absolutely! they pulled ALL stops. from his first shot all the way to the end of the show. he was the main focus. NO ONE forgot about Bron but HE was the focus. Bron was more focus during the match imo. i know bron was working him but weve seen him do this we EXPECT this from him. they're building him good as well. this wasn't a build for him imo. rn this is the REGULAR for him. bron is going to destroy whoever, whenever, wherever! these backstage clashes are crazy. cody on smackdown. now this! keep it up.
THEN you give him an old school run for the World Heavyweight title. Not necessarily an instant win right away [he gets to the title match] but you put him in the conversation for once.
I said the same thing!! I can’t see them interacting in an “exit” storyline based on her status in the company. What I see, the debut of either King Ricochet OR BETTER YET Prince Puma because PP is masked & that will add so much more intrigue in his place in the company “FINALLY”!
I'd *LOVE* for that angle to be the case. Ricochet getting over via Bron Breakker is right there for the taking like Bully said. He's way to talented a performer to just let walk away to AEW imo.
Ricochet has never been irreplaceable. Yes, he can do a ton of flips and dives, but there are a bunch of ppl who can do the same thing. Edge was far more valuable and more accomplished, and WWE let him walk. The problem with wrestling fans is that they only look at talent. Ricochet wasn't charismatic and didn't connect with the crowd well enough for them to care about him. Samantha was more over than him, and she's just an announcer.
@@_WF23 Wasn’t meant to be a slight towards AEW at all. No tribalism here. I grew up on WWE & WCW and was able to love & appreciate Sting & Luger just as much as Stone Cold & Rock. If anything, it’s acknowledgement that you don’t want talent just walking to your main competitor/rival promotion.
Part of me is leaning towards him staying as WWE has gotten really good at all of these "leaks" lately and all these contracts expiring and turning it to their advantage. I will say this Bron Breaker and Dragonov put on a great hard hitting match and then after it just seemed relentless how vicious they want Bron Breaker to look. If it is Ricochet's last thing in WWE for a while he goes out making someone look like a total badass but the whole Samantha Irvin focus after suggests that it could be leading to a big return for him down the line to seek revenge.
Absolutely agree about Bron v Dragunov.... Toledo crowd didn't deserve the quality they got there. Weak pop for one of the best Breakker/Dragunov matches ever.
They could have just had Bron attack him backstage like he did before it's no reason to involve him in this angle if he was leaving 2nd they didn't have to have Sam on cam they could have just told us she left to go to the hospital with him in my opinion if he is leaving non of this makes sense plus I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to be on AEW TV until next year or so ....but I think wwe is working us all
Since they've already acknowledged on screen that Ricochet and Samantha are together then I think it would make even less sense for her NOT to be backstage with Ricochet in the ambulance, regardless of whether or not Ricochet is leaving. If this were a shoot she wouldn't just sit at ring side watching her fiance get brutally assaulted and do nothing.
Fair point but that's not the first time she has seen him get beat up pretty badly and she never went to check on him before..granted this was the most brutal beat down she ever witnessed..but stilll to add her to the story probably means he isn't leaving. Because if he does leave and she just goes back to during her job regularly it leaves a big plot hole
I will say as one counter point, they could have decided to still do the best down but instead of showing him being carted into the ambulance with her at his side, simply made an announcement from a commentary cut away, allowing for fans to have a more definitive disconnection point. As it stands fans will absolutely be invest in this story and ricochet, and while that isn’t to say that he is definitely staying with wwe, I could see this being an attempt to buy him over by setting him up for a big storyline where in if he chooses to come back he will have momentum behind him, but if he chooses to leave well he was effectively written off.
They did it to make it believable think about it, if you see your mate get attacked would you just continue to sit there and do your job or would you get in the ambulance and ride with them to the hospital?
I totally agree with Bully Ray. Which what he's saying would be a good way to push ricochet if he does resign with WWE. Which I really don't think he's going anywhere but they need to push him and there going the right way at the moment with the storyline with Bron.
came to say the same thing plus the whole "you owe me one more" or whatever he and dragonuv said backstage.... if anything tho i hope he goes to tna and not aew he would shine there and he would get lost in aew after weeks/months
People really forget he was in a main event situation with Brock Lesnar at Saudi Arabia. Not saying he should be in the main event, just saying that’s how quick it was.
If he is leaving, it kinda sucks. This was the best positioning he has had. His wife jumping in, that is so good for him and Bron. Gives both men something to sink into.
@joshuabean7805 Hhh is a smart man and smart business. Probably ricochet did want to leave and than hhh and ricochet sat down for hours trying to think of ideas of how to get ricochet over.
Maybe I'm just out of it? Why would they use him like that IF he was done with your Company? Bully is right. If Bron Breaker interacts with Samantha next Monday, Ricco will be a returning. We shall see. If he goes to AEW. I'll never know
They kinda did this with Balor leaving, and then he resigned at the last minute. I totally agree. Breaker torments Irvin while destroying Dragunov to keep his heat up. Ricochet coming back sets up a major program that I would totally root for.
Just imagine that Ricochet gets moved out until his contract deal gets solved and he gets a character revamped maybe like his King Puma character in Lucha Underground days. Pat MacAfee has made references to Puma before...
Thing are unpredictable and we’ve seen people who we never expected to return eventually return, so they could have gotten Samantha Irvin at the end just so incase he does come back they have something to play with.
I belive they put the light on Samantha because she will hold the grudge with Bron. Samantha gives certain people special entrances, maybe she will despise Bron for taking her fiance out of the WWE. They can do the bully Bronn angle with Ilja instead of Ricochet if need be.
What's so crazy is all these contracts ending is making for ALOT of conversation. Crazy thing is from Drew, to Seth, & Becky the person I've seen alot of us speak the most about is Ricochet and his contract ending. He went out in a BIG WAY and it's a huge cliffhanger that can have him over massive if he does return. But on another note they've also just made Bron Breakker looked like the most dangerous man on the roster for Monday Night Raw too. I'm curious to see where all this goes.
I understand what bully ray is coming from but wouldn’t it look really stupid if ricochet was beat up and sent to the hospital and Samantha was just sitting there waiting to call the next match? Everyone knows they are together and was predicting that she would be the main reason he stays. That would be an insult to our intelligence if she did not act concerned.
AEW has failed guys like Wardlow, Ricky Starks, Will Hobbs...plenty of great talent still waiting for their break. Ricochet would come there...lose to Osprey and then rot on Collision or Rampage
Wrestling does not comes first in WWE. Most of the show is talking in ring promos, backstage promos, backstage fights, promotional segments for their next PLE, and soap opera reality type stuff, very little actual in ring wrestling. So if you are a true wrestling fan, then AEW is closer to true than WWE.
@@therev_sungyungmoon24 WWE can actually do it all. the wrestling, the storytelling, the psychology, the characters. everything. That's what separates it from everything else. it's a true variety show hence why they get more viewers than anything else in wrestling
I said almost the exact same thing monday. I told my friends IF Breakker starts interacting with Samantha next week, Ricochet is definitely coming back.
I as a wrestling fan would want to give kudos to bully Ray. Because bully Ray I've never always agreed with him p with what he does in the rain in the wrestling ring I should say😊 play bullet by Billy Ray has really been an insight on what goes on out of the brain and in the wrestling business better than most anybody else I have heard
Kinda like steamboat left WWF for WCW years ago his first match beat flair for the title however the turn around was really fast. He immediately dropped the belt in the rematch and was out of the main event scene
Re: Ricochet/Samantha interactions, there's been a video going around lately during the Ricochet/Braun teaming time of Ricochet being totally out of it, Braun grabbing some mistletoe and holding it over Ricochet's head, and telling Samantha to kiss him. They acknowledged the relationship there (might have been the first time), and Ricochet did a total hulk-up as a result. Like hulked up enough he could've killed Bron if they'd done that, like it was Popeye's spinach. :)
It's always cool to hear Bully say it: In AEW, the action is "balls to the walls", in the context of his comments about what he thinks Ricochet will have to do there to get over. Now, in full AEW mark mode, I will say that this is why I prefer AEW overall - the promotion that really puts on Total Non-Stop Action (pun intended). Yeah, you need stories and character development. Kudos to WWE for doing that very well, but I'm one of the niche market that still pops more for the graps, spot-fu, balls-to-the-walls, sh-t show. No problem with that. It's a preference.
Up until that segment on Raw, I thought Ricochet was definitely going to AEW, but I think his best option is to negociate a better deal with WWE with this newfound publicity of both that segment and the potential of him going to AEW looming over WWE's head, I think that despite the chances of him being involved in more main events in AEW and probably being a slightly bigger fish there than he would in WWE, this is a great opportunity for him to grow more interest, long-term from the fans as a WWE wrestler than being a slightly bigger fish in AEW before interest in him will die completely within a month, it's a risk worth taking.
Couldnt agree more with everything said here. I hope he isnt truly leaving, because this is the first time ive ever felt any kind of emotional investment in Ricochet
Honestly? Ricochet to TNA excites me more than anything. AND with the two companies working together? He works TNA for awhile and starts over, Bronn keeps being a monster in WWE, and Ricochet goes back to undo his greatest failure.
It's a good point, but I think it's feather in the cap of a way to come back in the future from. . . I think he needs to be missed and appreciated more so than he will be in WWE at this time... I could be wrong but it seemed like an adios.
Why make me so emotionally invested in him leaving? Why not give him a 1 on 1 farewell match like Edge? Samantha Irvin comes back and then what? How does she explain what happens? She just forgets about it? Odd. If I’m writing this, I’m not giving him such a big emotional spot on my show especially if I know where he is about to go most likely.
Sad to see Rico go out this way, WWE did him wrong. They never gave him what he gave to them. Rico has been around over 20 years and had more talent than the main card players.
“If I go to a wwe event and I hear Richocet is involved I’m not excited” I disagree, everytime I see him perform I know it’s gonna be something cool, the ending might not be what I’d want personally, but it’s still gonna be a great match. The dude is one of the best in my opinion
Or maybe it's something no one is thinking about....her contract is up too. Warning signs: - Female NXT announcer gets called up to Smackdown - Dasha Gonzales is released from AEW - Now is the time that both husband and wife can make the most money possible That being said, I know I can very well be wrong. Just thinking outside the box.
First time commenting here and it's to say B Ray nailed it I think. Plus, I like ricochet but does need this push (or presentation as corny would use) plus it'll boost both him and the Scott Norton clone. And the fulfillment of ricochet leaving happened (he left to go to hospital & recover).
I don’t get how yall are coming to that conclusion when this happens all the time you either get taken out and sit out the rest of the contract or they make you job out those are the two ways you go
I really believe that ricochet is not leaving. I feel like he will return at the money in the bank and cost. Bron breaker the briefcase and he will return with the prince puma persona. I’m not sure if it will happen that way or not.
Also let's say he IS leaving, the reports were saying at first his contract expires sometime this summer. Maybe he still has some time and they will do a last feud with him against Breakker to try to make money and maybe convince him to stay. The reports started saying oh monday will be his last date, but we don't know when the contract really ends. Or maybe he did sign a short term extension to do this feud and see if he wants to resign with the wwe long term.
WHAT IS RICOCHET DOING MAN!!!! WWE HIS HOME!! if his planing leave it best go indies or just take a break cuz the wrong teams will just use him the same way he though WWE was using him even tho they begin to push he.
Bully! Thank you!!! As soon as I saw Samantha in frame, I was like… hmm 🤨 I don’t think they’re leaving. Hopefully 🤞I hope Papa Trips has something similar cooking. I LOVE Bully’s idea.
One thing I think about is, Ricochet has definitely taken some influence from Cody…and they, (I imagine) have some type of interaction/ relationship in the locker rooms and backstage… advice being given… Cody would be the first one to say “if ya gotta go, you gotta go” or my mabe that’s just my fantasy booking. Just a thought I’ve had a couple times.
First question was why have Samantha involved if it's last of Rico? Easy answer. Even if he's 99% gone. If that 1% works and he stays 1 you help build the story of him being hurt 2 can build new on the story further while he's not there while she's there
I kinda wish if ricochet dissapear for a while. Then come back to NXT as a full HEEL (like finn balor 2019) that would be cool but if he went to aew or tna or whatever .GOOD for him
I felt like that whole attack seemed to be way over the top for it to be a send off for all the reasons that Bully was saying. If they were going to send him off they could have done something a little more lowkey for his send off that wouldn't need Samantha included.
Bully hit it on the head. I been telling folks on SquaredCircle. Not even just the Samantha situation, think of Xia Li, Cameron Grimes etc that batch of releases. The last match was just that, a last match. If they had left it from the Bronn interference after the match from the previous week - then I'd be more willing to entertain the rumors. But even without Samantha, they introduced a building dynamic with Ilja and building a feud with Bronn. Already, and more so with Samantha in the mix, Its not a send off, its a new angle. The company's been real savvy with how they play wjth the dynamics of the reports too - what if they had Ricochet acknowledge that his contract was running up to stir the pot with the possibility of him leaving and ultimately getting interest and getting more eyes invested into this new angle being set up? No one's sure until things pan out - but this feels more so the situation with how things have shown to be.
If the route is to have Ricochet comeback after last night it’s the perfect story and it accomplishes two things at once we get another over babyface (because we need it) and we continue building Bron as a heel and a force to be reckoned with.
There's plenty of talent in AEW for Ricochet to work with other than Ospreay...Swerve, Pac, Omega, Fenix, Takeshita, Danielson, Okada, MJF, Perry...and younger talent like Dante Martin and Kyle Fletcher
Maybe!!!! Bro he's losing to Nick Wayne's mom in a 3 way death match for the hardcore title, in 6 out of 7 falls to determine the next contender for a match with Okadas translator
@@HuffStars he can’t wrestle his mom because she’ll be wrestling Edge in a wheelchair from hell match with the winner getting a shot at Ric Flair for a shot at the Continental Breakfast Championship and a year’s worth of coupons at IHop
@@MrThesupremeking He has always stood out with his moves as a Human Highlight Reel, had big solo matches against Logan Paul and Lesnar. Even had a great solo feud with AJ Styles for the US title. In AEW, he'll be relevant for a few months up until he has another match with Ospreay and then he'll be lost in shuffle like other ex WWE guys with the exception of Jericho, Cole, Bryan, Adam, Christian and Claudio. There are too many wrestlers in AEW that can do what he does and most of them are younger than him.
@@MrThesupremeking I would book a huge match for him and Bron at Summerslam. Cuz with what Bully said could be a potential story for Bron, Ric and Samantha, Ricochet will have the emotional investment of the fans to the point where Ricochet could actually be the first guy on the main roster to pin Bron. Now this also gives Ricochet the opportunity to work on his promos like finding a promo style that he's most comfortable in. I'm telling you the only thing holding him back is his mic work. If he gets that down, he may even get a world title run.
I don't think Riccochet is world championship level material, but he can definitely be a top mid card material similar to MIZ,Sami, Shinsuke etc. He can definitely have more meaningful storylines and a strong Intercontinental or US Title run than what he been having.
hes not wrong though!! why include her? not for kicks. its not like they DONT know shes a grab and so is he. having her involved to me as a creative mind says character development wise...its turning it up to the max
If he is leaving, Samantha’s inclusion might’ve just been to make Bron seem crueler. Samantha reacting like it was the Challenger explosion makes it look that much more vicious.
Yep if he didn't have a fiance working at the same place he works at then he'd definitely most likely leave the company but i doubt he's leaving her there
This is the most interesting thing they did with him on the main roster.
absolutely! they pulled ALL stops. from his first shot all the way to the end of the show. he was the main focus. NO ONE forgot about Bron but HE was the focus. Bron was more focus during the match imo. i know bron was working him but weve seen him do this we EXPECT this from him. they're building him good as well. this wasn't a build for him imo. rn this is the REGULAR for him. bron is going to destroy whoever, whenever, wherever! these backstage clashes are crazy. cody on smackdown. now this! keep it up.
Jeff Jarrett can't let anyone know he's screwing his cousin
Give Bully the pencil. This is good shit. 😂
That dumpsrer fire AEW should hire him
Bully Ray you are a damn genius a freaking genius. Great script writing bro
The man is a master of working with what is available and making it amazing
THEN you give him an old school run for the World Heavyweight title. Not necessarily an instant win right away [he gets to the title match] but you put him in the conversation for once.
Facts someone needs to hire him as a writer he says alot of good things that could be utilized
Jeff Jarrett can't let anyone know he's screwing his cousin
She's leaving too
Let's be honest. It was just so Pat could announce the Drew V Finn match. 😂
' Bum Ass Judgment day. '
Jeff Jarrett can't let anyone know he's screwing his cousin
Bully just created a storyline that I absolutely need to see. Brilliant mind.
I said the same thing!! I can’t see them interacting in an “exit” storyline based on her status in the company. What I see, the debut of either King Ricochet OR BETTER YET Prince Puma because PP is masked & that will add so much more intrigue in his place in the company “FINALLY”!
I'd *LOVE* for that angle to be the case. Ricochet getting over via Bron Breakker is right there for the taking like Bully said. He's way to talented a performer to just let walk away to AEW imo.
Everybody's got talent. Ethan Page did few things in 4 years in AEW, and he was in the main event on his first match on NXT.
You act like both companies can’t have talent.
Ricochet has never been irreplaceable. Yes, he can do a ton of flips and dives, but there are a bunch of ppl who can do the same thing. Edge was far more valuable and more accomplished, and WWE let him walk. The problem with wrestling fans is that they only look at talent. Ricochet wasn't charismatic and didn't connect with the crowd well enough for them to care about him. Samantha was more over than him, and she's just an announcer.
@@_WF23 Wasn’t meant to be a slight towards AEW at all. No tribalism here. I grew up on WWE & WCW and was able to love & appreciate Sting & Luger just as much as Stone Cold & Rock.
If anything, it’s acknowledgement that you don’t want talent just walking to your main competitor/rival promotion.
@@BePatient888No one will pay to watch Page though.
Part of me is leaning towards him staying as WWE has gotten really good at all of these "leaks" lately and all these contracts expiring and turning it to their advantage. I will say this Bron Breaker and Dragonov put on a great hard hitting match and then after it just seemed relentless how vicious they want Bron Breaker to look. If it is Ricochet's last thing in WWE for a while he goes out making someone look like a total badass but the whole Samantha Irvin focus after suggests that it could be leading to a big return for him down the line to seek revenge.
Absolutely agree about Bron v Dragunov.... Toledo crowd didn't deserve the quality they got there. Weak pop for one of the best Breakker/Dragunov matches ever.
@ODANNEK Not everyone reacts like a child when they enjoy something
Does Toledo even enjoy wrestling or did they go just for the selfies?
This is set up for SummerSlam
Bully would be such a good Booker. He understands drama like very few people.
If he was a good booker TNA would let him instead of Dreamer. He's obviously limited and can be a douche
He books himself to be at the top every time he goes back to tna. He hulk hogan and tna is WCW
Bully is a genius with the story breakdown. How is he not writing storylines for a wrestling company?
You ain’t lying he deserves top dollar for writing
He did for Ring of Honor...and it was the WORST booking in the company history
@@KeenenMurray when and was it all him because other writers probably shot down his ideas
BECAUSE HE IS A BLOW HARD AND IS USUALLY WRONG. JUST BECAUSE HE IS LOUD DOES NOT MAKE HIM RIGHT
What if they just wanted a moment together on TV before he leaves
They could have just had Bron attack him backstage like he did before it's no reason to involve him in this angle if he was leaving 2nd they didn't have to have Sam on cam they could have just told us she left to go to the hospital with him in my opinion if he is leaving non of this makes sense plus I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to be on AEW TV until next year or so ....but I think wwe is working us all
What if
Since they've already acknowledged on screen that Ricochet and Samantha are together then I think it would make even less sense for her NOT to be backstage with Ricochet in the ambulance, regardless of whether or not Ricochet is leaving. If this were a shoot she wouldn't just sit at ring side watching her fiance get brutally assaulted and do nothing.
What's your point?
@@TheSophisticatedSavage Read it again slower.
Fair point but that's not the first time she has seen him get beat up pretty badly and she never went to check on him before..granted this was the most brutal beat down she ever witnessed..but stilll to add her to the story probably means he isn't leaving. Because if he does leave and she just goes back to during her job regularly it leaves a big plot hole
It wasn’t even his worst beating
I will say as one counter point, they could have decided to still do the best down but instead of showing him being carted into the ambulance with her at his side, simply made an announcement from a commentary cut away, allowing for fans to have a more definitive disconnection point.
As it stands fans will absolutely be invest in this story and ricochet, and while that isn’t to say that he is definitely staying with wwe, I could see this being an attempt to buy him over by setting him up for a big storyline where in if he chooses to come back he will have momentum behind him, but if he chooses to leave well he was effectively written off.
Didn’t mcAfee mention puma and prince during separate commentary different matches
He sure did. On several occasions especially with Ricochet in the ring. He said that Ricochet was quick as a Puma
Ricochet was also wearing Puma shoes LOL
They did it to make it believable think about it, if you see your mate get attacked would you just continue to sit there and do your job or would you get in the ambulance and ride with them to the hospital?
They should have been pushed Ricochet and Samantha love story to put him over. It's legit his best route to create that connection with people
I agree. People love samantha irvin. Hhh and wwe went out of there way so in my mind they are cooking something with ricochet and samantha and bron.
@@uhasjaif I’m ricohet I don’t go to aew
Bully should write for wwe. That would be a great storyline
Yes he has impeccable vision and creative
He actually is part of creative ✍🏾 lol he just don’t make it known he acts like he isn’t involved…
@@jonathanfloyd4793 I hope so
Bubba ray
Tna sucks 😊
I genuinely want to see Bully Ray as a head booker for a promotion. This dude is such a story teller
I totally agree with Bully Ray. Which what he's saying would be a good way to push ricochet if he does resign with WWE. Which I really don't think he's going anywhere but they need to push him and there going the right way at the moment with the storyline with Bron.
I agree Bully… Ricochet might be gone, but Prince Puma will be back!
came to say the same thing plus the whole "you owe me one more" or whatever he and dragonuv said backstage.... if anything tho i hope he goes to tna and not aew he would shine there and he would get lost in aew after weeks/months
Not gonna happen lucha underground owns the name
YES make a deal with Lucha for the name!
I was thinking he goes to aew and his first opponent is Pentagon Jr.
Sure, if WWE wants more lawsuits on their hands.
I love hearing Bully talk.
People really forget he was in a main event situation with Brock Lesnar at Saudi Arabia. Not saying he should be in the main event, just saying that’s how quick it was.
if he didnt take a beatdown like that id say he would be leaving. Such a solid segment that people are gunna wanna see ricochet get even
But that’s literally text book wwe…you either get taken out and sit out the rest of your contract or they have you job out the rest of your contract
@@marcusmelancon3426the dudes career highlight was winning the speed championship lmfao. not like he wasn’t already a jobber.
@@comicsunblock facts i had zero interest in the guy until this segment lmfao
@@comicsunblock uhmm ricochet was intercontinental champion and he dropped the title to gunther
@@kaysaiah3000 and you’re the only person that remembers that🤣
If he is leaving, it kinda sucks. This was the best positioning he has had. His wife jumping in, that is so good for him and Bron. Gives both men something to sink into.
They are not married
@@theblackbolt5514 They're engaged lol
@@soulessshadow5356 right lol the only difference is like a little signed piece of paper and a prenup
@@soulessshadow5356 that's not married
@@Pollard_jono yea thats what makes it a marriage
Could him and Samantha be taking a break as their wedding is coming up!?
Honestly that's likely it.
That's what I was thinking, he's on break, he'll be back
@joshuabean7805 Hhh is a smart man and smart business. Probably ricochet did want to leave and than hhh and ricochet sat down for hours trying to think of ideas of how to get ricochet over.
Stunning Steve Austin had more moves that Stone Cold Steve Austin he never had to wrestle like WCW ever again
Great booking @bully
Bully Ray giving me hope
Why would anybody leave Wwe right now? The place is booming right now.
Some People need to leave
I didn't feel like this was the last we see of him in wwe
Bully Ray is correct. AEW wants you to perform doing a million flips and tricks, injury is bound to happen wrestling like that
Reminded me of how Lashley destroyed Ambrose before he left. Rene was even there to help Dean to the back.
It was very similar to last night
I thought it was Drew. I remember the freighting OMG reaction from Renee as the camera cut to black after a vicious claymore
Danielson rode with Regal in ambulance after MJF hit him with his own brass knucks and was written off that way.
Maybe I'm just out of it? Why would they use him like that IF he was done with your Company?
Bully is right. If Bron Breaker interacts with Samantha next Monday, Ricco will be a returning. We shall see. If he goes to AEW. I'll never know
Bully Ray needs to start booking matches in WWE...his takes seem to real that I can see it happening on my tv💯💯💯
also if it was his last night why give the thumbs up to the crowd? that's practically saying I'm good I'll be back believe that
This is the most level-headed Ricochet discussion I've seen so far. Loving it.
They kinda did this with Balor leaving, and then he resigned at the last minute. I totally agree. Breaker torments Irvin while destroying Dragunov to keep his heat up. Ricochet coming back sets up a major program that I would totally root for.
Just imagine that Ricochet gets moved out until his contract deal gets solved and he gets a character revamped maybe like his King Puma character in Lucha Underground days. Pat MacAfee has made references to Puma before...
Thing are unpredictable and we’ve seen people who we never expected to return eventually return, so they could have gotten Samantha Irvin at the end just so incase he does come back they have something to play with.
Ricochet vs Malakai Black. Ricochet teamed with Aleister in wwe and their confrontation would be interesting 😎🔥
Reintro him as Prince Puma...book it!
Bully/Bubba is such a genius when it comes to booking.
Ricochet goes to AEW and fights Will Ospreay. BANGERS!
I've seen a backflip I like plot better than spot.
If he does hopefully Samantha realizes hes that much of a loser and dumps him
He's not going to AeW 😅
Trampoline yada yada yada
Trampoline yada yada yada
What if we are writing off Ricochet and introducing Prince Puma
I belive they put the light on Samantha because she will hold the grudge with Bron. Samantha gives certain people special entrances, maybe she will despise Bron for taking her fiance out of the WWE. They can do the bully Bronn angle with Ilja instead of Ricochet if need be.
What's so crazy is all these contracts ending is making for ALOT of conversation. Crazy thing is from Drew, to Seth, & Becky the person I've seen alot of us speak the most about is Ricochet and his contract ending. He went out in a BIG WAY and it's a huge cliffhanger that can have him over massive if he does return.
But on another note they've also just made Bron Breakker looked like the most dangerous man on the roster for Monday Night Raw too. I'm curious to see where all this goes.
I understand what bully ray is coming from but wouldn’t it look really stupid if ricochet was beat up and sent to the hospital and Samantha was just sitting there waiting to call the next match? Everyone knows they are together and was predicting that she would be the main reason he stays. That would be an insult to our intelligence if she did not act concerned.
He’s not leaving, did yall not see his new shirt last night ?
My thoughts exactly
What did it say. I didn’t pay attention to it
Honestly, I don’t think it’s new. I believe that shirt came out around the time he was feuding with Logan Paul. He just hasn’t worn it in a while
@@G_Six The Future is in Flight
He's had that shirt for awhile if Fans bought it he'd be Top 5 Merchandise Seller
AEW is not where wrestling comes first its where flips comes first.
Haven't seen bryan do a flip, but i guess
AEW has failed guys like Wardlow, Ricky Starks, Will Hobbs...plenty of great talent still waiting for their break. Ricochet would come there...lose to Osprey and then rot on Collision or Rampage
@user-il1dv2wm9k and wwe never saw anything in Ricky starks, wardlow, or Will Hobbs until aew said hey I think you guys got something
Wrestling does not comes first in WWE. Most of the show is talking in ring promos, backstage promos, backstage fights, promotional segments for their next PLE, and soap opera reality type stuff, very little actual in ring wrestling. So if you are a true wrestling fan, then AEW is closer to true than WWE.
@@therev_sungyungmoon24 WWE can actually do it all. the wrestling, the storytelling, the psychology, the characters. everything. That's what separates it from everything else. it's a true variety show hence why they get more viewers than anything else in wrestling
I said almost the exact same thing monday. I told my friends IF Breakker starts interacting with Samantha next week, Ricochet is definitely coming back.
My TH-cam is on autoplay, and I swear this was Paul Heyman until I turned on my screen and saw Bully. Damn it, I'll never unhear this similarity now.
I as a wrestling fan would want to give kudos to bully Ray. Because bully Ray I've never always agreed with him p with what he does in the rain in the wrestling ring I should say😊 play bullet by Billy Ray has really been an insight on what goes on out of the brain and in the wrestling business better than most anybody else I have heard
Bully just created a storyline I'm 100% invested in and it's just a theory.
Kinda like steamboat left WWF for WCW years ago his first match beat flair for the title however the turn around was really fast. He immediately dropped the belt in the rematch and was out of the main event scene
Re: Ricochet/Samantha interactions, there's been a video going around lately during the Ricochet/Braun teaming time of Ricochet being totally out of it, Braun grabbing some mistletoe and holding it over Ricochet's head, and telling Samantha to kiss him. They acknowledged the relationship there (might have been the first time), and Ricochet did a total hulk-up as a result. Like hulked up enough he could've killed Bron if they'd done that, like it was Popeye's spinach. :)
It's always cool to hear Bully say it: In AEW, the action is "balls to the walls", in the context of his comments about what he thinks Ricochet will have to do there to get over. Now, in full AEW mark mode, I will say that this is why I prefer AEW overall - the promotion that really puts on Total Non-Stop Action (pun intended). Yeah, you need stories and character development. Kudos to WWE for doing that very well, but I'm one of the niche market that still pops more for the graps, spot-fu, balls-to-the-walls, sh-t show. No problem with that. It's a preference.
Up until that segment on Raw, I thought Ricochet was definitely going to AEW, but I think his best option is to negociate a better deal with WWE with this newfound publicity of both that segment and the potential of him going to AEW looming over WWE's head, I think that despite the chances of him being involved in more main events in AEW and probably being a slightly bigger fish there than he would in WWE, this is a great opportunity for him to grow more interest, long-term from the fans as a WWE wrestler than being a slightly bigger fish in AEW before interest in him will die completely within a month, it's a risk worth taking.
Couldnt agree more with everything said here. I hope he isnt truly leaving, because this is the first time ive ever felt any kind of emotional investment in Ricochet
Honestly? Ricochet to TNA excites me more than anything. AND with the two companies working together?
He works TNA for awhile and starts over, Bronn keeps being a monster in WWE, and Ricochet goes back to undo his greatest failure.
It's a good point, but I think it's feather in the cap of a way to come back in the future from. . .
I think he needs to be missed and appreciated more so than he will be in WWE at this time...
I could be wrong but it seemed like an adios.
Bully ray should be head of creative for aew or nxt.
Why make me so emotionally invested in him leaving? Why not give him a 1 on 1 farewell match like Edge? Samantha Irvin comes back and then what? How does she explain what happens? She just forgets about it? Odd. If I’m writing this, I’m not giving him such a big emotional spot on my show especially if I know where he is about to go most likely.
Sad to see Rico go out this way, WWE did him wrong. They never gave him what he gave to them. Rico has been around over 20 years and had more talent than the main card players.
Why is brother Bully not a writer. Brilliant!
“If I go to a wwe event and I hear Richocet is involved I’m not excited” I disagree, everytime I see him perform I know it’s gonna be something cool, the ending might not be what I’d want personally, but it’s still gonna be a great match. The dude is one of the best in my opinion
Or maybe it's something no one is thinking about....her contract is up too.
Warning signs:
- Female NXT announcer gets called up to Smackdown
- Dasha Gonzales is released from AEW
- Now is the time that both husband and wife can make the most money possible
That being said, I know I can very well be wrong. Just thinking outside the box.
Respect to legend, I can see emotions how much he care and me here care about ricochet
Cam someone buy Dave a better quality camera please
He doesn't need one.
Bully Ray’s narration of that possible Ricochet story gave me chills.
First time commenting here and it's to say B Ray nailed it I think. Plus, I like ricochet but does need this push (or presentation as corny would use) plus it'll boost both him and the Scott Norton clone. And the fulfillment of ricochet leaving happened (he left to go to hospital & recover).
Facts. He isn’t going anywhere. They wrote him off of television until they have something for him.
I don’t get how yall are coming to that conclusion when this happens all the time you either get taken out and sit out the rest of the contract or they make you job out those are the two ways you go
Lol
I really believe that ricochet is not leaving. I feel like he will return at the money in the bank and cost. Bron breaker the briefcase and he will return with the prince puma persona. I’m not sure if it will happen that way or not.
He should do the thing like Finn Balor. Where prince puma comes out every once in awhile like the demon.
Also let's say he IS leaving, the reports were saying at first his contract expires sometime this summer.
Maybe he still has some time and they will do a last feud with him against Breakker to try to make money and maybe convince him to stay.
The reports started saying oh monday will be his last date, but we don't know when the contract really ends.
Or maybe he did sign a short term extension to do this feud and see if he wants to resign with the wwe long term.
WHAT IS RICOCHET DOING MAN!!!! WWE HIS HOME!!
if his planing leave it best go indies or just take a break cuz the wrong teams will just use him the same way he though WWE was using him even tho they begin to push he.
I think Bully is 100% spot on here
If this was an angle for ricochet to return this would be the step forward in his career we have always wanted
Bully! Thank you!!! As soon as I saw Samantha in frame, I was like… hmm 🤨 I don’t think they’re leaving. Hopefully 🤞I hope Papa Trips has something similar cooking. I LOVE Bully’s idea.
did anyone else read the article saying they had a story incase he stayed? Maybe thats just it theyre rolling with the story and he is staying
One thing I think about is, Ricochet has definitely taken some influence from Cody…and they, (I imagine) have some type of interaction/ relationship in the locker rooms and backstage… advice being given… Cody would be the first one to say “if ya gotta go, you gotta go” or my mabe that’s just my fantasy booking. Just a thought I’ve had a couple times.
First question was why have Samantha involved if it's last of Rico? Easy answer. Even if he's 99% gone. If that 1% works and he stays
1 you help build the story of him being hurt
2 can build new on the story further while he's not there while she's there
I kinda wish if ricochet dissapear for a while. Then come back to NXT as a full HEEL (like finn balor 2019) that would be cool but if he went to aew or tna or whatever .GOOD for him
Can someone get Bully in wwe creative!? Goat is always spitting straight diamonds ! His creative mind for wrestling is great 💯
I felt like that whole attack seemed to be way over the top for it to be a send off for all the reasons that Bully was saying. If they were going to send him off they could have done something a little more lowkey for his send off that wouldn't need Samantha included.
Bully with the Hollywood squares reference, YES!
Bully hit it on the head. I been telling folks on SquaredCircle. Not even just the Samantha situation, think of Xia Li, Cameron Grimes etc that batch of releases. The last match was just that, a last match. If they had left it from the Bronn interference after the match from the previous week - then I'd be more willing to entertain the rumors. But even without Samantha, they introduced a building dynamic with Ilja and building a feud with Bronn. Already, and more so with Samantha in the mix, Its not a send off, its a new angle.
The company's been real savvy with how they play wjth the dynamics of the reports too - what if they had Ricochet acknowledge that his contract was running up to stir the pot with the possibility of him leaving and ultimately getting interest and getting more eyes invested into this new angle being set up? No one's sure until things pan out - but this feels more so the situation with how things have shown to be.
If the route is to have Ricochet comeback after last night it’s the perfect story and it accomplishes two things at once we get another over babyface (because we need it) and we continue building Bron as a heel and a force to be reckoned with.
He's not leaving, he's coming back as Prince Puma. He ain't gonna leave his wife. They love traveling together.
I was thinking the same thing
Okay we will see if he stays in WWE or going to AEW or whatever
Fax lil bro that for the better
He can travel with her and not be the WWE lmao they are rich enough. Wtf u talking about
@@georgealvarez1195 Everyone knows that, I didn't have to write that, but it won't be as much.
There's plenty of talent in AEW for Ricochet to work with other than Ospreay...Swerve, Pac, Omega, Fenix, Takeshita, Danielson, Okada, MJF, Perry...and younger talent like Dante Martin and Kyle Fletcher
I thought it was Kyle Felcher?
Tony will probably book him to lose to Okada and maybe Nick Wayne
Maybe!!!! Bro he's losing to Nick Wayne's mom in a 3 way death match for the hardcore title, in 6 out of 7 falls to determine the next contender for a match with Okadas translator
@@HuffStars he can’t wrestle his mom because she’ll be wrestling Edge in a wheelchair from hell match with the winner getting a shot at Ric Flair for a shot at the Continental Breakfast Championship and a year’s worth of coupons at IHop
Why would the WWE have that happen last night and say they will update about his condition? I don't think he's gone
Bro if ricochet is leaving for aew it'll be the dumbest decision of his career
Not for his checkbook…
Then what have the last 5 years bin
@@MrThesupremeking He has always stood out with his moves as a Human Highlight Reel, had big solo matches against Logan Paul and Lesnar. Even had a great solo feud with AJ Styles for the US title. In AEW, he'll be relevant for a few months up until he has another match with Ospreay and then he'll be lost in shuffle like other ex WWE guys with the exception of Jericho, Cole, Bryan, Adam, Christian and Claudio. There are too many wrestlers in AEW that can do what he does and most of them are younger than him.
@johnnyd1824 then what do you want him to do stay and be fodder for Bron for the next 5 years? Or something else
@@MrThesupremeking I would book a huge match for him and Bron at Summerslam. Cuz with what Bully said could be a potential story for Bron, Ric and Samantha, Ricochet will have the emotional investment of the fans to the point where Ricochet could actually be the first guy on the main roster to pin Bron. Now this also gives Ricochet the opportunity to work on his promos like finding a promo style that he's most comfortable in. I'm telling you the only thing holding him back is his mic work. If he gets that down, he may even get a world title run.
I don't think Riccochet is world championship level material, but he can definitely be a top mid card material similar to MIZ,Sami, Shinsuke etc. He can definitely have more meaningful storylines and a strong Intercontinental or US Title run than what he been having.
hes not wrong though!! why include her? not for kicks. its not like they DONT know shes a grab and so is he. having her involved to me as a creative mind says character development wise...its turning it up to the max
If he is leaving, Samantha’s inclusion might’ve just been to make Bron seem crueler. Samantha reacting like it was the Challenger explosion makes it look that much more vicious.
People will forget about Ricochet in a few weeks time unless Bron keeps reminding you of him.
Yeah, dudes that flip and do nothing else are a dime a dozen.
Yep if he didn't have a fiance working at the same place he works at then he'd definitely most likely leave the company but i doubt he's leaving her there
I dont want him to leave
Lmao Bully can’t decide what he wants her name to be 😂
Bully giving Bron how be Bully is great that got me excited now wanna see this
“Why go out of your way to remind everybody that Samantha is with Ricochet?” 🎯🎯🎯🎯