You Hate to See It: The Top 10 Tournament Controversies and F@*k Ups
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- You rarely notice when a tournament runs smoothly. It’s just what they’re supposed to do. The competitors show up, they battle it out and a victor is crowned. Job done. Everyone goes home.
When they go badly though, oh you never forget. They stay seared into our collective memories and become the stuff of legend.
These are the Top 10 Tournament controversies and mishaps in esports.
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The smash 4 bayonetta stall definitely needs more context. The crowd kept constantly booing and screaming fuck you everytime each player went to go up to play their sets throughout the tournament, so they both decided to piss off the crowd at the finals.
Smash is all the reference you need. 🤷♂
wasnt bayo super OP at the time? A bayo mirror in grand finals seems to imply so aswell
@@ericfreack yes she was incredibly good, by a mile, she was the smash equivalent of Tekkens Leroy when he first launched.
@@ericfreack This was after Bayo got nerfed and she was still seen as the best character in the game by a wide margin. There's a reason she was being compared to Brawl Meta Knight who was the most broken character in Smash history and probably in the top 5 for broken fighting game characters of all time. It was also the final time Smash 4 was at EVO and this ruined the game's legacy for a lot of people.
I loved that! Just two dude chatting and having a good time. That's great! xD
It's a miracle: Olofboost was not mentionned 🤔
The Olaaf boost and Fountain Hook kinda falls in the same category as they both used unintended glitches to win their games.
@@Gianski150 The reason he said it was because thescore includes the olafboost in almost every video
Haha
weirdly timed april fools joke, but word
Wait. Thats illigal. The olofboost was a single move that in its core destroyed the entire tournament.
"The other team cheated, but Riot said you still would have lost anyways." Yikes TSM then at least had an excuse
LOL
Made my day tho
I mean... they're not wrong
It’s irrelevant though. They cheated. Should be an automatic disqualification regardless. Absolute joke.
NA isn't good in anything man we just gotta accept it.
@@shaunbarratt8251 facts, its about principle no one actually thought they would win, but you can't just disregard cheating, would have been interesting to see how it would've played out if they were caught before the series ended and not after worlds ended. I can only support riots decision because I'm pretty sure they addressed it after worlds ended so they can't really go back and change the outcome
I love how Chiken is apparently more controversial than the olof boost lmfao.
Bcs chicken is life lol.
A yes, Smash 4 Bayonetta...
should have been banned alongside brawl MK
@@oussama7132 and ice climbers
A beautiful tragedy
that scene was damn lucky ultimate was around the corner to overshadow the controversy
Is there a reason as to why they just held B?
The thing about the no. 1 situation is that the Smash 4 crowd was booing them from the start that they were Bayonetta mains, cos it was the most broken character in Smash 4. So in protest they just said, how screw you guys, we made it to the finals and we do what we want, so they just stalled the game.
It doesn't help that Captain Zack was toxic as f*ck (and to a lesser extent Lima) at the time
Really brings down the Smash scene. The players are toxic, the fans are toxic, and even the pro players are toxic. When you're on the stage on the last tournament of the game, it's a VERY wrong time to be toxic back.
@@lyonvensa and also zack isn't innocent of almost ruining a career maliciously
@@issadraco532 Admittedly, I don't really follow the scene either, but they did it in the grand finals of the very last Smash 4 (Fact check me here if I got the installment wrong) tournament. However you look at it, though, the scene gives it a very bitter goodbye to the game's esports history.
It's probably akin to the other team purposely injuring a player who's on their last game before retiring or something.
@@issadraco532 this is the stupidest take i have seen in a while. Every single pro player in any game spends countless hours practicing and honing their skills. This is no different from any other sport. Then you have a crowd who is constantly booing you just because you are using or playing something, they don't like. You have no idea how these people even got to the venue of the tournament, hoping to watch something they love and then they were treated to this. You would also leave with a bitter taste. It doesn't matter if it's a video game tournament or the super bowl or whatever. To you it might not be a big deal but for those participating and/or attending it? it is a pretty big deal.
I feel like smite world championship 2019 could easilybe on here, hirez forced 1 team each game to use broken keyboards and when the players tried to call pauses so they could try and get them in working order again the hirez admins didnt pay attention and even blamed the players for either not signaling or signaling to late
bro who watches smite in 2020 smh get outta here
Gotta love HiRez
ninja turtles make me happy
ye, that one was just a joke of a mess tbh. bad keyboards, lazy admins and shit headphones
Smite lmao
I love how in every list about broken or generally awful characters or metas Sm4sh Bayo is always near or at the top
It's because Bayo was Pay2Win that was never really patched away because of Ult's development
In general
Doubles 4 Cloud
Meta Knight
Final 4 Bayonetta
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 a dlc character isnt what pay to win is lmao. you dont just win by playing her you have to actually be good
@@yasso2031 90% of the players that made it to the higher rankings with her just fell to obscurity upon Ultimate's release, and pre-patch, everything on her was too easy
@@yasso2031 as far as fighting games go, sm4sh bayo is the closest thing to pay2win
Meta Knight in Brawl was way more broken
Valkyrae isn't a former 100 thieves member. She's current
i was like wtf huh?
nobody asked
@@crothonix6470 dont you think they want corrections or what?
@@cloroxbleach4227 nobody asked
@@cloroxbleach4227 nobody asked
We all know the olofmeister boost was there in spirit but too prudent to show it.
danny burke at the score esports???
damn i'M kinda fascinated, only knew him from the most amazing top ten.. really like the guy
nice move to bring him in!
You beat me to it man. That was what I was gonna say. I love this guys voice. So is rebecca gonna come here too?
Glad I'm not the first one to notice he was from Most Amazing Top Ten, his voice is very nice 👌
That's where I knew him from!
Same thing here! :D
Exactly what I was thinking!
Surprised that CSGO's Gaming Paradise tornament wasn't on here. That would have been #1. On my list, at least.
Or when forsaken cheated in a tournament
Omg yes gaming paradise. That was something else
Wheres forsakens cheating
Or Dota 2 Shanghai Major
@@alanmonteros6432 Yeah... That was shit
Was hoping the DotA 2 Shanghai Major would have made it on this list
nail it
Bad tournaments is actually too common
Shanghai Major 100% should've been at least in the top 3
What happened during this Major? I only remember Secret's victory.
@@Hadrien883 just search up shanghai major vids to find glory
I don't really care for Valkyrae (she keeps...interesting company), but I have a ton of respect for her calling herself out and disqualifying herself when she realized she was inadvertently cheating
It's kinda old, so lesser known, but Triggers Down vs Classic at MLG Orlando 2009 has got to make this list.
Orlando '09 was the National Championships of the year for MLG Halo 3, and TD was a favourite to win it all. They were playing Team Classic, and winning fairly comfortably. TD needed one more game to win the series and advance, and were running the final flag back to their base in a game of CTF. Literally inches away from scoring and winning the match, a TD players Xbox overheated and died, ending the game.
After consulting the rules, it was determined that the game of CTF had to be replayed from the start. Classic went on to win the game, series, and place 2nd. TD finished 6th.
"former 100 Thieves streamer" :O
nobody asked
@@crothonix6470 asked what?
@Balakeh ah okay, cheers:)
Wanker creator doesnt know shit.
They got the inside info kekw
The LoL Season 2 disconnects (and the Azubu Frost screen peeking) were embarrassing for Riot, but they happened back in 2012 when they were still a small company producing their first ever major independant tournament.
The Warcraft III DC's? Happened _this year._ In a supposedly "updated" remake of a game from _2002._ Run by _Activision Blizzard._ Now THAT'S embarrassing.
Wait so you guys included the FLY game, but not DRX and GenG? They had to switch to live servers and the Series was going on for about 7-8 hours...
it arguably won drx the series and got them to worlds, in another world they dont get through in the gauntlet.
I think that would be here if Gen G didnt won against T1 in the Regional Finals so they avoided that much more controversey
I know it's been talked about a lot on this channel, but Im surprised Olofmeister's FNC Boost in CSGO was not even mentioned here.
I mean in the end LDLC got the win so i think its understandable
I clicked to see Shanghai major shitshow.
Didn't see a single clip. sad
What happened there
You can dedicate a whole vid to that
yeah where is it the best shit show ever
@@donk5058 almost everything that could go wrong went wrong.
they literally fired the production halfway through because of how much of a shithow it was @Donk
sonic fox switch seats should be number 1 . That was so controversial in the Fgc
The rules should have said “sure but your controls will be mapped in reverse 😝”
agreed. dirty move.
Honestly so much respect for that move if it was intended to ice. Actually genius, can't even be mad LOL
controversial true, but Bayo Smash 4 Finals almost killed the scene
Nah. Although it was controversial, its still very much legal in the ruleset. Im in both the fgc and smash and i can def say that the captain zack one was way worse
The fountain hook will always have a spot in my heart.
BUT HOW??!! HOOKED ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BASE...CLEANED UP BYYYY THE FOUNTAIN!!!
Honestly it's just legendary
fountain hook was present on dota1, its sad they killed it. It was a brand for itself tho pudges hook on dota1 curves depends on the terrain its going
@@dadee96 Terrain didn't matter, but the ability was tethered to your hero. So if you walked to the side after casting, it would curve with you.
Like dendi said,if it easy to do it then go on do it yourself. Most people can't do it because of the bad timing
omg i remember watching danny burke on most amazing top 10
good luck for the new journey danny !
I'm glad they hired Danny burke i've seen him in other Top 10's vid and his voice is very soothing and professional i can't wait for more vids with danny burke narrating :>
Every time I see [A]Loda crying about fountain hook, it reminds me of the same fountain hooks HE tried to land, failed miserably and got salty when NaVi did it.
And him saying that it ruined the game, and then Alliance produced the worst and most anticlimactic TI ever by literally just Natures Prophet backdooring through the entire bracket and the grand finals. Was such a shitty grand finals to watch.
Sonic fox stalled the shit out of that, if he kept going it was gonna be a wreck for him.
oh yeah he knew exactly what he was doing to try and ice the situation
more new homie, you a chill dude man. keep it up, your amazing!!
6:05 Riot didn't 'decide' to remake the game. Chronobreak didn't exist at this point and there was no way to bring it back to the previous game state. The only option was to remake, or have the team losing when the disconnect happened forfeit. 12 mins and 2 kills is not enough to just assume WE would have won. Same with game 3.
8:03 wait... so Thorzain got screwed REALLY HARD...TWICE!
That was so bad. I feel really bad for him
LODA still salty about fountain hooks
and what's worse was a few months earlier on that match loda also tried fountain hook (i forgot who they were matched up with but it was an unknown team) and failed miserably
@@JohnSmith-tx4od i don't play dota or know the teams. But a full health execute regardless of how behind you are seems pretty broken. Idc how much skill it takes to learn, once you practice anything enough, it's easy to pull off. And even if it was hard to do, it's still an unintended execute that makes the game look bad on stage. Like what new player would want to play the game when they see an obvious and broken bug like the fountain hook on stage and not even get punished.
@@KevinEF Hello! I know it's been months but I'd like to answer this. The thing with the fountain+hook is that no matter how much you practice, it does not necessarily mean you'll land hooks much easier. I'd like to expand this with three points:
1) Though one can improve hooking enemies through practice, hooks generally boils down to prediction. Which is VERY hard at high level play.
2) They are facing a PRO team. One would expect that a PRO player be mindful of a pudge(the hero that uses hook) and adapt accordingly. If you watch the replays of the fountain hook, you would notice that tongfu(the opposing team) was either stagnant or very predictable with their movement.
3) Lastly and most importantly; the execution of a fountain hook goes like this: a chen(the hero that sends pudge to base) casts a skill that makes the pudge teleport to the fountain, however there is a 4 second interval before this happens, and during these 4 seconds the pudge player must time the hook so that the hooked hero goes with him. So to summarize, •Chen casts teleporting skill •Pudge waits a couple seconds then hook.
All of this requires tremendous prediction even from the chen( deciding whether the enemy is approaching or not so he can teleport pudge).
Though I do get your point, just wanted to clear things out with this lengthy comment🤣 Cheers
@@KevinEF Personally it does not look bad on stage, rather it shows the high level skill that Dendi(the pro player that used pudge) has in that time. And I think it even hyped not just the crown but the whole community🤣 To each his own I guess. Your point is valid tho.
Randomly coming across a video with Danny after not seeing him in so long is such a good feeling
Anybody remember the CXG tournament cancelation in 04? was supposed to be the first big FPS lan of 04. A minor ranked team from LA lost to a major ranked team, minor got talked shit on, and one member of the team came back to teh venue with a gun threatening the major team. canceled the whole event because of this. Might be a little to far back for anyone to remember though.
Scores hired a new guy! Goof luck on your career man!
GOOF LUCK INDEED
GOOOFFFFFFF
He is actually a former host on another channel MostAmazingTop10s, so he already has experience
@@Karumnieks_ oh yeah. No wonder why he looked so familiar to me.
He kinda sounds like SpikeyMikey, the TF2 TH-camr
The Smash 4 Bayo one probably needs some additional context: those guys were being booed all tournament for using Bayo. Must be really cathartic to be able to troll the audience (who were booing them all tournament) like that.
Yeah. Like, it was an immature thing for them to do, but it didn't come out of nowhere. Smash 4's community got so toxic about Bayo.
The Northern Arena Rocket League Invitational 2 could be on here. It was in the Ontario Science Centre and there was this space exhibit just outside out of the auditorium. In the exhibit was this launch simulator with air prsessure and this metal disc going up a tube. Every time the metal disc hit the ground, an EXTREMELY loud DING would happen. Ugh it was awful. It was hearabld in the audio too on stream.
I was at Anaheim for that tournament and the employees were not the brightest. Literally disconnecting Ethernet ports over and over again. Worst experience I’ve ever had
3:38 "The former 100 thieves streamer..." Valkyrae is still in 100 Thieves, this is either misinformation or a mistake.
IT'S MISINFORMATION BRO!!!! IT'S 100% INTENTIONAL POLITICAL MISINFORMATION TO SWAY THE ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!one11!!!buzzwords
bruh another one?, well then i'll tell tell you the same thing I told the other guy; nobody asked
@@crothonix6470 nobody asked you
Who cares about this nobody
@@crothonix6470 uhh do you know what "comment" means?
I felt so bad for Thorzain when those DC:s happened :(
If there is one that I would add, it would everything that was fighting game tourney, Canada Cup 2018. I was live for that crapshoot
I got one for you that happened to myself as a Coach
In the Vainglory Championship we (Fnatic) faced off against mouz and we had to remake the match after around 9 mins (Vainglory matches used to take 15-25 min) because we were on the wrong side of the map...
We went for a 1 time use tactic that only worked with a special invade and not if the enemy knows whats happening... In the first game we snowballed massively and the game was as good as over (imagine a 20k gold lead at 15 mins in League) then we had to remake with the same drafts and with them knowing our gameplan and rotation we couldnt pull off the combo.... They won easily with our mentality being broken and our comp being unable to work. This then continued to be a Nightmare but then for mouse as the match was remade again the next day wkth different drafts which we then won... Overall just a nightmare for both teams getting a win taken from them and all over an issue that didnt really exist as the map was completely symmetrical and the draft was done on the correct sides in the first place.
Player 1 side in fighting games always seems to have a greater advantage since that’s the side most players carry out their training and better chance of not dropping a combo.
Unless your playing a Mishima in tekken.
@@spawnedagony I find electrics easier on p1.. maybe thats just me.
@@GrassSaint33 it is just you, no disrespect. It's naturally easier to do the motions on two player side on average
@@spawnedagony I'll believe that. Tekken is the only game I play pad instead of stick that might be part of it also.
CaptainZack is and will always be a thorn in Smash Brothers side
He is a sociopath whos ruined smash careers for profit
Wow I didn't know Danny Burke is part of theScore esports! Love you Danny, I was already fan back at Most Amazing Top10s!
Well, another one to add to this list now; MSI 2021.
Semi-finals re-schedule shift that no one, except for a few exclusives, knew about until the official announcement on broadcast; yep, Rito headquarters didn't even tell Riot Korea, that's how controversial it was. Plenty of options, but they decided to take the most controversial one and hide behind the most used excuse in the last two years, "because Covid."
RitoRigging never ceases to amaze.
Number 6: In chess that would just have been arbitrated, i.e. the arbiter would have decided the result based on the evidence given to him by players (i.e. the moves and variations they intended).
That's because chess is stupid as fuck and not even really a game. everything is known about it and there's not much innovation to be done. also chess isn't a spectator's game. no one wants to pay to go watch a tournament and then just have some jackass be like "yeah i decided that CLG won that match so they get to move on in the tournament"
I swear that’s the guy from Amazing Top 10
It is
By me the absolute worst of them all is the fifth one just imagine you are playing a turnament and you are 99% sure you will win BUT THEN the 1% kicks in you get disconected from almost won match not only once but twice and you even lose because of it damn I would crush monitor and would never turn the game on again. The last is realy funny but this one it is killing me
the sonicfox incident is obvious af. that’s why any actual sports league have rules and punishment for shenanigans like that.
Azubu: hey look, a giant screen that shows where everyone is.
Riot: wait, no!
Im glad i can see danny again miss when he use to do the most amazing top 10 videos
In Smite a new god came out called "The Morrigan" and her ULT let you be any other god in the game and use their abilities and ULT for a short period of time. During the earlier release time Hi-Rez couldn't polish out the bugs of the ULT and during a LAN tournament Morrigan bugged out and couldn't use any abilities during an entire match, could only auto attack. She was subsequently shadow banned for the rest of the LAN
Last two were the defiantly the best. The hug at the end of smash 4 tournament shows the hearts of the community
I remember when I used to watch most amazing top ten. I don’t miss the channel but I do miss the personalities like Danny Burke and Rebecca Felgate. I’m glad to see Danny here recently.
As someone who had to compete against Lima and Abadango’s Bayonetta in Smash 4.. it makes ya wanna pick up smoking.
I remember chiken like it was yesterday man, you could not start a single comp game. Pretty sure thats why they introduced no lobby rejoins after three kicks and not being able to join a lobby that is searching.
What about in OSRS’s first tournament. It was basically a battle royale, but the fog instakilled u. And the final area was blocked off by a gate that only 1 person at a time could enter, this causes hundreds of players to instadie
that is not 100% true, there was 2 other way inside, by it was still sorta guarded, glory can teleport you inside and there is a shortcut in the backroom :), what was rumored problem that seems quite likely was a now former jmod(jed) leaked the location to his clan as they where all there. which was the main issue. Not the one tile entrance
2012 when NA was still able to make it to the grand final xD
Damn, it looks so impossible now, that's sad and funny at the same time xD
KEEP EM COMIN SCOREESPORTS
I would like to note that Smash 4 had a controversy that would slide right into the middle of the list: at one point during a major tournament, someone set the gravity to 0.9 and both messed with combos and led to earlier kills.
Yeah right I remember reading something on that
I remember this dude from most amazing top 10! Good god times have changed.
I remember abusing the crouch bug in comps those were the funniest reactions I ever got from enemies
I’ve never been early enough to a video where no one has possibly finished it yet start to finish, I feel honored
You can always 2x the video haha
that mandatory "damn just 3 minutes ago" comment xD
Danny Burke in the E-sports scene !! Very nice
For #3, the side switch controversy, what happens if the other player doesn’t want to switch, and refuses?
I'd assume that they juat dont switch then
Someone give that friendly chiken a medal
That Turtle disconnect was so funny when it was live
Danny? Haven’t seen u since most amazing top 10!
I'm more surprised that side-switching isn't baked into tournaments. Some people just play better from certain sides, and you should have to switch every round.
The Bayo thing should have resulted in a disqualification for both players and #3 would be granted the win. Why have rules against match stalling if you don’t enforce it?
Glad to see Danny Burke
Danny fn Burke from the scary top 5 lists is BACK baby
We all know that those two players then became "smash bros"
Well ones a butt bros
If this was a sport channel: you 8-2 see it
@Pepper_ Slay3r yes
Loved that King Krule shirt
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Danny doing it so well i am so use when i watch mostamazingtop10 to hear that voice
Valkyrae “former” 100T streamer? Do you know more than we do?
@dumpster joe shut it kiddo :)
tbh if you were going to include Fortnite, i would have added the freaking sword that was added the day of a major tournament LMAOOO
Yeah fr that was horrible
Danny Burke? Havent see you in a long time mate. I loved your scary story telling, didnt expect u to see here XD
But nice seein you again man.
Happy to See some news faces, i really like this guy aswell
Ahh the fountain hook. I remember watching that live and losing my shit when I was watching it because Navi was (and still is) my favorite Dota 2 team. I know it's controversial but I feel like it was ok. Like they said it took skill to pull off. Not to mention if you wanted to completely remove it all you had to do was ban 1 of 2 champs. Pudge has always been niche but Chen is a solid support so taking him out of the equation is always a good choice.
Still love to see how salty LODA was over it. Like even the team that lost to it admitted they fucked around too much and weren't playing careful or patient. You just know he's mad because he didn't think to do it first. Just one of many things I point to as to why I hate Alliance.
ngl the bayonetta game was wholesome af
The Bayonetta bros was wholesome. Good sportsmanship.
I was surprised the first thunder smash tournament wasn't on here
This is just a random montage of things you found memorable, has nothing to do with the title.
Wowie, 50 seconds ago!
That fountain hook is some super hilarious shit.
The worst part about the Smash 4 incident is that Smash has had such a long and tough journey in gaining respect and prominence. Nintendo tried stopping it from being at Evo and being played in tournaments. If Smash Ultimate wasn't around the corner that Smash 4 final could've done more damage.
That's my forehead at 7:46 leggo! Part of that "absolute disaster of a series"
100 percent on the side of the 2 smash players at number 1. The crowd were constanstly booing and taunting them all tourny and they worked together to piss em off at the end. Rightfully so imo.
hey someone new in the videos, welcome love the voice
Sick video!
Yeah sonicfox did that to throw off his opponent. He does that slot in smaller and main circuits.
When he was in smashcon a few years back he pulled the same move when he losing 0-2
Nice King Krule shirt, love the album
WAIT I DIDNT KNOW DANNY IS A HOST FOR THESCORE, DAMNNNN WHAT AN UPGRADE!, I GENUINELY MISS YOU DANNY!
The smash 4 bit was genuinely adorable trolling tho and I love every bit about it
The GenG - DRX LCK fuck up was a 4 hour pause. Not sure how they missed that one on this list. even worse, it cooled down GenG who was running DRX over before the discord problems
DANNY I was not expecting to see him here, glad he’s well
Lovin that man alive shirt. Big Up.
I can´t believe the Olofboost was not mentioned. It fit the description of a controversy very well