You need to add in the corner of the screen the number of NPCs walking so that you don't miss a couple of them because they just decided to stop You can do toggle button to (Stop/Follow) so you actually can stop team in safe area. Its kinda cursed to see that Gordon actually save people. Back in the day i thinked about that too but, because game didn't built to rescue people. I feeled sad. - *Fun Fact*: In Black Mesa you can rescue the scientists from the dining room to the broken elevator, where the scientist sits on a chair and Barney says he'll keep an eye on him because he can't jump to the stairs.
To move the whole team to the elevator they will jump (with goofy ass animation). On the stairs after they will carefully sneak to another staircase. And also climb up to the elevator. We can help the hanging scientist if we interact with him, he will then climb the stairs. The whole team can be left at the beginning of the chapter, I do not think that Barney who was grabbed by a zombie can be saved. Unless you prematurely kill the zombie from the vent. Barney won't be able to open the gate. CPR Guy will be able to revive all the lying people on the level.
@@mart9545 Listen, I can't make you all happy in one comment, original was 20y ago , but @myx8296 calculated 1998 to 2023 (25 years) properly (fixed it), we all know what is the original message here.
Not only is this fulfilling a childhood fantasy of mine, but it even fits HL2's mythologizing of Gordon as a resistance hero by showing how many lives saved to form a formidable army.
Ok TeamClown, I've been thinking about how to save the scientist hanging from the elevator. Here's the best solution. If you recall, he says "I can't hold on much longer". So this would naturally be a timed puzzle. If you can quickly reach the closest area to the scientist, he would then be savable. He could hop off the ladder or continue to climb up the ladder; and play the c1a3_sci_rescued audio ("Rescued at last! Thank God you're here!"). The implication would be that you boost him up or something.
@@teamclown755also why not have a room in the vending machine area at the end of Office Complex where the zombie would fall off, with rooms similar to the early versions of Office Complex. Basically a way of saving the security guard at the start of We've Got Hostiles. I had this idea after watching Freeman's Mind episode 10.
@@DogeyboyThePieChow A game developed by Rockstar about getting a bunch of tiny creatures (lemmings) to the end of a obstacle course without letting anyone of them die.
I love the guy that gave CPR at the beginning being able to save the guy at the level transition. That's just great game design right there. You don't get told about it, but if you're good enough to bring the right guy, you can save more people. It gives a whole other twist to Half Life gameplay.
Sven Coop has a medkit for revives, but it has to recharge and there's no option to prevent ally bodies from despawning if they don't revived fast enough
just having the scientists and barneys levitate and teleport through obstacles was one thing, but giving them whole animations for each individual section is crazy! incredibly hyped!
You should add in a way to heal the NPCs, in case anyone gets badly injured in all the combat sections. Opposing Force had the HECU Medic, perhaps the scientists could fill that role while the barneys fight?
“Are you seriously surviving black mesa by yourself gordan?” “No I’m with the science team” (this looks a good mod. Good job on it so far. Suggestion. Maybe the scientists can defend themselves with melee weapons. This was suggested by another commenter but I’m gonna say it to)
@@RustysRevenge Makes sense. It'd also be necessary to disable friendly fire for bots tho, else they'll damage each other when aiming for a headcrab or something.
1:38 Wow! This is amazing. This mod has shot up to the top of the ones I'm most interested in and impressed by. I think if I were to try to save the elevator guy, I would try to obstruct the elevator shaft somewhat and give him a less lethal fall, doctor Van Buren's office (11:20) has a metal table, if we could move it and get it past the office's door, maybe we could partially shove it into the door to the elevator shaft (with some half-life jank), even using it as a partial bridge ourselves, and then when the scientist falls, he falls on top of it and the other folks can take care of him.
this is like watching endangered species being rehabilitated and reintroduced back to the wild after decades.... its beautiful, thank you for your efforts to save these specimens back to its thriving status
If bringing your horde past the army ends up being impossible you could always cop-out with a "good" ending where they get evacuated once they go up that lift
What about an ending where if you defeat the final boss with surviving scientists, gman says that all surviving witnesses have been taken to custody, and gman congratulates you for your ability to keep people alive as much as you did.
This is so cool. I always imagined being able to do stuff like this, but never thought anyone would actually make it happen. This is an amazing labor of love.
A Squad Count HUD element similar to the HL2 one could be useful here, except it could count scientists and Barneys separately. Love the idea of this mod! Squad Command mechanics from HL2 would also be really useful, commanding the Barneys and Scientists separately would be a godsend. Also.. How do you plan on addressing the bridge between Apprehension and the rest of the game?
Make it so you can press the use key to pull that hanging scientist up the ladder, then make that elevator able to go down once you get onto it, and carry the rest of the crew to We Got Hostiles. In We Got Hostiles, you can cheat a bit and just leave them there...since that level is a giant loop anyway, you will be back to move them on (alternatively, make the "We're doomed" scientist able to open the security door and just skip the entire level).
You could streamline the process of making this mod by making the ladder climbing animations looping animations with starts and ends so you wouldn't have to make a new animation for each ladder, I know source can do this because TF2 has looping taunts with start and stop animations Also, something people were able to wrangle goldsrc into doing was giving the scientists guns, so I imagine doing the same on source would be possible too, as well as a nice bonus Though, i'd suggest turning friendly fire between friendly npcs off if you do that Oh, and make it so you don't collide with friendly npcs either, that seems to be an issue already Give CPR guy an arm band with a red cross on it so we can tell him apart from the dozens of other scientists with his face And as for the guy at the end, speed, have his dangling be on a timer that starts once you reach the elevator shaft
Some suggestion: - Having a button to set/call all scientists, and a button to set/call all barneys, so you don't have to E them one by one (edit: someone seems to have commented this). - Make scientist and barney able to pick up and use weapon, same as the rebels in HL2. It will take time animate them using weapon though (edit: someone seems to have commented this as well). - Make the barney in the silo door security room saveable if other barneys are present. For example, the other barneys point out the zombie behind him, he turn back and can kill this zombie. Also I'm having a feeling that the CPR scientist will get the unofficial official name "The CPR Scientist" from this mod :)
There is only one problem about last suggestion, it will make logical problem of barney not wanting to press silo door button, otherwise entire chapter is featurely skippable. Maybe zombie will drag barney into ventilation and after that you can find his dead body in said ventilation, and you gonna need scientist to do CPR again.
Perhaps Gordon could have a medkit similar to Sven Co-Op, that allows him to provide first aid to NPCs as well as revive them if they’re killed? Maybe it even gives him a single HP per heal to encourage players to protect BM personnel.
3:29 - I really hope they all breaststroked through the water like the artistic swimmers they are. Black Mesa has a swimming pool, after all. But seriously, if you animate every sequence yourself, besides the pain, that offers potential for so many amusing animations. The nature of HL1 is such that even the sight of levitating scientists is friggin' hilarious. Also (and it's easy for me to give advice), since you restored that Eli phrase, have you considered fixing the banter mechanic between the friendly NPCs in HL:Source? They used to ask each other questions and give answers, but the feature appears to be broken, amongst other things, in HL:S. Since it has been restored for GMod, for all I know, it is possible for Source, too. Looking forward to playing the mod with great anticipation! EDIT: More CPR guys, perhaps?
Saving people in the Office Complex chapter was my favorite thing to do (especially in HL:Source version which allows you having more than 2 people following you around at the same time). Will you release this mod?
I love how creative you were with saving the injured security guard having the cpr scientist save him is super clever and to save the scientist that gets killed by the trip mine at the silo doors you should have a previous security guard tackle him so he stops running
Probably the easiest solution for the ladder hanging scientist is to put an entity in the shaft that's a big sheet of metal left there by a maintenance team, or something to that effect. Once the player interacts with it, it tips over and blocks the shaft, allowing the scientist to drop down onto it safely (ignoring the exploding kneecaps maybe).
I take it that you won't be able to just bring every single NPC to the end, given certain barriers in the game, and the huge number of people you will come across through out will wreak havoc for sure. Are there meant to be checkpoints you can drop them off at? Like maybe the first time the player reaches the surface in "We've Got Hostiles", a helicopter lifts them off to safety or something. Since the HECU are hostile, I imagine you're gonna have to hijack one.
Might be full of oversights and there won't be a proper conclusion to that squad of survivors at all but I like to imagine that they eventually end up banding together and figuring out what to do then, they're a large group of survivors and maybe they'll pick up a few guns on the way for the scientists
I think this guy should make the same mod, but for opposing force where you can save all of you're fellow soldiers (not scientists as they're still not on the same team as the military)
Having an army is cool but you should probably make some safe spots to leave scientists so they escape black mesa and don't to follow you to nihhilanth
11:44 Catch mid air and carry on your arms upstairs. I think, unless you change elevator and maps, there is no rescuing them because of the We Got Hostiles topology.
Maybe make it so they can sometimes have accidents climbing ladders and doing parkour since they are old people after all (like maybe one misses the jump to the next crate and has to be pulled up somehow)
i think that would be a not very good idea because you'd then need to rely on RNG to save all Black Mesa Personnel, but still a pretty nice idea nonetheless
save the elevator scientist, with a human ladder! you need enough dudes, but say, a dozen or so keeping hold of several others, can 'throw' a guy out there with enough support to grab him and pull him back!... Makin me think of silly cartoonish ways the sceintists can do things with enough bodies XD
About them jumping across and climbing the elevator shaft's ledge: It's funny because I've been replaying the game and thinking about this problem recently and at the same time you've been developing this mod. - The first and most obvious solution would be to have them imitate the same movements that Gordon does. Jumping over the elevator chasm and grabbing onto the ledge, to then crawl and enter the elevator's vent opening. - Another solution would be having them to pull a Lara Croft: shimmying over the walls and edges whilst trying to grab onto the nearest ladder, one floor at a time, until they could then jump they way onto the elevator at the top. → But my favorite solution, would be, to have the player be more involved in their rescuing, and have it so that Gordon would need to climb all the way to the top to then release a ladder for them, or better yet, a rope! Another possibility would involve Gordon fixing the elevator and going back to rescue everybody. Or even have it so that rescuing the scientist that's about to fall makes it so that that scientist fixes the elevator for us somehow. Bonus: How about making it so that all scientists know CPR? Or making it so that at least a couple more of them know CPR, giving space for the player to fail a bit more. Perhaps also invent some visual way of distinguishing the ones that know CPR from the ones that don't.
Now I imagine when you add such animations as: picking up medkit/weapon, beat the hell out of any enemy they see, and literally end half life with a mini army 💀
Idea: You can save the scientist in Blast Pit by pressing a button that lowers a metal shield for the glass and makes the tentacle retreat saving the scientist
Well, in old times this could be done by cutting pieces of dialog and stiching them together but these days we have artificial intelligence. That could be used to train AI with the voices and generate completely new lines of dialog. D_D
Just realized something - how about leading a scientist or a security guard to open the door to the headcrab room? That way if you're fast enough, right after the scientist kills the first headcrab, you could kill the second headcrab, thus saving another scientist. Anyone else suggested this one yet?
I do wanna see this finalized, neat concept, something I always tried doing as a kid playing half-life 1. Barney's need to be able to shoot through friendlies, a key to mass-command-follow or mass-command-stop everyone in your party or who was recently in your party, a means to indicate who is injured and a way to heal them or command scientist followers to keep the party healthy. Dang, imagine showing up to Nihilanth's chamber with a small army of middle-aged lab-coat-wearing professionals from various fields of science and medicine each accompanied by at least 1 or more personal security guards. You'd almost certainly need special npc ai orders for the npcs to take cover at whatever worldbrush the player's reticle was pointing at. I hope they chat with each other. Big group conversations sound funny once you get like 20+ people lol Edit: Also, rescue the hanging scientist in the elevato barrel-of-monkeys style, have all 20 of your people chain hands together and make a goofy people-bridge that he lands on. It'd be crazy animation effort but the gag would be so worth it and it'd surprise the player so much lol. I could see vinny playing this, just to try and save everybody, and then the horde of scientists do a goofy coordinated stunt like a colony of ants just to add one to the group, lololol.
LOL @ 6:50. So, did the sheer tonnage of that grenade push that box up against a headcrab, and break it?! Let me guess: the headcrab survived being used as a wall. No way to tell after the explosion went off, but I'd say it's a safe bet. Gotta love Source logic.
I'm watching it over again and I'm thinking -- the lack of many scientist models in the og Half-Life is really brought to attention in this mod. It also makes it difficult to recognize CPR Guy. Would it be possible to make it so scientists could spawn and get randomized with something like another color of pants, or without their labcoat? Even just adding those two with the existing faces should add a good bit of variety.
I would love if you could save the laser-half barney by grabbing him and getting him out of the way before he gets chopped, and bringing the CPR scientist.
@@teamclown755And maybe same to scientists that are hanging in vents/ceilings? Like you press use button fast enough on them and it causes them to do dropping down sequence
As someone who made jumping, falling, climbing, etc work for their own Source Engine mod, I must say, bravo for the great idea and implementation. Making the animations work smoothly is a pain in the ass.
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This is the peak of human's empathy, to save all those people we lost 25 years ago.
You need to add in the corner of the screen the number of NPCs walking so that you don't miss a couple of them because they just decided to stop
You can do toggle button to (Stop/Follow) so you actually can stop team in safe area.
Its kinda cursed to see that Gordon actually save people. Back in the day i thinked about that too but, because game didn't built to rescue people. I feeled sad.
- *Fun Fact*: In Black Mesa you can rescue the scientists from the dining room to the broken elevator, where the scientist sits on a chair and Barney says he'll keep an eye on him because he can't jump to the stairs.
To move the whole team to the elevator they will jump (with goofy ass animation). On the stairs after they will carefully sneak to another staircase. And also climb up to the elevator. We can help the hanging scientist if we interact with him, he will then climb the stairs. The whole team can be left at the beginning of the chapter, I do not think that Barney who was grabbed by a zombie can be saved. Unless you prematurely kill the zombie from the vent. Barney won't be able to open the gate. CPR Guy will be able to revive all the lying people on the level.
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Actually 20 years ago as the back Mesa incident occurred in 2003.
@@mart9545 Listen, I can't make you all happy in one comment, original was 20y ago , but @myx8296 calculated 1998 to 2023 (25 years) properly (fixed it), we all know what is the original message here.
Not only is this fulfilling a childhood fantasy of mine, but it even fits HL2's mythologizing of Gordon as a resistance hero by showing how many lives saved to form a formidable army.
"Surely the rest of the science team will help you!" Sure did.
Missing animation for jumping is a peak comedy.
Give them a bit and they'll add them
but i like the missing animation version :(@@billy4lifeify
@@billy4lifeify but please make them run a few steps to gain momentum first!
Yeah, it's as funny as impressive at the same time, for real.
fair @@TheKitMurkit
To save the ladder scientist, have the CPR guy throw his healing needle at him, which gives him enough energy to climb up to safety.
what.
@@holyshitthatisalotofdrugshe means the scientist in the elevator before you go to we got hostile
This
Adrenaline needle would make more sense.
An actual medic with the crusader lmao.
i feel like having the CPR scientist from earlier helping the dead barney is such a genius idea that i would've never thought of
he should have some distinctive
Ok TeamClown, I've been thinking about how to save the scientist hanging from the elevator. Here's the best solution. If you recall, he says "I can't hold on much longer". So this would naturally be a timed puzzle. If you can quickly reach the closest area to the scientist, he would then be savable. He could hop off the ladder or continue to climb up the ladder; and play the c1a3_sci_rescued audio ("Rescued at last! Thank God you're here!"). The implication would be that you boost him up or something.
That is a good idea,
I can use a momentary_rot_button so the player has to hold E to rescue the scientist
@@teamclown755also why not have a room in the vending machine area at the end of Office Complex where the zombie would fall off, with rooms similar to the early versions of Office Complex. Basically a way of saving the security guard at the start of We've Got Hostiles.
I had this idea after watching Freeman's Mind episode 10.
2:52 i know when its finished the scientist will get a better jumping animation but PLEASE leave an option for keeping this goofy hop
This and old ladder animation 2:00
Half-Life: Lemmings Edition
:)
Mind telling me what lemmings is?
@@DogeyboyThePieChow A game developed by Rockstar about getting a bunch of tiny creatures (lemmings) to the end of a obstacle course without letting anyone of them die.
@@Xenomorph-xx121 thx
Pikmin
NOW we can truly be with...
THE SCIENCE TEAM
"Hello Gordon!"
All the "no longer following" lines playing while they continue to follow you is so funny. "I refuse to go another step!"
Peer pressure NPC edition
this guy needs more donations and develop the mod. please help him and let's power up the hl community at its 25th anniversary
I love the guy that gave CPR at the beginning being able to save the guy at the level transition. That's just great game design right there. You don't get told about it, but if you're good enough to bring the right guy, you can save more people. It gives a whole other twist to Half Life gameplay.
Meanwhile Black Mesa Source just gives middle finger with more than half of NPCs being unsaveable, like just why do that...
Sven Coop has a medkit for revives, but it has to recharge and there's no option to prevent ally bodies from despawning if they don't revived fast enough
just having the scientists and barneys levitate and teleport through obstacles was one thing, but giving them whole animations for each individual section is crazy! incredibly hyped!
You should add in a way to heal the NPCs, in case anyone gets badly injured in all the combat sections. Opposing Force had the HECU Medic, perhaps the scientists could fill that role while the barneys fight?
They did im from 2024
imagine if all ai could navagate obstacles, like imagine a marine or a zombie chasing you through the vents
That would be kind of terrifying at first
@@Gwestytears FOR GODS SAKE OPEN THE SILO DOOR THEYRE COMIMG FOR US ITS OUR ONLY WAY OUT OH MY GOD WERE DOOMED
“Are you seriously surviving black mesa by yourself gordan?”
“No I’m with the science team”
(this looks a good mod. Good job on it so far. Suggestion. Maybe the scientists can defend themselves with melee weapons. This was suggested by another commenter but I’m gonna say it to)
and guns, imagine a scienist screaming as he fires a mp5 full auto
@@RustysRevenge yeah that would be epic
@@flameplasmainian85724 they'd have stormtrooper aim as a downside though
@@RustysRevenge yeah. Because they are not trained in guns.
@@RustysRevenge Makes sense. It'd also be necessary to disable friendly fire for bots tho, else they'll damage each other when aiming for a headcrab or something.
1:33 That's one big dysfunctional family. Nicely done.
I think to save ladder scientist you'll have to quickly climb onto the elevator and interact with him to help him from falling down
This is the only way
good job on getting in
1:38 Wow! This is amazing. This mod has shot up to the top of the ones I'm most interested in and impressed by.
I think if I were to try to save the elevator guy, I would try to obstruct the elevator shaft somewhat and give him a less lethal fall, doctor Van Buren's office (11:20) has a metal table, if we could move it and get it past the office's door, maybe we could partially shove it into the door to the elevator shaft (with some half-life jank), even using it as a partial bridge ourselves, and then when the scientist falls, he falls on top of it and the other folks can take care of him.
this is like watching endangered species being rehabilitated and reintroduced back to the wild after decades.... its beautiful, thank you for your efforts to save these specimens back to its thriving status
This is amazing! I can't wait for the rest of the mod so I can actually save the staff of black mesa instead of just leaving them in awkward spots.
Comically large amount of scientists
But seriously, keep up the good work man.
what about a safe point for lead them? like Counter Strike, ensured leaving only two barneys with them (or even add some Otis on the safe points)
If bringing your horde past the army ends up being impossible you could always cop-out with a "good" ending where they get evacuated once they go up that lift
I think something like replacing the hostile HECU with black ops or Race X would maybe work?
Sorta switch the HECU to more… neutral
What about an ending where if you defeat the final boss with surviving scientists, gman says that all surviving witnesses have been taken to custody, and gman congratulates you for your ability to keep people alive as much as you did.
This is so cool. I always imagined being able to do stuff like this, but never thought anyone would actually make it happen. This is an amazing labor of love.
A Squad Count HUD element similar to the HL2 one could be useful here, except it could count scientists and Barneys separately. Love the idea of this mod!
Squad Command mechanics from HL2 would also be really useful, commanding the Barneys and Scientists separately would be a godsend.
Also.. How do you plan on addressing the bridge between Apprehension and the rest of the game?
Scientists and Barneys tracked Gordon down and killed those marines freeing Freeman
@@Аяшиебу but that would require an entirely new plot and levels tho...
@@prosto_a_user nope, just spawn them near that thrash compactor with some hecu courpses
@@Аяшиебу ok then lmao
There's a similar HUD concept in the mod Field Intensity.
Guys, imagine how cool it will be to give the guard a machine gun in the chapter We've got hostiles!
Make it so you can press the use key to pull that hanging scientist up the ladder, then make that elevator able to go down once you get onto it, and carry the rest of the crew to We Got Hostiles.
In We Got Hostiles, you can cheat a bit and just leave them there...since that level is a giant loop anyway, you will be back to move them on (alternatively, make the "We're doomed" scientist able to open the security door and just skip the entire level).
well but then you'll be leaving a lot of people behind so skipping WGH would be useless for this, but it'll be really funny to have that as an option
I saw the preview in a Discord server and he made everyone go through the whole elevator shaft parkour. What a sight to behold!
Or you grab the hanging scientist and hold them easily
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You could always use the old long jump animation from the Hologram in the Training course.
You could streamline the process of making this mod by making the ladder climbing animations looping animations with starts and ends so you wouldn't have to make a new animation for each ladder, I know source can do this because TF2 has looping taunts with start and stop animations
Also, something people were able to wrangle goldsrc into doing was giving the scientists guns, so I imagine doing the same on source would be possible too, as well as a nice bonus
Though, i'd suggest turning friendly fire between friendly npcs off if you do that
Oh, and make it so you don't collide with friendly npcs either, that seems to be an issue already
Give CPR guy an arm band with a red cross on it so we can tell him apart from the dozens of other scientists with his face
And as for the guy at the end, speed, have his dangling be on a timer that starts once you reach the elevator shaft
Great ideas!
either that, or all scienists know CPR
"Forget about Freeman"?
More like "Follow The Freeman!"
4:15 Amazing sync! 2 Scientists climb at the same time while 2 Barneys jump at the same time.
Some suggestion:
- Having a button to set/call all scientists, and a button to set/call all barneys, so you don't have to E them one by one (edit: someone seems to have commented this).
- Make scientist and barney able to pick up and use weapon, same as the rebels in HL2. It will take time animate them using weapon though (edit: someone seems to have commented this as well).
- Make the barney in the silo door security room saveable if other barneys are present. For example, the other barneys point out the zombie behind him, he turn back and can kill this zombie.
Also I'm having a feeling that the CPR scientist will get the unofficial official name "The CPR Scientist" from this mod :)
There is only one problem about last suggestion, it will make logical problem of barney not wanting to press silo door button, otherwise entire chapter is featurely skippable. Maybe zombie will drag barney into ventilation and after that you can find his dead body in said ventilation, and you gonna need scientist to do CPR again.
Valve's decision to have only 4 scientist models have caught up 10:25
Perhaps Gordon could have a medkit similar to Sven Co-Op, that allows him to provide first aid to NPCs as well as revive them if they’re killed?
Maybe it even gives him a single HP per heal to encourage players to protect BM personnel.
1:36
I cant breath- GHAAA-
Doctor healing guardian
Guardian, oh, GLAD you here!
3:29 - I really hope they all breaststroked through the water like the artistic swimmers they are. Black Mesa has a swimming pool, after all.
But seriously, if you animate every sequence yourself, besides the pain, that offers potential for so many amusing animations. The nature of HL1 is such that even the sight of levitating scientists is friggin' hilarious.
Also (and it's easy for me to give advice), since you restored that Eli phrase, have you considered fixing the banter mechanic between the friendly NPCs in HL:Source? They used to ask each other questions and give answers, but the feature appears to be broken, amongst other things, in HL:S. Since it has been restored for GMod, for all I know, it is possible for Source, too.
Looking forward to playing the mod with great anticipation!
EDIT: More CPR guys, perhaps?
this man is doing something all we need
Something I've always wanted in a half life game, NPCs that follow you in vents, ladders etc. I hope this gets fully developed
Also you might as well add an indicator. Maybe an icon above their heads to see who's following or not
Saving people in the Office Complex chapter was my favorite thing to do (especially in HL:Source version which allows you having more than 2 people following you around at the same time). Will you release this mod?
I almost don't want to watch too much of this because I wanna try it out! Good luck. All the animation work and stuff is awesome to see.
Now that's a mod I can vibe with!
"Guys only want one thing." Im happy that this exist it's like time traveling to save everyone-
I love how creative you were with saving the injured security guard having the cpr scientist save him is super clever and to save the scientist that gets killed by the trip mine at the silo doors you should have a previous security guard tackle him so he stops running
Probably the easiest solution for the ladder hanging scientist is to put an entity in the shaft that's a big sheet of metal left there by a maintenance team, or something to that effect. Once the player interacts with it, it tips over and blocks the shaft, allowing the scientist to drop down onto it safely (ignoring the exploding kneecaps maybe).
As a former member of the Scientist Killing Club, this is really cool
This is one of the most incredible things I’ve ever seen, this is something I’ve always wished existed but kind of just assumed would be impossible
I take it that you won't be able to just bring every single NPC to the end, given certain barriers in the game, and the huge number of people you will come across through out will wreak havoc for sure. Are there meant to be checkpoints you can drop them off at? Like maybe the first time the player reaches the surface in "We've Got Hostiles", a helicopter lifts them off to safety or something. Since the HECU are hostile, I imagine you're gonna have to hijack one.
maybe Otis can take care of them
Might be full of oversights and there won't be a proper conclusion to that squad of survivors at all but I like to imagine that they eventually end up banding together and figuring out what to do then, they're a large group of survivors and maybe they'll pick up a few guns on the way for the scientists
@@Beltboy And stay HOPEFUL
In this mod should be achievements for saving scientists and guards.
Like extra supply point or something
I think this guy should make the same mod, but for opposing force where you can save all of you're fellow soldiers (not scientists as they're still not on the same team as the military)
@@abhikergaming7783 He most likely won't because Opposing Force is on gold source
@@Atlas17871 He could port opposing force to the Source engine
@@abhikergaming7783Its not as easy as it sounds
Having an army is cool but you should probably make some safe spots to leave scientists so they escape black mesa and don't to follow you to nihhilanth
This is an awesome project, I cant wait to see 40 people cramped on the train cart with G-man at the end
Allow gordon to jump and grab the scientist when they fall and they climb onto your shoulders until after you get to a safe place
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Catch mid air and carry on your arms upstairs. I think, unless you change elevator and maps, there is no rescuing them because of the We Got Hostiles topology.
With how it is right now, it seems that Black Mesa boys are gonna make it all the way to the end
The little idle animation hop is killing me
it's like freeman building the Black Mesa East himself, how nice, more more show me more
Maybe make it so they can sometimes have accidents climbing ladders and doing parkour since they are old people after all (like maybe one misses the jump to the next crate and has to be pulled up somehow)
i think that would be a not very good idea because you'd then need to rely on RNG to save all Black Mesa Personnel, but still a pretty nice idea nonetheless
Ladder scientist just can climb the ladder and go to elevator
1:38 with CPR like that guard decided that laying down is not an option.
An amazing job! cant wait to see part 3
Saint Jam would love this mod
Would it be possible to give them the HLDM player jumping animation?
thank you for developing this mod
This is really good man
save the elevator scientist, with a human ladder! you need enough dudes, but say, a dozen or so keeping hold of several others, can 'throw' a guy out there with enough support to grab him and pull him back!... Makin me think of silly cartoonish ways the sceintists can do things with enough bodies XD
Great content bro, wish you make this mod for black mesa as well
6:57 that should be the mod's description
This is peak source modding.
I feel bad for that lone scientist stuck in a giant group of pasty boys
About them jumping across and climbing the elevator shaft's ledge: It's funny because I've been replaying the game and thinking about this problem recently and at the same time you've been developing this mod.
- The first and most obvious solution would be to have them imitate the same movements that Gordon does. Jumping over the elevator chasm and grabbing onto the ledge, to then crawl and enter the elevator's vent opening.
- Another solution would be having them to pull a Lara Croft: shimmying over the walls and edges whilst trying to grab onto the nearest ladder, one floor at a time, until they could then jump they way onto the elevator at the top.
→ But my favorite solution, would be, to have the player be more involved in their rescuing, and have it so that Gordon would need to climb all the way to the top to then release a ladder for them, or better yet, a rope! Another possibility would involve Gordon fixing the elevator and going back to rescue everybody. Or even have it so that rescuing the scientist that's about to fall makes it so that that scientist fixes the elevator for us somehow.
Bonus: How about making it so that all scientists know CPR? Or making it so that at least a couple more of them know CPR, giving space for the player to fail a bit more. Perhaps also invent some visual way of distinguishing the ones that know CPR from the ones that don't.
Now I imagine when you add such animations as: picking up medkit/weapon, beat the hell out of any enemy they see, and literally end half life with a mini army 💀
This is so underrated. I seriously cannot believe how much effort you put into this mod
Valve should've just integrated the fixed mod into Half-Life Source rather than put it at end-of-life support, maybe even hire BloodyMuffin. (0:12)
01:09 looks like you indirectly addressed my comment on previous vid.
Neat.👍
Idea: You can save the scientist in Blast Pit by pressing a button that lowers a metal shield for the glass and makes the tentacle retreat saving the scientist
suggestion: give medic armbands to the scientists that can do CPR
Can't wait for your army of Barneys plow through everything
cannot wait to see them fight alongside Gordon Freeman against the entire military
"I REFUSE TO TAKE ANOTHER STEP!"
*takes another step anyways*
blue shift rosenberg moment
So good. I remember trying to do this in vanilla HL
this is awesome, i'm so picking this up when it comes out
We wish we could hear more voice lines from them, there isn't just enough to feel like they thank you.
Love this idea.
Well, in old times this could be done by cutting pieces of dialog and stiching them together but these days we have artificial intelligence. That could be used to train AI with the voices and generate completely new lines of dialog. D_D
@@eduardovalenzuela1251 I was afraid to suggest that, exactly what I thought.
Just realized something - how about leading a scientist or a security guard to open the door to the headcrab room? That way if you're fast enough, right after the scientist kills the first headcrab, you could kill the second headcrab, thus saving another scientist.
Anyone else suggested this one yet?
I do wanna see this finalized, neat concept, something I always tried doing as a kid playing half-life 1. Barney's need to be able to shoot through friendlies, a key to mass-command-follow or mass-command-stop everyone in your party or who was recently in your party, a means to indicate who is injured and a way to heal them or command scientist followers to keep the party healthy.
Dang, imagine showing up to Nihilanth's chamber with a small army of middle-aged lab-coat-wearing professionals from various fields of science and medicine each accompanied by at least 1 or more personal security guards.
You'd almost certainly need special npc ai orders for the npcs to take cover at whatever worldbrush the player's reticle was pointing at.
I hope they chat with each other. Big group conversations sound funny once you get like 20+ people lol
Edit: Also, rescue the hanging scientist in the elevato barrel-of-monkeys style, have all 20 of your people chain hands together and make a goofy people-bridge that he lands on. It'd be crazy animation effort but the gag would be so worth it and it'd surprise the player so much lol. I could see vinny playing this, just to try and save everybody, and then the horde of scientists do a goofy coordinated stunt like a colony of ants just to add one to the group, lololol.
I think for when the HECU arrives, there is some code that allows scientists to pick up dropped weapons.
amazing how this elevates the game
This is seriously incredible. Great work!
Mod to have cpr scientist be able to revive you once after death
You need to port the "Move NPC to the waypoint" from Sven Coop IMHO.
LOL @ 6:50. So, did the sheer tonnage of that grenade push that box up against a headcrab, and break it?!
Let me guess: the headcrab survived being used as a wall. No way to tell after the explosion went off, but I'd say it's a safe bet. Gotta love Source logic.
I love the little touches you made for consistency :0
8:04 I beat the game twice, about to beat it again and I didn't know you could do that, or is that just a part of the mod?
It's in half life
I'm watching it over again and I'm thinking -- the lack of many scientist models in the og Half-Life is really brought to attention in this mod. It also makes it difficult to recognize CPR Guy. Would it be possible to make it so scientists could spawn and get randomized with something like another color of pants, or without their labcoat? Even just adding those two with the existing faces should add a good bit of variety.
You should have a mattress that you can throw underneath the elevator guy
Cant wait for this to release, this was literally my dream when i was a kid
I would love if you could save the laser-half barney by grabbing him and getting him out of the way before he gets chopped, and bringing the CPR scientist.
That sounds really cool, I'll see if I get it working
@@teamclown755And maybe same to scientists that are hanging in vents/ceilings? Like you press use button fast enough on them and it causes them to do dropping down sequence
As someone who made jumping, falling, climbing, etc work for their own Source Engine mod, I must say, bravo for the great idea and implementation. Making the animations work smoothly is a pain in the ass.
what if there wasn't friendly fire, they stopped refusing to take another step, and scientists could heal others
I broke down laughing when the scientists and security guards are jumping like Minecraft characters!
Having an Advanced NPC AI mod for a 25 year old video game is impressive
Tell the ladder guy to accept his fate
*c1a0_sci_catscream*