no pity. They need to be conference mates with CSU. They dont have what it takes to be in a power conference. They will dilute the Big 12. We already have Kansas, we dont need another Kansas. At least Kansas has basketball, CU has literally nothing but a pretty neat mascot.
@@bryndrson8289 for a big part of my younger years I lived in Boulder,. My Dad has season tickets for 40 years... I've seen the Mallory, Fairbanks, McCartney , Neuheisel , Barnett years....the mentality of the regents through the big 8 and 12 years. Things have changed since the move to the PAC 12..a lack of emphasis to make football a priority or to keep the program competitive has been purposeful...this is an historic program, top twenty all time in many categories ..that's been turned into a joke...that is sad... nothing like a Saturday early afternoon with the Flatirons in the backdrop...I can still smell the air
As a Nebraska fan, I really would not mind seeing CU come to the B1G but I just am not sure it happens. Would be fun playing CU again annually. Wish the best for you guys.
Seriously B10 aren't idiots, they won't touch us with a 10ft pole. We deserve mountain west or even FBS. At least we can get a .500 season from MW or FBS
@@henrylee8510 FBS? We are FBS? Clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Oregon is a smaller school, that makes less money, that is in a smaller market. You need the brand and you need to win, that's it.
Finally nice to see a CU perspective on this. But honestly I don't mind where they go. If they go to the Big Ten, great! Or if they go to the Big 12, great!
Well we suck. I was a student in the early 90s and it's clear that CU no longer deserves being in a power 5. Big 10 is not dumb enough to let us in. Best go to mountain west and eke out a 7 win season there. In B10...double digit losses year in and year out.
There should be a merger between the Big XII and Pac 12. Call it the Big West 16. Big West 16: Western Conference - Washington, Oregon, Stanford, California, BYU, Utah, Colorado, Oregon State. Eastern Conference - Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Kansas State, Houston, and Kansas.
Fans from the Big 12 are still salty about CU bolting, but the Denver TV market is too big to ignore. Besides, if we knew that the Longhorns would be leaving, I think the Buffs might have stuck with the Big 12.
I agree with Adam. Big 10 first, but unlikely. Then Big 12. Going to the Pac12 was not a good decision in the first place because of apathetic fan bases and administrations that have to have their arms twisted to value football, plus the time zone issues that limit viewers across the country. It could have worked for CU if they would have had proper administrative support. But the Pac12 is now finished. Big 12 has more support from administrations and fan bases. CU is now paying the price for years of very poor administrative support. CU fan support could ramp up again significantly!--but the administration needs to wake up.
@@planetmooola Nope. The administration is the reason they have been "terrible at sports". Plus the Administration is responsible for alienating half the population of Colorado. Next time when the chancellor takes the AD with him to speak to alumni groups he might want to leave his climate change agenda behind and address a vision for how they plan to take their sports to the next level.
The Pac12 should stick with its legacy and brand and stay together. Consider adding 2 schools, but play with 10 this year if you need to. The travel schedule will kill this USC & UCLA move to the Big10.
What is probably going to happen is Notre Dame makes the move to the B1G and Stanford goes with them to form an 18 school conference. Oregon, Washington, Utah, Colorado, and the two Arizona schools go to the Big 12 to make an 18 team conference. Being in a third super conference will be vital going forward and the Pac 12 schools most likely know this.
@@jasonboness3871 No they aren't. Stanford is down in football right now but they had a great run not to long ago. Oregon doesn't even come close to Stanford in anything other than football, not academically or market size. The B1G values both of those over football.
😁 All the more reason to join then, though you may soon have NO CHOICE! But, their is something that your neglecting to consider: If your not a FBS football team anymore, you will loose 25 Scholarship along with most of your operating budget for your athletics program from less TV revenue comming in than the the PAC-12! And, thus, your football team is not going to be as good - because most of the kids that go their now won't anymore! 😂
Colorado goes to Big 12 and also bring Nebraska back to the Big Twelve. Texas will be "cannon fodder" in the SEC. Oklahoma will be ok but will not win the conference.
Sports today is all about recruiting and recruiting today is all about NIL. Players are going to the highest bidder. If your administration does not buy into it, you are doomed to also-ran status. Oregon would be a great get for the Big 12 but I think they will find a way to get into the Big 10 because Phil Knight can't have his flagship school in a second-tier conference. AZ, ASU, CU and Utah will not bring the amount of money into the Big 10 to justify taking them but they will make good members of the Big 12.
This guy said it strait and right on. Colorado, ASU and AZ., know that the combo of the 4 schools is the strength and all 3, not just Colorado realize having a need to ride the coattails of Utah. PAC, unless some miracle happens is dead and for myself I I am angry at those who let this happen, but we will move on and at least the 4 of us will live to fight another day. We leave PAC is done then let Washington and Oregon try to salvage something if they still want to hang around the phone waiting for that B10 phone call that may never come.
@@AjarnEddie laugh it up but utah can go solo and that will give the entire state to the big 12 since they already have byu. No more market splitting. As for the osu comment, come on now from portland to coos bay all you see is camo, green, and yellow. Plenty of red all throughout the state here.
I agree and I am a CU grad. It's a joke of a program now. Should go to FBS and get a .500 record. All these idiots thinking B10 will even give CU time of day. I have a better chance with Margot Robbie.
@@henrylee8510 I have always had a soft spot for Colorado but with the broncos and other pro sports the Denver market isn’t as lucrative as he could be . There isn’t great recruiting as well In Colorado.
what has happened to colorado... they were an absolute powerhouse from the late 80's to the mid 90's .... and then the wheels fell off from the program... sad to see as a football fan
They do not mention Oregon . . . the big dog left in the PAC-12 that is the most likely to join the Big 10. Since Colorado joined the PAC-12, they have offered nothing to the conference.
@@nickmoffitt140 Well, not academics. Colorado has a 75% acceptance rate - it's easier to be accepted than rejected. But it is the flagship of a growing state and in close proximity to Texas.
@@fitzwilliamdarcy5263 acceptance rate probably isn't a great measuring stick for quality of education. Colorado is still AAU. Most big ten schools are somewhere between 50 and 80 acceptance... And then theres northwestern.
@@nickmoffitt140 I agree Nick. It's the administration. Make Sports Great Again! Value it. Fans will show up again and support once sports become a higher priority and they see success.
@@nickmoffitt140 I don't think the B10 is a strong academic conference either. When almost 80% of applicants are being accepted, the school is not particularly competitive. I'm not sure how that isn't a measuring stick for the quality of student. Colorado's admissions stats are much closer to Arizona State than schools ranked in the top 50-60.
If I was Big 12 I would say no way to Colorado. Thats like your wife leaving you for another man and then she wants to come back after the other man leaves her. The Denver market should have no bearing in the decision and I think that people touting the Denver market are overestimating its real value.
I'm a KU and Oregon fan, I'm glad to finally hear a CU and Denver perspective on this. Do people in the Denver area or the front range care enough about the Buffaloes?
I know they jilted Big 12, but Big 12 has to be on the hunt and get schools that can get you a little more GOR money as opposed to just sit still. If Big 12 does not go after Colorado, Utah, Az and Az state, we're in trouble! Only BIG and SEC have no worries!
Denver is a great sports town and there is plenty of love for CU even with all the pro sports. Over 15 years of mostly bad football has left us apathetic, along with moving to a conference with little interest in sports compared to the other Power 5. CU attendance still remains solid (surprisingly). CU needs to refocus and prioritize sports like Baylor did.
Colorado football hasn’t been relevant since the 90’s I don’t think anyone is dying to have Colorado sad to say it but I don’t think we will ever see Colorado return to national prominence. I miss buffs football we’re not even competitive now 😭
Y'all left the Big 12. I heard the re affirmative statement today to stay with the PAC 12. Big 12 don't want y'all. Combined Arizona schools have almost 3 times the viewership. Thanks but Y'all deserve the Mountain West payouts.
@@Montfortracing There are only 2 power conferences. CU goes to the Big 12 with Arizona, ASU, and Utah. Washington and Oregon may join them. WSU and OSU go to Mtn West
It's not good in basketball either. I mean, they've been a 22ish win team the last 4 years, but it's not known nor has it ever been known as a basketball school. Best bet would be for CU to downgrade it's expectations and join the Big Sky. CU football would be a easy 8 win team in the Big Sky, probably even manage some 10 win seasons. They'd be absolute units in basketball. 25 win seasons. But CU can't compete anymore with the big boys. They just can't.
Colorado should stay put. The PAC 12 still has Stanford , Cal, Oregon and Washington. Not to mention Utah are defending Conference Champions. Who does the BIG 12 have? Oklahoma State? Baylor?
Oklahoma st and Baylor are bigger in football. But Iowa state.ksu.tcu. Are also bettter then everyone except..Oregon and Washington (in think can Join big 10)
Cal and Stanford care more about academics than FB..Oregon and UW are already planning their exit...the B12 has stability..they have 12 schools that want to be there (aside from KU LOL)..the PAC doesnt have that...
Big12 has TV slots that are in better times to get more eyes from CST and EST. The PAC12, for all its leaders thinking they are savants allowed Larry Scott to put your Tier1 rights with Fox in 2014 which up until 2019, meant being on FS1 or FS2. But the BIG10 got the better time slots even when the BIG and PAC12 tier 1 games went to Fox. The tier 2 rights (2nd best game) was put on ESPN with prime time PST in mind at 7:30/8:00, which means 9:30/10:00 in CST and 10:30/11:00 in EST. TV exposure and eyeballs to generate best Media Right revenues is the economic driver here. Also consider that with UCLA and USC going to the BIG, the other PAC12 teams that use to get to play in LA against USC and UCLA and thus better access to the LA Metro area recruiting base, that base is now going to be tied with the BIG10. So you are a top ESPN 300 type recruit from SoCAL, if you don't go to UCLA or USC, high probability you go to the BIG10 and now be able to play on TV in time slots where rabid football fans East of the Mississippi river see your games. I live in an SEC footprint state, you go into a sports pub/bar in SEC country and there are TV sets all over the place with multiple games going on in the 2:30 CST slot (CBS SEC game, ABC/ESPN/ESPN/SEC Network), the 6:00/6:30 CST on ESPN/ESPN2/SEC Network/ABC. So if you are schools like ASU, Arizona, Utah, and CU, playing games against Texas schools gets you in the Texas HS football footprint. USC and UCLA have no incentives once they are in the BIG10 to schedule games with its former PAC12 members. Why would they?
Staying put only works if Oregon stays and that doesn't look like its going to happen. Colorado has to get it out or get stuck in the mountain west. The domino big 10 is waiting on is Norte Dame. If this happens then Oregon and Wash maybe Stanford get invited. PAC without those schools is dead.
the B12 i acting like a conference that wants to grow..they are seeing an opportunity and after being the hunted these last 10-12 years, they see the chance to be the aggressor..the PAC could have finished the B12 off last year, but opted to not take any action..the B12 is acting like a conference that is tired of being victim..now its the PACs turn..soon it'll be the ACC
uhhhh... outside of the SEC and BIG, the Big 12 is primed to be the best conference. Both the Pac-10 and ACC are just a ticking timebomb away from collapsing. The Big 12 will be a (im guessing) 20-22 team league, so no. the Big 12 isnt desperate. the ACC and Pac-10 are
The Big 12 is doing what they should be doing, going after teams after the news of the LA schools announced their leaving to the Big Ten. Also the four schools they reached out to are not at the top of the pecking order to join the Big Ten or the SEC. If Oregon and UW leave to the Big Ten, then it would be better for schools like Colorado to join their old conference, and maybe in the long run join a SEC or Big Ten.
@@texanbearvol3198 as for the four schools the Big 12 reached out to, where they go depends on where Notre Dame go. It's possible that if ND picks the Big Ten, then the Pac 12 could expand, or CU and maybe Utah could go with Oregon or UW to the SEC, cuz I'm sure that conference would like to expand their footprint out west, if they're able to add Clemson and FSU
Sad what CU has turned into since they left the big 12 ...it's hard to feel pity for them as they have inflicted it upon themselves..
no pity. They need to be conference mates with CSU. They dont have what it takes to be in a power conference. They will dilute the Big 12. We already have Kansas, we dont need another Kansas. At least Kansas has basketball, CU has literally nothing but a pretty neat mascot.
It's not their fault. Joey Harrington and the Oregon Ducks done them in.
It had nothing to do with what conference they were in and everything to do with poor management and stupid rules.
@@bryndrson8289 for a big part of my younger years I lived in Boulder,. My Dad has season tickets for 40 years... I've seen the Mallory, Fairbanks, McCartney , Neuheisel , Barnett years....the mentality of the regents through the big 8 and 12 years. Things have changed since the move to the PAC 12..a lack of emphasis to make football a priority or to keep the program competitive has been purposeful...this is an historic program, top twenty all time in many categories ..that's been turned into a joke...that is sad... nothing like a Saturday early afternoon with the Flatirons in the backdrop...I can still smell the air
As a Nebraska fan, I really would not mind seeing CU come to the B1G but I just am not sure it happens. Would be fun playing CU again annually. Wish the best for you guys.
Sure would be nice if y'all came back. I'm saying Nebraska.
Colorado could play Nebraska for LAST in the BIG TEN. ha ha
big 10 never going to take a school like CU they just dont have tv money
Seriously B10 aren't idiots, they won't touch us with a 10ft pole. We deserve mountain west or even FBS. At least we can get a .500 season from MW or FBS
@@henrylee8510 FBS? We are FBS? Clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Oregon is a smaller school, that makes less money, that is in a smaller market.
You need the brand and you need to win, that's it.
welcome home Colorado. Signed Texas Tech fan
Baylor fan, welcome back Colorado
I will take Boise or sdsu before cu
Finally nice to see a CU perspective on this. But honestly I don't mind where they go. If they go to the Big Ten, great! Or if they go to the Big 12, great!
Well we suck. I was a student in the early 90s and it's clear that CU no longer deserves being in a power 5. Big 10 is not dumb enough to let us in. Best go to mountain west and eke out a 7 win season there. In B10...double digit losses year in and year out.
If Colorado was winning at all I could see it but Colorado is horrible..
They are not going to the Big 10
There should be a merger between the Big XII and Pac 12. Call it the Big West 16.
Big West 16:
Western Conference - Washington, Oregon, Stanford, California, BYU, Utah, Colorado, Oregon State.
Eastern Conference - Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Kansas State, Houston, and Kansas.
Fans from the Big 12 are still salty about CU bolting, but the Denver TV market is too big to ignore. Besides, if we knew that the Longhorns would be leaving, I think the Buffs might have stuck with the Big 12.
CU has been hot trash for a long time, dont be so sure Big12 will toss a life line.
As a Nebraska fan I'm sad to see all of this happening. Texas ruined the big 12 and I hope Colorado will make it to the big 10 to get our rivalry back
Please come to Big12! (from a BYU fan)
I agree with Adam. Big 10 first, but unlikely. Then Big 12. Going to the Pac12 was not a good decision in the first place because of apathetic fan bases and administrations that have to have their arms twisted to value football, plus the time zone issues that limit viewers across the country. It could have worked for CU if they would have had proper administrative support. But the Pac12 is now finished. Big 12 has more support from administrations and fan bases. CU is now paying the price for years of very poor administrative support. CU fan support could ramp up again significantly!--but the administration needs to wake up.
Cu is paying the price for being terrible at sports not the admin
@@planetmooola Nope. The administration is the reason they have been "terrible at sports". Plus the Administration is responsible for alienating half the population of Colorado. Next time when the chancellor takes the AD with him to speak to alumni groups he might want to leave his climate change agenda behind and address a vision for how they plan to take their sports to the next level.
Colorado was never good enough for the PAC 12, they should go to the Mountain West.
Back to big 12 for real rivalries
Gotta agree. As a utah fan colorado never felt like a rivalry.
I am not sure the big12 wants Colorado. Colorado might be a terrible position if the pac dissolves. Colorado would need to move before it dissolves
The Pac12 should stick with its legacy and brand and stay together. Consider adding 2 schools, but play with 10 this year if you need to. The travel schedule will kill this USC & UCLA move to the Big10.
Nope, sorry
USC and UCLA will love the weather in late October and and alt thourgh November 😅😂🤣
What is probably going to happen is Notre Dame makes the move to the B1G and Stanford goes with them to form an 18 school conference. Oregon, Washington, Utah, Colorado, and the two Arizona schools go to the Big 12 to make an 18 team conference. Being in a third super conference will be vital going forward and the Pac 12 schools most likely know this.
i think i speak for every new big 12 fan.. I support this message (though, take colorado out. They bring nothing to the table)
I'm going to say... NO Oregon is a bigger player than Stanford
@@jasonboness3871 No they aren't. Stanford is down in football right now but they had a great run not to long ago. Oregon doesn't even come close to Stanford in anything other than football, not academically or market size. The B1G values both of those over football.
@@craigkirsch6750 I heard Stanford may suspend D1 football if the Pac 12 goes down
@@Montfortracing Not if they were accepted to the B1G, they already sent in an application, so no
Time to join the Big Sky! 🐱🐻
Yep. They'd be an easy 8 win team every year. Probably multiple 10 win seasons and do really well. It is what it is.
😁 All the more reason to join then, though you may soon have NO CHOICE! But, their is something that your neglecting to consider: If your not a FBS football team anymore, you will loose 25 Scholarship along with most of your operating budget for your athletics program from less TV revenue comming in than the the PAC-12! And, thus, your football team is not going to be as good - because most of the kids that go their now won't anymore! 😂
Colorado goes to Big 12 and also bring Nebraska back to the Big Twelve. Texas will be "cannon fodder" in the SEC. Oklahoma will be ok but will not win the conference.
Colorado is almost certainly heading back to the Big 12.
I am hearing that there is opposition to CU returning to the Big 12 because they split the conference to go to the Pac 12.
There’s opposition from some fans in the big 12 that don’t want cu, believe me the feeling is mutual
BIGGER12 is better. AZ Board of Regents (AsU and UofA) with UT and CO fits.
Interesting.
Sports today is all about recruiting and recruiting today is all about NIL. Players are going to the highest bidder. If your administration does not buy into it, you are doomed to also-ran status. Oregon would be a great get for the Big 12 but I think they will find a way to get into the Big 10 because Phil Knight can't have his flagship school in a second-tier conference. AZ, ASU, CU and Utah will not bring the amount of money into the Big 10 to justify taking them but they will make good members of the Big 12.
This guy said it strait and right on. Colorado, ASU and AZ., know that the combo of the 4 schools is the strength and all 3, not just Colorado realize having a need to ride the coattails of Utah. PAC, unless some miracle happens is dead and for myself I I am angry at those who let this happen, but we will move on and at least the 4 of us will live to fight another day. We leave PAC is done then let Washington and Oregon try to salvage something if they still want to hang around the phone waiting for that B10 phone call that may never come.
Utah has the fan base of the OSU Beavers. They are toast.
Oregon is one the biggest players in College Football, they will be just fine.
@@AjarnEddie Enough to fill half to 2/3 of the Rose Bowl. LOL, eat your toast funny guy.
@@jasonboness3871 Except for the B10, hmm Think maybe SEC? LOL
@@AjarnEddie laugh it up but utah can go solo and that will give the entire state to the big 12 since they already have byu. No more market splitting. As for the osu comment, come on now from portland to coos bay all you see is camo, green, and yellow. Plenty of red all throughout the state here.
If I created a college in my basement called Teddy U that college would have the same chance of getting into the big ten as Colorado. 0 percent .
I agree and I am a CU grad. It's a joke of a program now. Should go to FBS and get a .500 record. All these idiots thinking B10 will even give CU time of day. I have a better chance with Margot Robbie.
@@henrylee8510 I have always had a soft spot for Colorado but with the broncos and other pro sports the Denver market isn’t as lucrative as he could be . There isn’t great recruiting as well In Colorado.
what has happened to colorado... they were an absolute powerhouse from the late 80's to the mid 90's .... and then the wheels fell off from the program... sad to see as a football fan
Again, Joey Harrington and the Oregon Ducks took care of them!
Not unlike Nebraska when they moved to the Big 10
A tier 2 football conference. As a fan of a current G5 program welcome to irrelevancy and no its not fun.
🐂 You aren't Buffaloing us, the NDSU Bison are better in Football! 😂
Buffs belong in the big XII. And get Barnett out of the booth and back on the field
They do not mention Oregon . . . the big dog left in the PAC-12 that is the most likely to join the Big 10. Since Colorado joined the PAC-12, they have offered nothing to the conference.
Colorado is a sleeping superpower based on geography, academics, size, and location. The upside is there but they keep getting in there own way
@@nickmoffitt140 Well, not academics. Colorado has a 75% acceptance rate - it's easier to be accepted than rejected. But it is the flagship of a growing state and in close proximity to Texas.
@@fitzwilliamdarcy5263 acceptance rate probably isn't a great measuring stick for quality of education. Colorado is still AAU. Most big ten schools are somewhere between 50 and 80 acceptance... And then theres northwestern.
@@nickmoffitt140 I agree Nick. It's the administration. Make Sports Great Again! Value it. Fans will show up again and support once sports become a higher priority and they see success.
@@nickmoffitt140 I don't think the B10 is a strong academic conference either.
When almost 80% of applicants are being accepted, the school is not particularly competitive. I'm not sure how that isn't a measuring stick for the quality of student. Colorado's admissions stats are much closer to Arizona State than schools ranked in the top 50-60.
If I was Big 12 I would say no way to Colorado. Thats like your wife leaving you for another man and then she wants to come back after the other man leaves her. The Denver market should have no bearing in the decision and I think that people touting the Denver market are overestimating its real value.
I'm a KU and Oregon fan, I'm glad to finally hear a CU and Denver perspective on this. Do people in the Denver area or the front range care enough about the Buffaloes?
I know they jilted Big 12, but Big 12 has to be on the hunt and get schools that can get you a little more GOR money as opposed to just sit still. If Big 12 does not go after Colorado, Utah, Az and Az state, we're in trouble! Only BIG and SEC have no worries!
It's about building the best conference as possible for ratings. Hurt feelings have no part in big business
Denver is a great sports town and there is plenty of love for CU even with all the pro sports. Over 15 years of mostly bad football has left us apathetic, along with moving to a conference with little interest in sports compared to the other Power 5. CU attendance still remains solid (surprisingly). CU needs to refocus and prioritize sports like Baylor did.
Colorado football hasn’t been relevant since the 90’s I don’t think anyone is dying to have Colorado sad to say it but I don’t think we will ever see Colorado return to national prominence. I miss buffs football we’re not even competitive now 😭
If you like dumping all over the buffs join Adam’s website they hate the buffs with a passion.
Why would you go to the Big 12? CU went in 1996 but then left fairly recently. There are other conferences. The Big 12 may not accept CU.
We don’t want them in the big 12
Go back to the Big 12.
You aren’t getting into the big ten .
Y'all left the Big 12. I heard the re affirmative statement today to stay with the PAC 12. Big 12 don't want y'all. Combined Arizona schools have almost 3 times the viewership. Thanks but Y'all deserve the Mountain West payouts.
Colorado to the mountain west to join Air Force and Colorado st
its where they belong. They just cant hang with the new big 12
Hell naw!
@@kingsolos3392 Watch it happen, CU is a sub par football school, with nothing else to offer...
If you're Colorado you want to remain in a power conference.
@@Montfortracing There are only 2 power conferences. CU goes to the Big 12 with Arizona, ASU, and Utah. Washington and Oregon may join them. WSU and OSU go to Mtn West
College football is dead!
Colorado should just shut down football, it’s nothing more than a doormat in football
It's not good in basketball either. I mean, they've been a 22ish win team the last 4 years, but it's not known nor has it ever been known as a basketball school. Best bet would be for CU to downgrade it's expectations and join the Big Sky. CU football would be a easy 8 win team in the Big Sky, probably even manage some 10 win seasons. They'd be absolute units in basketball. 25 win seasons. But CU can't compete anymore with the big boys. They just can't.
GREED HAS RUINED COLLEGE FOOTBALL MONEY AND TV
CU not valuable to B10....wont happen
They are must not top of the line. AAU, Denver market but they stink in the major sports
lol, CU is so bad and irrelevant I'd say Big Sky is more their speed.....
Colorado should stay put. The PAC 12 still has Stanford , Cal, Oregon and Washington. Not to mention Utah are defending Conference Champions. Who does the BIG 12 have? Oklahoma State? Baylor?
Oklahoma st and Baylor are bigger in football. But Iowa state.ksu.tcu. Are also bettter then everyone except..Oregon and Washington (in think can Join big 10)
They should. They bring nothing to the Big 12
Cal and Stanford care more about academics than FB..Oregon and UW are already planning their exit...the B12 has stability..they have 12 schools that want to be there (aside from KU LOL)..the PAC doesnt have that...
Big12 has TV slots that are in better times to get more eyes from CST and EST. The PAC12, for all its leaders thinking they are savants allowed Larry Scott to put your Tier1 rights with Fox in 2014 which up until 2019, meant being on FS1 or FS2. But the BIG10 got the better time slots even when the BIG and PAC12 tier 1 games went to Fox. The tier 2 rights (2nd best game) was put on ESPN with prime time PST in mind at 7:30/8:00, which means 9:30/10:00 in CST and 10:30/11:00 in EST.
TV exposure and eyeballs to generate best Media Right revenues is the economic driver here. Also consider that with UCLA and USC going to the BIG, the other PAC12 teams that use to get to play in LA against USC and UCLA and thus better access to the LA Metro area recruiting base, that base is now going to be tied with the BIG10. So you are a top ESPN 300 type recruit from SoCAL, if you don't go to UCLA or USC, high probability you go to the BIG10 and now be able to play on TV in time slots where rabid football fans East of the Mississippi river see your games. I live in an SEC footprint state, you go into a sports pub/bar in SEC country and there are TV sets all over the place with multiple games going on in the 2:30 CST slot (CBS SEC game, ABC/ESPN/ESPN/SEC Network), the 6:00/6:30 CST on ESPN/ESPN2/SEC Network/ABC.
So if you are schools like ASU, Arizona, Utah, and CU, playing games against Texas schools gets you in the Texas HS football footprint. USC and UCLA have no incentives once they are in the BIG10 to schedule games with its former PAC12 members. Why would they?
Staying put only works if Oregon stays and that doesn't look like its going to happen. Colorado has to get it out or get stuck in the mountain west.
The domino big 10 is waiting on is Norte Dame. If this happens then Oregon and Wash maybe Stanford get invited. PAC without those schools is dead.
Big 12 seems desperate
Not really. PAC 12 leftovers seem more so.
the B12 i acting like a conference that wants to grow..they are seeing an opportunity and after being the hunted these last 10-12 years, they see the chance to be the aggressor..the PAC could have finished the B12 off last year, but opted to not take any action..the B12 is acting like a conference that is tired of being victim..now its the PACs turn..soon it'll be the ACC
uhhhh... outside of the SEC and BIG, the Big 12 is primed to be the best conference. Both the Pac-10 and ACC are just a ticking timebomb away from collapsing. The Big 12 will be a (im guessing) 20-22 team league, so no. the Big 12 isnt desperate. the ACC and Pac-10 are
The Big 12 is doing what they should be doing, going after teams after the news of the LA schools announced their leaving to the Big Ten. Also the four schools they reached out to are not at the top of the pecking order to join the Big Ten or the SEC. If Oregon and UW leave to the Big Ten, then it would be better for schools like Colorado to join their old conference, and maybe in the long run join a SEC or Big Ten.
@@texanbearvol3198 as for the four schools the Big 12 reached out to, where they go depends on where Notre Dame go. It's possible that if ND picks the Big Ten, then the Pac 12 could expand, or CU and maybe Utah could go with Oregon or UW to the SEC, cuz I'm sure that conference would like to expand their footprint out west, if they're able to add Clemson and FSU