 11? Thanks
Ooo nice mate, such a cool sport! I'd probably go for the Luna 2! Regardless of which one you pick, go for your usual 10.5
@NoahCavanaugh thanks! Is that for comfort? Performance? I assume they perform equally well. I play mostly outdoor on real grass, some winter indoor on turf. Any other considerations? Appreciate the recommendations 🙏🏻
Bit of a wierd question: I'm considering a nike by you vapor 16, but i have noticed that the nike swoosh is very large and looks like it covers up a lot of the gripknit, do you think that it will make much of a difference or is the swoosh area just as grippy?
It should be too much of a bit deal - definitely better than the cosmic speed vapors
Absolutely mental how the top 2 speed boots for you, have polar opposite mentalities!
Great work hombre! 🫡
Crazy aye!
Hey Noah, I was wondering if you would still choose the GX 2's over these. Because I have the GX2 right now but I have always been more comfortable in a mercurial. Which one would you recommend (Im a striker). Love the vids man keep it going! Much love from the Netherands❤
Yes, they fit my foot better 👍
I just got mine in the Cosmic Speed colourway and it's pretty stiff indeed. I sure hope it will break in soon
Enjoy mate!
@@NoahCavanaugh thank you mate! I've got a couple of questions for the cosmic speed colourway but I'll wait for your video on it (besides the Ultra football on) 😁
Can u test the durability of the new ags, because the vapor 15 ags have been terrible
Maybe!
does the gripknit get less grippy over time? i got a pair of gx2 recently playing on fg, it could be because i wash them after every session but i feel like they got less grippy after 3-4 sessions
Not really mate no! They'll DEFINITELY be less grippy if you rub the upper with a sponge or towel though
If you have to compare Mercurial 16 vs. Phantom GX 2, which would you rather play? I always played in Mercurials but with 16, my toes has a bit less room than before. And bigger size is too roamy for me. Could it get better after break in? Thank you.
GX2 since it fits my foot better
You get your hands on the newest Sketchers SKX 1.5?
Just saw a comment from one of the engineers that helped design the SKX and Razor and I guess the heel counter has been updated, the knit and the last of the boot.
Yep! Review coming soon mate! 🤝 They're subtle changes that make a HUGE difference
Soleplates will crack when played on AG surfaces, and you kick the ground XD. ZERO give from the "grass" haha
That's why I recommend many times in my Vapor 16 FG review(s) to NOT wear them on AG 😂
@@NoahCavanaugh me looking back on 2 pairs of FG vapors and a pair of FG superflys haha that definitely got owned by AG ahaha
I’ve got fairly wide feet. Still rocking my Nike tiempo legend 6’s. Do you think these are accommodating for wider feet?
How Are they in width in toebox, midfoot and heel compared to the alphas?
Wider in all areas
You've mentioned that you played on AG pitch with an FG model Vapor 16, and also you've mentioned that AG models has a soleplate issue. I usually don't really have a set pitch where I play at so I play FG and AG, do I still go with the AG despite the soleplate cracking issue or stick with FG since you've mentioned that you played on AG with FG so I'm assuming its ok?
I said that the 15 AG had an issue with durability, not these (16s) 🤝
If you were trying to pick up a good hybrid boot, would you suggest the gx2 ag or the vapor 16 fg. Will gx2 ag still perform on natural grass ?
Yep! Whichever actually FITS your foot the best, then go for the AG of whichever model
Thoughts on the Copa Pure 2+? I’m looking for new boots and these caught my eye.
Reviews on those already up mate 👍
How does the grip compare to the phantom Luna 2 or the predators?
It's the same as the Luna 2.... and I've spoken about it in the play tests of the Luna 2, Vapor 16, and GX2 bro 😎
Do u prefer the vapor 16 or the new f50 after they’re broken in
he goes through his favs at 10:27, comments on the f50 specifically at about 10:57.
in short though, he prefers these over the f50s because these fit his feet better.
🫡 watch the video dude
I was gonna buy Vapor 16 today but heard from many ppl said about the lockdown issue…so I’m hesitating
It's only a "lockdown" issue if you felt perfect in the Vapor 15... the Vapor 16 has great lockdown, just slightly less than the last gen
@@NoahCavanaugh thanks. I guess I just have to try them again in the store(maybe half size down).
Hi Noah, love the review! How would these compare in lockdown to the Nike Phantom gx2 elite, in your experience?
IF both fit you, the GX2 has a bit more lockdown from my testing, mostly because the Vapor 16 is thinner overall 👍
will you be reviewing sudu's speed boots ( SFS FG 01+ ) ? They make the kits for Wolverhampton
Maybe mate!
Do you think if the Luna 2 fits that these will because I really want the vapors but I’m unsure if they will fit. I tried the Superflys at the store and they felt very similar to the Luna 2s.
Maybe mate, the Luna 2 are quite a bit wider than these
What do you think between them and the F50 Elite Messi?
Vapors 100%
Vapour
Hey Noah, how do you cleanup the upper? I got the Mad voltage color and it’s completely changed to half black after just one match.
Usually just water and a sponge, but be careful on Gripknit - sponges tend to rip it to shreds haha just be gentle!
I've been watching your vapor review, am very interested into buying them but i don't know cause my budget is low and am considering to get the Pro version, is it remotely close to the elites?
It's a different upper material mate, doesn't have the gripknit! That being said, I've heard decent things about the Pro model!
Im going to go shopping for some cleats tomorrow and there is several different options. I know i should get whatever fits my foot best but looking at pure performance, would you get the vapor 16 or mizuno alphas?
Either mate! If I fit perfectly in both... Alphas 😎
Hey Noah. Any thoughts on the Predator Mania made in Germany remakes? Would love to get your thoughts and a potential review
They look great! Haven't tried them yet though
im a very pacey winger so would you recommend me a phantom gx elite df or mds 006 elite cr7 or the air zoom 15
Your position has absolutely NOTHING to do with your boots bud 🤝 Get boots that fit YOU the best. If one of those options fits you better than the others, go with those!
Noah u forgot to do the one month review of the superfly 9 rising gem colour way
I didn't forget, I just didn't do one - I've already done a superfly 9 1 month review 😎
@@NoahCavanaugh oh I really wanted one
Do you some have the same Problem that the Insole slips up in the front of the Boot?
Not a ton mate! 🤝
hey noah, ive tried the f50 on and i get like a bulge around the ankle. would it go away once broken in? i want them but i cant get over the bulge
I haven't been able to get rid of mine either mate... and they're totally broken in... unfortunately no hope I can provide there 😅
Can you recommend me some boots for narrow feet for grip and control while dribbling and passing under 180$?
Narrow foot under 180... probably the vapor takedown?
@NoahCavanaugh what about from puma?like the ultimate takedown?are they good because I heard they were almost the same as the top end model?
hey noah, is there any video of adidas f50 one month review or I'm just missing that (?)
Coming soon!
What’s your current game boot?
I change it up every time! I have to test boots so making sure each boot gets adequate match time is essential - if I HAD to pick one pair to wear from my collection strictly for performance and comfort and what I enjoy in a boot, it's probably the GX2 AG
in regards to the heel area did any material dig into the back of your heel/achilles? i dont want blisters
Nope! I would've covered it in the video
@@NoahCavanaugh 👍 based on your videos tho I have decided to go with phantom GX2 elite AG as I got wide feet 👌
Which colorway of Vapor16/Superfly 10 you like best?
Probably these mate, so classic and clean looking
@@NoahCavanaugh I know this question is kinda random but between this generation vapor16/superfly10 and the F50 Messi (gold and white color way), which one is more to your liking?
What about the new balance fyron v7?? In your rankings
Up there as well 😈
AG Playtest please! Still waiting
You'll be waiting a while mate ❤️ Superfly 10 AG will be soon ish
Hi Noah, I’m looking for a speed boot because I’m a winger in intermediate level. I’m having problems that a lot I’ve tried recently including puma ultra and Skechers razor have been pushing the top of my big toe, so much so that i can feel it sticking it out. And going up half a size would be too loose on the midfoot, do you know any speed boots where I wouldn’t have this issue
1) You're position has nothing to do with the boots you wear! 2) You're feet are probably not suited to a traditional "speed" boot (just marketing by the way). 3) I would try something with a leather forefoot so your toes are more comfortable - Mizuno Morelia Neo 4 or Asics DS Light X Fly 5
Thank you! Hadn’t seen this reply when commented on the morielas about position and toe room. Gonna try them in half size down
Have you tried the pro version?
I haven't bro, no
Does the new yellow colourway also fit wide feet
Colorway?? They're the same boot dude 😅 so yes
Hey, did you clean the gripknit every day that you wear it?
Yes, how did you manage to keep them so white, even after playing on turf? Usually they are stained brown whenever I’ve seen them used. Great review, really well done.
@@gavinpitts8075 it is supossed to be clean everyday you use them, i keep my phantom gx almost clean with that
its a dead giveaway that he didnt use them for that many times. or else he would have shown the gripknit is not cleanable.
Just water and a sponge mate! 🔥 Keep in mind the VAST majority of the wear time with these were on FG, because (as I've said countless times) these boots are not really suitable for AG surfaces with how aggressive the soleplate is 👍 Mud comes off super easy!
@@gavinpitts8075 please dont listen to him. i love how he is doubling down on his bs. Nike put furrow like trough in between the gripknit so once the dirt is trapped, it's non cleanable, and not to mention the gripknit itself is kinda hard to clean.
Are these similar to the gx 1s?
Kinda, yeah!
thanks for video , can i ask you if you try puma boots who has HG/AG solplate
maybe mate!
are they for narrow feet or wide feet
I have an entire section on Shape and Fit. WATCH THE VIDEO...
Newbalance furons or theses ???
Furons for me
i always trust the wide footed king
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Good for wide feet or not
Did you watch the video at ALL? 😂
Skechers razor 1.5 review soon? :D
Yep!
New best Mercurials
YES
These or the puma ultras?
Good question mate, will have to investigate further 😎
First comment 🔥can you do a review video to adidas predator elite fold-over tongue fg solar energy
🥉❤️ Probably not brother, I've already done several on FT models
Mizuno Alpha is still top!! Nothing comes close, I wish it fit you perfectly Noah 😢
It's a class pair of boots bro, no doubt 💯
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