nice job possible leak there at the end i would have sniffed it and pretty close to the wall but i see they moved it for the car! but forsure on its way out would have thrown a bid at that nice red nice video such a good dog
Did you add oil to the blower motor fan? If not, is there a reason you don't? I got in the habit of oiling the condenser fan and blower fan motor every other year when I clean/check my systems (my house, and a couple of relatives houses). My father-in-law used to do it at his house, I started at his recommendation.
@@SurfBrosHVAC I take the motors apart and oil the felt, so it probably isn't a recommended service. I can't say it does anything, the oldest motors are on my mom's Trane, it's a 2006 (compressor and air handler with gas heater). The only issue she has had with the system was that the contactor failed in 2017 (about a month after she had a service call, same company that did the install). The technician wrote up that the connections in the cut-off were corroded, causing the contactor to overheat, which in turn sent a surge through the thermostat, causing it to fail as well. I can't confirm any of that, but was disappointed they hadn't noticed any issue with the contactor a month earlier. Also, I think they just connected the new system to the old cutoff, which shouldn't be a problem but it seems many installers replace the cutoff. I was out of town at the time, but I started doing maintenance checks on her system after that. My house has a 9 year old GE heat pump that I have been checking, it runs great. I'm really impressed with whoever installed it (was here before we moved in). The air handler is pristine, where as most air handlers I see have some buildup, even with regular filter changes.
Honestly I have not ever oiled a modern blower motor but I know it is in theory possible. If someone wants to do it to their own it may not be a bad idea as it may prolong life but the amount of time it takes me to do plus the risk-reward may not be worth it as a contractor. I'd have to charge enough for the service to make money and then you're messing with a part of the system that by design wasn't really built to be messed with so any issues that result from taking apart the motor would fall on me. I wouldn't be mad about the contactor. They don't really fail all that often so it was most likely a somewhat random occurrence and they wouldn't have been able to catch it on a check up. That's not a guarantee though they still may have missed something. Not replacing the disconnect is just kind of lazy. It may be written in the original contract that they would replace it and then the installers didn't do it. That tends to happen a lot. Just sucks if it fails five years in cause then there's a lot of finger pointing.
Had similar but different call this week. 19 year old rheem 2.5 ton won’t start. 100 degrees in Orlando. Bad compressor. Was sat of Memorial Day weekend. So looking at Tuesday to get anything new. Installed newer used 3 ton compressor. Back to cooling within 24 hours of putting hands on the system. Paid $180 for used compressor, new amrad 50/7.5 cap with east start, clean condenser coil and 4.5 lbs of MO99. What should I charge? Is $1,400 too cheap? Just wondering. Thanks
I would've been more for that honestly. If you do that type of work that cheap then people will recommend you out for that type of work. A company I worked for had this issue and they hated their clientele but they had a name to never replace and that's all the calls they'd get
I discounted this one. Typically we'd be more like $550 but I wanted to clean it. We got a 5 star review within an hour of leaving their home. Gotta grow that online presence a little
@@SurfBrosHVAC then i gotta ask, is the hate that pro techs often throw at them.... is it because the products they keep seeing in houses are crap? or the install jobs are crap?
Most HVAC issues are install related in one way or another. That is not always the case but usually it is. You may not know for 2 or 10 years but then the poor practices will rear their ugly head. What part of the world are you located in? If it is very cold then it is true that a heat pump will operate less efficiently than gas. It's a lot more complex than that though and in some parts of the world - certain European countries - they are using majority heat pumps in very cold climates with great success. Our business number is on our channel. If you really want to talk about it feel free to give me a call. I'm the one who answers the phone
@@SurfBrosHVAC other coast. But I know myself and others see the videos posted about benefits of pumps, get interested, and then call up local HVAC Cos only to have them go "Yeah we can get them, but they're awful, unreliable, have compromises that people hate, etc etc etc." I have a terrible install of the internal handler, the sheetmetal ductwork looks like failed origami, so this was one of the things I asked about while weighing my options. Seeing pros like you guys who are actually on the front line talk about this stuff carries a different weight than a TH-cam tech vlogger.
I will say this… Heat pumps have more little components than a typical AC. Doing a low quality install on an AC is usually not that big a deal. Doing that same low quality work on a heat pump is more likely to affect the system in a negative way. A compressor on a heat pump also tends to have a slightly lower life due to running in both summer and winter. High quality install offsets this stuff for the most part but not 100%. I used to see 30 year old heat pumps in AZ all the time when I worked in Phoenix. Some of them weren’t even maintained well. So it’s not really consistent. If I were a consumer and knew everything I know I would 100% get a heat pump in a mild climate. In a cold climate it gets a little more iffy which direction to go
Yeah I discounted it a little. We charge $250 for a T4 and usually we'd be like $250-$300 for a blower clean. We were just chilling though and didn't have other stuff going on so I figured let's throw it in there cheap and get the system a little cleaner for them
Fair prices and quality workmanship, will give you a customer for life. Plus word of mouth to family and friends. Dope shit guys 🤙🏽
Dope shit guys, what a dumb ass grow up.
nice job possible leak there at the end i would have sniffed it and pretty close to the wall but i see they moved it for the car! but forsure on its way out would have thrown a bid at that nice red nice video such a good dog
Yeah usually I would too it wasn't low so I think it slipped my mind
Love the videos, such a vibe
Yall remind me of my old install crew ❤
Good ole times
San Diego vibes my friend. We're always just kicking it with our customers
It just cooled down a little so I suddenly have time to edit some footage. Lots of videos incoming
The kind of unit that looks so fragile you're almost afraid to touch it. Nice job!
Facts
Did you add oil to the blower motor fan? If not, is there a reason you don't? I got in the habit of oiling the condenser fan and blower fan motor every other year when I clean/check my systems (my house, and a couple of relatives houses). My father-in-law used to do it at his house, I started at his recommendation.
How old is your system? Around 30 years ago they stopped putting oil ports on most residential motors. Bearings are sealed
@@SurfBrosHVAC I take the motors apart and oil the felt, so it probably isn't a recommended service. I can't say it does anything, the oldest motors are on my mom's Trane, it's a 2006 (compressor and air handler with gas heater). The only issue she has had with the system was that the contactor failed in 2017 (about a month after she had a service call, same company that did the install). The technician wrote up that the connections in the cut-off were corroded, causing the contactor to overheat, which in turn sent a surge through the thermostat, causing it to fail as well. I can't confirm any of that, but was disappointed they hadn't noticed any issue with the contactor a month earlier. Also, I think they just connected the new system to the old cutoff, which shouldn't be a problem but it seems many installers replace the cutoff. I was out of town at the time, but I started doing maintenance checks on her system after that. My house has a 9 year old GE heat pump that I have been checking, it runs great. I'm really impressed with whoever installed it (was here before we moved in). The air handler is pristine, where as most air handlers I see have some buildup, even with regular filter changes.
Honestly I have not ever oiled a modern blower motor but I know it is in theory possible. If someone wants to do it to their own it may not be a bad idea as it may prolong life but the amount of time it takes me to do plus the risk-reward may not be worth it as a contractor. I'd have to charge enough for the service to make money and then you're messing with a part of the system that by design wasn't really built to be messed with so any issues that result from taking apart the motor would fall on me.
I wouldn't be mad about the contactor. They don't really fail all that often so it was most likely a somewhat random occurrence and they wouldn't have been able to catch it on a check up. That's not a guarantee though they still may have missed something. Not replacing the disconnect is just kind of lazy. It may be written in the original contract that they would replace it and then the installers didn't do it. That tends to happen a lot. Just sucks if it fails five years in cause then there's a lot of finger pointing.
thanks for the vids!
We're working on getting you a shirt
Had similar but different call this week. 19 year old rheem 2.5 ton won’t start. 100 degrees in Orlando. Bad compressor. Was sat of Memorial Day weekend. So looking at Tuesday to get anything new. Installed newer used 3 ton compressor. Back to cooling within 24 hours of putting hands on the system. Paid $180 for used compressor, new amrad 50/7.5 cap with east start, clean condenser coil and 4.5 lbs of MO99. What should I charge? Is $1,400 too cheap? Just wondering. Thanks
I would've been more for that honestly. If you do that type of work that cheap then people will recommend you out for that type of work. A company I worked for had this issue and they hated their clientele but they had a name to never replace and that's all the calls they'd get
bro your prices are a steal, we’d be at like $950 for that call.
I discounted this one. Typically we'd be more like $550 but I wanted to clean it. We got a 5 star review within an hour of leaving their home. Gotta grow that online presence a little
work on heat pumps much?
Oh yeah
@@SurfBrosHVAC then i gotta ask, is the hate that pro techs often throw at them.... is it because the products they keep seeing in houses are crap? or the install jobs are crap?
Most HVAC issues are install related in one way or another. That is not always the case but usually it is. You may not know for 2 or 10 years but then the poor practices will rear their ugly head. What part of the world are you located in? If it is very cold then it is true that a heat pump will operate less efficiently than gas. It's a lot more complex than that though and in some parts of the world - certain European countries - they are using majority heat pumps in very cold climates with great success. Our business number is on our channel. If you really want to talk about it feel free to give me a call. I'm the one who answers the phone
@@SurfBrosHVAC other coast. But I know myself and others see the videos posted about benefits of pumps, get interested, and then call up local HVAC Cos only to have them go "Yeah we can get them, but they're awful, unreliable, have compromises that people hate, etc etc etc."
I have a terrible install of the internal handler, the sheetmetal ductwork looks like failed origami, so this was one of the things I asked about while weighing my options.
Seeing pros like you guys who are actually on the front line talk about this stuff carries a different weight than a TH-cam tech vlogger.
I will say this… Heat pumps have more little components than a typical AC. Doing a low quality install on an AC is usually not that big a deal. Doing that same low quality work on a heat pump is more likely to affect the system in a negative way. A compressor on a heat pump also tends to have a slightly lower life due to running in both summer and winter. High quality install offsets this stuff for the most part but not 100%. I used to see 30 year old heat pumps in AZ all the time when I worked in Phoenix. Some of them weren’t even maintained well. So it’s not really consistent. If I were a consumer and knew everything I know I would 100% get a heat pump in a mild climate. In a cold climate it gets a little more iffy which direction to go
We charge 400 for a blower wheel cleaning 😂
Yeah I discounted it a little. We charge $250 for a T4 and usually we'd be like $250-$300 for a blower clean. We were just chilling though and didn't have other stuff going on so I figured let's throw it in there cheap and get the system a little cleaner for them
You lost about $300 on that one.
Nope. Thermostat cost $70. Gained a customer for life. Sure I discounted the call but we definitely didn't lose money