Colored Pencils, Don't Get Ripped Off
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- There is nothing I hate more than false advertising or advertising that makes you feel stupid. I got a bit mean girl after finding several of them on Amazon.
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That blunt honesty is just the new yorker that never left and I love it. Love to be informed like this.
I will always be a New Yorker no matter where I live. I dream in NY.
Yeah, just what the world needs, another rude person.
@@ColorMyWorld Being a New Yorker is not an excuse for being rude, especially when you don't know what or who you're talking about. New Yorker or not, rude is still rude, and has nothing to do with honesty.
Contrary to those who use being a New Yorker as an excuse for being rude, a great many people in New York are actually nice and kind. It's only the minority of rude ones who use it as an excuse.
Be honest all you want, but when you complain about how promotional language is used by someone not even born here, it says nothing about them, and everything about you. I know they don't give a rat's behind about what you think, whether it's the language they use, or your opinion about their pencils, which is really not at all well informed, or about your website, though politeness won't let them say so, but this kind of childish rudeness is still what's wrong with this world.. I somehow doubt you've ever been to China from the truly odd things you say about things made there.
I do know these are some of the nicest, kindest, hardest working people anywhere, and they deserve better than to have someone like you making fun of what they wrote. That you're bitter and disillusioned doesn't mean everyone is. That you're rude doesn't mean everyone is, and that you're from New York doesn't help. It just gives all the nice, kind people in Newe York a bad name.
And the way you think you can tell that two brands are really the same brand is the strangest thing of all. It just doesn't work that way. Your microscope needs a new lens, or something. There is no possible way of tell anything with a microscope. I know where most f these companies have their pencils made. I've watched them, and fountain pens, and pocketknives, and a couple of other things, being made.
All companies copy. They just do. This is how business works. In China, this is an art form. But copying, even when the copy is exact except for the color of the barrel, or the words on the barrel, still does not mean two brands are the same one, or even exactly the same thing. Even if the pigment is the same, even if the formula is the same, they still aren't automatically the same brand, or even the same pencil. Even if the packaging is identical except for the brand name, it does not mean it's the same company that used the packaging under a different name. This is sometimes the case, but far more often one has nothing to do with the other.
Copying packaging design is even more common than copying the product.. This, too, is expected, and a company doing better than yours would actually be insulted if you didn't copy them as much as possible. I've seen the heads of companies go crazy when told that no one was copying their packaging, or their product. There is a limit, of course, but that limit can come very close to trademark infringement anywhere else, before a complaint is made. Or before money changes hands, which is often why the copying happened in the first place.
Too, companies do keep old packaging and change the brand name, but companies also sell their designs to other companies, then change their own design. Or sometimes just keep it. No one minds, as long as the brand name is different, and money has changed hands.
I'm not as fond of Markart as you are, not because they're bad pencils, they aren't, but because they test no better than other brands costing a good bit less. In fairness, I use a Caran d'Ache Luminance and Faber[Castell Polychromos for most things, and Prismacolor for the rest, but I also have a fair number of Chinese Brands, so I', no stranger to their overall quality.
Most Chinese pencils, whether colored or graphite, are pretty good, and the difference if often no more than personal preference. Even lightfastness is a nonissue. The Chinese don't even know whether their pencils are or aren't lightfast. They don't test them, partly because of expense, and largely because a very sizable portion of the world just doesn't care on way or the other.
Direct sunlight is what causes almost all fading, and much of the world thinks you have to be an idiot to hang any art in direct sunlight. They proudly point to art that is not lightfast, but that has survived centuries without fading, and question the sanity of demanding lightfastness.
Google will tell you that colored pencils for art didn't come along until well into the twentieth century, but pigment and wax, and oil and pigment, often in pencil form, have been around for millennia. When you follow these millennia old formulas, you'll find yourself holding a colored pencil. "Coloring" is the right term only for those who use coloring books. "Drawing" or "painting" are now accepted terms for those doing original art. This is good. I don't color pictures. I draw/paint original art. Such drawings/paintings have been around for at leas fifteen hundred years without significant fading.
As for real or fake, there is one way, and one way ONLY, to determine whether something is a fake, and that is to ask the company that supposedly made it. Websites and "experts", who are almost always pseudo-experts, are wrong more often than they're right. How do you know someone isn't a real expert? It's simple, they tell you to look at this, look at that, or I did this, and I tested that, etc. Real experts just ask the company.
I don't care which brand of pencil it is, Derwent, Prismacolor, Caran d'Ache, Crayola, or Castle Art, the only possible way to tell whether it's the real thing or a fake is to ask the company. That's it. Period.
@@jamesaritchie1 I swear not trying to be mean, but a lot of companies don't know how to tell the truth, its ONLY about making the MONEY for THEM.
I paid $27 in December. I got them on Amazon. A lot of companies are taking advantage of adults endless abilities to buy pencils. We thank you for investigative reporting. 👍😍
I wondered about the derwent student pencils. Some are made in india. They are not branded like the other products. I love their arist grade pencils tho! I will never understand why awesome companies risk their reputation on crappy student grade lines. So sad. Thanks for taking one for the team!
Lindsay I was shocked. I never expected it. I saw they were black barrel but they put up a video with the person's hand covering the pencil. From sight it looked like that typical soft derwent look. I didn't even question it. When I got the pencils I was like WTF. Since they have 2 student grades I bought the middle one. I can't imagine what the bottom grade is like. I really have to stay away from 3.3mm cores. I rarely like them.
Hmm that is a good question. Maybe it's to dip into the poorer artist or beginners market. Beginner artists don't know a lot and so standards are low for supplies.
@@ladyseshiiria I have thought about this for years. When my daughter was really young and showing an interest in art we bought her good supplies. Our rational for that was while learning and making mistakes using cheap material would only inhance her mistakes. This could leave her feeling frustrated when the fault was actually the supplies. Back then Prismacolors were 300 for the 72 box.
I ordered the 72 set for 14.99 USD, just now, WOWZA. Fingers crossed they will be good as they sound.
Thank you for the video! My Mark it set is coming today , so I'm really glad I got your stamp of approval on them. The way some of these companies describe their pencils is just hilarious! I'm glad we have you in our corner keeping us updated, and informed. It is so helpful.
I'm so done with pencils made in China FOR EVER, not going to buy a single one anymore. Don't need this drama not knowing what you get and Chinese sellers taking us for fools with fancy words of orient and castles and what ever, bunch of bs. I have a full set of Polychromos love them. Want some wax based too so going to invest in Caran d' Ache Luminance. Best thing they are both available open stock in my country (Finland) so no need to buy whole set when I run out of one pencil. Thank you so much Lori for all the work you are doing for us ❤️
I'm with you! I have a set of Faber Castell Classics for travel, but other than that I save my money for Polychromos.
Think there's enough drama in the world with the Covid situation just don't want or need to have any "pencil drama", coloring is supposed to be relaxing and enjoyable. I intend to keep it that way. Happy coloring to us all 🤗
Seriously, I am not inclined to trust pencils made in China in general, because toxic ingredients are often right there with the pigments. I am not saying all Chinese brand's would be toxic, but too many of them are, as far as I am concerned.
I love blunt honesty!! I respect it. I don't do sugar coated sh!+. Ty for taking the time to do all this. It is truly appreciated.
You are awesome. Tell it how it is girl. I live not far from Derbyshire in the UK and I’ve been to Derwent museum and I love their Coloursoft, Drawing, Chromaflow, Inktence and china white. You’re right. The Academy line is CRAP! I’ll even say S**T! I even told them so and one of the staff there agreed.
Thank you Darryl!
Lol the drama of it all! I’m for whatever is quality for the cheapest price . Someone should do an art show called “saved a dime” with high quality art in pencil drawings without disclosing the joke lol. I wonder if you could “watercolor “ with those
GIRL!!!!!! You are in so much trouble. Get your ass on the phone and call me!!! I was ready to send out the hounds and drag you out! How is school :)
Just an FYI, The Faber castell classics are children's grade. Anything in the red packaging in Faber Castell is children's grade. The Goldfarber line is FC's student/crafter grade
"Children's Grade and "Student Grade" really have very little meaning where quali9ty of the pigment and actual usage are concerned. Very often, it's just the type of wood, the type of barrel paint, lightfastness the level of quality control, and the manufacturing location that cause one set to be cheaper than another. This sounds like a lot, but it really isn't much at all with some brands. The Faber-Castell reds are all exceptionally good, right up there close to pro grade. The same is true with Prismacolor. Don't let "For Children" scare you away from a great set of pencils.
I purchased the Derwent Academy pencils for a real cheap price of $12.99. Thought I scored big as I love Derwent. However as you said they are horrible. I gave them to my four year old grandson. They were so bad thst the black paint is peeling off the barrels. Thank you for all you do. I enjoy your videos and learn so much. 💖🇨🇦
Lori you are very thorough and very smart. These companies prey on people's ignorance. They are not used to dealing with intelligent females such as yourself. Whatever you bring to their attention is fine with me. Im standing behind your tests and findings. Your their nightmare artist. I love it.
I am here for my Subscribers and not pencil companies. If they are good, they are good. If there is a problem then I say it. I am pretty impartial. I will never recommend any budget pencil over a professional one, but reality is many people can't afford 100 for pencils. They should be getting their money's worth even if they are struggling.
Okay, I'm late to the show. I've just begun this new hobby called " adult coloring". The number of colored pencil sets to choose from out there is nothing less than staggering. A friend from work suggested your channel to help me discern between the good, the not-worth-it, and the truly bad. Well, I love your channel! it has been more than helpful and by following your suggestions I have a nice selection of coloring pencils that have, so far, not disappointed. But the best part of finding your channel is your honest opinions and sense of humor. Love it!! Thank you so much for sharing!
Ken, better late than never, welcome and thank you.
🤣🤣🤣 I love your reviews and honesty.I also love that you call out the manufacturer’s for what they really are. I’m now confused as to which pencil set to buy. I’ve been looking at the SJ Star Joy 120 pencil set as well as the 72 deli and the Nyoni. Are they all the same pencil?
No they aren't the same but I like all 3 of the sets. There seems to be two types of pencils coming out in China. The black barrel and the plain no frills ones are cheap and while they will go on vibrant you will see how you layer that they are cheap. The second group is much better. You can instantly feel the higher quality. The St Joy, Deli and Nyoni are in that group. I also like Art n Fly and Marco Renui. Keep in mind they are all on the Budget level so they aren't going to be Prisma, Polychromos , Derwent etc. They are still good pencils for the money.
@@ColorMyWorld ok next question 🙋🏻♀️ if you had to choose out of those 3 brands I’ve mentioned, which one ☝🏽 would you personally choose and why?
@@kel06901 If I were only allowed to pick one, I probably would choose Deli. I see very little difference between them and Polychromos. This isn't to say the other pencils aren't good. I use all of them.
I absolutely love my Faber Castell Classic pencils. I am so glad you showed them in your video. Ali Hader uses them in a lot of his videos. It is amazing what can be accomplished with them. Happy I didn’t have my bubble burst twice. After your video on Arteza , I don’t plan on purchasing a replacement set in the future. I am happy I got the “good” set but for nonprofessional supplies they are overpriced. Always look forward to your videos and now look forward to Kristopher’s as well.
They aren't even that over priced for a budget pencil. If you are spending under 50, they are a great quality for your money. They aren't a substitute for the real deal, but you certainly can do a lot with them. The packaging isn't that good so I have to get something to keep them in.
I like them , but I am finding out I don’t always know what I will do with my work until afterwards. I did a coloring page of poppies ( I posted it on your Facebook page.) with Prismacolor.I did the page to work on my blending and using multiple colors to create depth. My daughter saw it and wanted it so I sprayed a workable fixative on the green foliage that I wasn’t happy with, colored it some more, sprayed a final fixative on it, had it matted and framed, and it’s on a wall in her house. If I had done the poppies with Arteza I don’t think I would have been able to do all the fixative.Besides I got the 120 set at a great price when they were first being introduced. The Arteza current prices aren’t that much lower than a Prismacolor Premier set of a comparable count. Might as well add a few dollars and get a quality product .
F A B E R C A S T E L L is a wonderful high quality brand.
I bought a set of what were supposed to be Brutfuner 120 Oily pencils from Wish. The box I received were labelled as Dilirang Colored Pencils 120 Oily pencils from China. Have you ever heard of this brand? There are no names for any of the colors, just numbers starting at 4001 and up. I haven’t had a chance to swatch them yet but hope to get to that in the next few days.
faber castell is an amazing brand
Glad the Prismas are real. I ordered them because this set is cheaper than replacing individual pencils and I was worried about getting knockoffs. Lot of knockoffs these days!
Lori, the logo side looks like a dupe on the MITSUBISHI UNI COLORED PENCILS. This is not funny but I'm lol. Thanks for sharing.
Ok I looked into it further. I thought Mitsubishi pencils were up there with the Holebein quality. Both from Japan. This is 100% Chinese but the markings are similar in design to Mitsubishi. So this company designed a perfectly good brand of pencil and turned it into a Frankenstein made from Nyoni, Mitsubishi and Arteza.
@@ColorMyWorld I have the Uni Posca 36, and I just bought the tiny 12 tin of Holbein pastels. I wasn’t that impressed with the Holbein, they’re nice but nothing special. The Uni Posca are just as nice.
Those Faber Castell Classic are among the best for layering. It’s crazy, I have all staedtler, Stabilo and many others in this price range and the classic blows them all out the window. I’ve had them around my house for years and never used them. They belonged to school children. Then I tried them, WoW!!! No one needs Verithin if you have these brands. BTW, staedtler design journey is the set you need.
I was so entertained by you that I forgot your advice! Now I have to rewatch!!!!
LOL, I actually get on my own nerves watching my videos.
@@ColorMyWorld ❤️new sub to you Lady!
@@braided4780 So happy to have you. It's a friendly channel.
Lol
Love this! I’m a former New Yorker! The book is to detailed to me but I’m glad you brought up pencils not always being the real deal, esp on Amazon.
If you watch Sarah Renae Clark’s video about the Markart, Kalour, and Soucolor pencils she thought the same thing but she contacted the manufacturer and found out what exactly what was up with those pencils. It’s a good watch I definitely recommend it!
I already knew from the manufacturers that Markart is not the same as Kalour and Soucolor. It's the way the market in China works. I have a video about it too. Markart is 100% not Kalour or Soucolor. Soucolor and Kalour are from the same place. Markart comes from a much better quality line of pencils but all three are copies of other pencils. There are two types of manufacturers in China. One makes the pencils from materials from other manufacturers. This is why all the colors from these brands are so similar. Sometimes they sell whole pencils with different printing. You can get the boxes made to look anyway you want. Same pencils. Many products on Amazon are like that. It's called white labeling. It happens with electronic equiptment all the time. Identical products sold by different people in different packages. Star- Joy comes from Andy's original pencils. There is nothing stopping him from white labeling them under different packaging, but the original will always be Star-Joy.
@@ColorMyWorld oh ok, thanks for the heads up and for sharing! I’m new to the whole coloring world and there’s just so much stuff out there it’s hard to tell sometimes what’s good and what’s bs!
Is there like a blogpost which has all the names of the pencils that are all the same? Cus it be nice so you dont keep buying the same pens but with different names. Saving some money is always nice.
There is a lot of pirating going on, I think. As popular as coloring has become, the budget pencil brand's must be up to something crazy behind the scenes. By the way, if someone feels it necessary to put the word expert on their product, it probably isn't.
Amazon Basics pencils 72 for $13 to $14. They perform well, if Amazon made larger sets many others wouldn’t sell.
These Chinese companies need to hire someone with better understanding of English language and American aesthetics, if they are interested in anything more than making a quick buck.
The names on the Markart are the same as Arteza names.
The whole thing is copied from other pencils in the hopes of getting noticed and all they had to do was show what their pencils can do. They stole the logo from Arteza, Package top from Prismacolor and pencil design from Mitsubishi Uni. I am about to name them the Frankenstein Pencil.
For me the Nyoni and the Arteza pencils are similar in the feeling. The wood is similar, core size also. I like both.
The Nyoni 120 comes with a sharpener, but this sharpeners hole is to small for every pencil, you can not use it🥴
That's interesting I don't find them to be alike at all.
@@c.1007 it depends on the paper.
when you use both next to each other on the same paper there is no difference. When you hold them close next to each other, they look the same, the wood color and the core and the line of the barrel, where the varnish begins looks the same
Thank you so much for the heads up on the Prismas! I ordered from the UK and even with shipping it’s really cheap!
I've been experimenting with all my colored pencils to see if they are dissolving in a water. My collection has Prismas, Faber Castels, and now MarkArt. The first 2 are old, at least 3 years old, and MarkArt I got today. All of them are dissolving. And not to a degree, pretty much like Arteza in your test. So, it got me wondering why yours were not and mine were? I've decided to see how that differ based on the type of the paper and I got interesting results. If i do it on the printing paper - none of the colors leaks. On watercolor paper - everything runs, on mixed media paper - everything is dissolving but at a different degree. Colored pencil paper - just a bit. Wondering if anybody else had done something similar and what results they got.
I will no longer buy off of Amazon. Nothing but rip-offs and knockoffs, lost enough of my hard-earned money. From now on, I purchase directly from the manufacturer or in store. But that's just me, to each their own. Great video!
I so agree. I hate the fact that Amazon has become the new Wish. It's still possible to spot the "Wish crap" among normal quality products but definitely not worth my time to try and sift through a thousand fakes and Wish items before finding an actually good product.
I bought the prisma color scholar and they are great!
I just received this set today and I have to tell you these are FABULOUS!!!! I cannot believe it, they are every bit as creamy as my Polychromos! Thank you, thank you sooo much for the heads up on these. 🥰
I love watching your videos for the information but I have to admit but I was SO entertained by this one!! Thank you for being you and thank you for all that you do to keep us informed, educated (and entertained).
I went and bought the markart like you said until the naomi's are back in stock. I tried them today and i really like them! Thanks for sharing these on your last video where our last conversation was..
Thank heaven for your microscopic examination of ALL of these pencil sets! Ridic!!! Does Andy have a time estimate on when the Delis will be back in? Because... guess what asinine thing I did? Ended up canceling my order for them. I decided I had spent so much money that week that I sort of "chickened out". And now, for a business purpose rather than simply coloring, I find myself in desperate need of a very wide variety of pencils, including a nice variety of skin tones. Soooo, I guess I'll try to beat the rush for the Delis.... again.🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
@@lindam.6782 I hope you love them!!!! I ordered at the same time you did... and then turned around and canceled the order shortly afterward (see comment above). So now I'm at the mercy of the Chinese NY and the company producing them🤷🏼♀️
These may very well be quality pencils. The reason why they went through all the effort and cost to re-package and re-label is to avoid getting sued. Same thing with electric guitar pedals; Black market Chinese clones that look and sound the same at 1/4 of the price (and yes, some are actually quite good..) . If you manufacture a product in China, expect black market infiltration in your production lines. They're actually quite smart. By buying these pencils, you, your viewers and Amazon are PHYSICALLY stealing from the original manufacturer's factory production line, and slapping a different, cheaper label. When people realise the quality, the pice goes up. This is theft and awesome congats, you have uncovered fraud! If this continues, the original manufacturer will go out of business from lost sales. It really comes down to your conscience. We live in a world of abundance, but we're not willing to pay for it. Thank you for bringing this to my attention as I do not support thieves.
I just got mine in the mail, aside from what you noticed about the tin top - I saw a glaring typo. Along the tin top, in the yellow/orange bar it says "Astist Quality" - guessing they meant "artist quality" ha ha. Anyway, I'm very excited to try them. :)
Very cool! You nailed that too LOL LOL. I missed that one.
I just got my Markart pencils today! And I love them, glad I bought them,it was the 48 set! I got them for $13.99 plus free 2 day delivery with Prime.
Did you notice on the Markart pencils that there is 2 numbers? For instance, N037 is at the top of the pencil, and then on the barrel of the pencil next to where it says colored pencils, there's another number,, and it's M8606 both are Peacock Blue 💙
Hello lovely mean girl! Faber Castell manufactures the artist line like Polychromos and Albrecht Dürer in Germany for sure. I live in Germany and pass by their factory many times. Do you happen to have a video on the difference between the Deli/Nyoni pencils and the Star Joys? Love your reviews! Hug from across the pond!
Deli / Nyoni and Star-joy are all from different manufactuers. Deli is the oldest I believe and from what I learned Nyoni copied the Deli pencils. That's why they are so alike. Star-joy is Andy's Manufacturer. He is the CEO there. He just began the Star-joy line but will probably be changing it because he really wants to produce a budget friendly pencil with all the things us colorists like and none of the things that drive us crazy. I am not sure how he is going to package etc. I will be talking to him after the 20th. He is on Vacation now along with his whole country. Something about a Spring festival.
@@ColorMyWorld It's the Chinse New Year. Most companies in China will shuts down for about a week or two.
It's not a big mystery. It's called private labeling. The same factory makes tons of pencils and anyone can buy them and brand them and sell them under their own brand name. That's why Nyomi pencils are sold by tons of brands.
So Nyomi, Markart and Deli are the same pencils? I just received the latter 2 and I'm loving them.
No they are different but similar. Watch my China video. That would explain how the manufacturing works. The companies can be using the same cores, barrels etc. Anyway you look at it, these 3 are among the best as far as budget pencils go.
You crack me up!! I bet you're soo much fun to hang out with! The word "oily" got me giggling. That word shouldn't be used to describe any pencil in my opinion....even if it were an oil pencil. I think the only thing worse than being lied to by any company is one that believes consumers are stupid and gullible. Thanks Lori!
I bought the Deli color pencil 72 set and they bleed like crazy. Luckely I do not spray or use solvent so I do not care. They are very vibrant and pigmented. They do need a bit of work, but the result is beautiful. I use them only for JB coloring books. By the way, the paperquality varies too in these books, so not in every book they perform equal.
They've gone up in price again: $18.99. I got a set before they go higher even though I have a lot of pencils from different makers. I'm going to test the water solubility on my other pencils per your wonderfully instructive video on Artezas. I almost bought them and so glad I saw your video first. You are a god-send for we colorists!
I have Nyoni and MarkArt both. Why are my Nyoni’s so much smoother and creamier than MarkArts if they are the same company? There is a distinct difference in the way they feel when they lay down. I prefer Nyoni. Nyoni’s pigment is amazing for the price!
Different batches. It's a Chinese pencil so they aren't that consistent, but they are 100% the same. Then again, MarkArt might have changed pencils. Markart is just a brand and not a pencil. I haven't bought their pencils for a while.
My first thought. Look like Arteza. Check if they also bleed and dissolve like Arteza.
They don't. It was the first thing I did.
I am a Faber girl so i think i bought more of their brand than aything else, but, i wish they would put names on their student pencils.The classics for overseas called eco pencils have names, so i know it can be done.
I posted the color names for the 60 set on my Amazon review. I just write the name on the pencil with a posca.
@@DD-d6d3 Thank you DD, you are so sweet to want to help. I will go take a look.
$18.99 on Amazon now. This is the second video I have seen on them just today. Both got great reviews. I'm just late to the party.
Sent ya an email think I found the delis from another vendor coming from overseas
It’s called “fast following” which is a term used in economics. An example of fast following would be Honda and Hyundai....... manufacturers model their businesses as an innovation or a fast follower...it’s an economical strategy meant to benefit from the Goodwill of a more popular brand.
You make me chuckle, love your brilliant reviews :)
The Chinese pencils, I am not surprised they can either be good or bad, no surprise, but Derwent, that one is a surprise!
I have a set of Staedtler Noris Club, they are crap! Not even a kid would enjoy them!
Hopefully you’ll soon return to tutorials with the good pencils (Deli and Nyomi) you’ve found! because swatches can be deceiving. Let’s see them used to color an entire page! 😍😍😍
Maybe you can ask Andy to place them in Amazon international! Otherwise, I may have to order these from AliExpress and hope they are not ruined during the 90 day transit!
I am working on a demo and a tutorial now. I needed a little break from it, but I am ready to get coloring again.
I noticed that there are sooooo many colored pencil brands on Amazon.
i enjoy your videos tremendously!! Thanks as well for always giving us a good laugh during your reviews. You're amazingly talented as well!!
I'm not surprised other companies do this..
I picked up the Markart pencils and thought they were ok. Some were scratchy, and I’d sometimes have that problem where I’m coloring, and a little grain of another color is in the pencil? Like, I’m coloring with pink, and suddenly there’s a tiny hard scratch of blue. But some of the pencils did feel really nice and smooth.
HI , I just watched this - a bit late admittedly - and its a very honest video and i respect your point of view and have made some valid points but have to disagree with you on others. Being a Brit i have grown up with Derwent as a luxury x mas/b'day present. The cheaper options being wh smiths and staedtler. So to hear you disparaging Derwent academy when you don't appear to have used them. i am lucky enough to now own the grown up 72 sets and love them. As well as the 4 sets of 24 drawing graphitint, tinited charcoal and graphite sketching.. i like the weight of them and feel, maybe you got a bad batch.
Now I could state without proof that the "Beloved" Prisma colour" premier are over hyped, over priced, shoddily manufactured - outside of USA - Mexico i believe Now i cannot honestly say .i have used them because of the prohibitive cost of shipping to the UK. Nor am i able to sample the various black barrels i have seen yourself and others use namely, starjoy, nyoni, & markat for the same reasons. i like Faber Castell, so not surer if you have reviewed Goldfaber?
But i will continue to watch your videos and learn from you amongst others colouring techniques. i am by no way a professional artist and maybe i am missing something with the cheaper brands. You probably don't have them where you live but i wonder if you'd be interested in either the wh smiths pencils or a newish budget brand. They are Decotime and come in a triangular barrel. and come in a range of sizes and colours. So any way thanks again for the videos and sorry if im watching them out of order.
In general I love Derwent pencils, but the academy were over priced for a kids pencil. In comparison to the scholar pencils from polychromos it's a big difference, but in general Derwent is among my favorite pencils. I have several different sets plus I use the Derwent Chinese White and Ivory black all the time.
Omg that's hilarious 🤣 😆 😂 how many names do they name them that's so crazy how they try to mock pencils then if they are the real thing they change their packaging and raise the prices it's just hilarious they probably do get people to buy them unfortunately when they can find cheaper prices. Thanks Lori for helping everyone out not to get ripped off. We truly appreciate your help. Even though I still can't color I have kept all your videos so whenever I can I will be able to watch them again. I had a cardiac cath 2 weeks ago now going to a pulmonary doctor to look into more problems I'm having hopefully can get to feeling better then have my surgery on my hands and arms to get back to coloring again hopefully by fall this year will be in better shape to start practicing again. 🙏
II just totally LOVE being in the know!!! TYSVM!!!
Aaahhhh stop…..Derwent Academy has sets of both poly and watercolours in tins of 36.
I bought the Markart 48 and the Prismacolor 21 sets and bought them again today. Prismacolor, of course is good and so is Markart. Markart is amazing and comparable to Prismacolor in my experience. What a great deal Markart is. Thank you for the tips on these, I am so happy and only did a couple of swatch tests on Markart. I don't care about the advertising but the number has a "N" in front of it, could this "N" mean Nyomi? Maybe Nyomi was not doing as well as they wanted. I am so happy with these sets and your recommendations. Thank you!
I have watched a lot of different colored pencil reviews here on TH-cam. One thing I have noticed everyone has a different opinion on different brands from inexpensive to expensive. The only thing I have seen that has been consistent is arteza brand colored pencils. But, the reason I say this I think it’s funny that everyone thinks they are right when it’s all subjective. I do agree on the manufacturing though.
You can get 120 for $29.99
I would not pay 17 for 48 pencils I have gotten to many good deals on amazon for 72 for under 20
@@lindam.6782 I want those square pencils..I want the deli too but Im happy with the starjoys
@@angelam1560 could you do me a favour and try to describe the difference between the starjoys and the delis to me? The hardness, layering, blending, reaction to oms and so on? Much appreciated!
@@marvelenia6702 I dont have the deli yet it will take a good deal for me to buy them..but every one I know says they are the same but the two differences is you get more colors with the starjoy and that the leads of the deli are thicker. Ive has half a dozen tell me the exact same thing..and its people I trust I just want the deli to cover more area quicker so If I cant get a super good deal I will skip them
@@angelam1560 ok thanks a lot! I thought that one was wax and one was oil but that is not the case. Thanks a million!
@@lindam.6782 Im sitting here coloring with them right now and they have a lot of pigment, maybe they were just getting started back them companies have growing pains all the time but these 120 set in the tin are nice or at least I think so now dont get me wrong they are not soft as prisma but I think the colors are brighter
I've never been disappointed in a Faber Castell product! The kid's grade Classics are my go to for cheaper pencils. And the goldfaber are really good wax pencils. I like them better than Prisma and wish they'd expand the color range.
I just discovered the Goldfaber this week. I love them so much. They remind me of the Prismas from the 70's and 80’s that are my favourite, not as soft as the Premier but creamy and pigmented.
I don’t know if I want to be transformed with fairy dust and sent on a colored rainbow to the Chinese Royal Paradise.
Thank you so much for your video.
Just subbed.
This markart sells for over a hundred euros here on Amazon. For that money I can buy a tin of 60 Faber Castell.
This is on Amazon in Europe in January 2023.
Faber Castell is getting copied by an Asian company - so they are most likely counterfeit as per my conversation with a Faber-Castell customer service person...I purchased some Derwent watercolor pencils recently and they were so NOT authentic. Their barrels were full of splinters covered with paint, their letdown was scratchy and their pigments were poor. Totally not DERWENT! So anything we get online from dealers from who knows where, are often not the real thing.
hmmm .....maybe the y are not a duplicate at all. what if they are a sublabel/sub brand of Arteza, or whomever?
Many brands do do that. Push their high level brand name and at the same time a "no-Name" budget item, which in fact is the exact same product
with only different labels on it. the most famous cases I remember is of a very well known jeans Company who does that.
Lol 😆 Or they think we're stupid. Sadly, probably... A lot of companies make money off of cheap scammy items. Fly by night stuff. You see a lot of it on Amazon.
I'm quite new to this, when you talk about Naomi pencils I have no clue what that means. Is this Naomi a good brand? I am in Australia so maybe these aren't available here, never heard of them. Thanks for the review!
Nyoni, hope that helps
Don't stop now gurl - YOU are on a brilliant roll! The China pencil manufacturing world are So missing it if they aren't tuning in! So one please tell them to buy a vowel, tune into Lori's channel & figure it out!
They don't need vowels. The rude people here need to learn manners, and the Chinese pencil world doesn't give a rat's behind about what TH-cam channels like this one has to say. As soon as you get rude, they tune out, and rightfully so. And "girl" is spelled withan "i", not a "u".
Most Scholar Faber Castel - which this red box indicates is made here in Brazil. It’s children’s color pencils. And I learned that Crayola is made here as well by Faber Castell. But it doesn’t sell here, well it does the 36 colors but it’s rare and it’s imported. I don’t get WHY Crayola is cheap dirt in US and here is really expensive. It’s kinda funny. Well, Faber Castell is better in my opinion. Particularly the watercolor one. And you have that Crayola with the black body like is a Crayola for adults. I had to laugh. It’s a really common Faber Castell pencil here. I mean... it’s identical. And here is cheaper. It’s so crazy this market. Sometimes I think that they forget that the internet exists and people change countries and buy duplicated sets in this confusion (a friend did that. That’s why I know is the same pencil).
Hi there, just remebered, have you tried the budget lines of Lyra (Osiris) or Bruynzeel (Expressions)? They may be hard to find but are quite good...
I have just seen both Deli and Nyoni pencils on Banggood. Do you have experience buying from them? If you had to pick one of those brands, which would you buy? I truly appreciate all the time you spend to research these products and report to us.
I just canceled my order from there. Get them on Amazon so they come fast and are guaranteed no hassel return. This is also the best deal around. They are 100% Nyoni. The 72 Deli deal is also the best deal around at 29 dollars.
@@ColorMyWorld Thanks for answering. Just put in my order for the 72 Deli set on Amazon. Now I can't watch your reviews anymore for fear of temptation! Haha!!!
@@hberbac838 You can't leave. I still haven't taught how to use them properly. LOL
@@ColorMyWorld Okay, you 'sold' me! See what I mean...till next time!
They were up to 16$ yesterday or the day before when I bought the 72# set , so as I said before was thinking of getting the 48 set as they’re not open stock,19$ now I just got them anyway still a good price my dumb ass should’ve got them at 13$ oh well , I’m going by your video and how good they are I went on another reliable you tube pencil artist for brutfuner square 120, and along with my many very high end supplies I am in love with the brutfuner set I got, I may have got a different high number set of crap pencils for the price or amount of pencils. But because of reliable and awesome u tubers who take the time to do the research and knowledge to take the time to do it for us I’m happy with my purchases I’m betting I’m going to love the mark art or whoever the hell makes them lmao , because of the awesome job you do and did ! Thank uou! So now I’ll have backups ty, Deb Viner
Now I’m glad I snapped up a set,it comes tomorrow.
I am so done with cheap pencils.
I am up to my ears in wood kindling too but some of them are really good. It's weeding through the muck to find the good stuff is hard.
Thanks for a great video! I wonder if the Derwent Academy are supposed to be a cheaper version of their Studio pencils which are like the Prisma Verithin? Good for detailing, but not for full out coloring. Since I started using my Studios in that manner, I've been much happier with their performance. Have a great day!
Verithins aren't a cheap version of Prisma. Verithins is a line of pencils as old as Prisma themselves. There are two uses but Verithins are always cast aside as the ugly step child. Verithins are their hard wax meant for details. Prismas are for blending but many people only use the Prismas. This is why it's a good idea to have both Prismas and some sort of oil pencil with good pigment. Soon I'll be teaching a technique of coloring that requires both.
@@ColorMyWorld I fully understand the Verithins aren't a cheaper version of Prisma pencils. I'm wondering if Derwent didn't create a cheaper version of the Derwent Studio in the Academy line. I don't know of any knockoffs that work as the Verithin/Studio do for details. Could the Academy fill that role for the budget minded?
@@Melinda-S No, Verithins match the colors of Prismacolor so you can do hard smooth edges. The Derwent is just garbage pencils.
@@ColorMyWorld Fair enough. Thanks!
These videos are good for information, but I miss coloring and lessons. 🥺
Next video is a coloring one.
@@ColorMyWorld 🙏🏻😊
I have 48 Creyart pencils. Very very nice.
You must be drowning in pencils by now.
I have been playing tetras with them. I have to get organized because it's driving me crazy.
I'm from Staten Island. What part of NY borough did you live in
Not to be rude but I think you are confusing MarkArt with Makartt.
Makartt is the company that sales nail extensions, nail polish and nail accessories. Makartt does not sale art supplies at all, they only sale nails & lashes!
White MarkArt is a completely different company.
I also got the deal Prismacolor and so glad I did. Book is so so. Thanks. Also got the Markart pencils. And I don’t need any more pencils.
I say I don't need any more pencils every time I push the button to order more pencils. I swore off them last week. I have one set coming tomorrow, one on Tuesday and one from Aliexpress coming when it gets here.
Good morning! Just caught up with this. I had to pause the video on the list of colours, so I can copy the names out for my set lol. Oh and by the way, the numbers match the Nyoni pencils, starting with the "N" for Nyoni oil. Nyoni watercolour pencil numbering starts with an "S". Go figure. I will have to find your magic app for translating Chinese, as I have ONE Nyoni colour chart with Chinese script that I'd like to translate to English. I emailed the company to ask if they could possibly put out a colour chart in English, haven't heard back. Maybe you could persuade them to do this? Fantastic job on the video. Also I laughed out loud when you got to the fancy box of Deli pencils. I did my research when I bought my 72's, and was torn between the fancy box and the ordinary. They are still around the same price on AliEpress, which does not hide the fact that they are Deli pencils. They actually say they ARE Deli pencils, Summer Palace Series, but only the box has changed. ROTFLMAO. Go girl!
I actually know several fine artists who work in colored pencil who refer to their works as paintings. Lisa at Lachri Fine Art is one.
I think it's because she blends her layers with solvent and a brush. When I use PanPastels and watercolor pencils as underpainting then I don't feel like it's right to call my colored pencil work a drawing either.
Artists who use pastels call it painting too.
Arteza just popped out if no where and became really popular overnight. I thought and hoped they would be good. But it just appears to be another fly by night company wanting to make money quick before they're found out on broken promises.
I never bought anything from them since they were pushing their products so aggressively by sending it out to so many youtubers for free. I just do not like that kind of "marketing". Still glad I did not get those pencils.
I got the 120 arteza pencils for $35 in their back to school sale which I think was a good value.
But at $70-$75 or whatever they are now I’m like “???” Insane.
They’ve definitely pushed their product through influencers depending more on that social networking than letting their products speak for themselves.
I hope they are bought down a notch or two with all these people speaking out now but it doesn’t seem like that will happen either.
I have it on good authority that they know my name LOL
I have those Derwent Academy and I agree, they suck!!!
Not impressed they are now 131.00 pounds for 120 on Amazon uk I will not be buying them anytime soon
Hi looking for a large oil based set? When do we know the Deli will be in stock? I'm confused between those and the Star Joy. I just discovered you and love your videos!!
I am putting out a video of it Sunday or Monday
I just ordered star joy. I heard good things about it on a coloring group I’m on. Let’s hope the reviews are right :)
Are the Derwent pencils FAKE?
I bought the 72 set of mark art I think I’m gonna buy the 48 to have extras I assume they don’t come open stock lmao, am I correct?
I would go with the 120 because there will be new colors.
Also now that you have them and used them , are they the same as the naomie ones to where not to buy them when they restock? Or do you still suggest getting them per conversation the other day. ?
Identical. They are Nyomi.
@@ColorMyWorld awesome , I will save my money and just stick with these :-). Thanks for the help!!
I love your “mean girl”! ❤️
So markart, nyoni, star-joy, deli and magic nichang are the exact same pencils?
Markart and Nyoni are the same. The magic Nichang is the same as Nyoni and Star-joy is nothing like those. Made from different stuff. Star-joy is ONLY star-joy. Andy the manufacturer does not sell them under any other name. It is the maker of those pencils start to finish. Unique to only him.
Oh, so cool 😎 I got that book with the pencils, I’m a NY girl myself too !!! 👏 TFS sweetie 👍🏼
Thanks for giving us the low down! I appreciate it! Keep em’ honest!
I always will.