I live in Utah, and back when I was younger I used to ramble all around the central and southern desert portions of the state, particularly in the springtime when the weather up north was still cold, but had turned balmy farther south. Well...usually it was balmy: the downside of springtime in the high desert is that it can go from 80° F and sunny in the morning to 20° and dropping foot of snow by the afternoon. That sort of weather will make camping a lot less fun, and just such a situation occurred one day when my friend and I were out somewhere between Panguitch and Boulder, in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. We're no kommandos, and when the weather had turned on us in the past we'd just found a motel for the night, but were out and about during an early spring break that year, meaning some of the seasonal motels weren't yet open, and the ones that were were had no vacancies. There aren't many places to stay around there anyway. We were just about to give up and resign ourselves to an uncomfortable night in the jeep when we spotted what looked like a little rock overhang down a well-growned dirt trail off the main road. Closer inspection showed there was actually a proper little cave within the rock formation, and we figured we could light a fire at the entrance, be out out of the wind and snow, and stay sufficiently warm for the night. To cut to the chase: inside the cave we found hundreds, maybe even thousands of pottery fragments, which we guessed correctly were Freemont culture artifacts. Given the proximity of the site to the road, I have to think we weren't the first modern people to find those pottery shards, but the small pieces weren't of any monetary value (looting of archeological sites for sale on the black marekt is big business around that area, unfortunately), so no one had bothered to steal them. In fact, the cave might very well have at one time contained intact pottery or other artifacts, and we just found what the looters had left behind. In any case, we noted our location on the map, and when we got home, reported what we'd found to the BLM. What became of it I don't know, but the BLM lady to whom we spoke seemed very interested in getting the details of the location correct, so I imagine the sent someone to at least take a look. Kind of a cool experience sleeping in that cave, knowing that thousands of years before people had probably used the spot to do more or less the same thing we had done to shelter from the elements.
It is sad, the pottery was destroyed. Such an art form is priceless in my eyes. And today would be worth more than what they probably got out of the pottery. More like vandalism really.
A few of the closing pictures look very familiar. There are still many sites that remain undiscovered in canyon country North and South of the Arizona/Utah line, and East to Four Corners; some of which I have seen; most of which is accessible by horseback only... unless one has a helicopter available. Perhaps these sites will (and maybe SHOULD) remain undiscovered and retain their Sacred-ness. Very easy place to "get lost" in. Off the point, and 1400 miles East (but maybe closer to the point), was another site buried in the Adirondacks of Northern New York State, a "bit" ( maybe two bits) South of the St. Lawrence River. My father took me there when I was ten years old: a nasty up-down-up-down, mosquito infested 5-hour hike-in. My father discovered it when he was nine years old. He was hunting white-tail deer at the time and got hit with an early Fall blizzard--a nefarious Canadian Freight Train--that dropped down from James Bay, carrying the still air temp into the single digits. He needed to find shelter FAST. He found it in a cave beneath a nameless ridge, just when the weather turned REALLY bad. He wasn't the first person to shelter there: Evidence in the form of a fire pit, an in-floor mortar/and stone pestle, animal bones (ungulate) probably Wapiti/Elk, a stone knife and flaking stone... among other artifacts was present. He escaped the cave two-days later, leaving everything right where he found it. Everything was still right where he left it when he took me there thirty-years later and, hopefully still remains UNTOUCHED. Selfish of me? IDK. My father's (and therefore mine as well) Algonquin/Mohawk heritage dictated that the site remain "unmolested" as a sign of respect for those who had either fled their home, or perished, leaving their belongings behind. The way my father saw it, and the way I came to understand "it": these "things" still belonged to them, and it would only be a matter of TIME before they returned to claim their belongings. Happy Hunting 🌎
I took a bus from CT to Green river, UT and started walking north along the green river. I walked the twelve miles to "The Beach" which is used for rafting tours exiting the canyon. Next day made the 25 mile hike to Nefertiti rock. Camped. next day 5 miles to Rattlesnake canyon and the pyramid. After two days camping went into the canyon. The experience was unlike anything id ever imagined and what I saw was life changing. I spent 6 weeks in the canyon, there was so much to see. I felt tiny.
R N it makes a difference to your psyche to know that you are able to get along in nature's environment for a season. Teach the young ones you know who are willing to learn.
I live in Moab, Utah. If you ever want to come out and tour some of the petroglyph/pictographs, I'll take you to some unique panels. We can also tee it up. Semper Fidelis.
@@markmcarthy596 my oldest sister was born in LaSalle-Peru, work out of Naperville , by route 88 & Naperville Road, my other two sisters went & graduated from University of Illinois, YES, GO ILLINI!!!
It looked like the walls of the structure had everything to do with a survival function. I didn't see much of an artistic impression in the architecture is what I'm getting at. Thank you for this presentation.
My thoughts too Keny. It looks like the remains of peepers from another advanced civilisation before they gave up trying to build and make stuff. At that point they started living off the land proper. Also I think the structures with exits in the roof no dofors or windows and the moccasins show a cold climate people, who from my research were far from hygenic, As the snow and ice retreated they would have sucumb to diseases, whilst the Door window sandal wearer's would have had the advantage, Food poisoning in the warmer climate would have also been a problem.
@@ETALAL the digs they uncovered appear to be laid out facing the winter solstice. My place is laid out with the eastern wall facing the winter solstice and it warms up nicely in the winter if there is any sunshine and the wind is not blowing too hard. The north wall is less subject to mold because it is exposed to the sunshine during the rest of the year. At my latitude the north wall of structures will mold if you house is squared up with polar north.
@@cfapps7865 atlatl rock petroglyph panel and across the road from the canyon that leads to mouses tank are some of my favorite places to explore, thanks for the reply.
All of this blows my mind.. and how little we are taught or know about our own history... next summer I plan on packing up and going to see a lot of this. You should make a travel doc for people as a site seeing road trip to take around US
Didn't see a skull and a lot of the thoracic bones on the sketch. Could this have been an exhumation with certain bones taken, and a 'sacrifice' of maze made in exchange? That could explain the difference in the carbon dating.
Hay look up kamiah Idaho is the native American Nez-peirc tribe have a mound there called the hart of the monster its never been distributed in my opinion it could be a giant in it but who knows its interesting none the less just thought i would share that with you so you could take a look and who knows might be a video idea for you have a great day love your videos
I’m late to the show but this is an amazing culture. Escapees from Chacoan over bearing rule? Sounds right to me. Were they precursors to Mimbres? Did they ceremonially “kill” the bowls, if buried with someone? Damn, I wish I wasn’t stuck in a wheelchair! I could definitely get off on working and analyzing a dig of this culture!
While visiting a dig site at Corn Creek in Southern Nevada just north of Las Vegas, I saw pounding holes for Mesquite seed and the maize also found there was around 5,000 years old. There are some much earlier mammoth hunting sites near there also. I would really like to know about both these people and how they related to the Fremont people and the rest of the "lower" South West. The Heart Break Hotel site does look just like that kind of motel.
Those photographs are not Fremont. They are 8,000 to 4,000 years old and belong to an even more ancient culture. The Fremont did petroglyphs with triangle figures with horns.
@@juliahart8593 We will probably never know. They were nomadic and did not leave much of a foot print. The first Freemont signs appear around 1,400 hundred years ago in the Uintah Basin then spread out through the rest of Utah in the following 200 years. If you are wondering what happened to the Fremont, They were wiped out by the Utes. The Shoshone arrived in Las Vegas area around 1,000 years ago kicked out some violent members who became the Utes. The Utes followed the Colorado river and every native tribe was killed. The Uintah Basin Freemont were the last Fremont and they disappeared around 1,700 A.D. Archeology does not like talking about this because it does not fit the narrative.
@@muttlyone2964I am inclined to believe you. Especially since Utah lake by the time of European contact was somewhat of a "no man's land" between the Shoshone and the Ute, often changing hands.
Go to Irish Canyon southern Wyoming and norther Colorado btween Rock Springs Wyoming and somewhere Colorado. Right on the border, little dirt road, same petrogliffs< round grain silos, other artifacts.
Noting the Spinning Cross motif, also the Horned helmet, which indicates communicated influences of an agricultural priest class, expressing the annual seasons by an Elk level of educated priest or teacher. This Zhretsi type of field development traces consistently through to at least 5500 BC, Bulgaria, who also imparted textile design traces to a large ratio of indigenous North American populations. These references are imparted in the Spiro Mound of Oklahoma as well.
Honoring ancestors was/is big for First Nations people. It is know that the Aztecs, who later became the Mexica, carried ancestors with them on their migration towards southern Mexico. And their migration lasted years. The more ancient petroglyphs I would say are depicting ancestors because the way they/we stay alive is by being remembered. Thanks for remembering them, they remain alive.
As I'm looking at the wall with all the hand prints, I have to wonder.. was that an Oath taken by a group of individuals towards a common purpose? It 'feels' like a Declaration of some sort.
theory I had never thought of before, nor heard of before. Thinking outside the box is what I try to do,, proving the theory is a whole other challenge.
paul Just an impression. No way to prove it, but I do wonder if it was a pledge of some sort.. like a handprint Signature for a tribe or quest or something.. idk.
Hand art basically meant "I'm here", it was a means of affirming your humanness. The names ancient tribes called themselves was a variation of "The Prople", they often saw other tribes as enemies and subhuman.
That's still a maybe! Flooding and a quick freeze from volcanoes are still on the frequency bonding Earth, for me. But, could be. John Keely Or Tesla, can't remember which right now) published pics of Mars, and claimed it was nuked. NOT scarred. Atomic suicide~ great book!!
Lave forming rocks ( Iceland right now) and "Dead" rocks are draining Water! Alchemy of Mother Earth and conditions quick fossilization, considering. ( I do like the spider woman as the magnetosphere, its a maybe. )
Hi mate I'm from New Zealand and we had a big earthquake few weeks ago and still feel after shocks that seem to come regularly so I was a bit worried and just wanted to do some research and had a look on gmaps and as I followed the fault line up the east coast of nz and followed it out to sea and I notice lines running along the sea bed and was like wow they look like the lines in Peru and because I believe my polynesian ancestors had some connection with Peru I'm not saying we are from Peru but I can't accept what was taught to Maori and is strongly believe by Maori that we was lost at sea after leaving hawaiki and found new Zealand but my theory totally Contradicts what people to beleive to be the truth but if that was the case, then the concept kontiki or takitimu as we know it would have just being a theory and we would have been taught by the professional archaeologist that we was primative and drifted around the pasific.Through limit research debating and analysing I strongly believe that we was master and conquer of the pasific ocean and land warfare and sailed the world trading as we have ancient trade rights with eygpt so if we had trade as far as eygpt then we must have traded with everyone in between but no matter how much sense it makes in my head it's still near impossible to prove as our culture was being rejected thier culture by colonial influencers who taught that Maori was primative savages and forbid the use of Maori language and because we didn't have a written dialect and shared history by story's songs and carving almost lost our culture the reason why the captain and crew of the kontiki struggled to sail from Peru to pasific Islands cause they had to improvise and was not prepared for the survival experience which is why I say we master the art of sailing not just one catamaran but hundreds from around the pasific moving as an elite force along the pasific trade. The king chief and captain of the takitimu would have past down his status to his son and so forth, so with long distant trades may have taken till the next generation to get home and could be due to this and sly sabbatical methods by the royals and deplomats of England for control and power we might have lost the connection to the truth but if I'm right and this theory has some relation then I can prove we had evolve into supergene civilisations before being interrupted, so getting back to the lines I thought you know I've seen some of these lines and patterns as I was looking at them and thought what if the lines match up to the ones one the sea floor pfft that would be amazing and I would be on a great start but then I thought I'm not that amazing that's just stupid how would they make lines on the sea floor and why then it hit me a map so I looked up a diagram of nesca lines and the chart I came across had arrows pointing to the next picture and that pic pointed to another pic and when you looked at the whole thing it looked like the arrows followed a current pattern similar to pasific(still have to confirm,) and if you could harnest the wind on sea you could proberbly do it on land and it makes so much sense because before I went in the sea to kite surf I learnt how to fly the kite on land first which by the way I just throw it out there too but maori also had knowledge of aerodynamics witnessed in amazement by first contact with Maori the arrivals record sailing into the harbor and observing kids flying flax-weaved kites aye not to far fetch bet you I could get straight lines and curved lines on my kite and board idk maybe I'm in lala land and I just talked way to much but thought I would ask if you would like to look abit deeper with me or it could be just the most time wasting load of crap you may chose to ignore and I completely understand but with the archeologist being so clueless and ancient historical information being forgotten surpressed or even in burnt, I have to find out even if I'm wrong it will relieve curiosity of do I have a deep connection with my ancestors or should I go back to school till I'm at lest a propa thinker lol
Totem poles are made by first nation people , could they have a different meaning, One possibility I have thought about is Thoth calls his father THOTME, maybe its pronounced 'to - tem 'after all Thotme, is said to be "greatest among the children of light, keeper of the great temple, link between the children of light and the races of men who inhabited the ten islands. Mouthpiece, after the Three, of the Dweller of UNAL, speaking to the Kings with the voice that must be obeyed." Seems like a fine figure to worship. and a way to hand down the knowledge, Just a thought. might be a link.
The Fremonts, and their descendants, the Anasazi, were not "spiritual", in their drawings, but they were trying to be accurate, in leaving a record of what had happened to their ancestors. The Fremont People were the principal link in a chain that started on the Russian Steppes, when their ancestors started the Long Walk, that "ended" at Chaco Canyon (it didn't really end there). Fremont ancestors had tracked down the eastern foothills of the Canadian Rockies, shedding off groups that would press on easterly, where possible, but the group that became the Fremonts arrived in the central Utah highlands circa 700BC. Almost two millennia later, their descendants, the Anasazi, would walk away from everything they built, leaving a mystery behind. The Fremonts moved out onto the exposed clifftops, as water levels began to lower, then down onto the cliffsides, as they fell rapidly, at times, and finally, as Anasazi, out onto the prairies. When life-enabling water fell to more modern levels, the Colorado and San Juan Rivers, essentially, life was too hard elsewhere, and the Anasazi left, in search of greener pastures. Their descendants returned, as Navajo, Zuni, and Puebloans, several centuries later.
Why do they call "Fremont culture" when Jhon Fremont explored this areas almost 80 years after Expedition Dominguez-Escalante 1776. Tribes Tiwas, Timpanogos, Utes (yutas) among the others.
Hey man, besides lifting someone else's video and renaming it, you just show a bunch of rock art in your introduction which is not "Fremont" rock art, repeat NOT Fremont rock art... Some of it was Anasazi, some of it was Ute. The panel with the rainbow is of unknown origin. Still not Fremont. On the map you show a lot of Anasazi, Hohokam, and Mogollon ruins, not Fremont sites. So instead of adding anything of value to this lecture, instead you have added some misinformation and confusion. IRL the "Fremont" were probably ancestral Hopi.
Misattribution of Southwestern Pictographs and cultural artifacts is so common because it is popular. Once you start studying peoples and places you learn the differences and it becomes even more interesting. The casual You Tuber just watches for entertainment, they aren't scholars.
@@313barrygmailsure petroglyphs can be associated with messages and meanings, but it's not THAT far fetched to think that ANYONE couldve scratch some symbolic art on to rocks, it been done for millenia's. acedemics need to stop assuming that everything had an advanced purpose.
All archaeologists should do 2 or 3 acid trips a year in order to graduate. If they did, ancient rock markings and drawings wouldn't seem so mysterious. I notice it especially in Australian rock art.
they are actually the aztec ancestors .... the land that was stolen from the natives ... originally from southwest (aztecs) moved to Mexico - Hernan cortes came - they(Aztecs) went back to Utah
Most rock art does look the same.. If you draw a figure of a man on Rock. Then you find another drawing figure man on a rock in Australia.. Doesn't a human body have a head and two arms and two legs all around the world?
I think it's insulting to put a structure of native Americans as heartbreak hotel that is so unsensible it is interesting how American archaeologists are able to go all over the world and give so much detail about other cultures yet the culture they took over they're unable to explain things correctly and put ridiculous names on things like heartbreak hotel absolutely insulting
Psalms 75: 6....is basically saying blessings come from the North! This idea is widely spead over the earth! It is original with Yahweh. The earth is young! The original alphabet came from God! I have seen a few Indian petroglyphys that look like Paleo-Hebrew! Google, the Northern Cross, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube! Google, Hebrew Word Pictures, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube.
I live in Utah, and back when I was younger I used to ramble all around the central and southern desert portions of the state, particularly in the springtime when the weather up north was still cold, but had turned balmy farther south. Well...usually it was balmy: the downside of springtime in the high desert is that it can go from 80° F and sunny in the morning to 20° and dropping foot of snow by the afternoon. That sort of weather will make camping a lot less fun, and just such a situation occurred one day when my friend and I were out somewhere between Panguitch and Boulder, in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. We're no kommandos, and when the weather had turned on us in the past we'd just found a motel for the night, but were out and about during an early spring break that year, meaning some of the seasonal motels weren't yet open, and the ones that were were had no vacancies. There aren't many places to stay around there anyway. We were just about to give up and resign ourselves to an uncomfortable night in the jeep when we spotted what looked like a little rock overhang down a well-growned dirt trail off the main road. Closer inspection showed there was actually a proper little cave within the rock formation, and we figured we could light a fire at the entrance, be out out of the wind and snow, and stay sufficiently warm for the night.
To cut to the chase: inside the cave we found hundreds, maybe even thousands of pottery fragments, which we guessed correctly were Freemont culture artifacts. Given the proximity of the site to the road, I have to think we weren't the first modern people to find those pottery shards, but the small pieces weren't of any monetary value (looting of archeological sites for sale on the black marekt is big business around that area, unfortunately), so no one had bothered to steal them. In fact, the cave might very well have at one time contained intact pottery or other artifacts, and we just found what the looters had left behind. In any case, we noted our location on the map, and when we got home, reported what we'd found to the BLM. What became of it I don't know, but the BLM lady to whom we spoke seemed very interested in getting the details of the location correct, so I imagine the sent someone to at least take a look. Kind of a cool experience sleeping in that cave, knowing that thousands of years before people had probably used the spot to do more or less the same thing we had done to shelter from the elements.
It is sad, the pottery was destroyed. Such an art form is priceless in my eyes. And today would be worth more than what they probably got out of the pottery. More like vandalism really.
Thank you for your work!!
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A few of the closing pictures look very familiar. There are still many sites that remain undiscovered in canyon country North and South of the Arizona/Utah line, and East to Four Corners; some of which I have seen; most of which is accessible by horseback only... unless one has a helicopter available. Perhaps these sites will (and maybe SHOULD) remain undiscovered and retain their Sacred-ness. Very easy place to "get lost" in. Off the point, and 1400 miles East (but maybe closer to the point), was another site buried in the Adirondacks of Northern New York State, a "bit" ( maybe two bits) South of the St. Lawrence River. My father took me there when I was ten years old: a nasty up-down-up-down, mosquito infested 5-hour hike-in. My father discovered it when he was nine years old. He was hunting white-tail deer at the time and got hit with an early Fall blizzard--a nefarious Canadian Freight Train--that dropped down from James Bay, carrying the still air temp into the single digits. He needed to find shelter FAST. He found it in a cave beneath a nameless ridge, just when the weather turned REALLY bad. He wasn't the first person to shelter there: Evidence in the form of a fire pit, an in-floor mortar/and stone pestle, animal bones (ungulate) probably Wapiti/Elk, a stone knife and flaking stone... among other artifacts was present. He escaped the cave two-days later, leaving everything right where he found it. Everything was still right where he left it when he took me there thirty-years later and, hopefully still remains UNTOUCHED. Selfish of me? IDK. My father's (and therefore mine as well) Algonquin/Mohawk heritage dictated that the site remain "unmolested" as a sign of respect for those who had either fled their home, or perished, leaving their belongings behind. The way my father saw it, and the way I came to understand "it": these "things" still belonged to them, and it would only be a matter of TIME before they returned to claim their belongings. Happy Hunting 🌎
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Hi CF, Great video and it’s very educational. History been hid from us.
I took a bus from CT to Green river, UT and started walking north along the green river. I walked the twelve miles to "The Beach" which is used for rafting tours exiting the canyon. Next day made the 25 mile hike to Nefertiti rock. Camped. next day 5 miles to Rattlesnake canyon and the pyramid. After two days camping went into the canyon. The experience was unlike anything id ever imagined and what I saw was life changing. I spent 6 weeks in the canyon, there was so much to see. I felt tiny.
R N it makes a difference to your psyche to know that you are able to get along in nature's environment for a season. Teach the young ones you know who are willing to learn.
@@kenycharles8600 This is the path that I have taken. Ty for the acknowledgement. be well.
awesome!
I'm grateful there are folks like you still around
I live in Moab, Utah. If you ever want to come out and tour some of the petroglyph/pictographs, I'll take you to some unique panels. We can also tee it up. Semper Fidelis.
Excited to watch..
Thank you for this amazing resource! There goes the rest of my weekend, lol! thank you and be well.
I used to play basketball 🏀 for the East Westchester Northstars-Champions of the Southern Conference. Thanks for the great information
thanks & hello from Plano, Illinois
Is that close to Tonica?
@@markmcarthy596 it is close, the neighboring county toward Chicago
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@@markmcarthy596 my oldest sister was born in LaSalle-Peru, work out of Naperville , by route 88 & Naperville Road, my other two sisters went & graduated from University of Illinois, YES, GO ILLINI!!!
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They probably used wooden ladders to get to the cliff shelters. That way you could pull the ladder back so they can't get to you.
No. Pit houses they were killed in because that is the truth. Not this crap. This is fraud.
Another informative vid. Thanks for all the knowledge you share.
It looked like the walls of the structure had everything to do with a survival function. I didn't see much of an artistic impression in the architecture is what I'm getting at. Thank you for this presentation.
My thoughts too Keny. It looks like the remains of peepers from another advanced civilisation before they gave up trying to build and make stuff. At that point they started living off the land proper.
Also I think the structures with exits in the roof no dofors or windows and the moccasins show a cold climate people, who from my research were far from hygenic,
As the snow and ice retreated they would have sucumb to diseases, whilst the Door window sandal wearer's would have had the advantage,
Food poisoning in the warmer climate would have also been a problem.
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thanks Al, can you elaborate on far from hygeinic?
@@ETALAL the digs they uncovered appear to be laid out facing the winter solstice. My place is laid out with the eastern wall facing the winter solstice and it warms up nicely in the winter if there is any sunshine and the wind is not blowing too hard.
The north wall is less subject to mold because it is exposed to the sunshine during the rest of the year.
At my latitude the north wall of structures will mold if you house is squared up with polar north.
@@kevio6868 Food scraps, excrement and dead bodies.
The milky way. Perfect! I thought it resembled a rainbow or a cave opening. As caves were considered sacred. But I changed my mind now. TY!!
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Great video, all new info to me , thank to all involved👍👏
I hiked to the Parrish Creek Utah petroglyphs recently, I would it amazing to see Freemont Indian sites so far north.
Howdy, Rochester tableau...shows someone familiar with Egypt. I have a print of this on my wall. It deserves a stand alone video
thanks cf
You're welcome bee bop.
All very intriguing. Thanks.
Also look up Buffalo Eddy its in hells canyon were i live there is petroglyphs on the rocks all over pretty cool
Its in Washington state
Valley of Fire Nevada is a great place to see this type of culture, good video.
Yes. May be headed up there soon.
@@cfapps7865 atlatl rock petroglyph panel and across the road from the canyon that leads to mouses tank are some of my favorite places to explore, thanks for the reply.
All of this blows my mind.. and how little we are taught or know about our own history... next summer I plan on packing up and going to see a lot of this. You should make a travel doc for people as a site seeing road trip to take around US
Thanks.
Superb work professor 👍
Didn't see a skull and a lot of the thoracic bones on the sketch. Could this have been an exhumation with certain bones taken, and a 'sacrifice' of maze made in exchange? That could explain the difference in the carbon dating.
Hay look up kamiah Idaho is the native American Nez-peirc tribe have a mound there called the hart of the monster its never been distributed in my opinion it could be a giant in it but who knows its interesting none the less just thought i would share that with you so you could take a look and who knows might be a video idea for you have a great day love your videos
I’m late to the show but this is an amazing culture. Escapees from Chacoan over bearing rule? Sounds right to me.
Were they precursors to Mimbres? Did they ceremonially “kill” the bowls, if buried with someone? Damn, I wish I wasn’t stuck in a wheelchair! I could definitely get off on working and analyzing a dig of this culture!
Are those glyphs at 1:30ish..part of the Squatterman phenomenon?
While visiting a dig site at Corn Creek in Southern Nevada just north of Las Vegas, I saw pounding holes for Mesquite seed and the maize also found there was around 5,000 years old. There are some much earlier mammoth hunting sites near there also. I would really like to know about both these people and how they related to the Fremont people and the rest of the "lower" South West.
The Heart Break Hotel site does look just like that kind of motel.
The beads are stunning
Awesome!
I wonder if East Freemont St in Las Vegas has any relation
Rex bear over at leak project is doing a lot on these pics
Those photographs are not Fremont. They are 8,000 to 4,000 years old and belong to an even more ancient culture. The Fremont did petroglyphs with triangle figures with horns.
Then what were they?
@@juliahart8593 We will probably never know. They were nomadic and did not leave much of a foot print. The first Freemont signs appear around 1,400 hundred years ago in the Uintah Basin then spread out through the rest of Utah in the following 200 years. If you are wondering what happened to the Fremont, They were wiped out by the Utes. The Shoshone arrived in Las Vegas area around 1,000 years ago kicked out some violent members who became the Utes. The Utes followed the Colorado river and every native tribe was killed. The Uintah Basin Freemont were the last Fremont and they disappeared around 1,700 A.D. Archeology does not like talking about this because it does not fit the narrative.
@@muttlyone2964I am inclined to believe you. Especially since Utah lake by the time of European contact was somewhat of a "no man's land" between the Shoshone and the Ute, often changing hands.
Go to Irish Canyon southern Wyoming and norther Colorado btween Rock Springs Wyoming and somewhere Colorado. Right on the border, little dirt road, same petrogliffs< round grain silos, other artifacts.
Noting the Spinning Cross motif, also the Horned helmet, which indicates communicated influences of an agricultural priest class, expressing the annual seasons by an Elk level of educated priest or teacher. This Zhretsi type of field development traces consistently through to at least 5500 BC, Bulgaria, who also imparted textile design traces to a large ratio of indigenous North American populations. These references are imparted in the Spiro Mound of Oklahoma as well.
Spinning cross IS the BIG DIPPER! It goes around the North star, and that's North` ) Sky watching ? )
*Fremont street?*
The moccasin’s are incredible
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Honoring ancestors was/is big for First Nations people. It is know that the Aztecs, who later became the Mexica, carried ancestors with them on their migration towards southern Mexico. And their migration lasted years.
The more ancient petroglyphs I would say are depicting ancestors because the way they/we stay alive is by being remembered.
Thanks for remembering them, they remain alive.
As I'm looking at the wall with all the hand prints, I have to wonder.. was that an Oath taken by a group of individuals towards a common purpose? It 'feels' like a Declaration of some sort.
theory I had never thought of before, nor heard of before. Thinking outside the box is what I try to do,, proving the theory is a whole other challenge.
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Just an impression. No way to prove it, but I do wonder if it was a pledge of some sort.. like a handprint Signature for a tribe or quest or something.. idk.
Hand art basically meant "I'm here", it was a means of affirming your humanness. The names ancient tribes called themselves was a variation of "The Prople", they often saw other tribes as enemies and subhuman.
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Nothing much has changed.. apparently.
I think it’s really cool that you have dinner at your moms
Dude I'm 65 and eat dinner with my mom every single day. I just walk up from the basement tho......
How are you today
most of those glyphs are discharge events
i was expecting you or kronos to comment on this.
can you splain pls for us ignors?
That's still a maybe! Flooding and a quick freeze from volcanoes are still on the frequency bonding Earth, for me. But, could be. John Keely Or Tesla, can't remember which right now) published pics of Mars, and claimed it was nuked. NOT scarred. Atomic suicide~ great book!!
Lave forming rocks ( Iceland right now) and "Dead" rocks are draining Water! Alchemy of Mother Earth and conditions quick fossilization, considering. ( I do like the spider woman as the magnetosphere, its a maybe. )
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Hi mate I'm from New Zealand and we had a big earthquake few weeks ago and still feel after shocks that seem to come regularly so I was a bit worried and just wanted to do some research and had a look on gmaps and as I followed the fault line up the east coast of nz and followed it out to sea and I notice lines running along the sea bed and was like wow they look like the lines in Peru and because I believe my polynesian ancestors had some connection with Peru I'm not saying we are from Peru but I can't accept what was taught to Maori and is strongly believe by Maori that we was lost at sea after leaving hawaiki and found new Zealand but my theory totally Contradicts what people to beleive to be the truth but if that was the case, then the concept kontiki or takitimu as we know it would have just being a theory and we would have been taught by the professional archaeologist that we was primative and drifted around the pasific.Through limit research debating and analysing I strongly believe that we was master and conquer of the pasific ocean and land warfare and sailed the world trading as we have ancient trade rights with eygpt so if we had trade as far as eygpt then we must have traded with everyone in between but no matter how much sense it makes in my head it's still near impossible to prove as our culture was being rejected thier culture by colonial influencers who taught that Maori was primative savages and forbid the use of Maori language and because we didn't have a written dialect and shared history by story's songs and carving almost lost our culture the reason why the captain and crew of the kontiki struggled to sail from Peru to pasific Islands cause they had to improvise and was not prepared for the survival experience which is why I say we master the art of sailing not just one catamaran but hundreds from around the pasific moving as an elite force along the pasific trade. The king chief and captain of the takitimu would have past down his status to his son and so forth, so with long distant trades may have taken till the next generation to get home and could be due to this and sly sabbatical methods by the royals and deplomats of England for control and power we might have lost the connection to the truth but if I'm right and this theory has some relation then I can prove we had evolve into supergene civilisations before being interrupted, so getting back to the lines I thought you know I've seen some of these lines and patterns as I was looking at them and thought what if the lines match up to the ones one the sea floor pfft that would be amazing and I would be on a great start but then I thought I'm not that amazing that's just stupid how would they make lines on the sea floor and why then it hit me a map so I looked up a diagram of nesca lines and the chart I came across had arrows pointing to the next picture and that pic pointed to another pic and when you looked at the whole thing it looked like the arrows followed a current pattern similar to pasific(still have to confirm,) and if you could harnest the wind on sea you could proberbly do it on land and it makes so much sense because before I went in the sea to kite surf I learnt how to fly the kite on land first which by the way I just throw it out there too but maori also had knowledge of aerodynamics witnessed in amazement by first contact with Maori the arrivals record sailing into the harbor and observing kids flying flax-weaved kites aye not to far fetch bet you I could get straight lines and curved lines on my kite and board idk maybe I'm in lala land and I just talked way to much but thought I would ask if you would like to look abit deeper with me or it could be just the most time wasting load of crap you may chose to ignore and I completely understand but with the archeologist being so clueless and ancient historical information being forgotten surpressed or even in burnt, I have to find out even if I'm wrong it will relieve curiosity of do I have a deep connection with my ancestors or should I go back to school till I'm at lest a propa thinker lol
Totem poles are made by first nation people , could they have a different meaning,
One possibility I have thought about is Thoth calls his father THOTME, maybe its pronounced 'to - tem 'after all Thotme,
is said to be "greatest among the children of light, keeper of the great temple,
link between the children of light and the races of men who inhabited the ten islands.
Mouthpiece, after the Three, of the Dweller of UNAL,
speaking to the Kings with the voice that must be obeyed."
Seems like a fine figure to worship. and a way to hand down the knowledge, Just a thought. might be a link.
No totem poles in the Southwest or Basin & Range areas. Totem poles are found in the Pacific Northwest.
The Fremonts, and their descendants, the Anasazi, were not "spiritual", in their drawings, but they were trying to be accurate, in leaving a record of what had happened to their ancestors. The Fremont People were the principal link in a chain that started on the Russian Steppes, when their ancestors started the Long Walk, that "ended" at Chaco Canyon (it didn't really end there).
Fremont ancestors had tracked down the eastern foothills of the Canadian Rockies, shedding off groups that would press on easterly, where possible, but the group that became the Fremonts arrived in the central Utah highlands circa 700BC. Almost two millennia later, their descendants, the Anasazi, would walk away from everything they built, leaving a mystery behind.
The Fremonts moved out onto the exposed clifftops, as water levels began to lower, then down onto the cliffsides, as they fell rapidly, at times, and finally, as Anasazi, out onto the prairies. When life-enabling water fell to more modern levels, the Colorado and San Juan Rivers, essentially, life was too hard elsewhere, and the Anasazi left, in search of greener pastures. Their descendants returned, as Navajo, Zuni, and Puebloans, several centuries later.
Why do they call "Fremont culture" when Jhon Fremont explored this areas almost 80 years after Expedition Dominguez-Escalante 1776. Tribes Tiwas, Timpanogos, Utes (yutas) among the others.
Why is Mt Nebo both, over "there" AND, in Utah? Because Utah is"spelled" incorrectly, should be..... Judah.
Is that the "ant people" who took the humans inside the Earth to ride out a cataclysm?
Hey man, besides lifting someone else's video and renaming it, you just show a bunch of rock art in your introduction which is not "Fremont" rock art, repeat NOT Fremont rock art... Some of it was Anasazi, some of it was Ute. The panel with the rainbow is of unknown origin. Still not Fremont. On the map you show a lot of Anasazi, Hohokam, and Mogollon ruins, not Fremont sites. So instead of adding anything of value to this lecture, instead you have added some misinformation and confusion. IRL the "Fremont" were probably ancestral Hopi.
Misattribution of Southwestern Pictographs and cultural artifacts is so common because it is popular. Once you start studying peoples and places you learn the differences and it becomes even more interesting. The casual You Tuber just watches for entertainment, they aren't scholars.
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Until the recent graffiti trend, the only ones that went out scratching on the rocks were kids. I wouldn’t put too much heart in this “symbolism“LOL
As I understand only the elders were taught to read and write???when you were younger you were more advantage as a hunter/worker for the tribe???
@@313barrygmailsure petroglyphs can be associated with messages and meanings, but it's not THAT far fetched to think that ANYONE couldve scratch some symbolic art on to rocks, it been done for millenia's. acedemics need to stop assuming that everything had an advanced purpose.
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Makes me wonder. They never did much....could be laying low from giants...hmm
Looks like the chief's house with rooms added for his many wives and children.
You da bomba, cfapps!
All archaeologists should do 2 or 3 acid trips a year in order to graduate. If they did, ancient rock markings and drawings wouldn't seem so mysterious. I notice it especially in Australian rock art.
And of course the pottery
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they are actually the aztec ancestors .... the land that was stolen from the natives ... originally from southwest (aztecs) moved to Mexico - Hernan cortes came - they(Aztecs) went back to Utah
The rock art looks very similar to Australian Aboriginal rock art .
Most rock art does look the same..
If you draw a figure of a man on Rock.
Then you find another drawing figure man on a rock in Australia..
Doesn't a human body have a head and two arms and two legs all around the world?
@@vatolocosforever803 thanks for the biology lesson, but I was referring more to the symbolism .
@@newman653 a circle looks like a circle anywhere on the world a square looks like a square anywhere in the world etcetera
@@vatolocosforever803 thank you for that insightful view of geometric shapes, you are truly a brilliant mind without comparison .
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I think it's insulting to put a structure of native Americans as heartbreak hotel that is so unsensible it is interesting how American archaeologists are able to go all over the world and give so much detail about other cultures yet the culture they took over they're unable to explain things correctly and put ridiculous names on things like heartbreak hotel absolutely insulting
naming things after the people that found it or them is totally freaking stupid ,
The ruins are not Fremont they are anisazi
Psalms 75: 6....is basically saying blessings come from the North! This idea is widely spead over the earth! It is original with Yahweh.
The earth is young! The original alphabet came from God! I have seen a few Indian petroglyphys that look like Paleo-Hebrew!
Google, the Northern Cross, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube!
Google, Hebrew Word Pictures, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube.
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