HH Catamarans visit 3 for our HH52 : Stray current / progress / finishes / new style carbon tender

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  • @jamesbridges1107
    @jamesbridges1107 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Looks like good Chinese craftsmanship. Hope you have better luck than the Wynns. Check every metal piece, check the batteries, solar, EVERYTHING!!

  • @robertpendzick9250
    @robertpendzick9250 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Your boat is stunning in silver. I do not want to knock HH because it appears that they will or have corrected issues with the Wynn's boat. Yes, warranty repairs and fixes are fine, because the often the root of the problem is not the boat or the construction but faulty supplies and attention to details of bringing it all together. Seems to be a common in both Boat and RV construction. Hope it sails as nice as it looks!

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agree the boat is going to look stunning. Warranty issues are definitely a concern. They’re unfortunately an issue for all boat builders, fingers crossed we don’t have any major issues.

  • @fairwinds9630
    @fairwinds9630 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Mate your boat looks awesome, enjoy it, there is a lot of negativity, it will blow over., hope to see you on the water

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It very happy with how it’s looking. Can’t wait to be out cruising again!
      Beers in the cockpit with other cruisers is something I’m most looking forward to.

  • @jackdbur
    @jackdbur หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The new HH boats are just beautiful.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks!
      I really love the lines of the 52.

  • @conradlogan5201
    @conradlogan5201 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very impressive and beautiful! Congratulations

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. Can’t wait to be sailing!

  • @wiredgorilla
    @wiredgorilla หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great color combo! :)

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the silver and black together will look awesome. Happy with how it's looking.

  • @donjobi9400
    @donjobi9400 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    hh52 the best choice i think

  • @MJLWJS
    @MJLWJS 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the colour!! A boat is a personal choice that reflects who you are and what you are chasing 👍
    I am keen to understand more about the stray current solution/alarm. I am trying to understand a setup that can integrate into the czone for awareness vice protection purposes

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My understanding of the stray current solution is wiring the boat differently - specifically the hybrid drive cooling pumps.
      The alarm we discussed was measuring current at the large hull anode and it was linked into the C Zone. As I understand it, if the anode is getting eaten faster than it should an alert activates.
      All comments come with the disclaimer that I’m the customer asking questions in a field I’m not an expert and I’m not the boat builder.
      Hope that helps.

  • @malgraham351
    @malgraham351 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stunning 😍

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! 😊

    • @malgraham351
      @malgraham351 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @pageadventures she coming to Sydney?

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@malgraham351 I don’t think we’ll sail to Australia for a long time, probably sail around the world first….. too many other fun places to cruise, plus if we come to Australia we need to pay the GST 😉

  • @gonesilent2814
    @gonesilent2814 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cant wait to see that wrap off and the full color

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m 100% with you on that!!!

  • @strongarm_aus5486
    @strongarm_aus5486 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fantastic

  • @kirkb3473
    @kirkb3473 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Looks absolutely amazing, I can imagine you guys are super excited! Have they resolved the issues with only being able to motor at 5kts, and melting solar panels yet? I would highly recommend hiring a 3rd party surveyor to fly in and inspect the boat before the handover will be money well spent (on any new boat, let alone one so complex and unproven).

    • @philipmackin1025
      @philipmackin1025 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All the problems have been solved. In respect to the solar panels, a new type fixed the sticky....

    • @TheSailingFamily
      @TheSailingFamily หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @kirkb3473 / Kirk, we all know you are a Balance owner. Stop trolling HH video content and asking negative questions. We don't do that to Balance or to Balance owner content, so please be respectful and show some class. I'm unimpressed. Thanks. ~Seth

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve been to the factory 3 times and I’ve been pretty involved. I’m definitely concerned about both items you mentioned. Fingers crossed the new solar does all that it should. Time will tell on that. Time spend on warranty issues is a concern for sure. I was just getting some tips from people we know who recently received their Balance and it was out of action for more than 4 months with warranty issues. I’m hoping we don’t have the same issues 🤞

    • @kirkb3473
      @kirkb3473 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSailingFamily Hi Seth, so it when I asked these exact technical questions to you when we were considering an HH ourselves, I communicated to you my concerns of panel durability and their ability to actually produce the power being discussed. You stated my doubts were totally unfounded. So far, these technical issues have confirmed my concerns. Now absolutely HH (and every boat builder) has the right and opportunity to make things right, which I applaud HH for doing. I was simply asking if there is a proven solution yet because I'm genuinely interested. Flat flexible panels directly mounted to the coachroof is a much more elegant, lighter, less windage, and less expensive solution if it indeed performs as advertised.
      On the motoring, It is just my opinion, but I just consider only being able to motor a cat of this size and windage at 5kts under normal conditions a safety concern in certain situations. Being in 40kts blown onto a lee shore could be a problem you don't have enough umph to get yourself out of trouble, or in 4kts of current coming through the pass of an atoll. I was just asking what the solution is from another buyer who's sharing their experience online in a public manner. It's not a negative question or trolling, it's one catamaran owner chatting to another one. You could have joined the conversation with what the solution is instead of trying to insult me, that is what leaders do.
      If you consider recommending a 3rd party independent surveyor to inspect an HH boat trolling, or negative, then to me that's is unimpressive. I don't care who your are having build your boat, Balance, Outremer, Gunboat, Kinetic, Cure, Lagoon, Leopard, Privilege, HH...you as a manufacturer should welcome that with open arms, mine did. A new boat just means Not Everything Works, and most buyers understand this, there are going to be problems and most are not in direct control by the builder. I cannot think of one owner of a new build boat who would not recommend this to someone as money well spent. To any buyers out there, if your builder says no or recommends against this, that should give you pause.
      Boat building and choosing a life living on them is hard enough...the people crazy enough to be involved in such endeavors should stick together and no be dismissive or derogatory, regardless if its the potential owner, current owner, broker, yard building it, or executive hired to sell them.
      Thanks!
      Kirk

    • @TheSailingFamily
      @TheSailingFamily หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kirkb3473 There is no perfect boat. Every decision has its trade offs. Solar, propellers, engines, etc. I could ask a litany of "questions" about Balance that start with "Have they resolved the issues with...", but I try to be respectful in my youtube comments. The world has enough negativity in it already.

  • @mikeferguson2828
    @mikeferguson2828 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lovely boat. Yup the Wynns have had some teething problem but that comes with new territory issues. Still a lovely boat ❤

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikeferguson2828 yep, that’s my expectation too.

  • @ultraveridical
    @ultraveridical หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sleep right above the engine. I now understand what saildrives are for.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m hoping we’ll sail more than motor, plus I’m also thinking you could run one engine (the side you’re not sleeping in). I personally like the idea of no sail drives. Ask me in 5 years what I really think though 😉

  • @markthomasson5077
    @markthomasson5077 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice cat. Thanks. (Perhaps not my thing, looks a bit flashy for me, even if I do win the lottery)
    With the performance version I would worry about those underwater appendages.
    Firstly, you can’t beach the boat…intentionally or not.
    Those rudders look great, but a lot bigger than most, sure that will help with control in sketchy situations…but very vulnerable to a collision. I would want a lifting rudder.
    Likewise the prop shaft. I would have gone for a folding prop, feathering props can still catch ropes, and I do wonder if the rope cutter will work if you catch a rope when sailing, ie the prop is stationary.
    If I was looking at hybrid drive, it would be electric motors and generator. You could even have pod motors that lift / tilt out of the water. Lifted you may be able to avoid all electric earthing contact with the sea. And of course be able to beach and clear ropes.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markthomasson5077 all valid points you make, that’s one of the things I love about cruising. Everyone sails their own path.

  • @HopeOfJoe
    @HopeOfJoe หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Agree. This boat looks fantastic; however, HH is on our back burner as we continue to look for our next yacht as The Wynns’ new boat is fraught with issues and listening to the HH “response” video, it seems they will stand by their product…..eventually!! While the Wynns are not on board, HH has not made every effort to get the boat back to the factory at their expense and rapidly fix everything. Time will tell.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@HopeOfJoe what boat brands are you looking at that will pick up your boat and take it back to the factory if there are warranty issues?

    • @DavidCobb-uc4qr
      @DavidCobb-uc4qr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pageadventureswarranty issues?? The boat is totaled!!! Should be sunk or burned and money returned in full plus extra for wasted time!

  • @greenstaraz
    @greenstaraz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks Great, Would have to be free, I would not pay for anything with that must trouble. They have that boat a year and used it maybe half the time cause of troubles

  • @rumbepack
    @rumbepack หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    in the forward cockpit version
    can you sit on the left side chart table station or is only for standing?

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rumbepack the left side chart table area is just for standing.

    • @AdeboFunkyVoodoo
      @AdeboFunkyVoodoo หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're pretty custom, so if you wanted a seat solution, I'm sure it would be possible to have HH add one.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdeboFunkyVoodoo maybe it is. I’m not sure. I can just comment on the boat that I saw 👍

  • @simonhantler8062
    @simonhantler8062 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    as to your dinghy everyone uses the same wheels, I think they could be better as those ones sink in soft sand. better off having a balloon type wheel that rides on top of sand. it would be full of air, like a wheel barrow type wheel sort of.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      We’ve done so much work on this topic!!!!! I have a range of different manufacturers wheels, plus we’ve built a few different versions ourselves too. In general, inflatable wheels work better and diameter over 265mm is better. Balloon style like you mention would be better in really soft sand, but are too hard to neatly stow. We think a 265mm inflatable is the best compromise, then trying to make it disappear into the transom is the next trick.

    • @simonhantler8062
      @simonhantler8062 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re onto it.
      I mentioned this and the too tight grab handle ropes in the OC tender at the boat show in auckland but fell on deaf ears.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simonhantler8062 our lifting handles are totally different. Plenty of space around the carbon handles (we modified that too 😉)

  • @marklong8608
    @marklong8608 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where can we get more info on the tender. Looking for someone that handles chop better than all the other almost flat bottom tenders.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marklong8608 send me an email to discovery55yachts@gmail.com, happy to chat further 👍

  • @greglight3745
    @greglight3745 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Speaking of stray current what’s with the hair mate ?😊

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Think they need alarm to warn me that my hair is standing on end 😂

  • @dhwjohnston7212
    @dhwjohnston7212 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gorgeous boat but why would you take the pretty obvious risk?

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean the risk of going sailing?

  • @odysseyepc2trips785
    @odysseyepc2trips785 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Gone with the Wynns have lots of trouble to this HH brand hope they learn from that.

    • @karlgiel8891
      @karlgiel8891 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Buddy, go check up HH respond. I will biy a HH ANY time.

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      HH have learned a lot about the stray current issues, the fridge overheating (more ventilation now) and the battery wiring set-up. I’m comfortable those issues have been solved for future boats.

    • @AdeboFunkyVoodoo
      @AdeboFunkyVoodoo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No they don't have "lots of trouble" they have fairly normal levels of new boat issues. Especially for an entirely new system. There is one major issue.
      All of these issues are being dealt with under warranty. As they should be with additional provision being made for the major issue.
      They are having zero issues with the brand.

    • @malgraham351
      @malgraham351 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Troll

    • @77space-vt8wi
      @77space-vt8wi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Wynns knew a lot about cats when they took delivery their no dagger board HH44 hull #3 and so did their viewers. In addition to their previous cat where they had a huge learning curve, they also owned a large Bounder Motor Home for several years. There is "aways" something going south in a motor home. It's one thing or another so you carry a good set of tools, spare parts and manual's, It's a big advantage for the Wynns to have had that very relatable motorhome/boat systems experience. If you have watched their vids they don't get rattled they go into the Wynn analysis mode and start making phone calls to thire knowledgable support group. As we have seen Jason and Nikki are very good at diagnosing the hiccup/s and HH has proven to be available via cell phone 24/7. That stray current issue was an elusive stinker because as we have seen in Nikki's build vids how much effort HH puts into installing the duel hybrid electrical systems. Now that HH and the Wynns are schooled about how much air flow this particular refrigerator needs in its current location, the12v battary connectivity set up and the amount of engine components grounding. Bottom line. The Wynns have a Hugh following in the boating community and with there great videos everyone will be a little wiser about there vessel systems. I would happy to recommend buying a beautiful HH vessel to my friends.

  • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
    @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im always a little bothered when i see huge amounts of fairing work being applied to hulls ... same goes for all manufacturers.
    One other point positive locking catches on all draws and cupboards.. you dont want full draws and cupboards being bounced open and causing
    Chaos and injurys in heavy seas or accidents. 🧙🏼‍♂️🇬🇧
    Love the silver on carbon look .. how is the raw carbon weave finish protected longterm from the extreme UV ... ?

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lots of good points there.
      The draws all have a locking latch that just clicks in - like a tongue going into a slot with two ball bearings. I’m also concerned about this in really heavy weather. I would prefer to see a positive lock that you need to press to open or close. I’m pushing on this topic.
      Clear carbon finish - Paul Hakes tells me the finish on the HH66 with a clear carbon hull has lasted more than 6 years in the sun. I’m expecting every couple of haul outs will involve spraying more clear coat on all the clear carbon areas, but time will tell. I love the look even if it turns out to be less practical.

  • @EdwardTilley
    @EdwardTilley หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful boat. The two or three problems on my list with HH are:
    1. Solar Panel quality - per the Wynn's troubles with their panels - which they describe as "melting" in the heat. They mention HH are using another manufacturer, so I hope HH pre-testing process has improved.
    2. Sun in the Salon. Current swept-back windows might be fashionable (to some. I prefer the forward-tilting explorer-style windows). No visor means glare and heat in the working salon obviously.
    3. No front door - in the 44? Does the 52 have a front cockpit? Not sure, but I'd recommend a Nordhaven-style half door if yes.
    4. Ride Too low in the water; these are wet boats from stem to stern. HH Hulls (with generous above-the-water chines) need to be lifted much higher (2 feet) above the water - to avoid hull slap and blue and green water over the front on its travels. The argument that weight, stability, or performance mandates low ride heights, are arguments easily trumped by this design's constant maintenance as needed to clean salt off a wet boat.
    Leoppards seem a better design on points 2 and 4, and HH could/should do the same.
    Hope this helps ...

  • @gstoddard1325
    @gstoddard1325 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you say 52 01.....

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I say 52 01, I mean a 52 model and it’s boat number 1. Our boat is 5204 as it’s a HH52 and boat number 4. Did I answer what you were asking?

  • @bisa34
    @bisa34 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congratulations for this beautifull and sleek performance catamaran 💐
    How much rebate can we expect on order ? Thank you

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry I don’t understand your rebate comment.

    • @bisa34
      @bisa34 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @pageadventures Hi, let's say price of the cat is 2.5 mln $ ok 👌. How much is the percentage of discount on that bill. 👍

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@bisa34I’m a full paying customer! The videos are just a bit of fun for me, they’re not my business. I am incredibly sexy in a pair of board shorts though….. maybe I could be an Insta influencer? 🤣
      If you want to go in and negotiate a discount for me that would be great 😜
      These videos are just like all our videos sailing around the world in our Discovery 55, they’re on this channel.

  • @heeha10
    @heeha10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    be wary of the shoddy electrical installation work

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having completely re-wired an old boat myself in the past, this is something I look at. Everything I’ve seen looks top notch. I can only comment on what I’ve actually seen.

  • @tjs0067
    @tjs0067 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HH sadly are too heavy they refuse to let customers change anything.

  • @andrew6274
    @andrew6274 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    HH is just pile of bs

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@andrew6274 so I’ve posted about my personal boat which I’m very excited about, I’ve visited the factory 3 times during the build, I’ve built boats, raced boats and sailed more than 60,000 nautical miles and you comment with that? Thanks for the helpful input….
      The internet inspires some strange actions from people.

    • @AdeboFunkyVoodoo
      @AdeboFunkyVoodoo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So long as you ignore all of the very happy owners of HH boats and only focus on one.
      I remember when that Oyster had it's keel fall off which bankrupted the company. Funny how Oyster are still considered to be a Rolls Royce of blueawater cruisers.
      It's almost like with yachts, anything can and will happen.

    • @andrew6274
      @andrew6274 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AdeboFunkyVoodoo its not about "one case" it is HH way of design/produce/quality control/service

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    if its Chinese, its JUNK. dude

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ha ha. That’s funny. Move with the times.

    • @tjs0067
      @tjs0067 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HH are too heavy not bending at all with changes will never get on instead I went straight to Cure Marine such a better boat

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tjs0067I looked at Cure. They look nice. I didn’t think the finish was on the same level as HH, but time will tell on that. Good luck with your Cure, I look forward to seeing one when they’re finished.

    • @JustinmaguireIII
      @JustinmaguireIII หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great video - love the tender!

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustinmaguireIIIthanks Justin. Tender is going to be pretty special.

  • @2HYPR
    @2HYPR หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on your Temu Gunboat... hope it doesn't fall apart like The Wynns Curiosity has....

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You do know that HH Catamarans built the Gunboat 60's?
      Curiosity has stray current issues, which are being resolved and some of that I covered in this video.
      Enjoy your Gunboat while I enjoy Temu ; )

    • @2HYPR
      @2HYPR หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pageadventures I do know that... and really really badly lol - Gunboat used HH to make hulls... that fell apart .. then HH stole the designs.. then Gunboat lost the market and suddenly with a couple of laowai NZ monkeys in the mix and few TH-cam influencers HH are just the best thing!!!... No thanks - no temu gunboat - have fun tho - you getting the same fridge as Curiosity? lol

    • @pageadventures
      @pageadventures  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@2HYPR thanks for all the helpful comments.

    • @AdeboFunkyVoodoo
      @AdeboFunkyVoodoo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yet every HH owner I've met, loves their boat.
      Grow up.
      Oh and didn't those Kwaka H2s need a few recalls? For dodgy transmissions, camchain problems, inaccurate speedos... Imagine building your entire TH-cam personality (user name, content and all) around a garbage product, then trying to deride other people's choices. I guess you're salty and lashing out. Enjoy your H2 when it backs from yet another visit to the garage.

    • @TheSailingFamily
      @TheSailingFamily หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@2HYPR You do know that Gunboat left to build their own boats and promptly went bankrupt, right? Meanwhile HH keeps chugging along solvently. You're funny tho.