7900xtx has ROCm which can help it’s efficiency in “workstation” workflows. My only gripe with my 7900xtx is that it hogs power. Besides that, it’s a beastly card. Also amd driver suck sometimes.
@@bp8__163You just explained why I won't buy AMD again. The rx580 oc was supposed to be a great card, just not when I experienced it. I spent most of my time rolling back drivers than playing games because my games constantly crashed. Look up just cause and AMD oc cards. The issue never got fixed to this day. Since going Nvidia, I haven't had to roll back a single driver. AMD fanboys say drivers aren't an issue these days but you aren't the first person I seen talking about their modern drivers. Me personally, I won't put myself through that again even if the chance of it happening is slim. I'd rather pay more money for better support so I have less to no trouble shooting to deal with.
@@izzio6680 why? Are you Dyslexic? Seems to me that someone read it because someone answered. They also answered with words I can understand. The way you type words out, tells me you probably are dyslexic
@@olibobs1411 vram is certainly important, and it will only increase in importance over time, the more vram a card has the longer it will last and be able to maximize its performance.
@@caribbaviator7058yes, nvidia cards are more efficient But they also consume way more electricity Hence why if you can afford a higher electricity bill, nvidia would be the way to go, and if you want it as low as possible, go for amd
Have u done editing in premier pro or ae bu any chance I have a deal for 6700 xt and i really wanna get it because of performance for games But i also do make a living with editing
Bad pricing makes a card bad. If it can't compete in price/performance, then it literally failed the one thing it was supposed to do. Sure, there's also better RT performance and DLSS, but in case of dlss instead of paying a premium to hide the lack of performance from your card, maybe just buy a faster one for the same price.
For that reason alone it makes Nvidia and their cards pointless. They make 5× the profit on many of their cards and continue to keep their prices higher than what they are worth, especially when it comes to price to performance. Most people who are gaming etc want to maximise their pc performance whilst keeping the performance of their components in line with the cost. Whilst the 4090 is currently very good with the performance the price is absolutely absurd, especially when some cost in excess of $2000. Personally I prefer AMD for their mostly excellent selection of good price to performance cards but intel looks to be a promising option later down the line.
@@anonymousx6651 still though, I'm going for nvidia because of nvenc, record software and honestly better drivers. Like who in the world would throw a driver with a feature that makes you banned? (Antilag cs2 false vac bans drama)
@@user-wb4zj8rj4s except that issue is not only tied to AMD but also with Valve who should've integrated a dll file modification whitelist for anti-lag+, which is the exact reason why users who use the feature get banned
I have a ASrock 7900 xtx and in all reality the EVGA 3080ti I had before it performed better! So a 4 year old card I purchased refurbished off Amazon 2.5 years ago created a better over all experience then a top of the line 7900 xtx AMD card. Now I'm using my PC for simulation racing which most people don't do! Most people just play your average FPS or other role play games that don't require the CPU and GPU to make both physics and graphics adjustments by the millions per split second. So under normal game play conditions maybe the 7900 xtx works well but under heavy load conditions the 3080ti still out performed it! Not only that but the videos I made the 3080ti looked way better. I shouldn't have to overclock a 7900 xtx for it to perform ALMOST as good as the Nvidia 3080ti. In all reality, I'd say buying a used 3080ti or 3090 is still a way better option over the AMD cards. Buying a 40 Series card probably destroys the AMD cards when it comes to high stress gameplay. In all reality frame rates are about the same too. It's completely and totally possible the sim I play just suits Nvidia drivers better but I honestly expected the 7900 xtx to be better. It's a massive struggle to get the title to look good and I constantly get frame jumps/Skips with the AMD card while the Nvidia was as smooth as a babys bottom lol
I wish AMD would have better support for literally anything other than gaming because 90% of creative software uses some sort of function that either only works with Nvidia cards, or works far better with Nvidia. At least Intel seems to be showing some interest in markets other than gaming so hopefully 2 or 3 generations down the line they'll be the Nvidia competitor that AMD refuses to be.
It's not even about energy prices. It's about heat and noise aswell. When you live in a hot country and/or build a small sff PC, then you're gonna buy the card that gives you the most fps per watt, and that's most likely an Nvidia card.
Lmfao these comments are braindead, Nvidia cards currently have the worst power draw. Since the 6000 series, AMD cards universally all pull much less power than their competitors while retaining better or relatively the same performance.
@@dmitrybayer Bro what are you on right now?!?! "FPS per watt" saying noise is effected by power consumption, not even mentioning RPM of your fans, like what
@@Alpine_flo92002 it's weird they changed positions. AMD's claim to fame used to be the best performance for the power consumption which is why crypto miners used to buy out every AMD card they could get their hands on (circa 2017 or so).
@@Thymed AMD has potential but it's actually AMD not supporting their own platform. In contrast, nvidia makes it easier to work with AI and ML with their platform
@@Thymed That's possible but the funny thing is AMD probably wouldn't even support CUDA even if they could. For AMD, it just isn't that feasible business-wise
Nvidia doesn't realize that AMD is no longer a company to ignore as far as their performance goes, Intel learned that immediately, but when Nvidia sees the amounts of 7600 XTs sold, that's going to be one hell of a wake up call
@@neutralprofit7699 and the 3090 still wipes that card overall and with RT on in addition the 3090 is a budget Titan which typically runs you almost over 23-2500 $. At the end of the day the 3090 on top of it's software suite, efficiency, and and raw power would still be the better but. Also it seems you forgot the 30 series which already an affordable line of what the GPUs should cost.
@@hardcodedreborn9650 How high are u?? Dlss looks better then native resolution in most games and it looks better then fsr BCZ it uses physical real tensor cores. Not saying amd is bad i respect AMD alot but in terms of quality, DLSS is not comparable to FSR
Actually, a lot of software programs like 3DS Max with Vray only work at desired levels with Nvidia. Sure you can run those with other GPU brands but they will not preform as well considering the write their programs to utilize Nvidia Cuda Cores for example.
Sure, there are things that absolutely need Nvidia GPUs, but gaming? Nah, dude, go with AMD, Nvidia's gaming cards are ridiculosly overpriced, even if you have money to burn.
I'm surprised how many people say they stream, not trying to be offensive (this is offensive) but they just stream once a month usually and don't even try much
@@dibyaudhdas1978Yeah, but Nvidia generally still is much better in 3D modeling, though if you go with AMD you're still not going to be missing out on TOO much
I got a sapphire 7900 xtx nitro+ for 970$ two weeks ago for blackfriday sale in romania and it’s the most amazing experience I ever had way better than nvidia in regards to the simplicty of the control software and the performance is wonderful as I can finally use my Xeneon Flex to it’s full potential
Thank you for the AMD recommendation, I am definitely looking for power and cost savings. Electricity is pretty expensive here and I want to do my part for conservation. Also, I am ready to dip my toes into RT performance and do not mind AI frame creations when necessary as I play Jedi and Cyberpunk but also want Counter Strike and other First Person Shooters to run above 120 FPS. So glad you recommended AMD for the value. =-P
The best card I ever bought was my EVGA Geforce GTX 1060 6GB. So far it has played every game I have ever tried playing. When Fallout 4 came out I had to buy a new card and I bought a card that would fit the low end of the requirements which was an Nvidia Geforce 750ti 2 GB. I'm not sure why I bought the 1060. I can't remember but I found it on eBay as a refurbished that was like 6 or 7 years ago. I just took that card out and gave it a deep clean and new paste. Having 32 GB of 1600mgz of RAM has likely helped it but I'm fairly sure that there are some games coming down the pipeline to which I may have to upgrade my entire system or just not play those games. I own something like 500 games that play on this system thanks to Epic Games. I have no shortage of games to try and play so I'm not too worried about upgrading. This means I can sit and wait for everyone to upgrade and sell or refurbish their used systems. Hopefully, I will be able to find some decent used gear that I can buy 1 part every couple of months until I can build a new rig but this system is decent for me right now. It's an Asus MB with an Intel I7 4770k 32GB of RAM and a 6GB 1060. I'm a retired PC tech. I passed at the top of my class and I apprenticed with a computer tech after I finished my course. Computers were much easier to repair back then compared to now but most people don't actually repair computers all they do is clean and swap parts around and then call themselves a computer tech. I have this MB that worked before it was shipped I have tried almost everything to fix it. I just spent 2 hours micro-scoping the board looking for signs of damage with no luck. I did find a few bent CPU pins so I fixed them but doubt that will fix it. There is a lot of redundancy in those pins so it doesn't matter if 1 or 2 are out of order. I will now order a diagnostics card because I seem to have lost mine I have one for a laptop but it won't work on a desktop. No one really fixes a motherboard issue they just buy a new one or replace it if a ram stick goes we don't fix it we buy a new one If a video card goes you buy a new one. There are people that are fixing their GPUs now and that's good to see. Usually, though you don't repair a part you simply replace it. How can you call your self a tech if all you do is replace parts?
It comes down to cost per hour. You can't justify spending an entire day, or more, to find a broken trace on a board when you are trying to run a business. If he can throw a new piece of hardware at it and get 5 jobs done in a day that's what pays the bills. Spending all that same time on one job is not an effective use of his time as a business. If it's some super rare or ungodly expensive piece of hardware then maybe, but the customer needs to charged accordingly. Most people want the fix done as quickly and cheaply as possible. On your own personal hardware that's a different story you can burn all the time you want on it.
If they are priced fairly and you aren't planing to keep them for long nvidia maybe better for you, but amd is more future proof because of 1st : fine wine drivers, 2st : custom drivers allowing latest drivers in old legacy graphics cards(r9 series and older)
@Fuwiejdbxjdsksk364 That is the most biased statement I've seen in a while, and all your comments on your account are literally praising Nvidia for literally doing the bare minimum. They have stopped caring about the community and moved on to caring about money. Meanwhile, AMD is listening and making smart moves like sticking to mid range GPU's and doing their best to make the PC community easier and cheaper to get into
After Weeks of research i ended up deciding to get a 6700XT exactly because is better performance for less money, and i don't regret it a bit, I'm having a blast with the GPU, im even playing at 4k on stable framerates
I love my XTX and, from what I've heard, FSR3 is going to be a game changer. Definitely looking forward to it. There's also been rumors that they're gonna go all out for the 8900XTX and topple the 5090 and I'll be doing a full upgrade if that happens.
There is also a rumor about focusing on the mid range for the next gen. Which is even better than buying a 5090 that I nor more than 90% of gamers cannot even afford...
For me the 4080 was the best Option. Needed a good gpu for gaming but the more important things were that my ais are running as fast as possible. RVCV2, about 2s for a 3 min sample SD1.5, about 10s for 512x512 and 30 steps Can use a chunk size of 128 for my live RVCV2 AI (about 300ms delay)
@thebottles3153 because it's about 5 percent faster than a 3070, I'm not sure what you mean abt DLSS 3 being forced, only the 40 series can do it, and its also better than FSR 3
we found the one who bought the 4060 ti lmao edit: th-cam.com/video/818Ii1_F6fk/w-d-xo.html what do you mean 5% faster than 3070 lmao the 4060 and 4060 ti are shit
Intel is surprisingly very good for first gen card. But i would have waited for more launches to see an optimised top of the line card. But the drivers keep on making the card better.
AMD fanboys spend their whole day saying that AMD is better and brush off the fact that people use their pc for work and creativity. In Reddit threads, TH-cam comments, etc. Okay we get it, you don’t have money
For me, power savings rack up over time and it’s something I strongly consider too. Nvidia has nailed efficiency this last gen and it also prevents things like coil whine from occurring as much due to the lower power draw
Lots of streaming is switching to A V1 encoding which both sides have and AMD has FSR which, depending on your use case will be more than enough if the game supports it. Overall the main thing to focus on is rasterization performance. Raytracing looks fine IMO but the performance hit is just too big of a hit
yes but like warhammer40k darktide or remnant 2 it is nearly unplayable without using any kind of upscale technology. Therefore only focusing on rasterization on future games won't work because of incompetent devs.
Stick to ray tracing not Dlss. The more nvidia market that thing the more they will squeeze people out dry since "Why not just Dlss to increase frames..." instead of actually focusing more on raw power than articial scaling , especiallly with frame generation
3090 ti used rn localy to me are 650 $$$ that beats the 4070ti by a tiny bit, had better memory bus and more vram then the 4070ti also, close to a 4080 in performance. Also it's cheaper.
Would never get an AMD gpu. NVIDIA has way too many features which are better for streaming as well as GeForce experience. AMD is prone to crashes and poor drivers
AMD has actually improved a lot on their drivers and currently both around the same. Nvidia even recently had this problem where 3080 ti got bricked in Diablo IV beta.
You never used an AMD GPU so you don't know just how optimized and great the drivers have become. Especially the newer stuff. Just looking at Adrenaline software will make you hate the Nvidia control panel from 69 BC
I am buying my first pc, I have saved over 4K aside just so I can spend it on the pc and I am looking at the RTX 4080 paired with intel i9 13900k. Are they a good pair?
The issue I have with AMD video cards is that for VR they are at best decent and at worst unsupported. Wish they'd put more effort into that sector, otherwise I can only get nVidia GPUs despite not wanting to support their price gouging
If you are a Fortnite player i prefer NVIDIA because AMD haves some issues with Fortnite like performance mode not working right and some other stuff. But else i prefer AMD
You can get get 13600k with a 4070, 32gb ram, aio water cooler 32gb ddr5, 750 watt power supply, case and 1tb m.2 it will cost you around 1500 to 1550 with a mid range mother bored
as someone who cares very much about 4k gaming(if I were to go out all out and actually upgrade to a new pc) and seeing that nvidia purposely put too little vram on their 4000 series cards, to then release supers with enough vram later.... screw them. xD
I have an unlimited budget for my current build; I had $9,000 set aside for a Mac Pro, and the new Mac Pro has made me sad. It’s on me to build my own machine. So, my requirements were: 1. Most importantly, Thunderbolt 4 with dGPU pass through. I power: either 2x 5K displays or 1 6K display, a 16 channel mixer, 3 mirrorless camera, a lighting rig, various accessories off of ONE cable. 2. Mini ITX. 3. Either a 10GB Ethernet or a second TB4 port for Ethernet Mini ITX forced a z690i board: there is only one mini board that has TB4 dGPU pass through. From there, I just had to pick components. I analyzed where my workloads were bound: they are largely GPU bound workloads. That meant that a 13900K was going to be wasted - which is actually great, because I need to mitigate heat; I can’t fit a full size CPU cooler. I grabbed a 13600K. Then, I analyzed linux support for both Nvidia and AMD. I chose AMD, and then I just picked their top of line card that I could fit into my case: Pulse 7900 XTX. Ram was easy: 2 6800 speed DDR5 sticks at 48GB each. And for the case, it’s a custom case that I can’t disclose the manufacturer of, or Apple will shut them down - but it’s a miniature replica of a cheese grater Mac Pro. Just barely large enough to fit these components and an SFX PSU. The plus side: maybe I’ll install windows on one of my 3 M.2 drives (4TB) and load up Steam. I haven’t used windows since Vista, so it’ll be interesting to say the least.
I dont love the Team Green prices, but I honestly really like my new 4070. I've never had an AMD gpu but I do love their CPU's so they might be my next gpu
for blender 3d rendering what gpu would be great that is budget friendly/ mid range? opinions needed. Please start a war under this comment section lmao
Yeah ngl my 13600kf + XFX 7900XTX were worth it. Brutal performance for so much less than getting a 4090 or a less powerful 4080. (I don't use RT and I don't do streaming/content creating so benefits of Nvidia don't matter to me)
Want ONLY GAMING go for AMD, everything else like Content Creation, 3D work, AI Computing, etc it's all Nvidia. Not to mention even in Gaming Nvidia beats AMD but still AMD will suffice most people's needs.
I’ve had a rx 5600 xt only thing I got to complain about is for like a year the graphics drivers were straight ass always crashing even when just on the desktop but they fixed it and haven’t had a single issue
Used cards are tough to choose from, 3070's are cheaper than even used 6700 xt's, and perform better in 1440p which is my monitor resolution, but 6700xt's got more vram, so not sure which to go with, coming from a 1070 ti and 2600x
4070 runs at 58 max degrees even during highest of loads my games put on it at 40% fan. Thats efficiensy i appreciate during hot summers in my small apartment. It idles at 28
Content Creation -> Nvidia, Intel
Gaming -> AMD
Wallet's overflowed by money -> Nvidia
@@adoptedorange52951me too
7900xtx has ROCm which can help it’s efficiency in “workstation” workflows. My only gripe with my 7900xtx is that it hogs power. Besides that, it’s a beastly card. Also amd driver suck sometimes.
@@bp8__163You just explained why I won't buy AMD again. The rx580 oc was supposed to be a great card, just not when I experienced it. I spent most of my time rolling back drivers than playing games because my games constantly crashed. Look up just cause and AMD oc cards. The issue never got fixed to this day. Since going Nvidia, I haven't had to roll back a single driver. AMD fanboys say drivers aren't an issue these days but you aren't the first person I seen talking about their modern drivers. Me personally, I won't put myself through that again even if the chance of it happening is slim. I'd rather pay more money for better support so I have less to no trouble shooting to deal with.
@@AtteroDominatusaint no one readding allat💀
@@izzio6680 why? Are you Dyslexic? Seems to me that someone read it because someone answered. They also answered with words I can understand. The way you type words out, tells me you probably are dyslexic
Nvidia went from making GPUs for gamers to making GPUs for Nvidia fans
That’s the best statement i’ve heard in awhile, preach🗣️💯
Sounds like Apple
@@zangetsukurosaki4027fr
Apple isn't even the best like nvidia
They are the Lego of GPUs
There’s also CUDA, but AMD is cutting into that benefit with ROCm, especially with the better VRAM/price relationship.
Vram isnt that important 8gn is more than enough
@@olibobs1411 Enough till your game starts stuttering when that 8GB is fully used and squeezed through the 128 bit 4060ti. Nvidia is a joke now.
@@olibobs1411 vram is certainly important, and it will only increase in importance over time, the more vram a card has the longer it will last and be able to maximize its performance.
@@olibobs1411😂😂😂😂 8GB is the new minimum. The Games to come will force you to play 720p.
@@emcoisafan2073 not really an issue, unless u're that guy who never get used to 720p. Though I do agree that 8gb is surely lacking.
*Team Red* ▶️
Team Green ➡️
Just left team red, never going back. Dogshit drivers, dogshit software.
Team red too.
@@shibe32 look at 6500xt, then look at 3050
@@angeloamaral9141 the 3050 is priced terribly compared to something like the 6600xt. And even the 7600 is a monster for a good price.
People try not to bootlick companies that don't care about them challenge (impossible)
Low electricity prices: AMD wins in value
High electricity prices: Nvidia wins in value
Were you high typing this 😂 the 40 series are more efficient than the rx7000 cards
@@caribbaviator7058you just didnt get it
@@caribbaviator7058yes, nvidia cards are more efficient
But they also consume way more electricity
Hence why if you can afford a higher electricity bill, nvidia would be the way to go, and if you want it as low as possible, go for amd
@@TrippOnPower You need to have more income if you have problem with your electricity bill, peasant.
@@TrippOnPowerits the other way around
I switched to the AMD 7900xt and love it.
I bet! I would struggle to get the ok on that one from the missus 😅 but fantastic looking card
I went to xtx for my first build
@@arsenalfanrichialso had to convince the miss for a 850 euro 6950xt😂
The 7900 xt and xtx are the only amd cards I recommend. That 7900 xtx is the only thing I'd switch off team green for.
@@MrGermanletsplayerxD 850 euro 6950xt? bro i got mine new XFX 6950 XT for £577
My first ever AMD GPU arrives on Wednesday. Very excited. It's an RX 7900 XT.
Wow that's a really good first card
Nice!
So how was it?
@@ibzmav Love it, it's been fantastic. Games run super well. Upgrading to 1440p tomorrow.
Bro? 7900xt is 4k level. Unless you've a monitor with 1440p limitation@@DoomedMadhouse
I went AMD for the first time a couple weeks ago, got a 6700XT 12GB for 300 bucks and I have no regrets at all.
Have u done editing in premier pro or ae bu any chance
I have a deal for 6700 xt and i really wanna get it because of performance for games
But i also do make a living with editing
At the end of a day, nvidia still offers more features. There're no bad cards, just bad pricing
Bad pricing makes a card bad. If it can't compete in price/performance, then it literally failed the one thing it was supposed to do. Sure, there's also better RT performance and DLSS, but in case of dlss instead of paying a premium to hide the lack of performance from your card, maybe just buy a faster one for the same price.
For that reason alone it makes Nvidia and their cards pointless. They make 5× the profit on many of their cards and continue to keep their prices higher than what they are worth, especially when it comes to price to performance. Most people who are gaming etc want to maximise their pc performance whilst keeping the performance of their components in line with the cost. Whilst the 4090 is currently very good with the performance the price is absolutely absurd, especially when some cost in excess of $2000. Personally I prefer AMD for their mostly excellent selection of good price to performance cards but intel looks to be a promising option later down the line.
@@anonymousx6651 still though, I'm going for nvidia because of nvenc, record software and honestly better drivers. Like who in the world would throw a driver with a feature that makes you banned? (Antilag cs2 false vac bans drama)
@@user-wb4zj8rj4s except that issue is not only tied to AMD but also with Valve who should've integrated a dll file modification whitelist for anti-lag+, which is the exact reason why users who use the feature get banned
I have a ASrock 7900 xtx and in all reality the EVGA 3080ti I had before it performed better!
So a 4 year old card I purchased refurbished off Amazon 2.5 years ago created a better over all experience then a top of the line 7900 xtx AMD card.
Now I'm using my PC for simulation racing which most people don't do! Most people just play your average FPS or other role play games that don't require the CPU and GPU to make both physics and graphics adjustments by the millions per split second. So under normal game play conditions maybe the 7900 xtx works well but under heavy load conditions the 3080ti still out performed it! Not only that but the videos I made the 3080ti looked way better.
I shouldn't have to overclock a 7900 xtx for it to perform ALMOST as good as the Nvidia 3080ti.
In all reality, I'd say buying a used 3080ti or 3090 is still a way better option over the AMD cards. Buying a 40 Series card probably destroys the AMD cards when it comes to high stress gameplay.
In all reality frame rates are about the same too. It's completely and totally possible the sim I play just suits Nvidia drivers better but I honestly expected the 7900 xtx to be better.
It's a massive struggle to get the title to look good and I constantly get frame jumps/Skips with the AMD card while the Nvidia was as smooth as a babys bottom lol
I wish AMD would have better support for literally anything other than gaming because 90% of creative software uses some sort of function that either only works with Nvidia cards, or works far better with Nvidia. At least Intel seems to be showing some interest in markets other than gaming so hopefully 2 or 3 generations down the line they'll be the Nvidia competitor that AMD refuses to be.
For me the amd radeon rx6750xt 12gb is the best price/ performance gpu
Prefer the rx6700xt, little difference in performance for cheaper price.
I have it too and with a 5800x3d it crushes just about anything at 1440p which is all I need
Unless you play fortnite and you don't want anything going wrong look for 3060 TI
@zzoken6463 i got it on a super deal from my local store so it wasnt a difference in price
@@migueljenkins9068I mean who unironicly plays fortnite thats older than 16😂
Got a 4070 weeks back, can't be happier, mean while my friends amd had driver issues twice and he couldn't play for the weekend
If power consumption is a factor because of high energy prices you can't beat Nvidia it will be cheaper over the live of the card.
It's not even about energy prices. It's about heat and noise aswell. When you live in a hot country and/or build a small sff PC, then you're gonna buy the card that gives you the most fps per watt, and that's most likely an Nvidia card.
Lmfao these comments are braindead, Nvidia cards currently have the worst power draw. Since the 6000 series, AMD cards universally all pull much less power than their competitors while retaining better or relatively the same performance.
@@dmitrybayer Bro what are you on right now?!?!
"FPS per watt"
saying noise is effected by power consumption, not even mentioning RPM of your fans, like what
@@multigameswithryan9215fps per watt is pretty self explanatory. And noise can be affected by power consumption other than the fans
Just got my 6800xt today 😩
Congrats!! Sounds very exciting
Im jealous Brother. Just got 1440p 144hz monitor for my rx 6700xt ❤
Wdym jealous i have an rx 580 :(
@@sakusalonen6390what monitor did you get? I’m trying to figure out what’s the best 1440p monitor
@@foreverrockinout Samsung odyssey G5 1440p 144hz
AMD wins every day of the week for best value UNLESS raytracing is an important feature. NVIDIA's still winning the RT arms race they pioneered.
And dlss, and optimization, and stability
Nvidia also wins if you know about running cost on a system if electricity isnt cheap as hell
@@Alpine_flo92002 it's weird they changed positions. AMD's claim to fame used to be the best performance for the power consumption which is why crypto miners used to buy out every AMD card they could get their hands on (circa 2017 or so).
@@eliesbutz3317bro thinks amd isn’t optimized and isnt stable
@@ultramasterultra5724 nice strawman. That's not what I said
Sadly some of us love gaming, but also need CUDA cores.
Yes, 6500xt is a joke
It’s pretty annoying that nvidia controls CUDA cause I could’ve saved 200$ otherwise
@@Thymed AMD has potential but it's actually AMD not supporting their own platform. In contrast, nvidia makes it easier to work with AI and ML with their platform
@@remuechat i agree but correct me if I’m wrong but both cards could have used cuda or nvidia didn’t own it
@@Thymed That's possible but the funny thing is AMD probably wouldn't even support CUDA even if they could. For AMD, it just isn't that feasible business-wise
Nvidia doesn't realize that AMD is no longer a company to ignore as far as their performance goes, Intel learned that immediately, but when Nvidia sees the amounts of 7600 XTs sold, that's going to be one hell of a wake up call
What performance. Last time I checked Nvidia is still wiping the competition in regards of Ray tracing. And now we've hit path tracing.
@@blvckl0tcs750My rx 6800 xt perform alsmost as a 3090 and yet mine cost 480usd while the 3090 is over 1k
@@neutralprofit7699 and the 3090 still wipes that card overall and with RT on in addition the 3090 is a budget Titan which typically runs you almost over 23-2500 $. At the end of the day the 3090 on top of it's software suite, efficiency, and and raw power would still be the better but. Also it seems you forgot the 30 series which already an affordable line of what the GPUs should cost.
@@blvckl0tcs750 So you would consider buying a 3090 for 1k for 5% better performance in 1440p ?
@@neutralprofit7699 I want to believe you but I can't. The 3090 literally trumps the 6800xt in every game even without RT
Nvidia has DLSS its a no brainer
Dlss ruins image quality and useful only on old cards but nGreedia limits dlss and you can't use it on old cards like 1050ti
@@hardcodedreborn9650 How high are u?? Dlss looks better then native resolution in most games and it looks better then fsr BCZ it uses physical real tensor cores. Not saying amd is bad i respect AMD alot but in terms of quality, DLSS is not comparable to FSR
Just sucks mostly single player titles have it.
fsr 3 exists
Since I also use linux for work, I think i would go for AMD in my end desktop build, its a bit of a mess with my RTX 2060 right nos
Actually, a lot of software programs like 3DS Max with Vray only work at desired levels with Nvidia. Sure you can run those with other GPU brands but they will not preform as well considering the write their programs to utilize Nvidia Cuda Cores for example.
“There are benefits to using Nvidia.”
So don’t buy AMD if you need to do that
Well If market trends change they'll optimise these softwares for other GPU brands also.
Sure, there are things that absolutely need Nvidia GPUs, but gaming? Nah, dude, go with AMD, Nvidia's gaming cards are ridiculosly overpriced, even if you have money to burn.
@@GeekGod7512Rocm
Those features are prob worth the 50 bucks more tbh
Bruh it's funny how people keep saying "wahhhh streamingggg" but they don't even stream! Also actual streamers get a damn capture card anyways.
Or they just use streamlabs
new nvidia cars basically have a capture card built in with nvenc tho
I'm surprised how many people say they stream, not trying to be offensive (this is offensive) but they just stream once a month usually and don't even try much
@@GeneralS1mba yeahhh I'm not gonna rag on em but yeah why spend an additional 200$ for a feauture ur gon use for like once a month
@@Aka.Aka. exactly
I can only go with Nvidia in my case because I have to do a lot of 3D modeling and rendering With Maya and Blender.
If you are thinking it's because of Cuda,then fret not AMD has it it's alternative which is ROCm and it's finally available for WIndows now
@@dibyaudhdas1978 And Blender works quite well with AMD, bless open source
@@dibyaudhdas1978which one is better?
@@dibyaudhdas1978Yeah, but Nvidia generally still is much better in 3D modeling, though if you go with AMD you're still not going to be missing out on TOO much
I got a sapphire 7900 xtx nitro+ for 970$ two weeks ago for blackfriday sale in romania and it’s the most amazing experience I ever had way better than nvidia in regards to the simplicty of the control software and the performance is wonderful as I can finally use my Xeneon Flex to it’s full potential
Thank you for the AMD recommendation, I am definitely looking for power and cost savings. Electricity is pretty expensive here and I want to do my part for conservation.
Also, I am ready to dip my toes into RT performance and do not mind AI frame creations when necessary as I play Jedi and Cyberpunk but also want Counter Strike and other First Person Shooters to run above 120 FPS.
So glad you recommended AMD for the value.
=-P
I got a 4090 in two of my rigs just waiting for the 50 series and I’ll have ryzen 9 7950xd 96gb of ram and a new card will be wild
Why so much RAM???
6700 XT does what I need it to do, and got it for a good deal used recently.
Lemme guess, RX 6700 XT.
Edit: oh, I'm surprised it wasn't even mentioned once.
bro you made me buy an all AMD setup so its your responsibilty now :D, so far i'm happy
The best card I ever bought was my EVGA Geforce GTX 1060 6GB. So far it has played every game I have ever tried playing. When Fallout 4 came out I had to buy a new card and I bought a card that would fit the low end of the requirements which was an Nvidia Geforce 750ti 2 GB. I'm not sure why I bought the 1060. I can't remember but I found it on eBay as a refurbished that was like 6 or 7 years ago. I just took that card out and gave it a deep clean and new paste. Having 32 GB of 1600mgz of RAM has likely helped it but I'm fairly sure that there are some games coming down the pipeline to which I may have to upgrade my entire system or just not play those games. I own something like 500 games that play on this system thanks to Epic Games. I have no shortage of games to try and play so I'm not too worried about upgrading. This means I can sit and wait for everyone to upgrade and sell or refurbish their used systems. Hopefully, I will be able to find some decent used gear that I can buy 1 part every couple of months until I can build a new rig but this system is decent for me right now. It's an Asus MB with an Intel I7 4770k 32GB of RAM and a 6GB 1060. I'm a retired PC tech. I passed at the top of my class and I apprenticed with a computer tech after I finished my course. Computers were much easier to repair back then compared to now but most people don't actually repair computers all they do is clean and swap parts around and then call themselves a computer tech. I have this MB that worked before it was shipped I have tried almost everything to fix it. I just spent 2 hours micro-scoping the board looking for signs of damage with no luck. I did find a few bent CPU pins so I fixed them but doubt that will fix it. There is a lot of redundancy in those pins so it doesn't matter if 1 or 2 are out of order. I will now order a diagnostics card because I seem to have lost mine I have one for a laptop but it won't work on a desktop. No one really fixes a motherboard issue they just buy a new one or replace it if a ram stick goes we don't fix it we buy a new one If a video card goes you buy a new one. There are people that are fixing their GPUs now and that's good to see. Usually, though you don't repair a part you simply replace it. How can you call your self a tech if all you do is replace parts?
Same! Got the gaming x from msi and still using it
Same, still using it, even for VR gaming
It comes down to cost per hour. You can't justify spending an entire day, or more, to find a broken trace on a board when you are trying to run a business. If he can throw a new piece of hardware at it and get 5 jobs done in a day that's what pays the bills. Spending all that same time on one job is not an effective use of his time as a business. If it's some super rare or ungodly expensive piece of hardware then maybe, but the customer needs to charged accordingly. Most people want the fix done as quickly and cheaply as possible. On your own personal hardware that's a different story you can burn all the time you want on it.
@@brandons9138 Obviously.
@@KoolBreeze420Obviously, yet you bag on him for doing exactly that.
I just got myself an rx 5700xt for under $100. Absolute banger of a deal!
I love my 4090. honestly AMD is not bad, but if you have the money, buy Nvidia.
Like he said we are all not rich
Buying a 2 thousand dollar gpu is not worth it even if I was rich.
Absolutely not, the 7900xtx isn't even worth mentioning compared to 4090, so no if you are rich Nvidia is the only way to go@@almightybogza
@@almightybogzait’s worth it if you want it.
@@lexxnewton No it sure aint
I love my 6700xt and the performance is incredible
Idk man the 30's from nvidia is very good
Nvidia is good if your getting it used (be careful when buying used ofc) but if your getting a brand new GPU AMD is the way to go
If they are priced fairly and you aren't planing to keep them for long nvidia maybe better for you, but amd is more future proof because of 1st : fine wine drivers, 2st : custom drivers allowing latest drivers in old legacy graphics cards(r9 series and older)
@Fuwiejdbxjdsksk364 That is the most biased statement I've seen in a while, and all your comments on your account are literally praising Nvidia for literally doing the bare minimum. They have stopped caring about the community and moved on to caring about money. Meanwhile, AMD is listening and making smart moves like sticking to mid range GPU's and doing their best to make the PC community easier and cheaper to get into
@@adoptedorange52951 I hope you will enjoy paying $3000+ for a 5090 :)
@@X_irtzblud if will have more powah than your full and build
I use nvidia cause it has a lot of features i really like and im not super limited on money
After Weeks of research i ended up deciding to get a 6700XT exactly because is better performance for less money, and i don't regret it a bit, I'm having a blast with the GPU, im even playing at 4k on stable framerates
AMD is more powerful and cheaper. Nothing else matters.
Everyone on Reddit said to buy an AMD so I bought an NVIDIA. Don’t know anything about computers.
Wisdom minds were following him but he was faster
Good call. Stay away from those online noobs with no jobs and no income.
I love my XTX and, from what I've heard, FSR3 is going to be a game changer. Definitely looking forward to it. There's also been rumors that they're gonna go all out for the 8900XTX and topple the 5090 and I'll be doing a full upgrade if that happens.
There is also a rumor about focusing on the mid range for the next gen. Which is even better than buying a 5090 that I nor more than 90% of gamers cannot even afford...
6950 XT is definitely the sweet spot where I live. Cost the same as 4070 dual cards, and performs much better.
Not sure about over in the states, but if you're buying new, I think the 8gb a770 is really good in the UK.
For me the 4080 was the best Option.
Needed a good gpu for gaming but the more important things were that my ais are running as fast as possible.
RVCV2, about 2s for a 3 min sample
SD1.5, about 10s for 512x512 and 30 steps
Can use a chunk size of 128 for my live RVCV2 AI (about 300ms delay)
Bro that pricing is like £1200. When the Rx 7900xt and xtx and just as good and better, for FAR, better pricing
@@thefilthycasual448did you not read
@@thefilthycasual448 they are using the gpu for ai research nvidia is more well-established in that field
@@thefilthycasual448read the whole thing bruh.
What are you doing with AI? Iam not really into that but it is an interesting topic
i just got a 4070 and i could not be happier
You got scammed
I got it for $350 after taxes because I applied for the Amazon credit card, it’s not bad at all
@@neutralprofit7699and you got brain washed
3070 has more fps per dollar so you should've gotten that instead
@@truphot17800XT provides equal (if not better) performance at a 100 dollars less so he indeed got scammed.
It's like Apple VS Samsung. Samsung has well prices phones that have good specs and Apple has overkill phones that are highly priced.
If u game, amd, if u edit, damn u really need that cuda cores, way better for rendering than opencl
I got myself a 4060ti. DLSS means alot imo
But it's shit and can be outrunned by a 3070 and also DLSS 3 can be forced and why not just wait for FSR 3?
@thebottles3153 because it's about 5 percent faster than a 3070, I'm not sure what you mean abt DLSS 3 being forced, only the 40 series can do it, and its also better than FSR 3
I actually did it once lol and it just boosted my 20 FPS GT 710 to 30 FPS in Hitman 3@@PokeTale12
we found the one who bought the 4060 ti lmao
edit: th-cam.com/video/818Ii1_F6fk/w-d-xo.html
what do you mean 5% faster than 3070 lmao the 4060 and 4060 ti are shit
Thank you, dude I appreciate you goofy ahh Nvidia fanboys defending it while their money is just fading into dust.@@qwertyuiopasdf160
Me who bought arc a770: Maybe I did something teribly wrong??? (Bought it for 370)
Intel is surprisingly very good for first gen card. But i would have waited for more launches to see an optimised top of the line card. But the drivers keep on making the card better.
waiting for battle mages :)
You’re doing something right by incentivizing more competition
you not alone, I got my a770 for $200. and im more than happy
I also got a A770 16gb
In India a lot of amd graphics card are not available
For me, it's the simplicity of the Adrenalin UI software and getting real-time feedback during gaming.
i dont know about that, amd gpus and cpus have lots of problems with the drivers and even with the build quality
I think those are patched in the same update as the covid outbreak
Nvidia graphics cards have just as many driver issues as AMD graphics cards and AMD CPUs are actually much more stable than Intel CPUs.
AMD fanboys spend their whole day saying that AMD is better and brush off the fact that people use their pc for work and creativity. In Reddit threads, TH-cam comments, etc. Okay we get it, you don’t have money
For me, power savings rack up over time and it’s something I strongly consider too. Nvidia has nailed efficiency this last gen and it also prevents things like coil whine from occurring as much due to the lower power draw
Is 600w efficient to you?😮
Lmao efficient????
The only reason I currently own a nvidia card right now is for the tensor cores to do machine learning 😊
Lots of streaming is switching to A V1 encoding which both sides have and AMD has FSR which, depending on your use case will be more than enough if the game supports it. Overall the main thing to focus on is rasterization performance. Raytracing looks fine IMO but the performance hit is just too big of a hit
This
yes but like warhammer40k darktide or remnant 2 it is nearly unplayable without using any kind of upscale technology. Therefore only focusing on rasterization on future games won't work because of incompetent devs.
Dlss and ray tracing are something I really want so I'm sticking with nvidia when I upgrade
Stick to ray tracing not Dlss. The more nvidia market that thing the more they will squeeze people out dry since "Why not just Dlss to increase frames..." instead of actually focusing more on raw power than articial scaling , especiallly with frame generation
in my country gpu prices are really really high the rx 7900xt costs as much as a rtx 4080 and rtx 4090 has a 25% markup
I'm running a 3070 and i7 11th gen in my streaming pc for content creation then a ryzen 9 5900x and rx 7900xt for my gaming pc and its been great.
Nvidea forever❤
For real. As much as I want a 4090 ...I'm starting to lean on AMD
3090 ti used rn localy to me are 650 $$$ that beats the 4070ti by a tiny bit, had better memory bus and more vram then the 4070ti also, close to a 4080 in performance. Also it's cheaper.
@@TheOGstriker the 3090ti here is going for over $1000
Back when the GTX 1080 just launched. I managed to get it brand new for 590$ NZD and I am still rocking it. Thanks Computer Lounge NZ.
Even with nvidia and Intel being the absolute best with performance, im still gonna buy AMD because im not gonna support companies that I don't like
Just get a 4090 and call it a day
Nailed.
@@Mike1984-lc9rh 💯💪🏻
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Would never get an AMD gpu. NVIDIA has way too many features which are better for streaming as well as GeForce experience. AMD is prone to crashes and poor drivers
Proof?
@@yazouruaim694lemme know when you get that proof 😂 im still 50/50 for which GPU to get
AMD has actually improved a lot on their drivers and currently both around the same. Nvidia even recently had this problem where 3080 ti got bricked in Diablo IV beta.
You never used an AMD GPU so you don't know just how optimized and great the drivers have become. Especially the newer stuff. Just looking at Adrenaline software will make you hate the Nvidia control panel from 69 BC
@@biggestwmans4 nvidia if streamer or productivity or best performance. Amd for gaming only and price/$.
I am buying my first pc, I have saved over 4K aside just so I can spend it on the pc and I am looking at the RTX 4080 paired with intel i9 13900k. Are they a good pair?
The issue I have with AMD video cards is that for VR they are at best decent and at worst unsupported. Wish they'd put more effort into that sector, otherwise I can only get nVidia GPUs despite not wanting to support their price gouging
CPU connectors would be cool like an tower and you can add 2 i9 to double the power of normal cpu
first desktop i just got is intel and nvidia, but im def going with amd whenever i get a new laptop so that i can get a taste.
I have a 6900xt and its a absolute unit i love it to death.
If you are a Fortnite player i prefer NVIDIA because AMD haves some issues with Fortnite like performance mode not working right and some other stuff. But else i prefer AMD
Hey I have a pc budget of 1500 and I want to get into unreal engine 5 any part recommendations would help a lot
You can get get 13600k with a 4070, 32gb ram, aio water cooler 32gb ddr5, 750 watt power supply, case and 1tb m.2 it will cost you around 1500 to 1550 with a mid range mother bored
as someone who cares very much about 4k gaming(if I were to go out all out and actually upgrade to a new pc) and seeing that nvidia purposely put too little vram on their 4000 series cards, to then release supers with enough vram later....
screw them. xD
I have an unlimited budget for my current build; I had $9,000 set aside for a Mac Pro, and the new Mac Pro has made me sad. It’s on me to build my own machine.
So, my requirements were:
1. Most importantly, Thunderbolt 4 with dGPU pass through. I power: either 2x 5K displays or 1 6K display, a 16 channel mixer, 3 mirrorless camera, a lighting rig, various accessories off of ONE cable.
2. Mini ITX.
3. Either a 10GB Ethernet or a second TB4 port for Ethernet
Mini ITX forced a z690i board: there is only one mini board that has TB4 dGPU pass through. From there, I just had to pick components. I analyzed where my workloads were bound: they are largely GPU bound workloads. That meant that a 13900K was going to be wasted - which is actually great, because I need to mitigate heat; I can’t fit a full size CPU cooler. I grabbed a 13600K. Then, I analyzed linux support for both Nvidia and AMD. I chose AMD, and then I just picked their top of line card that I could fit into my case: Pulse 7900 XTX. Ram was easy: 2 6800 speed DDR5 sticks at 48GB each.
And for the case, it’s a custom case that I can’t disclose the manufacturer of, or Apple will shut them down - but it’s a miniature replica of a cheese grater Mac Pro. Just barely large enough to fit these components and an SFX PSU.
The plus side: maybe I’ll install windows on one of my 3 M.2 drives (4TB) and load up Steam. I haven’t used windows since Vista, so it’ll be interesting to say the least.
"If your anything like me" bro thinks hes one of us 😂
not to mention cuda, Used to train models, llms etc..
If you want to do ML/AI Stuff Nvdia is the only go to
:3
The 4080 super was a little cheaper than the 7900xtx where I live, so that made the choice pretty easy for me
Although with the and refresh cards, rumours, if there true, the cards are gonna be sick
As a content creator I really like their software. So I'm gonna go with amd gpu but don't know if go with 7800xt for av1 option or 7900xt or 7900xtx
If you included dlss in the price per performance it'd be closer since fsr isn't quite as good, but it's close enough that I'll stick with amd
Intel arc is also a great option for the mid range gpus
Fsr 3: hello there
Bought my first GPU a while ago and i went with the 6700 xt, it absolutely shreds and i have no regrets.
I dont love the Team Green prices, but I honestly really like my new 4070. I've never had an AMD gpu but I do love their CPU's so they might be my next gpu
Can you please explain how drivers work and where i can download them
Nah im gonna get like a simple nvdia for streaming etc (maybe not rn rn ill get my first pc) but luke for the FUTURE of like doing videos thats better
for blender 3d rendering what gpu would be great that is budget friendly/ mid range? opinions needed. Please start a war under this comment section lmao
Yeah ngl my 13600kf + XFX 7900XTX were worth it. Brutal performance for so much less than getting a 4090 or a less powerful 4080. (I don't use RT and I don't do streaming/content creating so benefits of Nvidia don't matter to me)
DLSS 3.5 is kicking ass, huge fps boost, with almost no quality loss. The FPS/dollar ratio switches..
I’m just weird about having to install new drivers, that and dlss3.0 are the things keeping me leaning towards a 4070/ti
I am tired of the Nvidia AMD debates like HS girls arguing.😢😢 Give it a break. Get the card that is best for you
Want ONLY GAMING go for AMD, everything else like Content Creation, 3D work, AI Computing, etc it's all Nvidia.
Not to mention even in Gaming Nvidia beats AMD but still AMD will suffice most people's needs.
Gaming pc becoming melting
Bought a 20h used 6800XT reddevil for 470€. Never looking back to RTX cards.
Bought a Ryzen 5 5600X and an RX 6700XT after owning a 2060, love my new parts
after all, ubisoft did use amd to help optimize and make far cry 5 (best game of 2018) so good
I’ve had a rx 5600 xt only thing I got to complain about is for like a year the graphics drivers were straight ass always crashing even when just on the desktop but they fixed it and haven’t had a single issue
In Canada nvidia is a quite a bit cheaper than amd but in every other way I would pick amd
Used cards are tough to choose from, 3070's are cheaper than even used 6700 xt's, and perform better in 1440p which is my monitor resolution, but 6700xt's got more vram, so not sure which to go with, coming from a 1070 ti and 2600x
4070 runs at 58 max degrees even during highest of loads my games put on it at 40% fan. Thats efficiensy i appreciate during hot summers in my small apartment. It idles at 28
Bought my 7900xtx today and its SHREDDING 😮💨