Smoky to Smokeless! - Daytime Fire Pit Demo - DIY Smokeless Fire Pit

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  • @maciejjabonski833
    @maciejjabonski833 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once more here. Your two videos about this firepit really helped me with making some key design choices with a project of my own I already had half-done when I saw your videos So helpful! Thank you..

  • @mossman7527
    @mossman7527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was funny! You had me cracking up with your comments 😅

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ahhh yes I forgot what a smartas my editor was…😆

  • @coachmac5858
    @coachmac5858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bro... I made my firepit to your exact design... works like a charm. Burns super hot also. The only thing i didnt do is mortor the caps on the top. But it still burns down to ash in every burn. Thank you for the design brother... salute!!

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome to hear! Cheers to many great nights by the fire!

    • @shonb1921
      @shonb1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here!

  • @HuldraX.
    @HuldraX. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice! Finally someone that looks a little at the science!🤓 A very important detail that nobody else speaks about is the size and number of holes from an air pressure point of view. It stands to reason that larger holes would slow down the convection. Well done mate!

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I don’t claim to be a scientist but I do try to be logical 😁

  • @veritassoundsculpture
    @veritassoundsculpture 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I built this Firepit exactly as you did and it works really well! For a really fast establishing fire with minimal smoke from start to finish I recommend building a solid small kindling log cabin, gradually getting thicker in sticks/thin logs, then build the teepee style around the log cabin with more substantial logs. Suuuuper fast to establish the fire and the log cabin turns into the hot coal pile that feeds the teepee with minimal effort/adjusting. Anyway, thanks for the video on how to build this Firepit. Works really well!

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now THATS a great way to go about the cabin fire method! Gotta make some smaller sticks with the hatchet…it would kick up the fire much faster.

    • @veritassoundsculpture
      @veritassoundsculpture 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jon_Chan for sure. It takes a little more prep time but the result is a lot less monitoring and feeding/adjusting to get the fire established. Hope it helps and we will be premiering our version of your fit pit with friends during the upcoming holiday! Thanks for the video.

  • @thekeckkids2809
    @thekeckkids2809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Jon I built my fire like you did. Didn't touch it until you said to. So hard. So hard! And it was hands down my best fire.

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yea, I usually have to step away a few paces or have a drink in my hand so I don’t mess with the startup. But it’s so worth it isn’t it?! It’s also pretty low effort which I really like.

    • @thekeckkids2809
      @thekeckkids2809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jon_Chan for sure! I'm usually fanning it with a dollar tree pizza pan, haha. I still need to drill my holes a little bigger I think though. It's pretty smokeless but I'm not getting the secondary burn as well as I had hoped.

  • @robwinder4834
    @robwinder4834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    John, thanks for the video (the previous one you did) regarding the Smokeless Fire Pit. Great food for thought!

  • @thekeckkids2809
    @thekeckkids2809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally going to watch the entire thing tonight! Thanks for getting the video made. Our rain has almost stopped and our firepit is about finished, finally!

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL so you wish to accept this mission eh? 😆 mid roll ads were disabled so it doesn’t ruin the ambience.

    • @thekeckkids2809
      @thekeckkids2809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jon_Chan I almost made it while baking cakes! I have to say, your wood stacking and fire skills are great!! I'm trying it out Sunday.

  • @diarmaidok
    @diarmaidok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you could improve the secondary burn easily by putting sand or cement between the bricks on the upper 2 rows of the wall [to seal the cavity feeding hot air into the holes to allow it to be heated more] could probably put some sand

  • @halucinator1
    @halucinator1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. Glad it's still working good. I really want to surprise my father in law with one, but need to get the time to do it.

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s an awesome surprise! I was supposed to build another one but the hardscape is hard to come by at the moment.

  • @bhangchai69
    @bhangchai69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like that you made a point of mentioning the size and spacing of the holes you used. Most of these videos on smokeless fire pits seem to gloss over the details...
    Judging from gasifier stove designs, I think you could use more air flow from the lower holes to support the primary burn. Just off the top of my head, I would try maybe 8 one inch holes spaced around the bottom. As it is, you probably have to get the primary air from over over the top of the fire pit or from the secondary air holes. Some have put a 4 inch pipe providing outside air under the fire but I think more air holes around the bottom would work just as well with less hassle.

  • @jbrondos
    @jbrondos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yours are the best (most efficient) videos on the topic. I'm going to be constructing one soon with the insights you have provided. A couple of questions: (1) How much heat -- or how long does it typically take -- for the fire ring to build up critical heat to start the "jet streams" flowing? (2) Does it matter if you start the wood low and wide or high and narrow?

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Take about 20 mins for sufficient heat to build up and I find high and narrow catches fire quicker. Once it catches and burns till surface is black, I knock it over a bit and push the wood to the ring a little. It makes the ring hotter and powers up the secondary burn more.

  • @kenbolton190
    @kenbolton190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video.....helpful in estimating how mine will burn after assembly. And excellent job with your son! Pretty funny to see him trying to open the gate!!

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Funny enough, the gate now has TWO latches…one was too easy for him to figure out 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @AG-ef4go
    @AG-ef4go 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant wait to do this for the fall. Thank you for showing this and the how-to!

  • @rronmar
    @rronmar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yea, you got a good mix there, but as seen in the end, they need to be full of fire to remain smokeless. Big stuff on top of little fire = long smokey startup. A hint for faster startup is fill the bottom with small fuel. The more surface area the better. My property is mostly forested(fir&cedar) I walk out with a leaf rake and rake up needles, twigs and pinecones and fill it about 1/4-1/2 full of that. I build a small kindling fire on top of that or hit the center with a torch. The fire builds and spreads quickly across the top of the small stuff with little smoke as the fire is on top of the fuel. You could do the same thing with lots of split kindling or maybe even a bucket full of wood pellets… Once fully involved then you start to add the big stuff. Too much wood added too fast will smoke for a bit.
    Your smokey startup does show the airflow nicely as it starts to heat up, you can see the airflow pulling the smoke down and inward. Another smokey start with the last camera angle would show it great. When I start mine with needles and twigs the smoke hangs in it like a fog bank as the only air rising is at the hot center and the smoke gets pushed to it to get burnt… Nice video!

  • @xsteel3292
    @xsteel3292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome and why I've never had a pit before due to smoke. I'll try this with the info from your last video. Good to know how long it takes to become pretty much smokeless too. Guests don't want smoke in their faces! HA

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I went a long time trying to build fires every which way and was embarrassed when I just couldn’t make a fire worth sitting by. You think it’s simple, put wood in and light it up. Nope, there’s so much more to it: using seasoned dry wood, good arrangement, proper airflow and most importantly, patience. It’s like fire and air bending all in one 😆

    • @xsteel3292
      @xsteel3292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jon_Chan tell me about it! I used to be able to make a fire and tried the other night. Pitiful. Glad no one was there to witness it. :-) I vote for natural gas fire pits with a turn key. Perfect fire. HA

  • @madskillzz1
    @madskillzz1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid.....someone should make this a kit that you can buy with a stainless steel ring already pre-drilled. Maybe in 3 different sizes so you can put together what you need, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Question for you Jon....do you lose a ton of heat straight up or does it radiate well as your sitting?

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you! Yea a kit would be pretty sweet, drilling all those holes isn’t fun. As for the heat, it is substantially hotter if you stand up near it, to the point where it’s uncomfortable. We all sit down maybe 3-4 feet from the pit and it feels perfect. It’ll take a good half hour for the heat to work it’s way out the side after the stones hear up. I rest my feet against the lower stones and it feels great. My wife tells me I’ll catch on fire one day 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @privateuploads-geo2625
    @privateuploads-geo2625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jon... It looks like you motared your cap stones in 5 sections, and then placed then on top of your third row? I have to cut mine as I only can find rectangular cap bricks in my area. Did you have a special method of calculating how the cap stones would fit?

  • @wiliamsantana572
    @wiliamsantana572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi from Brazil Jon. Something I hear a lot in videos about smokeless fire pits is that the can't warm radiate well, I mean, our foot stills cold. Would you tell me how it works on this design?

  • @CarterKey6
    @CarterKey6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We built this a couple of weeks ago and love it!

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s so awesome to hear! I hope this heatwave passes so we can get back to fires at night. When it’s 9pm and still 78F , I just can’t do it.

  • @ChrisZwolinski
    @ChrisZwolinski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks cool, but our city ordinance requires a screen over the top of all pits, Can you get one for this size?

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yea you can place a 36” screen over this. The inside diameter of the cap stones is around 33”. Look up 36” or 38” fire pit screen, they come in all shapes and sizes.

  • @obiwansama
    @obiwansama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, nice grass. Does the ring ever get rusty?

  • @maddawg1948
    @maddawg1948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come you didn’t mortar all the bricks? Would it increase efficiency in the secondary burn because the air in the void would be hotter ?

  • @TimothyGRyanCHT
    @TimothyGRyanCHT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you still smell the burning wood if there is no smoke?

  • @ranmoo
    @ranmoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    two questions .... how large of an air gap would you say it averages between the inside diameter of block and the metal ring (I believe you implied about 1/2"??) ..... also, what type of mortar did you use for your top layer? Regular mortar or would you recommend high temperature mortar? I know the ring gets hot but unsure if that top layer get hot enough to warrant the high temperature versus standard mortar?

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep about 1/2” for the air gap on 2nd and 3rd layer. The bottom layer is closer to 1” as I stepped the stones out to have gaps between the stones. Mortar wise, I went with high temp (furnace cement) but they are cracking a bit and I heard it breaks down with rain and ice. I think regular mortar should hold up about the same since it’s more resistant to the moisture abuse vs furnace cement.

  • @frederikvanpassel8698
    @frederikvanpassel8698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi there greetings from Belgium, Europe. I can't find any supplier of these galvansied rings ... Any ideas what other products could replace the galvansed ring ? Greetings

  • @KimosKreations
    @KimosKreations 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mr Chan, The first fire was really smoky and I built using your design . Did your design have to burn off before it became smokeless?

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no! Our first fire lit right up and stayed hot and smoke free on the first burn. Of course we didn’t sit around that one since it was burning off any oils and from the ring. We usually fill the pit too so it gets going fast. The one time it was smoky was when we used firewood that was barely seasoned for a month. I left the rest of that cord on the rack and got more wood that was at least 9 months seasoned. If you’re grabbing stuff from the ground in the woods, I typically use a hatchet and strip off the bark, then it burns much better. If the wood is holding a lot of moisture, you’re going to have a lot of smoke/steam coming off the fire.

  • @christurner1791
    @christurner1791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn’t it make sense to concrete around the two top layers of bricks? Wouldn’t it force the heated air into the pit?

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would! Gets a better seal and the whole thing would be more sturdy.

  • @OnMyWayBack888
    @OnMyWayBack888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is the heat around the fire pit? If you sit few feet away do you feel it or is the heat basically shoots up?
    Thanks

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh it’s pretty good and hot. We don’t sit closer than 6 feet (2 meters) from the edge of the pit when it’s fully burning. About 8 people can comfortably sit around the fire for hours.

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I just stand up from my chair, I gotta turn to the side or risk losing some eyebrows.

  • @wiolamucha3346
    @wiolamucha3346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @bobkelley3676
    @bobkelley3676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how did you measure and cut the top cap stones?

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did not cut them, bought them wedge shaped. Check out the build video where there are links to everything used.

  • @johngrinnell
    @johngrinnell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, where exactly are you in Philadelphia area? I’m over in Marlton NJ

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live near Bethlehem, PA now but I wander pretty far for work and play.

    • @gabrielcocco5188
      @gabrielcocco5188 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jon_Chan I'm watching your videos from the suburbs of North Atlanta area however I'm a S.Philly boy. GO BIRDS!!! Also, THANK YOU for the great design in your 'build' video. I'll take on this project in the upcoming weeks. Your build list is invaluable!

  • @sean123456789
    @sean123456789 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Building one into my patio. Hoping to finish things up this week. Do you have an email, would love to send you some photos and get your thoughts.

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh yea under the About tab, you'll find an email address.

  • @michalsz2
    @michalsz2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont have as much space on my backyard as You, I also have plastic fence. Do you think 4 Ft would be a safe distance from the fence to the pit?

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So I have about 6 feet between the edge of the pit and the fence…the fence doesn’t warm up any more than the sun heats it during the daytime. If you’re like me and burn full pit fires, I would be very cautious with only 4 feet distance. I normally sit about 3 feet from the fire myself or else I get too warm.

  • @sabrenastclergy9893
    @sabrenastclergy9893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do u clean it

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just use a small trowel and scoop out the layer of ash. A little bit of rocks may come out but not enough to make a difference. I clean the pit maybe after 20 or so fires depending on what you burn. Oak burns down to nothing so I rarely have to clean ash.

  • @blake_229
    @blake_229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your fire pit. Looking to make the same. Have you seen where some people add an exhaust under their fire pit. Not sure if it's necessary or not. Also, on the previous video you fixed an issue to the fire pit. It would be appreciated if that could be clarified. Much thanks, liked and subscribed 👍

    • @wrighteh
      @wrighteh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be an intake. Heat rises. Anything on the bottom wouldn't be an exhaust of any kind

  • @favorite3424
    @favorite3424 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are u burning it in the middle of the day w no one around?

  • @MtnBadger
    @MtnBadger ปีที่แล้ว

    call me stupid or delusional... I see smoke during this whole thing as long as there's wood that hasn't fully reached combustion Temps all the way through the stick. Once the wood reaches the right/optimal temp to burn, the smoke goes away (mostly) which is what fire does. Using properly seasoned wood, building the fire right from the beginning and getting some hot coals down early by starting with some smaller wood at first is what's going to reduce your smoke to minimal levels. You burn up most of your wood with no one being around (yes, I understand the point of the video, trolls stay in your caves) until it's finally inhabitable (seems pretty temperate for that much fire, anyway) so, I'm not sure about the efficiency of the ring/construction until you take a different approach from the start. More oxygen from the bottom is definitely the right concept ut, having enough hear to force the drawing action in the first place is also key to a smoke free fire. Hope it all comes together for you.

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  ปีที่แล้ว

      No that’s not stupidity or delusion, you’re just experienced. You know how to start a fire better than most, so you don’t need the stupid ring to aid you. This ring only helps if you don’t have all the right methods and materials, and you’re right, it only works optimally once it’s up to temp. The point is this supposedly helps you get up to temp and maintain heat even if you have a poor start or wet wood.

    • @MtnBadger
      @MtnBadger ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jon_Chan Thank you, sir for the kind words. I'm not trying to be degrading, was just confused. Your honest explanation makes sense. I can see where it would help maintain good flow and even burning once you have your fire set and started.
      I've built thousands of fires in my life, litterally. Living in Canada with my family as a kid, ten years in the high Rockies, working on ranches and endless time camping (I used to camp for several months of the year)... I've lit a few. And sucked a LOT of smoke in my day. 😆
      Build a progressive fire, teepee or log cabin, both have their place and ensure good air flow, even of you have to dig a hole/tunnel underneath in some circumstances and try ot to burn too much wet wood (have wet wood drying by the fire as you go and you'll live a smoke free life. 😆
      I built a raised fire pit from the steel drum of a dryer (all the perforations are perfect) for that very reason, it's an old concept. If the dryer drum is too high when finished, you can buy it partially to the desired hight and if you reeeally wanna get stupid, you can dig a trench and bury a metal joint/tube that goes from the bottom (on the side) of the pit a few feet minimum to several yards to a place where it can turn up/come out at ground level with a covered vent to allow fresh draw to the base of the fire. If you're stupid enough to start digging. 😉 You can even do that in a mini-version with a ground campfire pit, it's called a "Dakota fire hole" which is great for both windy environments or if you want to keep unnoticed. It's also very efficient and uses way less wood.
      Ok, keep it up, man. We all live and learn, I. sue I'll learn from you. 😀

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  ปีที่แล้ว

      My friend Allen (who you can find in my latest video) is VERY good at burning stuff. He doesn’t need much to get a good hot smokeless fire going, and he even gets 10 day seasoned wood to light up fairly smoke free. He does the progressive teepee and it’s just fascinating to sit and watch him work.

    • @MtnBadger
      @MtnBadger ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jon_Chan Yhe first time my wife and I went camping (early date) it drizzled the whole weekend but, I know how to set up a dry tent/camp and she watched me build a fire from the materials on hand, in the rain. She said "Well, I know I'll never freeze." 😆 Between my father, personal experience and my time in the military, I can set fire to rocks. 😆

  • @fyapowa
    @fyapowa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you grill on it :D

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just got a stake in grill, we’re going to try it this Saturday!

    • @manofthecloth777
      @manofthecloth777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jon_Chan how did it work? Can you make a small video cooking? I’m going to try this design soon. Just ordered the steel ring. Thanks!

    • @Jon_Chan
      @Jon_Chan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha sure, any excuse to make steak will do 😜