The Robocop reference machine pistol called Violator returning would be great as well. I would like all manufacturers to at least all make shields, grenades and melee weapons and to expand on the arsenal. Machine pistols and Sniper rifles from Torgue doing explosive bullets, while other things to gyrojet would be good. maybe something else as well.
You know, I usually hate when weapons brand swap (fuckin Dahl hellfire my ass) But I do feel that the cobra and Omni canon will be a warm welcome to become listed under the Torgue brand. Also they should go back to primarily explosive technology, the fact you can get a Harold in every element just didn’t feel right to me. Maybe have dual element like explosive/fire (new nukem/worldburn).
@@KeizerSosebeeHaving Tourge weapons no longer be element locked was one of the *best* things about 3 letting them be "always splash damage" and allowing the "yellow" element be unique and obtainable on non Tourge weapons the second best. Why the fuck would you want to regressed back to a problem 2 had?
@@KeizerSosebee Explosions=Splash Damage. Explosions≠Radiation. Tourge is still the main source of splash damage. Like it's cool that there is 6 different types of damage per weapon category instead of sniper, SMG not being allowed a yellow element (cobra and double anarchy BL1 ftw) and rockets to have a non elemental. damage variant.
Personally the Flakker on any of the games it appeared in was a favorite of mine. Something about firing it and seeing the screen wipe everything out in a wall of explosions felt satisfying.
It was a MONSTER in TPS if you played Athena and built into the Aspis. You could barrel stuff and charge your shield with your own Flakker while doing massive damage, Mass healing all your teammates, wipe all the adds when you threw your shield, simultaneously REVIVE your whole team, and then just do it again six seconds later. It was NUTS.
The peak opener is my favourite. It is the most "balanced" in many ways as its so powerful you barely need to slag normal enemies on OP levels for it to be great. Its also very satisfying!
@@invincible5065 Sure, on normal and tvhm it is way too powerful. But I mean on OP levels it reaches a perfect balance which few guns have. OP is so unbalanced that most guys are unusable, but the peak feels just right
That's an interesting point. That shows the difficulty of balancing. If you balance things to work well on easy (normal) or Normal (TVHM) difficulty then it's not gonna feel good once you get to the hard (UVHM) or expert (OP levels) difficulties. On the other hand if you focus on making things work well on harder difficulties then everything before end game is going to feel too easy and meaningless. So it's logical to say or think "just make a good scaling system where guns get more powerful as you go and feel good along the whole path." Yes, that is exactly what all of us want. I'm not going to pretend that's easy or like I understand anything about programming or coding or whatever. If it's too time intensive to get absolutely perfect the hard choice is which way do you lean? Would a game company rather have the first 50% of the game feel great and the last 50% feel like a chore, or vice versa? Vast majority of players won't ever make it to the end game, so you have to lean to making the early game the best. For example I have a friend that's played bl2 on and off since I first met him and he's never even completed UVHM. They did pretty good in bl3 though so hopefully balancing going forward isn't such an issue. I apologize for the long message.
@@JaredTG. Exactly, I agree with you. It's hard to balance, I have no doubt about it. But they seemed to have it perfect with level 72 with OP 8 and then they went back and messed with it again. But since the peak is hidden behind a tough raid boss, it seems a good reward for that challenge. Also, they never brought back the slag mechanic so it was never that great, so I prefer guns that work without it
His full name isn't "Mr. Torgue Flexington". We learn in BL2 his full god given name is "Mr. Torgue HIGH FIVE Flexington." He deserves to be addressed as such if going for full name.
My very first playthrough on BL3, I got a random Laser Sploder to drop early on and it carried me through a good part of the game. So I have a soft spot for it.
I will admit the main reason I originally used the Plaguebearer on my main FL4K was because of how freakin pretty it looks when you shoot it in Fade Away. That said, the fact it vaporizes every red dot on the screen is definitely a bonus.
I think the sword Splosion in wonderlands deserved a mention. If you have spore Worden as your main, or secondary class, then you can have 12 shots in the mag. This increases the damage the gun does by 360%.
@@Ki11ersix i understand that. Just the way you said it in the video made me assume you meant it as the ogre in general, not the torgue brand specifically.
Ive had an affinity to the Nukem ever since BL2 where i would use it on Krieg. I farmed the hell out of it in BL3 and still use it on my Mayhem 11 Moze. With the right parts and the 150% / 90% hp anointment, it truly lives up to its name. An underrated monster at mobbing in my opinion.
I'm fairly certain the Roizen's Thorns is a world drop as well as I've gotten multiple versions at multiple levels without farming. Gotta say, it was my go-to hand cannon in base BL3 on the two different playthroughs I did on Fl4k and Zane respectively.
Peak opener is amazing, just wanted to state the obvious The Harold might be the most iconic BL2 weapon, maybe beaten by the infinity (as it was popular with beginners specially) or the Grog or Norfleet? I would like to see a list of the most iconic weapons from each game
Weird as fuck that this video is how I learned that the Unkempt Harold is apparently full auto on BL2. Happy to see the Redline up the list, I still remember watching you absolutely tear bosses apart with it in your Shotgun Moze (please tell me I'm not making this up, my memory is bad)
Redline is my raid boss killer. Moze with a Revolter and "Some for the Road" skill can stack an insane amount of sticky's in 5 seconds. Switch to Guardian Angel or Unforgiven, and it will consistently one mag Seer. Raid bosses are so trivial with this setup.
I still think that BL4 should have a Donkinator 5000 weapon. It's red text is every 5th critical hit has an elemental effect AND a sound bit of "use the fish for cover!" plays in your character's voice.
Playing through wonderlands right now and i can't praise the swordsplosion in this game enough, jam it in sticky mode and go ham on any boss even 10 levels above you!
My brother loves the creamer for his eraser zane. You've never seen death like eraser zane with a creamer death. He'd rock the mod that hits crits every hit i guess, with a barrier so he doesn't die, a mantis cannon for killskills and a tobogan to slide and he'd run away to get a straight line with a bunch of red dots then boom no more red dots. I call it boring and doesn't work with guardian takedown. He calls it boring and doesn't work with guardian takedown but kills everything else.
i know this video is old but on console bl 1 2 and tps you can close the game so you can farm rewards faster instead of cloud save and you can also get multiple of them without collecting the the reward too but fo that you need a 2nd controller
The loot dropping like crazy can be good if you want to be able to try different builds. As you can at least ensure you'll get the gear you need, just may not be the perfect rolls. And the matchmaking I think they should take notes from D2R or BL1 remastered those two games were pretty solid for matchmaking options.
Dang, the #2 is basically the Scourge's big brother, better at everything. On a side note though, the Mongol is a fantastic Vladof launcher. I would put the BL3 version down as number 10th best launcher across the games.
Now, in borderlands classic I had some pretty insane rolls on some stuff that I was very fond of. For me, one of my favorite torgue weapons ever was the bastard legendary machine gun, and in particular, my roll. I had one with mat_2 and the frantic accessory which, for those familiar with the borderlands classic weapon prefix system, are basically the only combination of parts that could actually give it a listed prefix of "frantic." The frantic fire rate bonus isn't confered in full unless the prefix is actually listed on the weapon card. Mine had the best mag, it had the AR body, and memory serves i wanna say stock 4, although part of me wants to say stock 5. I'd use it on my Spectre build Lilith as essentially a big SMG paired with the main event, my god roll non elemental Dahl penetrator which I could use due to the max ammo regeneration roll on my spectre class mod. The real kicker that allowed me to use the torgue bastard on my lilith despite the accuracy penalty intrinsic to it was the kill skill that gave me increased accuracy and damage, which was boosted by my class mod. So i could get the first kill and then my frantic bastard was basically just as accurate if not more accurate than a maxed heavy gunner Roland. That kill skill was a huge part of my build cause it allowed me to use lots of weapons like the bastard where they're given increased damage in exchange for worse accuracy. For example, I could use a double gasher as basically a shotgun. Ik most won't remember those weapons like I do, but for me they're an essential part of my borderlands 1 experience
Naturally the DPUH or Unkempt Harold is #1. Couldn't have been any other Torgue gun. Honestly I prefer the BL3 Unkempt Harold as in many ways it is better than the BL2 DPUH. The BL2 version is so cracked OP that on many playthroughs I refused to use it. While a Unkempt Harold of every variety in the hands of Torgue Cross Promotion Moze is just so much fun with a sweeper com.
I personally like the swordsplosion in wonderlands better, 3x projectiles and 3 shot combinde with bonus damage shot via melee and you melt most bosses, just a piss to farm it
Redline is best on Moze. You can put hundreds of rounds on a boss compare that with the unforgiving with 150% while iron cub is active. I'm actually currently reinstalling this game after nearly a year.
Huh. The plaguebearer is basically Maya's scorn in rocket launcher form. Except it actually kills shit. Not that scorn was meant for killing anything lol.
I used my level 9 Double Anarchy as Lilith literally through THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN AND KNOXX’S DLC. The gun is insane. I did find upgrade later on but even against level 40 enemies, a level 9 Double Anarchy obliterates enemies.
My favorite is the lob. I remember getting it in my first 3 playthrough from the eden 6 destroyer boss and I was just BLOWN away by the fact I was shooting a FUCKING SUN at one ammo per shot. It's probably my favorite gun in the game.
Always loved the Plaguebearer on my FL4K fadeaway splash damage build. With two fang and the infernal wish it deletes anything, whether that be mobs or bosses. Makes me want to reinstall BL3 honestly.
This comment is super unrelated to the video but id really like to get you two cents K6. Idk if this has been brought up in one of your what we want to see in BL4 posts but i was thinking if Gearbox sticks with the whole some manufacturers dont have specific gun types thing ie. No Hyperion pistols, Jakobs Subs, stuff like that. Would you like to see those missing weapon types become Legendaries or Pearls? So in BL4 there are still no normal Hyperion Pistols but the Lady Fist is now a Hyperion legendary Pistol if that makes sense?
Dude! How did you forget the torgue lazer assault rifle?? I love that bad boy! I dont know where you can obtain it but i got it from the eridian gun launcher.
I think the BL3 version of the Harold is unequivocally better. I think the Cobra from BL1 should have definitely made the top 10 too. The one that I did not hear mentioned that I love is the Tiggs Boom.
What killed bl3 for me was the nerfs, no dedicated spawns off rip, and mayhem level which shouldn’t have been a requirement to challenge me in the game. Might give the game another chance to see how it’s aged. Still one of the roughest launches I’ve seen in gaming history
@7:48 BL3 and BL1 versions of the Ogre however are not Torgue, but Vladof and Atlas respectively. No idea why they keep changing its manufacturer. I'd actually say the BL1 version is the overall best of the bunch, but of course you can't put an Atlas gun on Torgue list :D On the topic of Ogre tho, I would replace it with the Peak Opener on the list. It's ridiculously strong weapon (not just in the digi peak where it's aimed at) and while you do need to kill Haderax to get it, I'd still say it is easier than getting an Ogre. @11:54 The Ahab doesn't imo belong even in the honorable mentions. On its own it's absolute garbage weapon and the World Burn supersedes it in the only role it ever was used as. Doesn't deserve a slot in best weapons list imo, when you need to abuse a glitch and then not even have ammo in the gun to get any use of the it. And you can get very similar results with any other Torgue launcher on that glitch. @12:02 Interesting that you mentioned Moonscaper, since only thing I ever remember people using it for was flinging yourself around the map. As a conventional gun it was quite bad imo. @12:03 I would actually put The Lob on the list instead of the Roisen's Thorns and move it to honorable mentions. While it was arguably the worst weapon in the game on launch, the buff really lifted it to the top echelons and the small nerf afterwards didn't really hurt it. Also as it can spawn in all elements it makes it more versatile. Devil's Foursum and R.Y.N.A.H. are also IMO worth noting. While both have their issues, they can be worked around and do really nasty damage.
Great points. I need to hire you to proofread me. Weird that you didn't catch the worst part... I used a Hellfire instead of a Double Anarchy in the opening lol
@@Ki11ersix Yeah I thought that your "Anarchy" looked a bit weird, but wasn't entirely sure, as I don't know the BL1 weapon skins that well. Looking into it now, Anarchies can't actually even spawn as elemental, so should've known from that alone :D
lol shows how much I was paying attention while getting that footage lol. I reinstalled BL1. Loaded in. Looked at slot one. Saw the DA and started killing. My dumbass thought the elemental damage was from Lilith’s abilities lol
Unkempt Harold hands down. Not only best torgue gun, one of the best gun in borderlands 2 pre sequel and maybe 3(i didn't have it). İ think Kerblaster should be in this list also.
I think people such as myself would be confused on that DA pick. It seems to be the only gun with multiple manufacturers. Was confused when it was 10. I BARELY play BL1. Unless, possibly, I am mistaken and there are multiple-multiple manufacturer weapons in BL1...
After hearing about the nerfs and buffs the bl3 flakker went through i have 1 question. Why nerf something so hard or even at all if your players are having fun with it??
alright so about flakker a -33% nerf for a gun dealing 100 damage would leave it at 66.6 damage a +50% buff would bring it back to exactly the same 100 damage since 50% of 66.6 is 33.3 so if my understanding is correct the 50% buff after the nerf just made it how it used to be from the beginning
To this day I still believe the Flakker nerf was the most spiteful nerf gearbox has done. They *really* wanted players to stop having fun with that weapon 😂
I really just don’t get what they were thinking in year 1 of bl3, just completely gutting so many weapons/skills/playstyles. Always gonna be thankful that they basically just said “screw it” like a year in and just buffed everything by huge amounts. There’s always gonna be some things that need a nerf sure, but the way they went about things just wasn’t right.
Yeah, the first 6 months give or take were rough. Game was still fun, but very rough around the edges. Glad we kept fighting to get Gearbox to make positive changes. Still could have been even better, but I'm grateful for what we got in the end.
@@Ki11ersix Proprietary License gonna be there along with Smog, Redistributor and Oldridian? Also, does the Smog's Amp Damage can be doubled when you shoot it pass through Zane's Barrier? Btw Maliwan List is gonna be hard. Cuz Free Radical and Plasma Coil are gonna fight it out on who's Top Maliwan gun
Ah I love these guns so much in 3? Why, I already loved the bl2 versions, but on bl3? I feel like a walking artillery cannon with a mech as a secondary for EVEN MORE COOL *SS EXPLOSIONS!
For me BL3 Flakker, BL3 Hive, B1 cobra, Seeker, kerblaster, DPUH, rynahh, world burn, creamer bl3, carnage ,plauge bearer, double anarchy, swords splosion, loveable rouge, lump, carnuncle dont care about the rest
The peak opener shouldn't be a honourable mention💀💀 It is probably one of few borderlands 2 guns that can work in the op levels without a solid build. Otherwise, good list.
I really hope in bl4 Torgue snipers return and the Unkempt Harold returns as a Pearl which it's earned the right to be.
The Robocop reference machine pistol called Violator returning would be great as well. I would like all manufacturers to at least all make shields, grenades and melee weapons and to expand on the arsenal. Machine pistols and Sniper rifles from Torgue doing explosive bullets, while other things to gyrojet would be good. maybe something else as well.
You know, I usually hate when weapons brand swap (fuckin Dahl hellfire my ass)
But I do feel that the cobra and Omni canon will be a warm welcome to become listed under the Torgue brand. Also they should go back to primarily explosive technology, the fact you can get a Harold in every element just didn’t feel right to me. Maybe have dual element like explosive/fire (new nukem/worldburn).
@@KeizerSosebeeHaving Tourge weapons no longer be element locked was one of the *best* things about 3 letting them be "always splash damage" and allowing the "yellow" element be unique and obtainable on non Tourge weapons the second best.
Why the fuck would you want to regressed back to a problem 2 had?
@@DwWarWolf let me answer your question with another question: EXPLOSIONS?
@@KeizerSosebee Explosions=Splash Damage. Explosions≠Radiation. Tourge is still the main source of splash damage. Like it's cool that there is 6 different types of damage per weapon category instead of sniper, SMG not being allowed a yellow element (cobra and double anarchy BL1 ftw) and rockets to have a non elemental. damage variant.
The most powerfull Torgue weapon : his sentence in Torgue Campaing of Carnage "Nothing is more badass than treating a woman with respect"
damn straight.
We all know that unkempt Harold is on the list
What about the Pimpernel?
@ASirensFlame yah but it's a good gun in borderlands 2
@ASirensFlamethere are A LOT of other good gun in bl2
Even just torgue weapon in bl2
me when I lie @ASirensFlame
@@eclipsedarksouls6036 not a torgue weapon
I think the Ravager from BL2 deserves at least an honorable mention.
LOVE that gun. You're right. Oversight on my part.
honestly thought it was gonna be number 2, especially because he always mentions how he likes it..like above lol
Personally the Flakker on any of the games it appeared in was a favorite of mine. Something about firing it and seeing the screen wipe everything out in a wall of explosions felt satisfying.
It was a MONSTER in TPS if you played Athena and built into the Aspis. You could barrel stuff and charge your shield with your own Flakker while doing massive damage, Mass healing all your teammates, wipe all the adds when you threw your shield, simultaneously REVIVE your whole team, and then just do it again six seconds later. It was NUTS.
i have a modded one on bl3 that has +300k blast radius. Its a nuke. If its on your screen its dead
The peak opener is my favourite. It is the most "balanced" in many ways as its so powerful you barely need to slag normal enemies on OP levels for it to be great. Its also very satisfying!
Plus the peak opener on Krieg is just too OP
most op weopon by far. i had a level 35 one somehow carry throughout tvhm
@@invincible5065 Sure, on normal and tvhm it is way too powerful. But I mean on OP levels it reaches a perfect balance which few guns have. OP is so unbalanced that most guys are unusable, but the peak feels just right
That's an interesting point. That shows the difficulty of balancing. If you balance things to work well on easy (normal) or Normal (TVHM) difficulty then it's not gonna feel good once you get to the hard (UVHM) or expert (OP levels) difficulties. On the other hand if you focus on making things work well on harder difficulties then everything before end game is going to feel too easy and meaningless. So it's logical to say or think "just make a good scaling system where guns get more powerful as you go and feel good along the whole path." Yes, that is exactly what all of us want. I'm not going to pretend that's easy or like I understand anything about programming or coding or whatever. If it's too time intensive to get absolutely perfect the hard choice is which way do you lean? Would a game company rather have the first 50% of the game feel great and the last 50% feel like a chore, or vice versa? Vast majority of players won't ever make it to the end game, so you have to lean to making the early game the best. For example I have a friend that's played bl2 on and off since I first met him and he's never even completed UVHM. They did pretty good in bl3 though so hopefully balancing going forward isn't such an issue. I apologize for the long message.
@@JaredTG. Exactly, I agree with you. It's hard to balance, I have no doubt about it. But they seemed to have it perfect with level 72 with OP 8 and then they went back and messed with it again. But since the peak is hidden behind a tough raid boss, it seems a good reward for that challenge. Also, they never brought back the slag mechanic so it was never that great, so I prefer guns that work without it
All I gotta say is you’re the reason why I’m replaying all the borderlands games again and I love it.
Thanks man!
His full name isn't "Mr. Torgue Flexington". We learn in BL2 his full god given name is "Mr. Torgue HIGH FIVE Flexington." He deserves to be addressed as such if going for full name.
I've ruined everything.
@@Ki11ersix Just like the ocean. That's why it was nuked.
My very first playthrough on BL3, I got a random Laser Sploder to drop early on and it carried me through a good part of the game. So I have a soft spot for it.
Mine was the Alchemist.... that damn thing hard carried story mode in my first run
@@captainspaulding5963alchemist+transformer
I will admit the main reason I originally used the Plaguebearer on my main FL4K was because of how freakin pretty it looks when you shoot it in Fade Away. That said, the fact it vaporizes every red dot on the screen is definitely a bonus.
I think the sword Splosion in wonderlands deserved a mention. If you have spore Worden as your main, or secondary class, then you can have 12 shots in the mag. This increases the damage the gun does by 360%.
Surprised the Peak Opener didn’t make the list.
I had so much fun with the Swordsplosion, glad to see it on the list.
I love the prompt critical. I swear theirs SOO many awesome guns in bl3
Six: The Ogre's been around since Borderlands 1. But it's at its prime in Borderlands 2.
BL1 Ajax Ogre: Oh is it now?
Ajax Ogre, manufactured by Atlas. If you’re gonna try and correct me then you should probably do your research ;)
@@Ki11ersix i understand that. Just the way you said it in the video made me assume you meant it as the ogre in general, not the torgue brand specifically.
Ive had an affinity to the Nukem ever since BL2 where i would use it on Krieg. I farmed the hell out of it in BL3 and still use it on my Mayhem 11 Moze. With the right parts and the 150% / 90% hp anointment, it truly lives up to its name. An underrated monster at mobbing in my opinion.
Glad to see the roisens thorn on the list the look is so cool and it feels like a herald
I'm fairly certain the Roizen's Thorns is a world drop as well as I've gotten multiple versions at multiple levels without farming. Gotta say, it was my go-to hand cannon in base BL3 on the two different playthroughs I did on Fl4k and Zane respectively.
It is a world drop, it's just that specific enemy has an increased chance to drop it.
The bl2 carnage is a beast of a weapon that I feel sadly gets overshadowed by the op trifecta of Hyperion full auto shotguns.
Your double anarchy footage is actually a hellfire
Yeah, I’m dumb and thought I was holding the right gun lol
I think the plaguebearer shoul've been the number 1. I just love how it pretty much clears rooms no matter which vault hunter i use it on.
Peak opener is amazing, just wanted to state the obvious
The Harold might be the most iconic BL2 weapon, maybe beaten by the infinity (as it was popular with beginners specially) or the Grog or Norfleet? I would like to see a list of the most iconic weapons from each game
Weird as fuck that this video is how I learned that the Unkempt Harold is apparently full auto on BL2. Happy to see the Redline up the list, I still remember watching you absolutely tear bosses apart with it in your Shotgun Moze (please tell me I'm not making this up, my memory is bad)
Yep, it shreds.
Redline is my raid boss killer. Moze with a Revolter and "Some for the Road" skill can stack an insane amount of sticky's in 5 seconds. Switch to Guardian Angel or Unforgiven, and it will consistently one mag Seer. Raid bosses are so trivial with this setup.
it gets CRAZY
I still think that BL4 should have a Donkinator 5000 weapon. It's red text is every 5th critical hit has an elemental effect AND a sound bit of "use the fish for cover!" plays in your character's voice.
bl2 exodus added a k6 reference similar to this. Red text is "When the fish isn't enough" and shoots out the letters "D O N K"
@@scoobydoofan1110 yes and it's great but it's a mod, i'm saying GB should put it in the next vanilla game.
i know@@sonnyhernandez5002
I always loved using the nukem even though its not the greatest weapon lol
I mean your shooting a freaking nuke, how could you not love it
@@danteinpuro319 exactly haha
It's fun with a winter build Zane if you grab the ice variation. Giant snowballs everywhere!
Playing through wonderlands right now and i can't praise the swordsplosion in this game enough, jam it in sticky mode and go ham on any boss even 10 levels above you!
I wish the Torgue company tagline was "When you need different explosions for everyday of the week GET TORGUE!"
My brother loves the creamer for his eraser zane. You've never seen death like eraser zane with a creamer death. He'd rock the mod that hits crits every hit i guess, with a barrier so he doesn't die, a mantis cannon for killskills and a tobogan to slide and he'd run away to get a straight line with a bunch of red dots then boom no more red dots. I call it boring and doesn't work with guardian takedown. He calls it boring and doesn't work with guardian takedown but kills everything else.
I love how the TORGUE Pistols look in BL3. These giant ass Magnums are just so sexy.
i know this video is old but on console bl 1 2 and tps you can close the game so you can farm rewards faster instead of cloud save and you can also get multiple of them without collecting the the reward too but fo that you need a 2nd controller
The Critical Thug and Burning Scoville are my all time favorite Torgue weapons.
TORGUE MAKES THINGS EXPLODE END OF SALES PITCH!!
Sword-Splosion so good it’s the best weapon in another borderlands series being Wonderlands
The loot dropping like crazy can be good if you want to be able to try different builds. As you can at least ensure you'll get the gear you need, just may not be the perfect rolls. And the matchmaking I think they should take notes from D2R or BL1 remastered those two games were pretty solid for matchmaking options.
Dang, the #2 is basically the Scourge's big brother, better at everything.
On a side note though, the Mongol is a fantastic Vladof launcher. I would put the BL3 version down as number 10th best launcher across the games.
Ich war schon immer ein großer Fan der Flakker und würde mir wünschen das die BL3 Version wieder großartig wird!!!
Now, in borderlands classic I had some pretty insane rolls on some stuff that I was very fond of. For me, one of my favorite torgue weapons ever was the bastard legendary machine gun, and in particular, my roll. I had one with mat_2 and the frantic accessory which, for those familiar with the borderlands classic weapon prefix system, are basically the only combination of parts that could actually give it a listed prefix of "frantic." The frantic fire rate bonus isn't confered in full unless the prefix is actually listed on the weapon card. Mine had the best mag, it had the AR body, and memory serves i wanna say stock 4, although part of me wants to say stock 5.
I'd use it on my Spectre build Lilith as essentially a big SMG paired with the main event, my god roll non elemental Dahl penetrator which I could use due to the max ammo regeneration roll on my spectre class mod. The real kicker that allowed me to use the torgue bastard on my lilith despite the accuracy penalty intrinsic to it was the kill skill that gave me increased accuracy and damage, which was boosted by my class mod. So i could get the first kill and then my frantic bastard was basically just as accurate if not more accurate than a maxed heavy gunner Roland. That kill skill was a huge part of my build cause it allowed me to use lots of weapons like the bastard where they're given increased damage in exchange for worse accuracy. For example, I could use a double gasher as basically a shotgun. Ik most won't remember those weapons like I do, but for me they're an essential part of my borderlands 1 experience
Naturally the DPUH or Unkempt Harold is #1. Couldn't have been any other Torgue gun. Honestly I prefer the BL3 Unkempt Harold as in many ways it is better than the BL2 DPUH. The BL2 version is so cracked OP that on many playthroughs I refused to use it. While a Unkempt Harold of every variety in the hands of Torgue Cross Promotion Moze is just so much fun with a sweeper com.
BL3 UH also comes in all flavors, it’s much more versatile
Even in BL3 version is better the BL2 Harold is a solid contender for one of the most iconic guns in borderlands history.
Nah just use sal
I personally like the swordsplosion in wonderlands better, 3x projectiles and 3 shot combinde with bonus damage shot via melee and you melt most bosses, just a piss to farm it
dude still uploading borderlands content… absolute legend status❤
Appreciate YOU for watching. I friggin LOVE these games.
Redline is best on Moze. You can put hundreds of rounds on a boss compare that with the unforgiving with 150% while iron cub is active. I'm actually currently reinstalling this game after nearly a year.
The wombat shotgun from pre sequel because you can use it to farm Nel for the skullmasher without collecting all the letters. Easy grinder materials
Of COURSE are Harold the best Torgue Gun in the history Borderlands 😈💥🤴
Huh. The plaguebearer is basically Maya's scorn in rocket launcher form. Except it actually kills shit. Not that scorn was meant for killing anything lol.
I used my level 9 Double Anarchy as Lilith literally through THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN AND KNOXX’S DLC. The gun is insane. I did find upgrade later on but even against level 40 enemies, a level 9 Double Anarchy obliterates enemies.
My favorite is the lob. I remember getting it in my first 3 playthrough from the eden 6 destroyer boss and I was just
BLOWN away by the fact I was shooting a FUCKING SUN at one ammo per shot. It's probably my favorite gun in the game.
I use the plaguebearer on exclusively moze with phalanx and tlr. Ice been able to stack like 8 or 9 million shield before.
Would love to see a top 10 grenades!
Always loved the Plaguebearer on my FL4K fadeaway splash damage build. With two fang and the infernal wish it deletes anything, whether that be mobs or bosses. Makes me want to reinstall BL3 honestly.
You should do a best version video for the guns across all 3 games showing which version is the best one
I remeber my first Ogre drop in BL2. Was a hell ride to farm on Op 10. : (
Wonder if your gonna do a mr tongue mod playthrough on bl2 since he's coming out soon
This comment is super unrelated to the video but id really like to get you two cents K6. Idk if this has been brought up in one of your what we want to see in BL4 posts but i was thinking if Gearbox sticks with the whole some manufacturers dont have specific gun types thing ie. No Hyperion pistols, Jakobs Subs, stuff like that. Would you like to see those missing weapon types become Legendaries or Pearls? So in BL4 there are still no normal Hyperion Pistols but the Lady Fist is now a Hyperion legendary Pistol if that makes sense?
that would be awesome.
Dude! How did you forget the torgue lazer assault rifle?? I love that bad boy! I dont know where you can obtain it but i got it from the eridian gun launcher.
I think the BL3 version of the Harold is unequivocally better. I think the Cobra from BL1 should have definitely made the top 10 too. The one that I did not hear mentioned that I love is the Tiggs Boom.
Babe wake up K6 posted literally anything and I love his content so much that I’ll drop anything to watch him
Appreciate the hell out of you. Thanks man!
I literally call the Rosen's Thorn the baby Unkempt Harold, just like like the Magnificent is the baby Light show.
The first time i played kriegs dlc in bl3 i got the prompt critical multiple times as world drops in different characters
No mention of the Backburner? I always hear you talk about it way more than plaguebearer (since they’re similar)
It's Vladof. I prefer it over the Plaguebearer fwiw
What killed bl3 for me was the nerfs, no dedicated spawns off rip, and mayhem level which shouldn’t have been a requirement to challenge me in the game. Might give the game another chance to see how it’s aged. Still one of the roughest launches I’ve seen in gaming history
Yeah bad launch scared a lot of people away. It’s MUCH better now thankfully
Just so you know... if you decrease 100 by 33% u end up with 67, if you increase it by 50%, you end up with about 100. You don't add on top of it...
I like turtles
You blow outta porportion the evil lilith fight. I'll take that fight over driving across the map to savage lee ANY day
That’s fair
Lovable rogue, contained blast, alchemist and tigg's boom for me maybe
@7:48 BL3 and BL1 versions of the Ogre however are not Torgue, but Vladof and Atlas respectively. No idea why they keep changing its manufacturer. I'd actually say the BL1 version is the overall best of the bunch, but of course you can't put an Atlas gun on Torgue list :D On the topic of Ogre tho, I would replace it with the Peak Opener on the list. It's ridiculously strong weapon (not just in the digi peak where it's aimed at) and while you do need to kill Haderax to get it, I'd still say it is easier than getting an Ogre.
@11:54 The Ahab doesn't imo belong even in the honorable mentions. On its own it's absolute garbage weapon and the World Burn supersedes it in the only role it ever was used as. Doesn't deserve a slot in best weapons list imo, when you need to abuse a glitch and then not even have ammo in the gun to get any use of the it. And you can get very similar results with any other Torgue launcher on that glitch.
@12:02 Interesting that you mentioned Moonscaper, since only thing I ever remember people using it for was flinging yourself around the map. As a conventional gun it was quite bad imo.
@12:03 I would actually put The Lob on the list instead of the Roisen's Thorns and move it to honorable mentions. While it was arguably the worst weapon in the game on launch, the buff really lifted it to the top echelons and the small nerf afterwards didn't really hurt it. Also as it can spawn in all elements it makes it more versatile.
Devil's Foursum and R.Y.N.A.H. are also IMO worth noting. While both have their issues, they can be worked around and do really nasty damage.
Great points. I need to hire you to proofread me.
Weird that you didn't catch the worst part... I used a Hellfire instead of a Double Anarchy in the opening lol
@@Ki11ersix Yeah I thought that your "Anarchy" looked a bit weird, but wasn't entirely sure, as I don't know the BL1 weapon skins that well. Looking into it now, Anarchies can't actually even spawn as elemental, so should've known from that alone :D
lol shows how much I was paying attention while getting that footage lol. I reinstalled BL1. Loaded in. Looked at slot one. Saw the DA and started killing. My dumbass thought the elemental damage was from Lilith’s abilities lol
The bastard with brick it's so good.
100% agree with the bl2 version of the unkempt harold
I do love EXPLOSIONS!!!
I think we all love grandma flexington not just mr torgue
A good old BL2 Torgue blue rarity assault rifle is fun to shoot
K6 I know how much you love Torgue Assault Rifles in B3 but honestly didn't expect you to make your 1-10 all Torgue Assault Rifles from BL3
lol
That too Juliet's Dazzle at number 1. Weird but okay.
SHHH!! It's a surprise!
I liked the Laser-sploder from BL3 for my Moze.
I have a question about borderlands 1. If you are at max level then why you still gaining/stacking xp?
On BL1? No clue. Didn’t know you did
Swordsplosion on
Tiny Tina's Wonderlands was the best version of it.
i find it hilarious that out of these top tens ive watched so far, i havent seen a single gun out of tiny tinas wonderland
Currently doing a Moze/Torgue allegiance run. I named her "MORGUE." Seems fitting.
haha, if you have Torgue Cross Promo you're gonna be headed there
@@Ki11ersix I had to stop using the Flakker cos...yeah...
the ogre and double penetrating devestator on a Grenadier axton was fun
Unkempt Harold hands down. Not only best torgue gun, one of the best gun in borderlands 2 pre sequel and maybe 3(i didn't have it). İ think Kerblaster should be in this list also.
I think people such as myself would be confused on that DA pick. It seems to be the only gun with multiple manufacturers. Was confused when it was 10. I BARELY play BL1.
Unless, possibly, I am mistaken and there are multiple-multiple manufacturer weapons in BL1...
Yeah, in BL1 several guns have multiple manufacturer options. It's weird.
After hearing about the nerfs and buffs the bl3 flakker went through i have 1 question.
Why nerf something so hard or even at all if your players are having fun with it??
On this one, no clue. Same with when they nerfed Clawbringer in Wonderlands early on. Sometimes nerfs make sense (Evil Smasher glitch for example).
I heard cause that's all players was using and wiping everything so quick so they wanted other weapons to get some shine
Yeah, it’s kinda true. Literally everyone was JUST using Flakker. It was a bit bonkers. Realistically they should have adjusted other stuff up though
alright so about flakker
a -33% nerf for a gun dealing 100 damage would leave it at 66.6 damage
a +50% buff would bring it back to exactly the same 100 damage since 50% of 66.6 is 33.3
so if my understanding is correct the 50% buff after the nerf just made it how it used to be from the beginning
I got a soft spot for the Bastard in BL1, especially if its got a good fire rate
To this day I still believe the Flakker nerf was the most spiteful nerf gearbox has done. They *really* wanted players to stop having fun with that weapon 😂
Yep.
Plaugeberear deserved that spot for sure.
I wish the Juliet’s dazzle was honorable mention
I'm putting this up before I watch, but I predict the unkempt harold will be number 1.
Maaaaybe
no ravager? id think it would be at least in the honorable mentions
Hey go back and try the uncontained blast from dlc 3 on BL3. Can come in all elements and is obtained from Caber Dow or whatever the hell his name is.
I love the Contained Blast
wasnt aware of redlines existense, ty
I love the BL3 Flakker. Is it the best gun? No. But it is the most fun.
I really just don’t get what they were thinking in year 1 of bl3, just completely gutting so many weapons/skills/playstyles. Always gonna be thankful that they basically just said “screw it” like a year in and just buffed everything by huge amounts. There’s always gonna be some things that need a nerf sure, but the way they went about things just wasn’t right.
Yeah, the first 6 months give or take were rough. Game was still fun, but very rough around the edges. Glad we kept fighting to get Gearbox to make positive changes. Still could have been even better, but I'm grateful for what we got in the end.
@@Ki11ersixcouldn’t have said it better myself 👍
Yep, without the doubt. I knew you'd put the Unkempt Harold at #1. What's next? Maliwan?
Hyperion.
@@Ki11ersix Proprietary License gonna be there along with Smog, Redistributor and Oldridian? Also, does the Smog's Amp Damage can be doubled when you shoot it pass through Zane's Barrier?
Btw Maliwan List is gonna be hard. Cuz Free Radical and Plasma Coil are gonna fight it out on who's Top Maliwan gun
Prop License is great. Haven't even started on the script yet. Conference Call on BL2 has to be on there though.
@@Ki11ersix Yep, BL2 Conference Call with Bee Shield was peak before the Nerfing Hand of Gamer God happened.
Ah I love these guns so much in 3?
Why, I already loved the bl2 versions, but on bl3?
I feel like a walking artillery cannon with a mech as a secondary for EVEN MORE COOL *SS EXPLOSIONS!
Whichever one can blow up the ocean is the one I like best
Wheres the peak opener one this list, ive seen that gun only shred enemies to smithereens
Yeah I like it but I like these more
Of course, the second best character in borderlands has some of the most fun weapons in the game
For me BL3 Flakker, BL3 Hive, B1 cobra, Seeker, kerblaster, DPUH, rynahh, world burn, creamer bl3, carnage ,plauge bearer, double anarchy, swords splosion, loveable rouge, lump, carnuncle dont care about the rest
The peak opener shouldn't be a honourable mention💀💀
It is probably one of few borderlands 2 guns that can work in the op levels without a solid build. Otherwise, good list.
There’s always a degree of personal bias with these lists
I wonder what Mr.Torgues Grandma would pick ??
a story.
Peak opener??? Why wasn’t it number 1 or 2? Or even on the list? It’s soooooo op