Learning Expert Reacts to Top Medical Student Advice
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0:00 How does this work?
0:44 Med school student’s methods
06:35 Writing summary pages
07:22 Doing crosswords
08:19 Doodling on iPad
09:45 Feynman method
11:35 Ask for more challenging questions, revise, and do homework.
14:36 Doing revision with linear notes and stopwatch
15:52 Best revision technique?
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"The only downside is, you need friends..." 😂
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The next video should be on "How to get friends?" 😩
The downside is not you need friends but you need friends who want to study with you, not waste your time.
@JustinSung Do you think this study contradicts the claims you make about higher order learning?
Agarwal, P. (2019). Retrieval Practice & Bloom’s Taxonomy: Do Students Need Fact Knowledge Before Higher Order Learning? Journal of Educational Psychology, 111, 189-209
@@expeditioner9322higher order learning makes use of lower order techniques. that is why bloom's taxonomy is structured the way it is; the levels are cumulative, much like a pyramid.
10:49 "The way you teach something also changes the way you think about it" - Justin Sung
Exactly ;)
these type of videos have the fun side and the education side , I hope these series continues
Are you here for fun??😶
Hey learning should be fun :)
Having fun while learning has research backing it up to be a great multiplier of learning.
As an added benefit , it's accessible to more people as well , who wouldn't have watched the video otherwise
tips-1:22 3:30 9:00 12:09 ✍🏾
thanks for the video 🙋🏾♀
This should be pinned! :D
Amazing video! Definitely going to use the advice you gave to the 0:44 clip, of priming not just one lecture, but multiple lectures of the same topic/concept.
Like it, like it, like it....keep them coming Dr Justin.
As an older person going back to school, your videos have taught me a lot of new ways to learn. I do not stick to one technique to learn. The U.S. schools have failed us.
Thanks so much for leaving your message. I'm glad you've found them useful :)
I am one of those Asian desperate students 😢 . But now I am starting to have fun learning with your help. 🤩🤩
That's great to read!
Great and fun video😍! Thank you so much for your explanations 😊
"The only downside is that you need friends 😬..." 💀
Haha!
Guys, I think I found the *absolute best method* to annoy Dr Sung... 😁
First of all, really want to show appreciation to the previous little workshop you had with CEOs in a previous video. That really showed me practical steps of how learning should be. I would really love a video where you go in-depth about micro decision-making when you're forming and confirming connections and coordinates on mind maps. Maybe a nitty gritty detailed video on how to follow along making relationships, based on what and how. That would be really helpful. Thanks a lot Justin
Thanks for your message. I appreciate it. I'll take that on board and think about how I can try to do that. The problem is that TH-cam is not great for those kinds of videos as the algorithm punishes longer videos that aren't broad appeal (to an extent). I'm thinking about the best way to do this. This is also one of the reasons I have a paid course in the first place because I don't have to worry about an algorithm.
@IamKudos his paid course is super high quality, highly recommend from personal experience. Much more benefit than expected - it is effortful but I really think it's a game changer
"Oh you missed 0.5" had me dead. I love these videos
Thanks, watching everything ya got
My man Justin is just soo under rated
Hope you will achieve 500K at the end of this year❤
Thank you! At this rate I'll hit 500k by the end of this lifetime haha
Justin, if you haven’t already, I would appreciate it if you could create a video just going over your revision/study methods, how to use them and how they work. Like an “all in one video”. Thanks, ❤
I think he did it came out like 3weeks ago
The doodling tip really helps when it comes to focussing just a bit better
I really like these videos, they are really entertaining! ❤
I really like your comment! Thanks
For me flashcards work only when I am learning new words. For other subjects they usually take a lot of time
Indeed. Thanks for the comment!
Yes the only conclusion i came with flashcards
That’s because flashcards were never meant to be a resource to learn something. This seems to be a common misconception spread here. Anki was never designed to learn complex information. Rather it’s meant to review what you have already learned and understood. That’s my main complaint with Justin’s take on Anki. He makes it sound like Anki is the learning platform. You can do what he says using mind maps and whatnot for deep processing AND still use Anki to review that information for the long run
@@chrismundanchery4357 flash cards help me learn 😭
Can we have a detailed video on revision techniques for high volume content pls!
mine is questioning everything for understanding and analyse first and relate atleast 5 similar topics , evaluate , apply to solve problems , teaching with spaced revision .
dr, if you may, do try and review indian study methods and routines we employ for competitive exams like JEE, NEET, UPSC, CAT. i think you'll be in for a treat 😂
I think Justin you should make an video on Richard Feynman's studying technique, a lots people are saying this is one of best way to study with cognitively processing of information not just remembering everything.
The best channel on YT!
Thanks
I may have a question about higher order learning .Does it work when you try to learn something from ALOT of videos ? not from a book or paper *
how do you know if you have deep processing abilities tho, sometimes i feel like i do find connections naturally during flashcard review, but at the same time i doubt if i really do have it
idk if this info is meaningful, but im a high achieving student, straight a kinda thing
Can i tell from there? I use mostly anki based studying (mainly bio, some computer science theory, and history)
My history is literally pluck straight from textbook kinda questions, its literally rote memorization so that's why i use anki for it
I dont rlly use flashcards for subjects like chem, since somehow the connections come naturally from there, instead i just make tiny notes while reading through syllabus questions for those that im not sure of.
I have a question about memorising.. like there are some single facts like in chemistry i need to memorise atomic groups or atomic numbers so is there a right approach to memorising things like this or what?
Hi Justin! Love your videos. Does the hand movement engagement also apply to learning via listening? Would love to know. Thanks so much and hope you are well! #TEAMiCS
Id say flash cards are comparatively more useful in law school since precision of exact wording matters a bit more; which anki is somewhat conducive to.
Could you go more into deep processing and tips and techniques to achieve this state. Is it a bit like flow state?
Your channel is gonna get me into med school
18:13 I thought you were gonna say 'in some countries some study techniques are banned' lol
Keep it going
What do you mean by deep processing? What does the process actually look like in someone's head?
Is there a video someone can point me to?
Thank you
Hi Justin, could you please give me some study tips or methods which are effective in lawschool? 🙏🏻
Can we have a detailed video on revision techniques for high volume content pls
In my country it was mendetory to do all the homework. If you failed to do so, your grade got worse, waaay worse, since the teacher thought of you as a lazy student.
In these instances I recommend: 1) Is it marked as complete/not complete, or actually graded on quality? If graded on quality, is it marked strictly? - If it is only complete/not complete, or the grading is not hard to meet, then do the bare minimum and save as much time as possible. 2) If neither of these are possible, and you HAVE to spend lots of time doing homework to a high quality, you MUST develop more efficient priming and encoding skills so that you can work ahead of the class schedule and not have to worry about it during the week. This will require you to be proactive at getting resources and learning objectives so you can self-study. Obviously it requires a greater degree of skill and a full studying system to pull this off. While I cover this in my paid program, it's a little harder to teach all the nuances of creating such a system from A-Z on TH-cam. I'll think of how I can meet these needs in future videos without being algorithm-punished though.
The “where you got the confidence” killed me
Tip from a low budged student: buy a graphic table instead of a tablet
I'm preety comfortable with my laptop but missed a "digital handwritten" note sometimes, the table solved my problems and the price is less than 10% of a decent tablet (at least in my country)
Really, game changer
18:18 What revision methods don't work in "other countries", especially in Asia?
Although these videos don't teach anything in detail, they sure are a fun watch. Cheers!
New subscriber here from Manila, Philippines. I'm a desperate student, too.
11:35 you missed the .05, I'm dead XD
9:25 i never knew about this ,i will try this
Hey please make a video on your opinions and advice for neet and jee aspirants in india ......how you view the exam and what methods should they follow etc 😊
We're planning this kind of hyper specific content for the iCanSTudy channels!
@@JustinSung cool ! Can't wait 🤩
I want to publish a paper and I have written a manuscript and submitted it in a journal .But it was rejected.I am in last year in my undergrad.Can you help me? Please?
Is your bear hunter system.
Asking questions, organising them into chunks and later finding and writing the notes using delayed note taking and pics.
Aka inquiry based learning
It's a lot more involved than that in terms of how to do each of those steps to a high quality. Executing the same step but thinking about them in the wrong way can result in completely different levels of learning benefit. But as a very very very basic surface level, your summary is generally right.
Omg im gonna do the crossword one
Kindly do a video on how read for oral exams
How do u make the mind map not waterfall from the last video
Can anyone recommend me best tablet for note taking
Need friends?? That’s a downside, Finally someone who understands me
Hello:))
I love your videos but I am not sure how I can use your techniques when I am studying organic chemisty... how can I memorize a presentation full of mechanisms 😭😭😭 800pages....
I can't believe doodling is a thing. And I'm not saying that because it's stupid, but because I've been doing iton for many years, and have always looked crazy in the library.
At first I was making random hands movements on a blank paper with a pen. And during my least year, I was simply mimicking writing, with no pen or paper. I literrally can't stop myself from doing it while I'm being focused and reading on a topic
Yea it does help with focus. The only problem is that it isn't the magic solution for most people (unless the only thing stopping them was a slight reduction in focus - which is unlikely).
@@JustinSung yeah, I think it requires you to be already focused. No way it will « make someone focus » by itself
Justin, please rely. There are researches thats show efficiency with focus for people having adhd.
There is a new K-Drama called doctor slump. And it's these two leads who were both top national students and also top med-school graduates from top schools. And the female lead is this "I studied 17 hours a day. Now I work 17 hours a day. All for this dream."....I decided to see this as some sorta comedy thing. Like parody/satire or what about the Korean education system rn. Cause it's insane. 17 hours a day???? As a high-schooler???? oh my lord. what a weird thing to be proud of and what a weird price to be a top student. There is also this other reality show called university wars where the top 5 Korean unis best students are playing something similar to squid games but for the mind and later on Harvard joins in. And the comparison is so funny. Harvard students are all like "We study a bit, but we mainly enjoy our (rich) lives and hobbies" and Korean students are like "I busted my ass all my life, rote memorisation this that" haha...
Heyy I would like to ask that if one struggles to structure an answer properly despite having the major points down does it imply lack of deep processing, a language issue or is it just a different skill that needs to be learnt.
What resources should I use to start learning about metacognition, cognitive psychology, and productivity. I am deeply interested in researching how learning works and applying it directly to my studies but I am not sure where to start
I can study course by justin sung best thing you can do actually
@@rothlemorgan144 i have known a handful of technqiues through discord btw but I want to learn more about the theory and research
He has a course you can check out!
I found “How to write good prompts” by andymatuschak on google. Andy looks like he knows what he’s talking about and tells you exactly what to do and it’s free. And he shows plenty of research paper backing up his claims. Would be cool if Justin reviewed it so people could use his website as a free resource
Alright, I’ll slowly brake my bad habits … I’m not ready to leave notability yet lol full blown panic when I opened concepts 😅
Just found this channel via Vinh ❤
What do you think about Elizabeth Filips? She's on TH-cam.
5:24 Effectiveness
The mic sounds kinda stuffy and high pitch. Hope for a better mic sets on upcoming videos!
So i have like a month and a week to study for a physiology exam (270 pages), what's "the best way" to go about this?
Anyone.....
Start now, check past exams
I feel like you haven’t research Anki very well. The lack of context, not understanding whole picture, etc can easily be combatted through Anki’s built in features, immense amount of additional capabilities through add-ons, and just general principles of proper flashcard creation that anyone can learn. IMO your logic only really applies if you’re a beginner to Anki and don’t have prior experience creating flashcards. As someone who’s been using it for a while I’ve had none of the complaints you’ve mentioned because I know how to make Anki work
I kinda learnt that everything in regards of learning depends on your general level of processing😅😂
Hello! A newbie fan here. Is it okay to read multiple sources for a certain topic at the same time? Im trying to learn about history and that I'm spending most of my time at the public library in my place; I would then start to read from book to book about topics which similarly correlates into a single idea but has more information within them. Thank you!
He actually encourages working with multiple sources. 2 at a minimum, if I recall correctly.
@@weirdlyspecific302 thank you! ♥️
I guess I am first, nice video.
Thanks!
I bought a new iPad to do non-linear integrated thinking
Can you clarify what non-linear integrated thinking is? I searched online but only found vague answers.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
how do u start transitioning into non linear note taking😭
1:50 agree.. i can read (and type) faster than i can lisent
i love how the brain and eye see a long word and instantly know what it mean, without having to hear it for 1 2 second,
then i wonder how far i can "see a sentence" in 1 second lol (but small detail of "the they them if is this as some could" precision is important not miss 1 letter change everything)
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7:04 prioritization of valuation of information ... sapiosexual triggered
and then i thought i climaxed and you drop 7:50 "limitation of isolated information recall" "testing your conceptial difficulty in network of integreted thought, " "get the deep benifit of the deep processing really
The crosswords 😂 “you know what…”
Would like to see a debate bw yourself and Jordan Peterson re: IQ
He believes it is what is. Research says at most 10pt increase. You seem to think it can be improved, but to what degree.
An interesting conversation it may be
Hey bro do you need a video editor? I can help you
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I thought the doodling method was a joke! Didn't realise she meant it seriously 😅😅
yupp XD
6:21 ok..... OUCH!
Brain dumping > Blurting
Icanstudy lingo is superior
Is it okay if you don’t take notes ?
I don't think so, taking notes is crucial when studying. You still can learn just listening and reading but the information tends to be forgotten so you generate many gaps in your knowledge. If you are having trouble taking notes while listening to the lecture, have some pre-information of the class (studying the topic of the lecture before hand) so that way you can take less notes. Also as Justin says, there are better note taking methods, but not just "better", you can upgrade your note taking system if you know what to prioritize and use something similar to "learns the brains way", aka Mindmaps because they engage more in higher-order learning.
@@ReStellarr so what if I use review books after learning a topic instead of making notes or it is going to be linear learning instead of active
@@dazaiosamu6071 mmh, I think if you just review books after learning a topic might be linear if you don't engage more in higher-order learning. My point of view in just reviewing is that you are only doing active literature and it might not be enough to engage in deep processing (Thinking from various perspectives). In theory, every method is linear, ones more than others so doing multiple or recreating one to be as non-linear as possible might be the best way to do so. Remember that I am just stating my own personal opinion, I am not a professional in this area so I recommend watching Justin videos to widen your view on learning. Test for yourself if reviewing a topic after learning is a good method for you, identify the gaps in your knowledge and adapt to your own method :D
@@ReStellarr thank you so much for your advice
6:21 😂😂
6:15 hit me like a truck.
Justin your other videos are good but please don't rate those old , inefficient & not interesting techniques, as they are not useful for smart ppl . Plz continue with you old videos higher Order Learning & other strategy ❤
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Yoooo justin
i wonder if there are any study advice tips that you would never ever use, like you wouldn't come near with a ten-metre stick
If you want to grow your channel, start being more concise in your videos and do something below 20 minutes more often.
banger vid 12th viewer
6:23 Why did you have to be this harsh ? :')
I like how justin is making the degenerate mindless meme reaction public get actual value by cueing them to think about stuff.
wow never been this early bye
No come back
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The only downside , is you need friends 😂😂