Not everybody can debate. You need someone who can listen understand and mostly who can reason with open mind. In debates like this you go there with your belief but at the same time open to accept other views if need be.
Thank you Siba for bringing Shenge to the programme. The man knows about the philosophy of scriptures. The christians have to understand that the scripture is history plus philosophy. You take it as only history, then you will have problems of understanding.
I have come to realize that not every topic requires a debate. Instead, it is important to pray and seek God's revelation for personal understanding. In relation to this; 1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him." Thanks Mfundisi Dlamini
The issue here is that Majola interpretation wants to mix physical and spiritual things. The two are different and become difficult to reconcile. Hence, he ends up saying uvalelwe ekhoneni. Akekho umuntu omvalela ekhoneni except his argument. His premise is similar to a question non believers ask when they say "where was God before the beginning in Genesis, where did he come from". Hence, Buthelezi started from Genesis to demonstrate that God created all of the physical (what we see , feel, and hear), but he is outside of all of it. So it becomes obsurd when you try to explain God using human terms or understanding like Majola is doing. When God created the heavens that Majola is pointing to as vertical, God already existed, which means his heaven was already there when he created the heavens we point to in the sky.
Lendzaba ye interpretation itsandza kuzulisana between literally as well as understanding. Probably Scripture can interpret itself. I hope Sikhakhane was right nakatsi kubuhlungu the Ps Zweli has been taken by the the new Theories sekufanele ayophendvuka
Yabona mine once kwaba namagama amade afundile 🤦, I miss the simple basics of faith as Paul says , “although highly educated, I choose to come to you and preach Christ and Him crucified “ period.
I tend to agree with Majola at this, the danger of Mr Ngqulunga's position is relying on extrabiblical knowledge. Sola scriptura is the way guys. Lets discuss theology not mystical knowledge. Ngqulunga is on the mystical interpretation of scripture.
Just to help uMajola, the heaven of God is spiritual. It is in the northenmost part of the universe. It is spiritual material. This north is even pointed by the compass. Even Job says so. He ascended physically pointing to a physical direction of heaven. Jerusalem is located strategically on the north in order to also assist in pointing to where heaven is.
Am not sure if you guys read our comments or not... But am really feeling like every theologian that comes in states that every thing or most of the things writen is not real but an example or illustration since the people God dealt with wear stupid or couldn't or wouldn't be able to understand spiritual things
Jesus ascended up to Heaven, Holy spirit is here on earth...John 16:7 says it is to your advantage that I go away;for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; bt if I depart, I will send Him to you....Jesus is in Heaven waiting to come back.
The windows of heaven are there in heaven as the bible says, BUT they are not windows of earth. Earthly windows are physical as we all know and see them. Lana we are talking about the One who walked on water, therefore, what can make it difficult for Him to make windows of [in] heaven? He physically ascended into heaven and if He's still there whether physically or spiritually, yini engamehlula to have a seat in heaven? [Whether heaven is spiritual or physical, kodwa ukukho okungamehlula]. Well, my point is not whether heaven is spiritual or physical and we know ukuthi according to Philippians 3:20...our citizenship is in heaven. I just wanted to correct yento yamafastele ezulu
You read God from the school, John 14:26 Jesus said; But the Helper, the Holy spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things....only the Holy spirit left by Jesus on earth as a promise to teach the children of God
Mr Majola did he do hermeneutics? Because in that course there is what is called Anthropomorphosm. Where God is said to use the language of common men to bring understanding to men. God does not speak the language of men. He uses context to speak to people.
Majola embarrassed himself on this one. At least he agrees at the end that he doesn't know what he is talking about. He should have just said that from the beginning and saved us a lot of time.
Disappointing Siba again fails to do his job as a host. Just because you are an eloquent speaker doesn't mean everything you say is correct. UMajola mebuza umbuzo ku uSbali, akaphenduli uSbali uyajikajika lento evamiswe ukwezwa abo Gobhozi no Jiyane ethule noSiba engasho lutho athule engathi akezwa kodwa uma Sbali ebuza uSiba usukuma amengenyawo e demand impendulo. ay USiba uwrong ngeke. Kule show ubemele uSbali Last ubemele uJiyane ay iyafavour lendoda. Uma ibhayibheli lithi izulu liphezulu uMajola eyi prover lento, uSbali why enga prove eyakhe i narrative nge bhayibheli efuna ukusitshela ngepolitiki "ama scholars wara wara". Umakuthiwa phezulu(up) yi direction leyo it doesn't matter whether its spiritual or not. Siba lungisa Iphutha lakho ndoda kowube ne backbone ubeyindoda uyeke ukukhetha ama side ubeyi Host ebalanced.
The host is unfair to Majola in many ways. One making it clear that he is on Buthelezi's side, two laughing at Majola, three giving Majola limited time, four asking Majola questions in a manner that makes him and shenge win ... This show must make it clear as to whether it exists to help believers know more about God or it's all about proving how much the other knows versus the other
Not everybody can debate. You need someone who can listen understand and mostly who can reason with open mind. In debates like this you go there with your belief but at the same time open to accept other views if need be.
Thank you Siba for bringing Shenge to the programme. The man knows about the philosophy of scriptures. The christians have to understand that the scripture is history plus philosophy. You take it as only history, then you will have problems of understanding.
I have come to realize that not every topic requires a debate. Instead, it is important to pray and seek God's revelation for personal understanding.
In relation to this;
1 Corinthians 2:9
But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
Thanks Mfundisi Dlamini
Akhona amafastela awakaMoya, awabonwa ngamehlo. Ukuthi into i-spiritual akusho ukuthi ayinayo i-direction. UNkulunkulu wayengeke athi liphezulu uma lingekho phezulu, okunye amampunge. Ngiyamncoma kakhulu uMajola, he is an intelligent child of God, aqhubeke njalo angachezuki kukho konke akushilo, kuyiqiniso konke.
Ndiyakhala ngehost this time ngeke Siba
Majola just wanted to be in the show, and everyone can agree, because he is not logical but mixed up.
Mncane Kakhulu bandla...
Beautiful conclusions, alihambe ivangeli 👏🏽🙌🏽😇
The issue here is that Majola interpretation wants to mix physical and spiritual things. The two are different and become difficult to reconcile. Hence, he ends up saying uvalelwe ekhoneni. Akekho umuntu omvalela ekhoneni except his argument. His premise is similar to a question non believers ask when they say "where was God before the beginning in Genesis, where did he come from". Hence, Buthelezi started from Genesis to demonstrate that God created all of the physical (what we see , feel, and hear), but he is outside of all of it. So it becomes obsurd when you try to explain God using human terms or understanding like Majola is doing. When God created the heavens that Majola is pointing to as vertical, God already existed, which means his heaven was already there when he created the heavens we point to in the sky.
Mfethu uqedile, the fact that kwazulu akkhukuma ngalo akalazi just weakens his argument
@@qinisanigumede6837 lapho ufike evutha 😂
Lendzaba ye interpretation itsandza kuzulisana between literally as well as understanding. Probably Scripture can interpret itself. I hope Sikhakhane was right nakatsi kubuhlungu the Ps Zweli has been taken by the the new Theories sekufanele ayophendvuka
Yabona mine once kwaba namagama amade afundile 🤦, I miss the simple basics of faith as Paul says , “although highly educated, I choose to come to you and preach Christ and Him crucified “ period.
I tend to agree with Majola at this, the danger of Mr Ngqulunga's position is relying on extrabiblical knowledge.
Sola scriptura is the way guys.
Lets discuss theology not mystical knowledge. Ngqulunga is on the mystical interpretation of scripture.
Angazi Sbari angikaze ngifike ku lona🤣🤣defeated
Just to help uMajola, the heaven of God is spiritual. It is in the northenmost part of the universe. It is spiritual material. This north is even pointed by the compass. Even Job says so. He ascended physically pointing to a physical direction of heaven. Jerusalem is located strategically on the north in order to also assist in pointing to where heaven is.
Heaven is spiritual
Ngiyamthanda uMajola ukhuluma iqiniso elimsulwa.
Lento yezulu Eli phisycal or not abambelele kuyo lomfo ayikho qha
Nigxaswe ikampani enkulu kanje
Am not sure if you guys read our comments or not... But am really feeling like every theologian that comes in states that every thing or most of the things writen is not real but an example or illustration since the people God dealt with wear stupid or couldn't or wouldn't be able to understand spiritual things
He's there for the sake of argument and not helping
Jesus ascended up to Heaven, Holy spirit is here on earth...John 16:7 says it is to your advantage that I go away;for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; bt if I depart, I will send Him to you....Jesus is in Heaven waiting to come back.
Into enkinga isingisi la😮
Ayi mina angazi ukuthi umajola ubhidwa yhini.
Ayi ayi ayi😂😮
Olwani ulaka olungaka... At times I felt ukuthi Majola was disrespected n bullied.... M nt saying he was right or wrong
Disrespected how? Batheni?
Ay le power hour le ayina power nixx. Siba is taking sides in this private discussion among people who just had more issues with each other.
The windows of heaven are there in heaven as the bible says, BUT they are not windows of earth. Earthly windows are physical as we all know and see them. Lana we are talking about the One who walked on water, therefore, what can make it difficult for Him to make windows of [in] heaven? He physically ascended into heaven and if He's still there whether physically or spiritually, yini engamehlula to have a seat in heaven? [Whether heaven is spiritual or physical, kodwa ukukho okungamehlula]. Well, my point is not whether heaven is spiritual or physical and we know ukuthi according to Philippians 3:20...our citizenship is in heaven. I just wanted to correct yento yamafastele ezulu
You read God from the school, John 14:26 Jesus said; But the Helper, the Holy spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things....only the Holy spirit left by Jesus on earth as a promise to teach the children of God
Mr Majola did he do hermeneutics? Because in that course there is what is called Anthropomorphosm. Where God is said to use the language of common men to bring understanding to men. God does not speak the language of men. He uses context to speak to people.
Ae uMajola maarn!😂😂
Majola😂😂uhlulekile mfundisi
Ningaphikisani ngemavi lalite ngobe Loko kuchithisa abanye ukukholwa kwabo
Hayi abazalwane umajola bambuza into engekho ngeke sekutheni gk bezotshintsha lento ethethwa libible babuza into ezingenasizathu maan
Majola is slowly becoming like Skhakhane and will lose his credibility if uqhuba kanje
Jesus disappeared to appear in our hearts. This was not a vertical ascension.
Can you give a reference
Bamqeda uMajola😂😂😂😂😂
Majola unenhlamba yoh 😂😂😂😂
Ikuphi I Jerusalem
Kodwa bayamcindezela uMajola
Niyamhlanganyela lento ayingeni dawu yefestile tuuu y lomfo ungamxini ngoba izulu liphi kanti
I now understand why Majola engafuni ukubizwa ngo Mfundisi 🤦🏻♂️arguing like a youth league
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ngibona ingcono leyonto kunokuthanda ubufundisi ungafundile? Ulifundisani ibandla ungazi likuphi uzulu😂😂
Sola scriptura (scripture alone)
Majola embarrassed himself on this one. At least he agrees at the end that he doesn't know what he is talking about. He should have just said that from the beginning and saved us a lot of time.
😂
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂and siyabulela cz wow he was confused nyani
@@yandisamatiso3833 😂😂 ugcine sekhuluma ngokubuya ka Jesu
We ve educated but uncivilised people.
LoMfundisi is not a good debator. Aks a question and let the other give an answer once he finishes do the followup.
Niyaphi kulamafestile ninga phenduli ukuthi niyakholwana uba uYesu wanyuselwa ezulwini wayaphezulu not ecaleni
Disappointing Siba again fails to do his job as a host. Just because you are an eloquent speaker doesn't mean everything you say is correct. UMajola mebuza umbuzo ku uSbali, akaphenduli uSbali uyajikajika lento evamiswe ukwezwa abo Gobhozi no Jiyane ethule noSiba engasho lutho athule engathi akezwa kodwa uma Sbali ebuza uSiba usukuma amengenyawo e demand impendulo. ay USiba uwrong ngeke. Kule show ubemele uSbali Last ubemele uJiyane ay iyafavour lendoda. Uma ibhayibheli lithi izulu liphezulu uMajola eyi prover lento, uSbali why enga prove eyakhe i narrative nge bhayibheli efuna ukusitshela ngepolitiki "ama scholars wara wara". Umakuthiwa phezulu(up) yi direction leyo it doesn't matter whether its spiritual or not. Siba lungisa Iphutha lakho ndoda kowube ne backbone ubeyindoda uyeke ukukhetha ama side ubeyi Host ebalanced.
crinjyyy😖
The last two episodes were just a waste of time and nothing was edifying 🤞
The host is unfair to Majola in many ways. One making it clear that he is on Buthelezi's side, two laughing at Majola, three giving Majola limited time, four asking Majola questions in a manner that makes him and shenge win
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This show must make it clear as to whether it exists to help believers know more about God or it's all about proving how much the other knows versus the other
Heaven is not physical but the physical Jesus physically went to it🥲…
Ayi mina angazi ukuthi umajola ubhidwa yhini.
Ayi ayi ayi😂😮