Focal Alpha 80 vs Yamaha HS8 || Sound & Frequency Response Comparison
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-Sound recorded using Zoom H6 recorder
-Frequency measurements done in semi treated room using UMIK-1 microphone
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How did you measure? The deep cut at around 80-90 Hz could be a result of the measuring room, since booth speakers show it nearly identical. And a cut of almost 10db is quite a lot for a monitor speaker.
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Well you have to say that youtube compromisses the quality and if you do not listen to the video with some monitors it's also tricky.
I have the focal alpha 80s and have tested the Yamaha HS8 and would like to give some help for the people trying to decide. The HS8s are really great in the mid and high range but in my opinion lack in low end/Bass. not to say that they don't have bass but just don't have the boom. they do great clear sound and are great monitors.
the focal alpha 80 are great as well! they don't have quite as crisp highs but they still have great clarity in the midst and highs. but the low end in these monitors is spectacular. with the front facing bass ports the background doesn't affect the bass as much with muddiness. in my opinion the alphas are probably some of the best monitors in the price range. I would personally choose the alphas. the bass in the alphas is just supreme. hope this helps!
Thanks, but you are just focused on pop or rock music. In the classical and acoustic only department it may be different. And this point is the weak point of this comparison.
to sum it up since i have both before, yamaha to mix and focal for listening pleasure, can not mix with the focal they make everything sound too good
Spot on
Ayudame entre los hs8 y focal alpha 50 evo, que me sugieres?
Which bass? These are near field monitors. You have to use it for a scene and levels. For bass you might need big boxes far away from a table
I have to say that these are some of the best comparison videos I've seen yet! One small request would be to play the original mix a bit longer before showing how the speakers sound. Just so that you have time to listen to details in the song (transients, mid range, details). Keep up the good work!
And to play the same part of the songs on loop with both speakers for an ultimate fair comparison
I had the HS8s and I loved everything about them but they were slightly harsh when mixing for long hours. now I own Alpha 80s and ADAM Audio(as my main monitors), Alphas are definitely not harsh and more balanced but as a hip hop producer I miss the low end and punch I was getting from HS8s to be honest(every time). If you own HS8s then don't buy anything else unless you itching yourself with extra cash, just take more breaks for the ears thou. Peace!
Hi... I had the HS%s for about 10 years, mostly guitar based music and the mixes were fine... now I got into making hip hop beats etc with huge low end.. i just got some adam T5Vs and there is decent bottom end. The HS5s had no bass at all and now its nice to hear it.. just wondering if you know if the T5Vs are colored in any way as I havent mixed on them yet...
@@steve5662 hs5s i mean
Which Adam did you get?
I'd try toeing them out 10 degrees or so. Should knock down some of the treble gain a bit. Alternately, use DSP correction to bring down any peaks in the treble that you find particularly fatiguing. The HS8 are quite neutral and linear and rely a lot on room gain to have particularly powerful bass impact, but they're also nowhere near perfect, so DSP correction can make a significant improvement.
@@steve5662 Most of the speakers from Adam have a bit of added bass gain, sometimes at the cost of midrange detail retrieval. The HS5 don't have much bottom end because Yamaha refuses to compromise their midrange performance to eke out more bass extension. Once their driver reaches its natural bass extension they just let it roll off and instead expect you to buy a subwoofer to compensate. It gets expensive or DIY if you want a studio monitor with neutral tuning that can play down to 20Hz without needing a subwoofer. The HS8 doesn't even dig that low with its 8" woofer.
Can you make a video with focal alpha 65? Can`t find its frequency respsonse nowhere. Also great video, as always!)
They are much better than the 80s. We have two German online Magazines who tested them. Amazona.de and bonedo.de. The 65 are more linear than the 80s so for production they are on another level
@@silklion7375 thank you, i needed to hear this
@@silklion7375 Yep that’s true, the Alpha 65 is definetly more Neutral. The problem i encountered when i had the Alpha 80 at my home for Demo was the high mids that were not present enough and i found the Treble slightly annoying to my ears, some instruments like Piano had a distorted sound to it through the Alpha 80 speakers like there was a weird resonance, even in the untreated room i noticed that something was off with the sound.
yamaha for vocals, focal for smooth overall sound and solid bass
To my ears (and I'm listening this on Grado Sr325e headphones) Focal has a sound that is closer to the original file, but Yamaha has a more articulate and in-your-face sound. I think there's a risk that your mixes can sound quite dull on other sound systems, if you rely entirely on the Yamaha sound. 🤔
exactly what I was going to say, The HS8 sound a bit colored
posiadm yamaha hs 5 juz 12 lat i przez tyle czsu jak na nich pracuje na innym sprzecie jest przekłamanie w miksie
I had the HS7 and then switched to the alpha 50. Wow, the Yamaha got crushed in almost everything except raw power, which I don't care about because I have a small sudio/office room. The Alpha 50's have better clarity, 3D depth and spacial awareness of the location of each sound. And the smoothness. Wow. I will never buy Yamaha again and have become a total Focal fanboy.
Did you notice a big difference in the low end between the HS7 and 50s? I have Rokit 6s and I’m thinking either the Adam T7V or Alpha 50s or 65s still want to hear the bass though.
@@ImOzify I had the Rokit before for about 4 years and thought they were good until I had the Yamaha's. But the Focal is on a whole other level. Yes, the bass is better on the Focal. Cleaner. The only thing the Yamaha has is loudness. But no clarity compared to the Focal.
Hi, I bought some KRK RP7 and the hiss is super annoying since I sit close to them. I think i will go for the Alpha 50's which apparently dont make much noise?
@@VADBV Alpha series makes very little noise. I can't hear the hiss from the tweeters on my Alpa 80s at any distance over one foot away.
I once read a review stating that the Focal Alpha 80 is coloured sounding, in the video i can hear the mids and especially the high mids being a bit muffled while the Yamaha HS8 sounds more clean. I’ve had the chance of trying the Alpha 80 monitors out and from my experience i’m not that impressed i think the upper register is not present and clean enough, when i play piano for example it doesn’t sound clear like there is a blanket in front of the Speakers. Yes they are easy on the ears which is nice in a way but bright sounding instruments like Flutes lack presence which means that the high mids are a bit recessed . The Yamaha HS8 seems better overall but the treble is a little too energetic from what i can hear
Very strange!!!
I heard the comparisons on here and thought the Yamaha's sounded better.
But then I got to hear them in DV247.
The Focal Alphas had a more flat frequency response, better bass extension and a kicking stereo image.
The Yamaha's were more mono and pushed the mid frequencies a bit.
not strange at all, the HS8 here sounds brighter compared to source track. I’m listening to this from my phone right now.
HS8 sounds here a bit like Mackie monitors have sounded before on this channel compared to other monitors, a bit forwardy. And what I've read about Mackie's is that they are good to mix on low volume. Also, correct me if im wrong, but i think this quality makes them easier to work in an untreated room. I also think that HS8 might be nicer to listen to casually, even though many have said it could be more fatiguing. Edit: this "forwardy" sound actually makes them sound more closer to the original tracks than focal.
Mackie's generally have this charisma.... to have a perfect view of your mixing in low volumes....
But generally they are under-estimated in these days.....
A budget 8-inch solution are the MR824 ones (400 euros per pair) might be an excellent choice.... But unfortunately no one has reviewed them seriously... I would like to hear them before bying my studio monitors for home-studio purposes....
At my pro-studio I have the HR824 ones for 15 years now..... which are much better than HR824 MarkII newer model.....
Sadly, for covid issues, I can't hear the monitors live to have the proper answer and choice..... :-(
Can't decide between those speakers, i need to hear them in person to get a decision. I like the deep bass on the focals
Its illnes of all frontinvertors monitor, its not true bass, just easey way to make a bass in the cheap monitors. Take more informations about invertors .
This is how to compare audio things. No talk needed. Good job
Don’t forget that the Focal is front-ported, so with this technique of capturing, it’s pretty biased. I’ve used the Alpha 50 before and sold it to get the HS8 because of the hype of it being “flat”. But the HS8 sounds distorted on high levels which can be really annoying. While the Alpha 50 is actually a higher quality monitor, it was crazy how detailed and natural it was. Needless to say, I completely regret my desicion. The Alpha 80 is next on my list :)
You should buy the alpha 65 instead. Everybody has been saying it on the comments
Estoy en la decision si compro unos hs8 o focal alpha 50 evo, que me recomendarias bro?
Clarity in the Yamahas is superb!
I agree
Thank you very much! The best useful channel!
This was a great comparison!! I own the hs80’s and they are very mid range high range heavy! The focals sound so flat compared to them!
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I agree with what somebody mentioned. It would be easier on the ear hearing the alphas for a longer period of time. Because it does soften the mids and highs more. More clarity not as potent/rich on those frequencies.
This comparison makes an easy decision on what to purchase depending on the user.
Focal Alpha 80 = flat response which is perfect for sound engineers to mix.
Yamaha HS8 = strong mid and high frequency which tends more towards listeners cause they'll focus on the brightness.
I disagree. Mixing will be more suitable with Yamaha. Focal sounds like BX8. Dull in mid. I can’t hear what’s happening in those region in focal.
Seems like Focal has veiled mids. But I have old ears (good up to 15k)...
It does for sure, I have a pair and will prob sell them for yamahas now. I also have kh120 and they have better transient and mid as well.
REMARKABLE Sample sharing!!!
Thank you
I really surprised. Yamaha HS8 are more monitors than Focal 80... O_o. Thanks for your tests, dude.
Thank you DS!!
Yamaha HS8 - 9 Focal Alpha 80 - 8
I fully expected the focals to blow the Yamahas away, they did not. they for sure sound different, not better, just different. Even if they sound better, it's for sure is not $500.00 better.
They're almost the same price, the HS8 are €500 and the Focal €680 currently on Amazon, definitely worth the price difference just for shear amp quality, construction and bass response.
Love the sound stage of the Yamaha HS8
Thank you for this vid!
Focal Alpha 65 & Hs8 please!
There is a richness in the Yamaha focused on highs and mids but Focal has an Edge on differentials between High's mids lows
I have HS8’s and alpha 50’s. Gotta love HS8’s for all around monitors but the alphas are so natural, flat and not harsh for upper mids and highs. I know I only have the 50’s but the alpha line has a similar sound character between them from what I’ve heard
Estoy en la decisión si adquiero hs8 o alpha 50 evo, tu eres el indicado ya que tienes los dos, ¿que opinión o sugerencia me das?, deseo usarlos para mezcla y masterizacion, tengo una home estudio acondicionado en un 85%
@@Multi19961996 que altavoces te has comprado al final?
so which is better for electric guitar practising? I have a pair of alpha 50 evos and find them not so revealing of guitar plugins and they definately dont sound the same as PA Flat FRFR monitors on stages..
@@litianhuang5559 electric guitars shine in mid range so I’d actually go like hs5 unless you have a large treated room!
Very good job testing these monitors. Listening with Sony MDR-7506 Headphones, I am leaning towards the HS8 Yams. Very clear with good bass response. Sounds great. I am going to add a set of these to my studio for reference.
As the owner of the Focal Alpha 80, it is important to mention that you should place it on a stand (not the desk) as far away from you as possible. Only from a listening distance of 1.5 to 2 meters are the low frequencies actually as they should be. Amazingly, they are really not susceptible to badly treated rooms.
my 65s shake all kinds of bass frequencies... the 50s are better in my room... im just worried about annoying the neighbours with sub frequencies which stresses me out a bit.. but I want to hear the final bass extension before I upload a track to beatstars... the 50s sound amazing and you can hear somewhat the subs... I hate all this figuring things out,... I neurotic about it.... just want to hear how the whole mix sounds but can mix on the smaller ones first...
Bass is generally speaking more room dependent. Also room treatment changes a lot, so its very hard to compare the bass loudness or kick to other people with other rooms
I agree. The Focal are actually midfield monitors. You can actually hear even through the microphone how bigger the soundstage is.
Yeah they are (very) good. But dont expecr nearfield imaging.
Focal shape are way better at that but it's way more expensive.... Bass wise the focal will pretty much take anything with a the right power
It's a bit of a hybride between high end party and monitors. Just be aware dont desk them they can fill a room... At the right volume (LOUD)
So it's a good deal often because of their schizophrenia
i have the focal alpha 80, and i will hear music on it till i die. Perfect Studio Speakers, even my Adam´s cant do this precision.
May I ask, what Adam do you have to compare it with? How does it compare to the A7X for example?
I'm looking at getting the focal 80's myself after having hs7's, I want front ports in a bigger size to go alongside my 5 inch. I just can't decide between a few like the presonus 8 xt, fluids and Adams.
@@odnoy Thanks Benji.
what did you end up with if i may ask @@Astro-X-Ent
The Yamahas sound tinny and boxy, they sound like low quality knock-offs.
Mam nadzieję, że kiedyś pojawią się porównania z Focal Alpha 65
Yams, great comparison. Thank you DS.
I heard very little difference on my Bose headphones, except the first piece Metal Head where there was a very pronounced difference in how the guitars sound. If I were to make one comment the Yamahas sounded more open in the high end. I’m about to get a pair of Alpha 65s which one comment said sound better than the 80s.
Good choice, i got the 80's and depending on without a good room treatment or a big room the bass will be overpowering.
What do you think of them so far?
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A budget 8-inch solution are the MR824 ones (400 euros per pair) might be an excellent choice.... But unfortunately no one has reviewed them seriously... I would like to hear them before bying my studio monitors for home-studio purposes....
At my pro-studio I have the HR824 ones for 15 years now..... which are much better than HR824 MarkII newer model.....
Sadly, for covid issues, I can't hear the monitors live to have the proper answer and choice..... :-(
As for the present review, Focals are more "balanced", although the Yamahas have the "traditional"midrange "presence" from the NS10 legend.....
But if you work for many hours with Yamahas, maybe the ear-fatique effect will be a permanent problem (from my experience with NS10s :-) )
... although HS8s are not TO MUCH mid-ish.... there are certainly most "balanced " than the NS10 ones.
Humble opinion :)
I hear it on my M Audio BX8 and i like the Yamaha more. BUT. This always depends on youre own system! My m audio are already bass heavy and a bit flat, thats why i like the open sound of the Yamaha more because the Vocals add to much bass and flatness on my speakers! In reality the yamaha are maybe to harsh and airy with to less bass!! Always test them in real life!!
HS8 sounds closely to the source
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Oh 3:15 the girl....much sweeter on Yammy's . surprised
HELLO if possible, I think it would be good, a comparison of the YAMAHA HS 8 with the MACKIE MR 824 thanks
Alpha seems to lack some clarity in transients. Hope you can get your hand on Focal Shape & Solo.
For raw industrial techno focal kill yamaha in every possible way
yamaha is more present and Focal is somehow laid back.
Would prefer to mix on HS8 and I think the Focal Alpha 65 is the best alternative from that line rather than the 80.
Usually manufacturers design larger monitors to be listened farther away. Yeah i heard some people online with every brand talk about how the 5 and 6 inch monitors have "better" mid range. Its only better if the listener is too close to 8 inch monitors which would cause the time alignment between drivers to be off.
Sergey Melnik this, and a room that isn’t treated to handle the extended low end response from 8in monitors.
So if you could pick between the alpha 65 and the hs8 which ones would you choose?
I owned both these monitors for years and used both extensively. For actual serious mixing, the Yamahas do not compare to the Alphas, especially after adding room correction.
So which one is better for mixing and perhaps a bit of mastering?
@@bigsean6045 Focals without a doubt.
So you enjoy coloration? Focal is full coloration. Nothing like the original source.
@@michaelstrode8924 Sure pal!
Listening on monitors. My impressions:
Focal 80 - Better spatial placement of instruments, deeper 3d soundstage, more engaging mids, darker highs, more prominent in lows, somewhat loose/flabby/tubby bass and low mids.
Yamaha HS8 - Poor flat soundstage, Everything upfront, reverb tail is more in your face apparent, more present highs, tighter bass, more neutral sound overall.
Overall I think I will prefer the HS8 in this case as a studio monitor(but I would stay away from both tbh :D)
You will hear more separation with headphones on.
Dark Suns this video does the Focals no justice. They are incredibly tight and very detailed, blowing away most other reference monitors at the $1k a pair price point. They also have a very bright high end, which is why this video really doesn’t show how they really are. I own a pair, used to mix with them, and they are at times too bright. Due to the custom Focal beryllium tweeter.
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@@erinmelnik6609 Adamantium
What would you buy instead then?
Guys...Compare sound to source track.Not HS8 to Alpha 80.
Listen to mids...Alpha has neutral sound.Higher mids and highs are coloured on HS8 even on ZoomH6 recording.Stage seems to be on plus to Alpha.
Wwe can drag one of this chord progressions in
Focal Alpha 80’s sounds muffled and muddy, but the Yamaha HS8’s sound crystal clear and perfect!
Focal is full coloration. Yamaha is neutral. Depends what you like. Neither are doing good at producing the source though...
Listening to this on Focal Alpha 80s!
me too
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Yamaha is tight in the high end, maybe better for technical mixdown, but Alpha 80s all the way for soundstage and balance. Been listening to a lot of tests, for me it's coming down to Alpha 80 vs Tannoy Gold 8. Probably going to go with the Alphas.
I own Yamaha HS50 and Focal Shape50 the expensive brothers of the Focal Alpha. The Yamaha sound its quite mid frequency pronounced. The impression when you listen both side by side is that Yamaha have more clarity and Focal sound more natural and slightly pronounced in the mid bass frequencies.
But that's only the listening experience when you compare them. The thing changes when you start to working with them. In my case mostly production and mixing. When I am mixing with HS50 I'm always coming to the point where I just start guessing what happening in the sound because not enough separation, transparency and articulation in the sound. Whit the Shape50 no guessing anymore. The speakers are very fast which contributes very nice articulation of the sound even in the lower frequency. They have very nice stereo separation. The tonal balance is really nice even in my small room with no treatment(i made measurements). When I bought the Focal Shape 50 I spend three days to listening them. The fourth day I switched back to the HS 50. Oh boy, that was like listening music thru smartphones 😂 I still love my HS50, I had them more than ten years, but after Shape 50 I can't imagine myself going back to the Yamahas
+1 i had the hs50 for about 4 years. I think the sound is quite intriguing, you think the voices sound great because the mids are way too overpowered. It sounds great for a few minutes but your ears get fatigued way too fast, the Yamahas don't have a neutral sound at all. I got the Mackie mr524 on Friday, this is the best 5 inch studio monitor that i heard in the last years, such a great sound.
I own hs8 and i use them only as reference i mix on headphones , i like them but they very harsh and stiff sounding
I was looking into these, the Alpha already cost close to 2x of HS. I didn't look into 5s but Shape 65 cost more than 3x the price of HS7. If you are comparing shape50, compare them to something like KH120A, which is still 100-200 cheaper per pair and are better speakers.
If you are in EU you may consider focal, but if you are in NA, don't. They charge a huge premium to NA customers. For example after currency conversion, KH120A cost about the same in US and UK, for Focal, shape 50 cost less than 500 USD before VAT in UK. Yes, if you live in US, you are paying shape money for Alpha.
@@wsnx_ have you ever heard the mackies Mr624 or Mr824? An 5 inch woofer is not enough for me, so, I needed an 6 or 8 inch one.
@@HyperOpticalSaint here I can buy an focal alpha 65 for the price of the hs8. Which one do you think I should buy?
yamaha win !
Great comparison, would it be possible to do Focal Alpha 50 vs Genelec 8020D?
Yamaha == monitor sound. For years. I love mine, and prefer these to Focal
HS8 - cheap and nice sound
Could you do a test with the Wavemaster CUBE NEO vs Wavemaster Two NEO? or/with Wavemaster Two PRO?
Please compare the PSI A17M and Kali audio IN8!!
Yamahas are like hifi.... focals rules
Focal 80 much closer to original sound track than Yamaha Hs8. Yamaha sounds treated in the high end. I'll go with Focal.
Sorry, there are way to many electronic instruments and productions. But it´s in their nature to produce a sound in the way the producer or musician wants it to be. Look at the use of compressors for example. If you want to demontrate the nature of a monitor speaker then give him some acoustic instruments, for example grand piano or a solo viola etc. But with this audiofiles it´s nearly impossible to get an impression of how neutral these speakers are.
Yamaha is the winner
I've got the HS8's and their clarity is fantastic you can tell they're proper studio monitors they're well balanced throughout the ranges you get the feeling what you put in you get out no colouring, the only "issue" (it's not really an issue I'm just highlighting it) is if you want that deep coloured low end bass you get with Techno etc they lack a bit of that but you would get that from a coloured system anyway these are meant to be precise and they do exactly that I doubt anyone would be disappointed if they bought them and they're far clearer than any KRK's I've heard they sound muddy in comparison to the HS8's, if you really craved that coloured bass you could buy the sub for them and I'm talking in a relaxing and listening to music sense they're fantastic when mixing
Also I actually think they might be too powerful for the room I have them in, if I remember rightly I barely have mine turned up to a quarter on the rear dials and they're very loud, like really really loud and that's with all my levels on my Kontrol S8 barely getting past the second square and the gains at about 10 o'clock
Honestly though the point I highlighted is really a non issue these are superb speakers
Thanks, mate, you do really great content :)
I miss the low mid focus in Alphas, seems bit too much, while HS 8 seems well balanced and tight across this part of spectrum. Also HS 8 provide at least here slightly better spatial reference. They also seem to sound more upfront in the mids, while retain the clear open highs in the end, where as Aphas seem bit laid back across the hi-mids, but that could be caused by bit pushed and muddy lower mid end, but at the very low end Alpha's seem to perform really great. Its funny that over the less busy tracks with live instruments I would choose Alphas, where within electronica I prefer Yammies - unlike a friend sitting next to me, having wildly different preferences.
I will like to give you 100/100.... your review is the best ever🙌
Ok those comparisons, will give you no real way to know what you will hear in your room with those speakers. The room it is recorded in is far far from perfect, I have the Yamaha and they sound so much better when you have them in the room , I haven’t heard the Focal but I am sure they are great as well, you shouldn’t make any conclusions from those videos!!! , still they give you a starting point for your search .
What about the A7X?
I strongly suggest a looped track being repeated for accuracy of reproduction... instead of linearly going through different phrases and dynamics. Of course that loop must be of wide range of tones, musicality, dynamics, textures, instruments ....
exactly what I thought, for it to be a fair test of course.
Focal alpha 80 wins. Deep bass rich full sound, beautiful stereo image. Yamaha is nice, however that high end they have comes with a tin boxy sound which I don't like.
I heard all the hs series so many times and I still cant get into them. The tweeter never sounds like it blends well with the mid and theres a boost in the upper mid range possibly at the crossover frequency. They all sound like theyre just missing that lower midrange that would give the sound a bit of warmth. For a speaker with an aluminum tweeter I prefer the sound of the mackie XR.
They're not meant to sound warm, if they do then you won't get to hear all the sounds clearly
I think it's a little unbalanced, cuz of bassreflektionhole, if Yamaha would be placed near to a wall or even a corner, as they Should be with the Bassreflektionhole in the back, they woudnlt sound that gross.
Listen on my Handy lel.. Still can tell
focal alpha sounds muddy and boring
Yamaha IS better than focal but Focal IS very 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Please make videos on Yamaha Hs series vs Msp series
Focal 100% 💞 more realistic
I disagree. The metal guitars at the beginning of the test do sound phase-y.
I have just ordered pair of Focal alpha 80 and definitely will share my observations.
thank you for sharing!
They both do the thing that I really appreciate in a good 2-way speaker design: they don't try to squeeze more bass extension out of their drivers at the cost of midrange detail retrieval. They just used a bigger woofer with enough agility and a high enough breakup point and just relied on sheer surface area to produce bass, then they tuned out the gain in the mids so everything is balanced. It's the same approach that Bose takes, but done using actually good drivers so you don't end up with flabby bass and weird treble.
Eargasm with the HS8!!!
yuck
Do you think you will able to redo the test with the Focal Alpha 80 Evo? :)
HS8 is brighter more forward, Alpha 80 has a bit of veiled sound. Funny thing, I was considering both, but couldn't tell much of difference with my old speaker, now I can... after went way over budget... Edit: I should say I can tell there is a difference but not nearly as clear as now on what's the difference.
When you want not to loud to hear, hs8 is better , because lighter then focal.
both ALTER the original source material way too much. Both unnatural.
please do you have a test of focal ALPHA 65
thank you
yamahas are much more articulate and open sounding. not more pleasing but more "looking inside the mix"
Yamaha Natural sound
I'd say for enjoying casual music the Focal are better, but if you want flat nutral sound for mixing and monitoring..the Yamahas are better, as its obvious that they are made just for that.
Also i dont think the Focals are worth the price they ask for it...as they are even more expensive as the Yamahas and when i take a look at the Presonus Eris E8 XT and compare them to those 2...they beat the Focal and Yamaha Sound and Pricewise i'd say as you can get them for about 500bucks a pair.
Do you have HS8 vs HS7??
I like HS8 more.
I dont like to listen to specs ..........the sound does the talking everyone!!
wow.. yamaha win
Right Focal is a bit louder and the center is slipped a bit