Opening a $10,000 Box of 1988 Fleer Basketball! Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Miller, OH MY! 🔥🔥
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We’re talking 80s basketball cards and having some fun! On this episode we open a 1988 NBA Fleer Box searching for MJ, Scottie Pippen and more! .
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Quick question,was it an issue that you put the sticker card with the wax on it on top of other cards in your good pile? Will the wax rub off on the face of the other cards
Great video
Just started new card biz any tips?
HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY FOR ANOTHER BOX.... I HAVE THEM AND OTHER ONES
I have those cards I want to sell them all and all great football plus a few hockey. How can I sell them . What's the best way ???
I miss opening packs of 1988 fleer basketball with my Mom and dad for $2 each back around 1991. I was 15 and life was a much simpler time then.
2$ seems high back then for a pack
@@79TEOG in 91 they were already 3 years old so hobby shops were about $2 each in my area.
Yes those were the good old days
Agree, Pastime Sports! We’re the same age bro! Those were the best times to collect!
Shi now at my antique shop I can get a single pack of 1989 basketball, baseball and hockey cards for a buck a peice, bought 30 and got over 10 wayne gretzky cards, Mario lemieux, got Jordan and alot of other crazy well known cards in perfect condition
I love to see collectors enjoying their hobby. I'm a coin collector, and all these years later I still enjoy it .
Years ago my parents sold my basketball card collection of hundreds of cards from the early 90's. Probably got $10 for it and videos like this bring a tear to my eye
Well my ex wife took my football, baseball and basketball card collection of 10,000 and threw them in the trash.
Man, when these cards were in my local corner store as a kid, I was riding my bike there to spend my allowance on baseball cards - I wish I had been into basketball back then.
The fact that you're not immediately sleeving up those jordans, rodmans, millers, etc is pure madness
Because he doesn’t care about the hobby. He just wants money
Monsta BBX but if he cared about the money, he should care about the condition of the cards
Do they penny sleeve them if they put them in card saver 2s though? That’s what you send to psa in
Agree. The whole sliding the cards so rough made me cringe. Some of those could fetch a little bit of money. But only after the high dollar. Shame.
@@noahmonstwil7794 yeah but its funny if he wanted money he would sleeve them to get the best grade/ most money
One of my best memories with my dad as a kid is opening boxes of baseball cards. I wish we did more basketball also. All my 86-90 Topps aren’t worth much but the memories are priceless.
I really enjoyed watching you guys opening the packs, brings back memories!
17:07 🏀 !
$1000 Jordan so let’s not sleeve it. Let’s throw it on the pile 😳 what!
I love this, I still have my card collection for more than 20 years now. Can't wait to see renewed interest in cards. I have about 50 different Scottie Pippen cards
I collected Scottie Pippens back in the days and I have like 400 cards. No rookies:(
This is my favorite basketball cards all time. It's loaded and affordable compared to 1986 Fleer.
13:36 unboxing begins
Legend 👑
Hero of life
good looking out bro!
GOAT
If its possible to know TOO MUCH about any one thing, the guy with the beard is the living example of such a phenomenon 😳😂
Haha, Mark will appreciate that.
@@SportsCardInvestor Mark is very informative and that is appreciated!!
It's called being passionate about something... just happens to be trading cards for him
He thinks PSA do half grade's?
@@dogg196 They do.
Is anyone one else in love with the look of the pack. Just the pack
Yea cuz those old school print looks good az 👆👆👊
sent me back to my childhood the excitement that comes with opening wax packs!! thanks guys
Th excitement in this mans voice talking about his collection really warms my heart
Maybe he had to tinkle.
Wow! Awesome box! Congrats on all those excellent cards! Look forward to seeing the grade reveal!
I remember seeing a box of 1988 fleer at Walgreens on clearance for $12.99 when I was a kid. My mom wldnt let me get it and I still remember how hard i cried on the way home.
Dang. What a mistake that your mom made. You could have kept that box sealed for thirty years and could have bought her some nice stuff as well as yourself.
Dude I'm crying for you right now😢
Can't wait for the follow up graded video. This was awesome
Great box! Fun to watch too. So many spectacular cards.
I used to ride my bike to the local drug store in 88 to buy these. I have the entire set in “I was an 8 year old PSA -1”. Haha
This comment is so spot-on it hurts. I didn’t even have the whole set, but I had the base Jordan, All-Star Jordan, Miller, Rodman, Stockton - all creased up. Stupid kid!
Great video, fun to watch! When I open rare packs I tend to lean on the side of caution when guessing the grade. Example If I pull a perfectly looking gem mint card, I "assume" it will get a 9. I just hate to set extreme high expectations and then be dissapointed after waiting 6-12 months for grading. If I expect a 9, but it gets a 10 great! if I expect a 9 and get a 9, still all good :)
That was awesome, guys! Thank you for sharing.
Your you tube channel has taught me so much,thanks, I'm a new collector and you've been amazing
I’d say you guys did pretty well here. Definitely got your investment back, plus the fun of opening the packs. All in all
A big win!
I dint see anything they have grading higher than a 7 people have no clue how hard it is to get a gem mint 10 that card has to be crisper than what the factory made it lol
Need a PSA submission video step by step! Awesome content brother!
I'm getting chills watching these pulls
I still remember when I was a kid right before the basketball Beckett made it's debut. I bought every pack of these I could . Was nice to hand these off to my 14 y/o to help start his collection.
John Stockton was best point guard ever. His assist and steals record will NEVER be broken.. EVER. probably most underrated player in NBA history.
Not ever...lol
I heard that Stockton assist record is heavily padded by the nba... I forgot exactly how it was done, but that's what I've heard.
Believe it or not, if you “invested” $10k in 1986-87 Fleer wax packs/boxes/cases (fun to collect and trade, yes, but hardly considered an investment at the time), you’d have been able to buy about 650-700 boxes (depending on sales tax rate and packs at either $0.35 or $0.40). At around $70-$80k per box, that’s now worth roughly $50,000,000! That is, if you could keep 50+ cases in good condition for 34 years.
Microsoft stock would’ve been $.10 per share, after adjusting for all its splits (based on its $25.50 IPO price), so the same $10k investment, with dividends reinvested, would “only” be worth around $33,000,000 (if you didn’t sell until its now all-time high, when it was making new ATH for around half of the last 34 years!)
I remember these boxes at $15....
Except you wouldn't get 70-80k each box if you had 700 lying around lol. That quantity hurts the value a lot lol
@@billythefxck that’s not completely true. Pokemon 1st edition was very overprinted but didn’t gain value until years later, a lot of people didn’t take care of certain cards cus card grade didn’t really mean anything,
@@billythefxck reason why prices are high is because of how many are in high grade after a long period of time =high price low stock
@@rsranarr3272 that's not true. The way cards were printed in the old days, you pull a card brand new out of the pack and you're getting a 7 90% of the time. Centering and print errors. Corners dented at the factory. Literal cardboard was used up until the late 90's. And you can't compare baseball cards to Pokemon. Not as over printed as you think, and every card shop in the world was sold out the day they received every time.
Such a awesome show! Man I started collecting again and I just enjoy so much..just opening packs sleeeving em..putting them in a binder...takes me back to my childhood..
Very informative, I collect different Trading cards ( Pro Wrestling,MMA,Magic the Gathering) but I really enjoy the stories of pack openings and the opening 😁
For the cost of the 10 Grades of those four cards, you could have bought them outright and save 5K.
He said in the video they bought the box for 3k. Clearly you didn't pay attention. The 10k is probably how much he estimates the cards he pulled is worth total.
That was a lot of fun to watch! It took me back, and I felt like I could still expect cards based on the ones leading up to them! Of course I had 25qty Jordan’s that I bought for $5 each, and Sold a few years later for $30 each and at that time I felt like I had made a nice investment and profit. 😫
As collectors I bet we all have a story like that.
I pulled the Pippen rookie card in 90, then sold it a couple of years later after the Bulls started winning championships🤦
I remember my friend and I each getting a box of these at a card show for $15-$20 or so back in 1989. We had fun opening them up. I didn't get a Jordan but had like 3 Rodmans and 4 Stocktons etc. etc.
Gotta love that packaging from back then. Fun times
Good grief. That box was loaded. Can’t wait to see the results.
It wasn't loaded in 1988 the cards weren't limited. They were all equally produced there was no such thing as a rare card in the sports cards back than. It comes down to the grade thats the hard part having a 9 or 10 is really difficult to do especially with how old the cards are.
You are guaranteed a certain amount of each player like 3 cards per player per box, this box was average
@@ShaneosaurusGaming He's talking about the # rookie cards in this set not money
Is there a video of the grading results of the Jordan cards?
@@TeamDreg Not yet he's still waiting on his subs
AWESOME video. The game was different back then. I went to the Bulls vs. Clippers game on 3/30/1988 @ the sports arena in L.A. Clippers weren't very good. Jordan played 34 minutes and dropped 36 pts. Only 3 attempts of 3 pointers in the game! Crazy!!!
no one asked your opinion
These 80's videos are my favorite!
One of the crimes in the hobby is that most cards of Dr. J., one of the most exciting players ever show him in unexciting poses.
I’m getting stomach pains everytime he doesn’t put the hit cards in a sleeve right away
I'm new to the collectible scene and even I'm ready to puke 10 min in. That surface doesn't look kosher either.
was coming here to say the same. I'm halfway through, two jordan all stars and ZERO PLASTICS
@@sugarfree_shane8374 you mean the fabric that loves to get corners caught in it???
It’s because he’s not a real collector. This is all about money, he’s a corporate guy
Yeah. This guy doesn’t actually like this. He just wants the clicks and money
Sharing the excitement is priceless… thanks!
omg 25 minutes in and the stack of unsleeved cards keeps getting higher. Why the gloves if you're not going to go full on preservation? it's anxiety producing.
Gloves are mandatory to keep these gems untouched!!...Even if their commons out of unsearched packs gloves and immediatetly sleeved into plastic.I love my cards untouched.
Been the same routine since i was a boy.
Nice MJ!
Great break, can’t wait for follow up video.
I bought a graded pack a few years ago with the same sequence of cards to one of the packs you pulled with the Miller, Jordan AS and Magic sticker and commons ! My Miller only graded an 8 with Beckett as it had some defects !
That box was absolutely rewarding! So happy for you guys!!! Great investment right there!
What a lucky box. I hope you submitted the top cards to PSA. When I see the insane prices that Jordan and Lebron rookies are going for now, I kick myself for not buying those cards a few years back when they were affordable. It wasn't that long ago that you could get a Jordan 1986 Fleer PSA 10 for about $16,000 on Ebay. Now that same card is going for about $200,000.
Ya but the ask and actual settled amount are two different things.
i loved hearing his story about being grounded and sneaking out to a card show and pulling a jordan! haha!
me too. my dad owned half interest in a comic shop when i was a kid. those were my birthday and christmas presents even. sure enough, the X-men movie came out when i was a junior in high school and prices skyrocketed, and when i sold….$88k. college PAID.
I started collecting cards in 1988, but mostly football. Looking back now, I could've had a handful of those Pippen and Jordan cards! Started getting into basketball cards in 1990.
19:30 knowing theres wax stain but proceed in putting it on top of other jordan cards. this fool lol
Yea the wax/ sugar mixing with other cards isn't smart.
When you do these pulls can you PLEASE put a price tag or rough estimate of what the valuable cards are worth? Would be very helpful!!!
@@JM-tj5qm Like I said even an estimate will work. These guys are pretty much professional or have knowledge of a professional. So a price to help us guys out trying to learn would be fucking awesome.
@@JM-tj5qm I appreciate it! Ty
Lol I like the music comes on before a Jordan is pulled.
Great episode! I was watching closely and I learned a lot! New subscriber!
That's Horace Grant's RC
The Clyde Drexler in that set graded PSA 10 is actually quite valuable
Clyde is fairly cheap...just saw an 86' Fleet PSA 9 sell for $117.
Mark Price as well. And world of diff btwn 10’s and 9’s. Thousands of dollars diff
I can't watch cuz I've owned all these over years but sold most..I still got few gems squirrelled away but ya it hurts :(
Really enjoyed your video. Even though I am no card collector myself, you guys' enthusiasm and excitement was very much contagious
That box was STACKED! GEEZ!
I was more into baseball cards but I remember seeing alot of the kids I traded with having these in their card binders.
The 80s were awesome.
12 years ago I started my TH-cam channel and here we are, still doing great things! Thanks for the incredible support pranksters!!!
I am so annoyed they are not sleeving these cards right away lol
I hope you see your cards back from PSA in 2020.
1999 back was when i watched basketball. I was a Knicks fan. Ewing,starks,oakley,mason,rivers. Miller & the Pacers was my terror. Damn you Miller.
I was your opposite! Pacer Fan here! Miller, Mark Jackson, Dale Davis, Rik Smits, Jalen Rose, oh such a good rivalry! Miller giving Spike Lee the choke sign was priceless!! 8 points in 9 seconds.. cant get much better Damn you Starks!!!
Good stuff guys..took me back into time..crazy now i see you with the gloves..grading company..ebay..and us then putting those into shoe boxes like it was nothing..if we knew then what we know now!
I traded one complete set for a Jose Canseco rookie Fleer and Rookie Donruss! The set was worth $75 when I traded it!
Ouch!! The Conseco rookies are basically worthless nowadays and the 88-89 Fleer basketball set sells for around $7-800 ungraded.
Looks like you’ll be hitting the 30k subs within the next week or so. That’s awesome... I remember when you were under 5k.
Thanks!!
Crazy Kev nobody asked
@@hayduranium i remember before this channel was born
About 10 years ago I bought 1 of these pack at my LCS at the time I paid $40. I pulled 2 Jordan's, 1 reg set and also the Allstar card. Both have beautiful centering, corners, surfaces. Both myself and the shop owner didn't even belive it lol. They went carefully into protection in the store, yet to grade but I'm sure they easily should be 9, 9.5 or 10's.
Loaded with everything! Awesome! I have the big 3
Who the hell stacks their cards like that??? And can we sleeve those hits? There are 2 of you!!
Exactly... sleeve before even setting it down... smh 🤦🏼♂️
Did you separate the Horace Grants? Those are rookies too, I just sent in a couple of those.
They passed up the Mckey RC’s.
that was a great buy cant wait to see the return grades
Me too.
Awesome break fun to watch thanks for sharing
When cards were real and every card doesn't look like an insert.
He definitely needs Graded Card Sleeves to protect the slabs on that collection!
OMG! He was driving me crazy not immediately putting those in sleeves! lol
I’m glad you got some jordan cards out of here and some others
Cards with qualifiers are typically worth about 2 grades below the number grade on the flip. A 8 (OC) is worth about a PSA 6. Also in the PSA registry qualifiers drop your overall grade 2 points
did anyone else notice @34:17 that Pippen was spelled Pippin on the back of the card? it was right on the front tho...weird.
Maybe it is worth $10,000. So easy to create a rarity like the Billy Ripken. There were like 3 different ones.
What kind of questions did you ask the seller to give you the confidence that this box wasn't tampered with? Amazing episode!!!
Great question.
We asked him the origins of the box, when he acquired it, how he knows it hadn’t been tampered with, etc. He said he bought it in 1988 and owned it the whole time through, he actually had a sealed case from 1988 originally, broke it up a while back and was selling the remaining boxes. His story felt complete. He aIso had very good seller feedback including for selling similar boxes.
Sports Card Investor Excellent. Thanks for sharing.
I used to buy 4 and 5 packs at a time..... I now realize my luck is truly terrible and it wasn't just in my mind!!!😂😂😂😂 great video. New subscriber.
Nice cards! Centering overall looks pretty good and corners are sharp. These cards are notorious for the "fish eye" printing defect. Hard to tell for sure but it did look like they were on many of the cards.
I was always under the impression as a kid that if you bought a full box of cards from that year you would get every card that was printed from that brand. Guess I was wrong lol
That’s a complete set, you are referring to
@@danstevens6495 makes sense now. I only had one complete set and it had all the cards in order in one big box no packs now that I think of it.
I hope you do an update video of when they all come back from psa or whoever grades them
Will do!
@@SportsCardInvestor cant wait!!! This was a fantastic box
Beat me to the comment @ Shawn. Definitely need an update video when these come back from grading!
@@SportsCardInvestor is this video done? Highly anticipating it
For sure great and expensives cards 💪😎 old school always the best
Goated video I didn’t know much about nba cards but now I do I’m glad you pulled heat
the music kinda ruins it lol i dont get the shock factor cause the music lets me know its coming
I bought a box of these in 1989 for........$20.00!
One of my favorite sports boxes !!!!! Thanks for this episode Geoff !!!!
Man....I love these trips down memory lane. I'm right there with you, from 86-89 I was all about baseball. Mcgwire, Canseco and Griffey (my childhood hero that I still collect to this day) were my main focus. I never even thought about basketball cards until about 1992 when Shaq came along. What a loaded box. Can't wait to see the follow up video on those PSA grades! AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME video!
Well it's only a 6 month wait from PSA ...They can take another 3k and split ONE pack of 86-87 Fleer and try to hit a Bill Laimbeer. 😷
Clickbait title: "Opening a $10,000 box". Dude: "this box cost about $3,000"..
27:22
More like a $15000 box.
I think they're referring to the boxes worth, not what it cost them.
That’s what I said! $3000 is even over priced.
Awesome break! This was exciting! Mark is VERY knowledgeable. Does he have a Twitter or Instagram? I want a box now.
You guys got some great hits!! Best of luck with the future grading submission!
such a sweet unboxing!!
I have to say that having collected cards in the late 80s up to about '91...the authenticity of the hobby has gone out the window. It is no longer about the fun and excitement of collecting and talking about your favorite players; it is about the value. I have a folder of all Ozzie Smith and Vince Coleman cards because I loved the Cardinals. I also had a folder of all the Mike Schmidt cards I could get my hands on as a teenager (never could get his rookie card). These folders have no value in today's market because they are not inserts, have manufactured rarity or are graded...but they represent great players that I used to watch and root for
Exactly! I was born in ‘81 and collected through the early-mid 90’s. For me I was always looking for Shaq rookies and love the excitement of pulling them. I have a collection of all his rookies and rookie inserts. They’re not worth much but to me it’s the joy of collecting the players you were into!
Born in 02 and inherited my uncles card collection and now I have a joy in collecting, I wouldn’t sell them! Got a bunch of Kobe’s, a shaq magic card. I’ve also bought some awesome cards like Patrick ewing cards, a Jordan card. And of course some modern players also
i have 3,, 86 fleer cases sealed boxes are pretty beat though
How much?
Wow! What pulls!!!
Not sure what I am surprised more with your great finds or you not sleeving it up right away.
Fun video, i was cheering along with u guys. I love this stuff
Finally 80’s again
What was he doing, he should have been putting these cards in the 9-pocket pages for his binder, 80's style.
That's where my 80's baseball cards reside.
80s style? Never went away.
No way in 9 pocked sleeves. That is asking for dented corners
Your an inspiration to me a fellow card collector
Great pack with the first Jordan and Miller
Love your videos. But have to say, it's interesting that you both wore gloves to protect the well being of the cards, but didn't try and sit at least 6 feet apart or wear face coverings to protect the well being of yourselves from each other. Good luck w/your PSA submissions, be well and looking forward to your future videos.