I bought it based on videos like that. But I found it is not good at all. The coffee pressure not exceed than 5 bars only. It should be 8-9 bars. The coffee temperature not exceed than 55 C only while it should be 92 C. The results is too bad coffee. The milk froth is accepted. Not very good of course but at least accept This is my review as I used it.
You need fine coffee grain to make the pressure really works. What you perceive as "fine grain" is often not fine enough for the machine. I'm about to buy this machine, and I read a lot of discussion between the seller (the authrorized distributor for the machine in my country) & the buyer about troubleshooting the same problem, where the seller sent their coffee samples to prove their point. The buyers tested with the coffee samples and the pressure goes to 9 Bar using the coffee samples. It is the grain size problem. Buyer often thinks their coffee grain is fine, but it is not. This is a typical problem with an espresso machine with non-pressurized portafilter, where grain size becomes a serious matter. It takes a learning curve to find the right balance of coffee grain size for the machine. Often times, a cheap coffee grinder does not cut it, and you have to buy a good coffee grinder which can really grind the coffee really well (really uniform fine grain). Many buyers facing this issue I told you before , solved their problem when they buy a good coffee grinder that cost them US100-120. On the other hand, an espresso machine with pressurized basket will solve the grain size issue by applying pressure to the basket itself. It takes almost zero learning curve for most users, but then a real coffee barrista will say that a pressurized basket will produce a fake crema, or "not the best espresso" compared to a non-pressurized basket if used correctly. You can find the difference between pressurized vs non-presurrized portafilter / basket in the internet. The machine in this video is using a non-pressurized portafilter (eventhough the machine itself applies some pressure to the basket/portafilter). If the coffee grain is not fine enough, then it will fail to apply enough force to extract the coffee oil (because the portafilter has many holes where the pressure easily escapes) Using a pressurized portafilter will enhance the extraction because this type of basket/portafilter only has 1 or few holes , enhancing the pressure applied to it.....say it "brute force" extraction....and therefore grain size does not really matter anymore. On the other hand, it is true that this type of basket will create some fake crema due to the basket only having few holes , making the coffee spurting instead of dripping. Pressurized vs non-pressurized basket/portafilter is a matter of preference. If you want the least learning curve, a pressurized basket will be best for most people. It will make a good espresso ....but not the best espresso. If you want the best espresso, then a non-pressurized basket will be better, but it takes a learning curve to find the best grain size for the machine......but it is not for everybody / casual daily espresso drinker....and you might even need an additional investment to buy a proper coffee grinder.
@@netrubbish I know and test it to put a finer coffee grain. Then it gives pressure more even than 9 bars but then the second issue here is the temperature is not good at all. It gives max. 55 C. My advice is buy an Italian one even if it is more expensive. By the way there is good Italian machine with accepted cost like Lelit
السلام عليك اخي الكريم.. معي استفسار اكون جدا شاكر لك اذا تجاوبه .. أنا انسان مبتدى ف حاليا محتار بين ذي المكينة و مكينة ديولنجي ديكا.. وين الافضل من وجهة نظرك؟؟
يا اخوان نصيح نصيح لي وجه الله لا احد يشتري من علي اكسبرس والله العظيم انه خساره وانهم غشاشين واغلب الاغراض لتصل مكسره من الداخل واسعارها هبل غاليه واغلب الاغراض تاتي ناقصه
شكراااا اخ وليد استفدت من شرحك كثييير انتي العربي الوحيد الي فهمت عليه
العفو نحنا في الخدمه
اخ وليد بالله حط لنا رابط البورتافلتر المكشوف بعلي اكسبرس
والله تستاهل مليون إعجاب ياخي ممكن تشرحالي كيف تشتري من اس بركس وبكم سعرها بالسعودي والمكينة كيفها طيبه ولا مشي حالك!؟
انا ضغط البار يوصل معي لل١٢.. كيف اخليه ع ال٩ ؟؟
السلام عليكم ممكن رابط البورتا فلتر المكشوف اللي صورته معاها طلبت نفس المكينه وابغا البورتا فلتر اللي معك
انا عندي من هوم اليك من قصر الاواني
اذا ارتفعت حرارة الموية لازم تطفيها عشان تبرد
تعطيك كوب واحد زين ثم لازم تطفيها
ممكن انت بعد التبخير ما تبرد المكينه
لازم بعد التبخير تخليها تنزل البخر قبل لا تستخلص مره ثانيه
بس تخليها تنزل البخار الباقي فيها 👍🏽
اخوي هل البتشر و البورتافلتر المكشوف يجو معاها ولا انت شاريهم اتمنى ترد ب اسرع وقت
azx_ azx9 لا ما يجو معاها
من وكيلها في السعودية
ممكن فديو تفصيلي اكثر
اي مطحنة توصي لها .. جزاك الله خير ع الشرح
اذا عندك امكانيه خد نوفا او فكتوريا ..اذا ما عندك خد ديلونجي تقريبا سعرها ٢٠٠
@@Ledo.wb1 عطني رابط شراء المطحنه اذا امكن 😘
بالنسبه للبورتافلتر المكشوف وش اللي يناسبه نفس تبع السيمانويلي ؟
وبعد السكرين واش اقدر اغيره ؟
انا طلبت زيها لكن ما حصلت فيها ضاغط حديد فقط بلاستيك الاسود ؟؟؟
هل قد جربت او سمعت عن ماكينة اريتي.. ايش وضعها؟ جيدة ماهي جيدة؟
I bought it based on videos like that. But I found it is not good at all. The coffee pressure not exceed than 5 bars only. It should be 8-9 bars. The coffee temperature not exceed than 55 C only while it should be 92 C. The results is too bad coffee. The milk froth is accepted. Not very good of course but at least accept
This is my review as I used it.
You need fine coffee grain to make the pressure really works. What you perceive as "fine grain" is often not fine enough for the machine. I'm about to buy this machine, and I read a lot of discussion between the seller (the authrorized distributor for the machine in my country) & the buyer about troubleshooting the same problem, where the seller sent their coffee samples to prove their point. The buyers tested with the coffee samples and the pressure goes to 9 Bar using the coffee samples. It is the grain size problem. Buyer often thinks their coffee grain is fine, but it is not. This is a typical problem with an espresso machine with non-pressurized portafilter, where grain size becomes a serious matter. It takes a learning curve to find the right balance of coffee grain size for the machine. Often times, a cheap coffee grinder does not cut it, and you have to buy a good coffee grinder which can really grind the coffee really well (really uniform fine grain). Many buyers facing this issue I told you before , solved their problem when they buy a good coffee grinder that cost them US100-120. On the other hand, an espresso machine with pressurized basket will solve the grain size issue by applying pressure to the basket itself. It takes almost zero learning curve for most users, but then a real coffee barrista will say that a pressurized basket will produce a fake crema, or "not the best espresso" compared to a non-pressurized basket if used correctly.
You can find the difference between pressurized vs non-presurrized portafilter / basket in the internet.
The machine in this video is using a non-pressurized portafilter (eventhough the machine itself applies some pressure to the basket/portafilter). If the coffee grain is not fine enough, then it will fail to apply enough force to extract the coffee oil (because the portafilter has many holes where the pressure easily escapes)
Using a pressurized portafilter will enhance the extraction because this type of basket/portafilter only has 1 or few holes , enhancing the pressure applied to it.....say it "brute force" extraction....and therefore grain size does not really matter anymore. On the other hand, it is true that this type of basket will create some fake crema due to the basket only having few holes , making the coffee spurting instead of dripping.
Pressurized vs non-pressurized basket/portafilter is a matter of preference.
If you want the least learning curve, a pressurized basket will be best for most people. It will make a good espresso ....but not the best espresso.
If you want the best espresso, then a non-pressurized basket will be better, but it takes a learning curve to find the best grain size for the machine......but it is not for everybody / casual daily espresso drinker....and you might even need an additional investment to buy a proper coffee grinder.
@@netrubbish I know and test it to put a finer coffee grain. Then it gives pressure more even than 9 bars but then the second issue here is the temperature is not good at all. It gives max. 55 C.
My advice is buy an Italian one even if it is more expensive. By the way there is good Italian machine with accepted cost like Lelit
@@netrubbish thank you for the helpful elaborate comment
Where do you put milk in?
هل تنصح فبها ؟ لقيتها في علي اكسبريس 50hz !
لو عايز تشتري اللي عندي انا مستعد ابيعها لك
@@Wailalbaz بالرياض
@@hemmoon3956 انا بعتها بالفعل
شو اسم المكينا
السلام عليكم التامبر المعدن معها ولا اشتريته؟
عليكم السلام معاها
لا مش معاها الي تامبر بلاستك مقاس ٥١ مش ٥٨
لازم تشتري تامبر
لو عايز تشتري اللي معايا انا مستعد ابيعها لك
انا عندي نفس الالة هذي وابغى اغير الشور سكرين لها كيف؟
هل تبخيرها مناسب
السلام عليك اخي الكريم.. معي استفسار اكون جدا شاكر لك اذا تجاوبه .. أنا انسان مبتدى ف حاليا محتار بين ذي المكينة و مكينة ديولنجي ديكا.. وين الافضل من وجهة نظرك؟؟
owais ali عليكم السلام ديلونجي انا ما قد جربتها لكن دي ناسبتني جدا من ناحية البورتافلتر لان مقاسها ٥٨م
owais ali التبخير شويه يتاخر ممكن ياخذ منك ٧٠ثانية لكن يعطيك نتيجة حلوه
Brother this machine still working good?
Yes
@@Ledo.wb1Last how many month you using this machine?
طيب كان خليت العنوان عربي
فيها برمجه؟
كيف هذي المكينه تنصحنا فيها ؟؟
بالنسبه لي عجبتني لان البورتفلتر ٥٨ م وكمان تبخير جميل للناس الي يحبو يرسمو
عادي اخذ بن جاهز واسويه ؟!
ايوه بس المطحون من وقتها يكون طعمه احلى لان بعد فتره البن المطحون يبداء يفقد طعمه يعني حاولي تاخذين كميات قليله عشان تخلص بسرعه وتجيبين جديده بسرعه
كيف تقييييمك للمكينه الان ؟
٦
من ١٠
ليه
السلام عليكم بالنسبة للبورتافلتر كم مقاسه ؟؟
58mm
لقيت موقع يبيعها ارخص من علي اكسبريس بحوالي ٣٥٠ ريال اسم الموقع بانقود Bangood
يحي نجار تنصح في هذي المكينه ؟؟؟
يا اخوان نصيح نصيح لي وجه الله لا احد يشتري من علي اكسبرس والله العظيم انه خساره وانهم غشاشين واغلب الاغراض لتصل مكسره من الداخل واسعارها هبل غاليه واغلب الاغراض تاتي ناقصه
كم مشتراها
لو عايز تشتري بتاعتي انا مستعد ابيعها لك
@@Wailalbaz مستخدمه والا جديدة
وايش وضعها تنصحنا والا الديدكا ؟
هل طحنة الاسبريسو مناسبة لها ؟ والا ايش الطحنه لانه ماعندي طاحونه
اشتري طاحونه افضل لك ..اكيد طحنة الاسبريسو ..بس لازم تجرب طحنات لين تشوف الطحنه الكويسه