5 Raw minutes of pacing UP 4014 through Echo Canyon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- I am at a loss for words... We paced a Big Boy...
Q&A
Q~How fast were they going/What was your speed?
A~35-40 MPH (56KPH-64KPH)
Q~Did you have a shotgun mic on your camera?
A~Believe it or not I didn't! I shot this with my phone of of things!
Q~I see that the A (Front) engine on Big Boy leads the B engine by about 40 - 60 degrees at the start of the video. At the end of the video, both engines are in phase. What is causing this (slip or a slight average rolling radius difference ? Any ideas ?
A~From user Bill Cob: "...the lack of synchronization is tied to revs per mile. They are slightly different. Either one has slipped somewhere (as in a turn), or the tires on the drive wheels are slightly different in diameter. By 'tires', I mean the steel rings sweated onto the wheel rims. It's no big deal or concern. If there was a weight difference between the engines, then the tire or resulting rail deflection would cause a phase change, too. Slip is the usual culprit."
Q~Are they oil burners?
A~All UP Steam Program locomotives were converted to use No. 5 fuel oil. They originally burned coal.
Q~Were there a bunch a people?
A~Oh yes. Places were packed along the tracks. My estimate was around 2,000 people, although I figure there were actually more!
~E: Better video taken in the hot seat up: • Union Pacific 4014 & 8...
(Yes this the guy leaning out the window in those photos lmao)
![[4K] Pacing Big Boy 4014 & 844 in Echo Canyon - 60 fps](/img/n.gif)
I decided to update the description with a small Q&A to answer some questions I have seen pop up here in the comments. I did not believe this video would get over 1,000 views, let alone (at the time of writing this comment) 28,000 views! Thank you for all the support! My mind really has been blown by it! I really want to respond to all the comments here but they have been coming in for some time now and I just completely lost pace.
Q&A
Q~How fast were they going/What was your speed?
A~35-40 MPH (56KPH-64KPH)
Q~Did you have a shotgun mic on your camera?
A~Believe it or not I didn't! I shot this with my phone of of things!
Q~I see that the A (Front) engine on Big Boy leads the B engine by about 40 - 60 degrees at the start of the video. At the end of the video, both engines are in phase. What is causing this (slip or a slight average rolling radius difference ? Any ideas ?
A~From user Bill Cob: "...the lack of synchronization is tied to revs per mile. They are slightly different. Either one has slipped somewhere (as in a turn), or the tires on the drive wheels are slightly different in diameter. By 'tires', I mean the steel rings sweated onto the wheel rims. It's no big deal or concern. If there was a weight difference between the engines, then the tire or resulting rail deflection would cause a phase change, too. Slip is the usual culprit."
Q~Are they oil burners?
A~All UP Steam Program locomotives were converted to use No. 5 fuel oil. They originally burned coal.
Q~Were there a bunch a people?
A~Oh yes. Places were packed along the tracks. My estimate was around 2,000 people, although I figure there were actually more!
~E: Better video taken in the hot seat up: th-cam.com/video/vrxe_Vbswcg/w-d-xo.html
Apathe’ticCareBear
844 was in fact converted to oil burning well before the program; all the FEF-3s were converted to oil-burning as a precaution against a coal shortage.
Pure escapism for 5 minutes ! Love from Wales UK.
Everyone is in love with the "Big Boy". Thanks for sharing! Many of us followed along as the 4014 was refurbished in the UP Cheyenne shops.
How about 130 thousand views lol
I am so happy to have lived long enough to see the return of a Big Boy after an absence from the rails of sixty years!
Why does something so enormous fill me up to the brim with American pride.
Thanks to our parents, Grandparents that made this Great country what it is. Please don't let some loonie's wipe it all away. Many of our relatives died for what we have and hope to pass on to the next generation.
@@williamvandekieft591 well said. I'm headed nearly sad to call myself a millennial with what had become of the modern society but I am firmly in the group that believes in keeping it like it used to be and staying proud to be an American and to keep and fight for our freedom.
Human pride. The marvels of human intellect.
Agree. I saw my first steam locomotive in person recently and was just in aww 😊 of its noises and sounds. Like a living creature 👍🏼
Of all the many recent 4014 videos, this is the best. You almost feel you are onboard. Clanking rods, screaming turbo generators, and the best capture of Big Boy’s unique stack exhaust sound. Truly great.
2:37 is by far the best sound AND video capture of 4014...ever in my opinion.
I used to exercise race horses. This is the sound they make when they are running at their very best and breathing in perfect rhythm. It made my heart pound when I rode. This train and excellent video made my heart pound just like that. Thanks for the rush.
I'm an Aussie and the sound of this machine brings a tear to my eye. Thanks for the video.
Let me quote Big Bang Theory's Dr. Sheldon Cooper: "How can you not love trains ?"
He sure got that right !
I just found out yesterday, that Big Boy was back on the tracks, again. I've known for a long while, that this beautiful beast was being revived and was over the moon, about it. Yesterday, I got a recommendation, here on TH-cam, for a video showing Big Boy exiting the train-works bay, for a trial run or breaking-in, for it's first trial run and that footage brought tears to my eyes! I watched 2 more videos of early runs and more tears came. I am almost a 60 year old woman and I have always had a love for all trains, especially the old ones. I just love them and love it even more, when they roll, under their own power, down the tracks, with smoke or steam billowing everywhere! I really wish I could be up North, just to watch Big Boy roll by me, just ONE TIME! I thank all of the people, including this poster, for sharing any and all videos, showing these gorgeous beasts, of burden, for the rest of us, who are not able to be on scene, to witness this incredible machine! =)
From australia . great video ,fantastic locomotive i don't think 844 minds playing second fiddle.and the crowds ,how good are they ? coming out in there thousands, gotta love america . cheers to everyone.
:)
This locomotive nickname should be “Big Nasty “ ! 😆. It’s awesome
Why, when I watch the videos of Big Boy and the Challenger, does every care in the world, every ache and pain, every negative thought disappear and I end up wiping tears of sheer joy from my eyes.
Because you love steam.. and poetry in motion... you are not alone.
Built in my home town. It’s just phenomenal to see it running.
@@superwinfieldgold lmao bro you seem like you woke up with something in your ass
Lol, he's still mad south lost war
his excellency trump 𝙔𝙪𝙥! 𝙉𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙙𝙞𝙙 𝙜𝙚𝙩 𝙤𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙤𝙣𝙚! 𝙏𝙝𝙤𝙨𝙚 𝙨𝙤𝙧𝙚𝙨 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙤𝙤𝙯𝙞𝙣𝙜!!!!
The days when steel dinosaurs walked the earth!
That is so funny
I’m being sarcastic
@@drrollercoaster4130 hey my country don't have Train . this is a big beautiful Train., tell me what special about this Train and what it is used for
@@cherylali5113 Steam locomotives have been all but replaced by diesel/ electric locomotives in the modern era. To understand the Big Boy's significance, you have to understand 1800s American history and the settlement of the West. Steam locomotives, and the rails they ran on, gave America the ability to expand completely from the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans. These steam engines helped unite America into one, great entity and enabled people, industries, and goods to be speedily carried across the entire width and breadth of the Nation.
4014 is special because it has been brought back to full operation at a time when most of these locomotives have been long since scrapped or are museum pieces. Big Boy is a LIVING expression of America's desire to stretch 'from sea to shining sea'.
I would add that though the Big Boy was built in November of 1941, it's overall design carries on the great tradition of it's 1800's forebears.
For those who don't know: Note that 4014's drive wheels are much smaller that 844's. Big Boy was built for raw power, 844 was built for speed.
Don't want to confuse power/speed/tractive effort. Reciprocating steamers have engines with one gear-ratio, so the engineers who design them have to make compromises.
True the bigger the drivers the easier it is to get higher speeds but the 4000 class locomotives can do 75+ mph too. Just at a higher cost of steam and fuel vs 844 with larger drivers that don't have to turn as fast to attain the same result due to the engine moves further with each rotation.
The double valve gear on 4014 looks like a thoroughbred running.
Amazing only made better by the split second of a hotrod on the sidelines
I saw that too.
Hat's off to Union Pacific for restoring these to their former glory and actually putting them to work hauling freight like they're supposed to.
How did 28 people not love this? They must have less soul than a dandelion ! Epic film . Posterity owes you big time brother !
Two stunning pieces of machinery. You've got to congratulate UP for this mighty effort. Poetry in motion.
I wish they would build some more like this but with modern technology so they can actually be of use
I was pacing there too. You passed me at 4:36
Christian Jaussi lmao
You didn't tell us UP-844 was in on the action too! Fantastic!!
No road side parking or standing unless the Big Boy and 844 is blowing by! Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Aye no problem! We started to think that UHP figured out that they couldn't control the masses lol
TONNAGE BEHIND!!
A GRADE AHEAD !!
ROLLING SPEED !!
CLEAN STACK !!
REVERSER ALMOST CENTERED !!!
THE BADASS IS BACK!!
AT LAST HE IS BACK HOME!!!
THANK YOU, UNCLE PETE!!!
Lot Of Wheels on That Beast (4014): 4-8-8-4 ... And THAY's Just on The Loco Herself !!!
AND YOUR STUPID FOAMER TROLL STICKING OUT.
Cool video thanks for sharing! I was hypnotized there for a minute watching the motion and hearing the rods.
4014 & 844 are BOTH beautifully... THANK YOU UP FOR RESTORING THEM
844 = gorgeous
4014 = brute force
I love both... Big boy a bit more!! 😜
As it turns out 844 was never retired.
UP 4014 is one of the most beautiful examples of American engineering I have ever seen, great video
Nice close up pace. Big Boy truly is a Beast!
This is truly remarkable. A piece of American history coming back to life
Think about this. Every stroke of the piston in big boy delivers 6,500+ hp..... Every single stroke.
And every stroke on a steam engine is a power stroke. Unlike modern combustion that is every 2 or 4 strokes.
Cool facts we didn't know.
6500 hp ! ? That's amaising.
Thank you for that.cheers.
That's a hell of a lot of power
Not to mention she had at least 4 of them.
For all 16 drive wheels
Thanks, a question I have is answered.
Reciprocating pistons!
I am from Australia and love this engine. Watched all the salvage and rebuilding vids. This is the best yet of big boy in action. Well done.
Still say the 844 is one of my favorite engine just beautiful
A shout out to all the local police agencies and the Utah State Police! They were amazing. Friendly, calm and poised for putting up with all us crazed railfans. They were the best handling all that immense amount of traffic. Well done men and women in blue.
We used to go on board during the 1980-2010 era when it was parked at the LA Fairgrounds as an exhibit with other out of service trains. It has been amazing to watch it leave the fairgrounds in Pomona, CA and travel to the UP yard in Wyoming and get rehabbed and rebuilt and restored. Majestic.
Beautiful pieces of history. I've seen the 844 several times but am still waiting to see the 4014 in person.
I like how the traffic on the highway in the background is slowing down to pace the Big boy.
Beautiful. Wish I was born about 40 years earlier. We need more railroads.
That’s pretty awesome, it’s amazing to see that much metal move that fast.
Coming through my neighborhood enroute to Kansas City Union Station TOMORROW!! Wife and I can't wait!! Same feeling as Christmas Eve, back when I was a kid!!
That was fun. Thank for taking us along for the ride 👍
What a splendid piece of engineering! 4-8-8-4 if I can count correctly. Wouldn't be too many of those around. For those that like their steam engines BIG!
Yeah, There are only 8 left out of 25 Ever built
WOW!!! GREAT video!! A nice, long dose of the Big Boy from a perspective we don't have on the "sidelines." What an amazing machine. Thanks for planning the shoot so well and sharing it afterwards.
GREAT video ! you can't beat the sound of a mechanical symphony at speed
i wonder if they'll ever hook it up to a mile long (or more) train to let him show us what he was built to do ?
This is a break in run. They say they will be increasing the tonnage and speed but not likely to see her pull a long freight. Notice the difference in wheel size between 844 and 1014. 844 was a primarily a fast passenger engine and 1014 was all about pulling weight at a slower speed. I believe the top speed for 1014 is about 65 but she normally ran slower digging down for the hard pull. I guess I'm not the only one who thinks her motion looks like two wild horse racing across the plains.
@@Ravenscaller 72 was the fastest any Big Boy ever managed.
I've yet to see any Union Pacific steam loco run without a Nanny Diesel, so I highly doubt it.
@@michaelglinski3809 That Nanny Diesel is only there to provide Dynamic Breaking or to shunt the Steam Loco off into a siding if she breaks down for whatever reason.
I hope I get to see this run in real life some day. Seeing on here isn't the same but it's still awesome to see biggest engine ever made brought back to life before my very eyes.
I’ve had the pleasure of watching these giants at work on Sherman Hill in the 50’s and now across the nation in the 20’s. What a privilege.
Like watching them find the DNA of a T-Rex and bringing it back to life as it runs through the field.
TRULY MAGNIFICENT LIVING MACHINE. WONDERFULL VIDEO.
Going to Chicago to see this monster later in July. Can't wait! Thank you Union Pacific!!
Funny: earlier today I watched this documentary here at YT about the first steam engines (cars and locomotives) in the UK, early in the 1800s, and now this clip. Amazing what progress had been made in steam locomotives.
Poderiam mui bem utilizar, the portugueze....
Afinal não estamos nos EUA... Mas, in the Brazil...
Fantastic...thkq very much for sharing..one of the best for 4014..go baby go..
GO, BIG BOY, GO!!😎 I wanted to see him cruisin'. Great footage & info. Thx!💕
Everyone in that cab is living the dream.
For the 55th or 60th Anniversary Of Flying Scotsman visiting the U.S., we need here to come back over to America and to a special Charter train with U.P 4014 Big Boy!
What a great sight, 2014 and 844. Both great engines and deserve there place in history of steam engines.
Absolutely thrilling just to watch it here in my living room. I can scarcely imagine a world in which iron beasts like this were ubiquitous and unrivaled for over a hundred years.
Amazing footage, talk about being at the right place at the right time! Good you didn't run into any traffic issues.
Great video of 2 old monsters. I hope they both live forever.
Thanks for sharing! I bought my house so I could watch trains all day! Love this..👏💞✌
Doesn't matter who you are, or how old you are, you see one of amazing iron beasts coming roaring down the track you have to stop and stare in awe :)
A big, beautiful hunk of American Iron... utterly amazing.
It’s just Amazing that they got this Excellent Piece Of Train History Running Again!!!🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
Majesty. Coal. Water. Wish my Dad was here to see it.
That makes me so happy. Stuff like this still makes me proud of my country! Go Big Boy ,Go!
Makes you feel like pulling one of those hollywood stunts and jumping onto the train. I read the statements you were so kind enough to post for people who had questions. Unlike some O scale trains powered by a single Can Motor driving all the wheels, these real life locos are driven by separate steam cylinders. So, slippage, as mentioned, is very possible along with temperatures and pressures being different causing the cylinders to cycle at different times and intervals. Thank You for posting your video.
What a gorgeous sight to behold. Union Pacific's Steam Locomotive UP 4014 on the move in the open air again.
This train looks UNSTOPPABLE!
Boy was he strutting his stuff!!!! Possibly the best train video I've ever seen. The amount of people that knew what a rare moment this was,was overwhelming. I think I teared up a little bit. Kudos.
What a glorious sight and sound
Geeez that engine is a BEAST!!! All muscle. It totally dwarfs the 844. One of the coolest videos I've seen!!!
Imagine how amazing it would be to be the engineer
He must feel like he's in heaven
This is 5:22 minutes of pure beauty, . . . .
Shows the power of steam. Amazing these days butback then it would have been scary amazing
Thanks. Fine job. No matter how good man's best microphone is, it can't touch God's great creation, the ear--two ears--stereo long before Amar Bose. (Similar situation with cameras and human eyes.) btw, I rode behind the 844 when it was still the 8444 back in the day. It was so revered then. The highlights of American railroad engineering are so multitudinous. I like stations, Super Dome cars, and structures like the Huey Long bridge.
The incredible engineering. Art and function at its pentacle.
4014 and 844 both chugging along. Awesome! Thanks for sharing this! I saw an awesome video of the Santa Fe 3751 and it made me wish that they would get the old Southern Pacific 794 running again. It's sitting outside of Sunset Station in San Antonio. It would take a while and a bunch of money but it would be worth it!
As imagens são apaixonantes! É impressionante ver locomotivas tão especiais restauradas e com essa performance! Parabéns a todos pela iniciativa.
Superior quality and workmanship of American STEAM
Well done! I just saw her here in KC earlier today... I was fortunate to get a video of her whistling when I was right at the very front of 4014!
If you'd like I can upload and include a link!
PS... Last month I saw its 4023 brother in Omaha a day before I got the word 4014 is coming through KC. Pristine timing!
Awesome shot! Good to see someone got a pacing shot without holding up traffic! My friend and I got stuck in the freeway traffic because two idiots were blocking both lanes while they paced the train.
American workmanship is something to be proud of.
I know its about maintenance cost and fuel efficiency but how can any moving mechanical device be cooler than a steam locomotive? Good to see the old gal back on the rails. Thank you for posting this awesome video.
FANTASTIC! WE HAVE A RUNNING BIG BOY!
Fantastic video. Congratulations! Praise also to the car driver to keep with it all the way and allow the different angled shots. I was at Ogden for the Fest! Great fun. Greetings from Germany.
wow, what an awesome video. Friends and I were on the highway running along the tracks heading toward Morgan Utah when she was coming to Ogden, and just by chance we happened to catch the engines. Paced them for 15 minutes or so but not nearly as close as this. But some good shots of the smoke plumes from both engines trailing along behind the length of the train.
FANTASTIC OLD TRAIN.
Just beautiful !!!
Outstanding video! Thanks for posting.
Aye no problem!
It draws a crowd everywhere it goes.
That is soooooo beautiful it takes my breath away!
A living thing. It's interesting how they have the sets of drivers 180-degrees out of phase with one another to smooth-out the power sine curve.
John Chambers THERE IS NO CONNECTIONS OF THIS SORT
HOWEVER THEY WILL CHANGE THEMSELVES RELATIVE TO WHEELSLIPS AND DRIVER DIAMETER DIFERENCES!
@@rossbryan6102 Thanks for the info Ross.
Lovely to see her up and running.
You mad lad, you kept up with the king of locomotives!
Gold Prime well.. its the king of American Railways.. not be judgey, but 60103 Flying Scotsman is the king as she’s the first to go 100MPH, she’s done London - Edinburgh non stop (world record at the time), she’s visited 2 countries, she’s almost 100 AND she’s the most famous steam locomotive in the world!
@@terrier_productions YES! I can't believe I forgot the flying Scotsman. Such a beautiful and fast piece of machinery
Gold Prime HOW COULD YOU FORGET ABOUT SCOTTY??
@@terrier_productions because....she's too fast to remember.
*The joke is that that train is crazy fast...unlike the internet service people get nowadays*
Gold Prime yes.. ok she IS the *fastest unstreamlined* locomotive in the world.. but what is crazy fast for a steam locomotive is 4464 Mallard’s record of 126MPH (on the 3/7/1938)
I love this video is amazing the way that train sounds, i love to watch train's eventhough am terrified of some of them but i watch from a distance.
In one word. Fantastic. I am sorry that in Portugal with so many steam locomotives and that they are no longer used especially with tourists and children so that they could see what it was like in the old days.
Big Boy is awesome. Cheers!
they don't call it"THE MIGHTY UNION PACIFIC" for nothing👍 old girl had her dancing shoes on strutting her stuff, I love To see the drivers work flawless, just flawless
Great video and I love the fact you got such clean sounds of the train and engine think about looping the sound track of the video for white noise to play when trying to sleep or study
Super, super video.
You can even see the whites of their eyes!
😃
Wow, that is one big locomotive!
The "Big Boy" IS a thing of beauty!
Oh my god I’ve been waiting to see this thing running since I was 9
Fun fact, they dump sand in the firebox periodically to blast soot out of the boiler tubes. That's why you get a blast of black "smoke" sometimes.