Because he’s not making it the way he used to in the 90s. He made some good songs in sonic 3 because he would make the music than send the tape to sega and they would put it in the system
It’s because I saw a comment from another video that responded to what you said I can’t remember what it was but all I can remember is “The song reminds us of all games” or I could be remembering things wrong
I love how fang Mk 1 is probably one of the worst music in the game. Meanwhile Mk2 is probably one of the best, ecapsulating so much rage and intimidation
its so inconsistent but it has one of the best ones in the series in my opinion the best one is (SAND SANCTUARY ACT 1) its the best damn thing i ever heard
The transition from the Special Stage to Fang the Hunter Boss fight ver. 1 brought me whiplash. We were also going to the best part of the Special Stage theme.
Something I thought I'd mention (whether or not you care) is that most, if not all, of Jun's synths for the "Sonic 4" style songs are actually from Sonic 4: Episode 2, not Episode 1. In my opinion, EP I's instrumentation was terrible but it was greatly (and i mean GREATLY) improved in EP II.
I kinda get how people dont like the instrumentation, but honestly its not that bad Its just that the bar is usually so high that you're not just gonna eat slop, but honestly the slop is enjoyable
fair, the good ones like cyberstation and fang mk2 are hard carrying because the rest of them are mostly just the normal stuff you would hear in a sonic game, and the trash ones like fang mk1 is what's holding it from being A or smth
The main menu is made with actual genesis sounds I hate it when people just listen to a song and say its bad just because it was made with sonic 4 instrumentation (in this case it wasn't, the world map song has sonic 4 instruments, not the menu song)
I didn’t like it due to its poor arrangement, I also started to get a headache when I listened to it while playing the game where I had to get off a lot more frequently then I ever do with any Sonic game. Maybe they just used the genesis instruments wrong
@@TintFrenzy 1. The genesis doesnt have a set amount of instruments, so you could absolutely make something that sounds simular to any of the presets in Vacuum xpand! and KorgTriton (the name of the 3 VSTs used throughout sonic 4) and i can definitely say this cuz i myself have messed around with the FM instruments 2. In the game files theres a version before another composer (i forgot their name) came in and remade this song with actual genesis instruments: th-cam.com/video/-hm8Sxy9mEc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cVrAms4cMDMVE73Z
8:53 The same example that they do in other videos, Super Sonic will always be this example. Edit: 9:05 From there that part ends. Honestly, I can't believe they always put the woman running, honestly. It is a great example of the Super Sonic soundtracks..
Keep in mind for my next video I’ll try to make sure there is no thrust dancing. Update: Sorry if Part 2 is taking so long it should come out this week though
Good to know I'm not the only one, it's honestly good once you listen to it a few times. It really feels like walking through an ancient city made of gold
Personally, I'd say all of Jun's tracks for the game are pretty mid. The composition is usually alright, but the instruments sound pretty bad. Then the boss themes he made are pretty boring. You'd think Jun would understand how to make a good song with the Genesis sound font since he worked on the music for Sonic 3 and 3D Blast, but he didn't actually program the songs into the games; he just composed them with his guitar and keyboard, and then he gave them to someone else to program. In conclusion, unless he's using live instruments, Jun Sunoe should not be allowed to determine how the finished music in a game sounds. Also, Fang's first boss theme is definitely worse than the Early Game Boss. The instrument choice in the second part is horrible!
Tbh...HOT TAKE ALERT Sonic 4 ost is A LITTLE BIT underrated casue the only songs that SUCK Are the mechanikal stage soundtracks, boss themes and Splash hill act 1 Sonic superstars Jun songs: Mini boss: "no good" Early boss: TERRIBLE Fang: it's not torture it's okayyyy The rest is....Fiiiiiine?
At least in Sonic the Hedgehog 4, some of the music was actually decent. Here, it just sounds HORRIBLE, UNFITTING, and DOWNRIGHT EARBLEEDING!! This is why you shouldn't have SEGA Genesis-style music in a Sonic game released in 2023.
Strange, Jun is usually an awesome composer… except when trying to emulate the 16 bit era… pretty much everything else he does is great
Because he’s not making it the way he used to in the 90s. He made some good songs in sonic 3 because he would make the music than send the tape to sega and they would put it in the system
@@Legobeeerus these are not sonic 4 sound fonts that is pc 98 of you have not figured that out.
His Classic music in Forces was pretty good
He didn’t do the music in forces though@@ZoobiethePopplio
@@Alpha-oo8 What?
I was hoping so bad to see Shantae dancing even for a frame during Sand Sanctuary hahaha the song sounds straight outta shantae games. One of the best
It’s because I saw a comment from another video that responded to what you said I can’t remember what it was but all I can remember is “The song reminds us of all games” or I could be remembering things wrong
Reminds me of Shantae but that trumpet takes me straight to Guacamelee
2:52 crazy how fang's superstar theme almoat perfectly syncs with the garbage can can dance.
Almost like it was made for it
XDXDD
THIS WOULD BEEN GOOD IF THEY ADD GARAGEBAND IN HERE
When you run out of internet dancing clips
I knew at some point someone was gonna point that out.
3:05 as someone who uses garageband i immediently recognized those instruments the exact moment i heard them
FINALLY THE CYBERSPACE BOSS GETS THE LOVE IT DESERVES
4:20 Jun picking up his classic synths, going to create the most horrificly inconceivable sounds to ever grace the fae of the earth
Don't let him near to a snyth
@@matheuspires2462
(don't tell him that most of Jun Senoue's modern music also uses synths)
(and Sonic Heroes used the same synth as Sonic 4 Ep.1)
You mean one of the best musics in the game
the fact that the same guy who made the big arms remix for generations also made fang boss mk1 is insane to me
Man I thought I was the only one who loved sand sanctuary ost
It’s peak
I liked fangs theme I thought it was pretty good
5:37 I made a mistake where it said Act 1 instead of Act 2 so I am just gonna blur that part out.
This whole game is the most mixed I been with a sonic game lol
game kinda fell off at zone 7
I agree, not Sonic game has make me had so many mixed feelings ;_;
i still think mania was better but superstars is alright imo
I love how fang Mk 1 is probably one of the worst music in the game. Meanwhile Mk2 is probably one of the best, ecapsulating so much rage and intimidation
Fang's song has to be the most memeble song of the ost
In the worst way humanly possible
sand sanctuary is so cool that the whole song is in this video.
Your pfp says everything...and I love to see more of us Shantae fans here.
its so inconsistent but it has one of the best ones in the series
in my opinion the best one is (SAND SANCTUARY ACT 1) its the best damn thing i ever heard
I adore this video because it literally gives my exact feelings on this soundtrack 💀💀
The late game boss one had me soo cracked up!😂
The special stage music is by far the best in the series imo.
The transition from the Special Stage to Fang the Hunter Boss fight ver. 1 brought me whiplash. We were also going to the best part of the Special Stage theme.
I wish they would just use Tee for the classic games and Jun for the newer games.
5:16 FINALLY SOMEONE ACKNOWLEDGES HOW AMAZING THIS SONG IS
This ost slaps.
This song is so cool 😎 🔥 8:53
7:38 The sync is 🔥
What makes Egg Fortress Act 1 more enjoyable is the fact that it sounds a WHOLE lot like Metal Man's theme from Megaman 2
5:38 New Sega Sonic Bros. Wii
THIS IS PEAK FICTION
Wait, I’m not the only one who thought about the JP CD special stage???
Yup
Something I thought I'd mention (whether or not you care) is that most, if not all, of Jun's synths for the "Sonic 4" style songs are actually from Sonic 4: Episode 2, not Episode 1. In my opinion, EP I's instrumentation was terrible but it was greatly (and i mean GREATLY) improved in EP II.
I love this video all the music sound awsome
Including sonic 4s music
@@kkabfunworld3113Facts have been spoken
thanks! @@aidemargaming2798
The unused cyber station boss kinda hits tho
To be honest, Jun's composition is not that bad, once you listen to them a few times, you like it
My friend, that's called "gaslighting yourself"
True. Bridge Island and Press Factory for example have compositions reminiscent of Emerald Coast and Cannon's Core.
@@skytheidiott So what if I do? I liked it anyways.
I kinda get how people dont like the instrumentation, but honestly its not that bad
Its just that the bar is usually so high that you're not just gonna eat slop, but honestly the slop is enjoyable
@@skytheidiott It's called "enjoying music"
B-tier soundtrack
More like, below F-tier soundtrack.
fair, the good ones like cyberstation and fang mk2 are hard carrying because the rest of them are mostly just the normal stuff you would hear in a sonic game, and the trash ones like fang mk1 is what's holding it from being A or smth
Okay so there’s a timeline that this sonic just came back from maina so this is like a sequel
Well according the official timeline they said it takes place before Adventure and mania which is explained in a video I saw
@@LegitQuickStream I thought it was after maina
@@Ashtonlee86 same
@@Ashtonlee86 *mania
fang mk2 is just FIRE
Sand sanctuary kinda fire tho?
This ost is all over the place
7:23 Shamar says hi
Amazing ost
The main menu is made with actual genesis sounds
I hate it when people just listen to a song and say its bad just because it was made with sonic 4 instrumentation (in this case it wasn't, the world map song has sonic 4 instruments, not the menu song)
I didn’t like it due to its poor arrangement, I also started to get a headache when I listened to it while playing the game where I had to get off a lot more frequently then I ever do with any Sonic game. Maybe they just used the genesis instruments wrong
I don’t remember genesis sounds having sonic 4 ass synth noises
@@TintFrenzy 1. The genesis doesnt have a set amount of instruments, so you could absolutely make something that sounds simular to any of the presets in Vacuum xpand! and KorgTriton (the name of the 3 VSTs used throughout sonic 4) and i can definitely say this cuz i myself have messed around with the FM instruments
2. In the game files theres a version before another composer (i forgot their name) came in and remade this song with actual genesis instruments: th-cam.com/video/-hm8Sxy9mEc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cVrAms4cMDMVE73Z
8:25 I love that looks like the girl is msking the sound with her mouth😂
Bro why does cyber station boss go so damn hard though
8:04 Was that Dance of 87?!
Lol the fang boss mk1 got me😂😂
Egg fortress act. 1 reminds me of an undertale fangame ost for some reason
Peak video 🗿
8:53 bro think she have invincibility like super sonic 💀💀💀
TH-cam Bots are already appearing in my comments 😫
@@LegitQuickStream um, Bots? i don't see any Bots
@@knucklestheechidna-f7t TH-cam I know it’s you, your username can’t fool me!
@@LegitQuickStream nah, it's not a bot, but i forgot to put my username, lol
@@knucklestheechidna-f7t Oh ok then, sorry.
Sand sanctuary giving me heavy Shantae vibes
Also why the best theme is the unused one
Sand sanctuary better playz on my funeral if i die at a desert or else i tell god to live a minute more and tell everyone to plah it
8:53 The same example that they do in other videos, Super Sonic will always be this example.
Edit: 9:05 From there that part ends. Honestly, I can't believe they always put the woman running, honestly.
It is a great example of the Super Sonic soundtracks..
Bro what jun do thooooo? 😂
yeah this is peak.
Keep in mind for my next video I’ll try to make sure there is no thrust dancing.
Update: Sorry if Part 2 is taking so long it should come out this week though
1:43 it fits perfect also
I actually liked Golden Capital Act 1.....
Good to know I'm not the only one, it's honestly good once you listen to it a few times. It really feels like walking through an ancient city made of gold
1:03 They officially recreated classic sonic💀💀💀
What was jun thinking when he made fangs first theme? Jesus it’s awful!
He probably forgot all his music skills and popped some drug pills
most likely a demo version that was meant to be finished but never was
Sounds like it, if that’s the case I guess I can understand it@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
It's supposed to be an extended version of Fang's theme from Sonic Triple Trouble... but he just made a 20 second loop.
I think Golden Capital is actually good
Same. I love both acts
IDK the why but i liked the sonic 4 musics one too
sonic superstars have some good music, but it did left a taste of it could have been better.
Mania perhaps?
@@LegitQuickStream
no. we've had enough Brass of Power spam.
@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 what’s that?
@@LegitQuickStream
That one brass instrument that's in every Sonic Mania song
There is not a single good track in Superstars that’s enough to redeem the entire music.
I only find the early game and mini boss ass. Th rest is gold
The Early Game Boss music is probably the only bad one in the game.
Personally, I'd say all of Jun's tracks for the game are pretty mid. The composition is usually alright, but the instruments sound pretty bad. Then the boss themes he made are pretty boring.
You'd think Jun would understand how to make a good song with the Genesis sound font since he worked on the music for Sonic 3 and 3D Blast, but he didn't actually program the songs into the games; he just composed them with his guitar and keyboard, and then he gave them to someone else to program.
In conclusion, unless he's using live instruments, Jun Sunoe should not be allowed to determine how the finished music in a game sounds.
Also, Fang's first boss theme is definitely worse than the Early Game Boss. The instrument choice in the second part is horrible!
That theme is under the "Just fine" category, at least to me.@@inkdragoon4547
@@inkdragoon4547 He composed and programed his tracks in 3D Blast. He even programed a track for another composer.
The only bad one is Fang theme. The rest are bearable. A lot of songs in this game are actually amazing
142th sub
Dang, I did not expect to get this many subscribers i’ll be sure to post more videos
4:20
Pov: You don't have your own opinion and you use other people's opinions and you don't know how to enjoy the game regardless of the soundtrack.
I'm sorry the Music is dogshit just like ur pfp
sonic superstars plus please sega
Not to be rude, but for some tracks, I see a lot of complaining, but not a lot of remixing.
Either way, great soundtrack honestly.
So true 😭
Tbh...HOT TAKE ALERT
Sonic 4 ost is A LITTLE BIT underrated casue the only songs that SUCK Are the mechanikal stage soundtracks, boss themes and Splash hill act 1
Sonic superstars Jun songs:
Mini boss: "no good"
Early boss: TERRIBLE
Fang: it's not torture it's okayyyy
The rest is....Fiiiiiine?
In resume: Tee Lopes Music is good, and Jun Senoue is trash . . at least on Genesis style music
Sounds Like garage band From Ios 0_0
2:53
AND WHY DIDNT THEY USE CYBERSTATION BOSS????
At least in Sonic the Hedgehog 4, some of the music was actually decent. Here, it just sounds HORRIBLE, UNFITTING, and DOWNRIGHT EARBLEEDING!! This is why you shouldn't have SEGA Genesis-style music in a Sonic game released in 2023.
Dude fnaf movie theme is better than this lame.