@@KenRurouni ikr esp cause im fully f2p and i dont have tingyun or ddd :'3 any other suggestions?I have an e6 asta and hanya unbuilt though...just tried to build asta and throw silver wolf into acheron team but my seele does less dmg now because theres no def shred at all without silver wolf...
@@TerraTheWiseNo reason, just a fun challenge for myself and some others. Aiming for 0 cycle usually takes some thinking for E0-E1S1 owners while aiming for clearance only is really easy so it gets boring pretty quick. But this time the MoC is just a unit / eidolons check so it's pretty much close to impossible (at least from what I can see)
@@kurokamionce1802 i know, her eidolons suck ass which is good in my case i just want her and the lightcone. im only pulling her because ive been able to consistently clear moc 12 and now im just pulling for who i feel like
Since my DDD is just S3, I need more than 167.2. 1 Refinement lesser from DDD need to add about 2.5 speed. With the help of hackerspace and some extra speed, she manage to get the 4 movement in wave 2 for the 0 cycle!
Correct me if I'm wrong but for Firefly to go 4 times, she needs above 225 speed right? I use E0S1 Firefly with 154 speed and have Ruan talent level 10 so my Firefly does hit 226 speed after entering enhanced mode. But your subtitles say 167 speed?? And your Firefly actually have 170 speed as well so I'm just super confused.
@@zan1971 167 base speed, without ruanmei buff. 226 is under the molten core speed. 167 allow you to move once more after molten core end. I have 170 here due to DDD is not s5 so I need some extra speed.
@@KenRurouni I'm using WHAT IS REAL? on him Hoping to break the enemies quicker and do some break effects Damage but I'm truly clueless whether it's good or not on him, Thank you for your reply Ken-San.
@@fhadhirollal4445 Gallagher can also run Multiplication to ease down the speed need, but you might run into trouble sustaining your team due to lack Break Effect, or just overall Gallagher DPS.
@@fhadhirollal4445in my experience it’s not very useful. It increases his damage and heals by quite a bit if you’re still missing some break effect stats, but he generally already heals a lot by default, and the self heal part is pretty much useless. Extra energy provided with QpQ is much better imo.
Well, is better to run some other unit that has better dmg if this is the case. She is still doable but it gonna cost you more than 5 cycle without those good supports
depends on what you aiming for. 155 with no DDD, she can move three time before molten core end. 167 with DDD can move once more after molten core end before the 0 cycle check!
@@KenRurouni idk what, but i guess you are already known well to these absurd synergy. Same way as how jade and QQ synergise to each other, kinda absurd but indeedly working well
Thats because Gallagher dmg and toughness reduction is carrying Firefly team. There is no other sustain right now that can take advantage of superbreak like Gallagher.
@@kennethyoung7457its kinda crazy how much people are glazing firefly when gallagher hard carries her; its absolutely delusional. Even in AS, the fastest clear always has gallagher in it lmao. Gallagher and hmc are the real carries when it comes to firefly comps tbh
@@takuyamishima8 they can 0 cycle for sure, but they are all weak to fire and you need to break that boss is just made for FF imo, even though yeah a lot of characters can take advantage of that
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i dont like how this moc12 was literally just the last one but switched nodes._. its pretty poopoo
Yeah I was really exited for it
i thought i could clear it again but the trotters from the last turbulence really just carried me😅
@@cryohypostasis i ended up clearing it all but still, pretty disappointing moc ngl
@@cryohypostasis Same i cleared the last one but couldn't full star this one. I guess the trotters carried me lmao
Yeah, I'm still pretty mad that they put DOT cup guy on 2nd node. My Svarog can't even do FuA while that mf freely stack DOT on my team forever 💀
This “new” MOC really did expose a lot of people for being carried by Trotters
The trotter is really strong for firefly and boothill. Without it and not hitting speed treshold, 0 cycle is harder to achieve!
@@KenRurouni ikr esp cause im fully f2p and i dont have tingyun or ddd :'3 any other suggestions?I have an e6 asta and hanya unbuilt though...just tried to build asta and throw silver wolf into acheron team but my seele does less dmg now because theres no def shred at all without silver wolf...
@@magiveem Acheron, DoT user[ specifically Black swan or Guin], SW, and sustain should be perfectly fine
@@lbomb1121 i was able to beat it just fine without the trotter buff tho ngl 😭
@@magiveemput pela with luka LC on archeon team
Strongest DPS of the past vs the strongest DPS of today
Time flies~
Time Fireflies
@@jerichtandoc7789I hope you get a hangnail for that joke
@@jerichtandoc7789 no pun intended
the real bad rng is no criting with seele
ya the sad thing :(. without her crit . she cant kill the dot cup guy fast
Haiya... need to pray and light more incense if 99.7% dont crit!
@KenRurouni if its not 100% its 50/50
@@kevingraham4736 light more incense 🤣
5:00 holy cook!! Very nice 0 cycle👌
Bro really said "WHO SAID SEELE WAS POWERCREPT" 🤣🤣🤣
This MoC is literally hell for people aiming for 0 cycle, my mid relics can't do much here.
This moc is either having firefly for an ease 0 cycle or have eidolons on limited supports to 0 cycle
0 cycle for what though?
@@TerraTheWise For fun, game's easy and IMO there's no fun in normal clears because you don't need to think.
@@TerraTheWiseNo reason, just a fun challenge for myself and some others. Aiming for 0 cycle usually takes some thinking for E0-E1S1 owners while aiming for clearance only is really easy so it gets boring pretty quick. But this time the MoC is just a unit / eidolons check so it's pretty much close to impossible (at least from what I can see)
@@elysiaplushie this moc has no turbulence buff at all for 0 cycle. Relic check is harsher and need solid harmony to get it done!
Can they please give more enemies quantum weakness in future MoCs because it is already tough for me being a Seele main
@@kingky9600Yeah, haven't used her in a while.
The real break DPS is Gallagher
Every seele video is a good video
Im glad people are still using Seele like me, my friend list shows all FF and Acheron teams for Moc12 while I used Dot and MonoQuantum
I am trying to build Mono Quantum I just need Silver Wolf
Is it me or is this moc buff the worst. I actually can't think of a worse turbulence we've had.
This turbulence is slightly weaker but is still alright I would say. Well 0 cycle dont even get any turbulence buff this time 🤣
its cuz this turbulence is for yunli
For fua enjoyer like me, this buff is good😂
I liked this MOC very easy 0 cycle for my FF team and then 4 cycles for my other team(I need Jiaoqiu) 💀
Dude hyper Selee cooked, I didn't have Robin but I could clear 3 star anyways
Would you pull changli? I want to see how you play her
I pulled her already, need some time to learn since she a heavy quick swap character!
Amazing
Thanks!
Bro not activated sparkle e2 💀💀💀💀💀💀
saving stellars until seele re run part 50
Good luck on the rerun pulls
@@KenRurouni thank you man, I've been wanting ever since i started playing ^_^
@@solarenity but don't get baited into Seele Eidolons, is better to go for Superimpositions on his LC instead
@@kurokamionce1802 i know, her eidolons suck ass which is good in my case i just want her and the lightcone. im only pulling her because ive been able to consistently clear moc 12 and now im just pulling for who i feel like
@@kurokamionce1802 nah don't get more than 1 copy for her lc. Better to get her support eidolons instead
is this even possible a e0 s1 for seele
is there a benefit from that 170 speed FF?
Since my DDD is just S3, I need more than 167.2. 1 Refinement lesser from DDD need to add about 2.5 speed. With the help of hackerspace and some extra speed, she manage to get the 4 movement in wave 2 for the 0 cycle!
Correct me if I'm wrong but for Firefly to go 4 times, she needs above 225 speed right? I use E0S1 Firefly with 154 speed and have Ruan talent level 10 so my Firefly does hit 226 speed after entering enhanced mode. But your subtitles say 167 speed?? And your Firefly actually have 170 speed as well so I'm just super confused.
@@zan1971 167 base speed, without ruanmei buff. 226 is under the molten core speed. 167 allow you to move once more after molten core end. I have 170 here due to DDD is not s5 so I need some extra speed.
@@KenRurouni Ah ok I didn't know she could move again immediately after exiting the enhanced mode. Thanks.
Playing since day 1 but I have 0 ddd😢
I finally managed to s5 firefly banner. But I only have s1 eyes of prey. I want that lc copy it dodges me like crazy.
Its sad, all the lc 4* that i got from pulling has no DDD as well 🤣
Seleee im your fan!!!!!!!!
Is there any benefit if I use Body ATK and Sphere ATK on Gallagher?? And I use 4 piece Thief with 160 Break Effect, SPD 142.
for normal clear is totally fine. Try to push more speed on Gallagher if you are running QPQ on him!
@@KenRurouni I'm using WHAT IS REAL? on him Hoping to break the enemies quicker and do some break effects Damage but I'm truly clueless whether it's good or not on him, Thank you for your reply Ken-San.
@@fhadhirollal4445 Gallagher can also run Multiplication to ease down the speed need, but you might run into trouble sustaining your team due to lack Break Effect, or just overall Gallagher DPS.
@@fhadhirollal4445in my experience it’s not very useful. It increases his damage and heals by quite a bit if you’re still missing some break effect stats, but he generally already heals a lot by default, and the self heal part is pretty much useless. Extra energy provided with QpQ is much better imo.
Второй эйдалон на искорке активируй, и Е0 Зеля станет ещё сильней!
переведи хотя бы, прежде чем отправлять😢
and this is necessary to show that with «small» investments it can still pass 0 cycles
her rerun is coming up! Once the rerun come by, she will be E2~!
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@@Zambl4 не всегда
Another great video, I'm still regretting not having Robin...BTW Hanabi is coming in 2.4 will u recommend me to get her E2, or E1S1?
If you dont have Bronya's 5 star LC then E1S1
E2S0, Sparkle S1 is legit a DDD downgrade most of the times because of how much extra speed you have to build.
@@BailuGaming Really? Then I'm getting her E0S0 and use DDD on her.
@@BailuGaming my sparkle is E0S1 with 163 speed. Im happy with her performence
E2S0, if you only can afford that. After the rerun, I will be ticking her E2 as well 😉
same lu except gallaghar to bronya , 0 cycle :)
Nice!
@@KenRurouni learn from you :) , same rotation.
Seele stronk!!
dont suppose youd expect this question but, graphic settings?
how is your Tungyun's ultimate ready at the start?
@@monochromeink. tingyun tech twice...?
@@KenRurouni oh... is there like, a list of which techniques stack and which don't? 😅
S5 DDD when will you come to my account T_T
Firefly 167 speed outside of battle or with RM and ornament set buffs?
Base speed 167.2 outside of battle
Can E0S0 FF still 0 cycle?
Yes, exchanging the lightcone still able to do it with the same speed setup.
I got trash relics I can only reach stage 7.
Slowly grind your way up!
itll take time, just keep getting characters, develop team comps, decide whats best for you and what you enjoy playing
I need to know if my e0s0 seele without sparkle and robin has a chance
Well, is better to run some other unit that has better dmg if this is the case. She is still doable but it gonna cost you more than 5 cycle without those good supports
No. Tried it and this is a strict seele 0 cycle or bust team setup requirement.
Firefly needs 160 ir 167 speed?
depends on what you aiming for. 155 with no DDD, she can move three time before molten core end. 167 with DDD can move once more after molten core end before the 0 cycle check!
What ddd@@KenRurouni
@@braveking2671 dance dance dance, harmony light cone
FF 170 speed, that's horrible
its needed for 5 movement in wave 2, EEEeQE. You can aim for 167.2 speed if you have S5 DDD. I need the extra speed here since my DDD only at S3~!
What the hell purpose of robin for seele is?
1 additional turn in the cycle, coordination attack and atk buff which Seele lacks.
@@KenRurouni idk what, but i guess you are already known well to these absurd synergy. Same way as how jade and QQ synergise to each other, kinda absurd but indeedly working well
Tingyun 60k?
With the help of robin coordinate attack and she manage to crit too xD
Pretty shitty moc for waiting 28 days extra 😂.
NAH FR 💀💀💀
Firefly 0 cycle= with sustain
Seele 0 cycle(basically everyone except ff)= no sustain
This just shows how much of a powercrept firefly is. Its crazy
That only show how that boss was made for FF...
@@kurokamionce1802 You could say the same for acheron, dhil, jingliu yet why cant they?
Thats because Gallagher dmg and toughness reduction is carrying Firefly team. There is no other sustain right now that can take advantage of superbreak like Gallagher.
@@kennethyoung7457its kinda crazy how much people are glazing firefly when gallagher hard carries her; its absolutely delusional. Even in AS, the fastest clear always has gallagher in it lmao. Gallagher and hmc are the real carries when it comes to firefly comps tbh
@@takuyamishima8 they can 0 cycle for sure, but they are all weak to fire and you need to break that boss is just made for FF imo, even though yeah a lot of characters can take advantage of that
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!