''Lee would be disappointed at you. You are just like him.'' ''You're right Liliy. I am just like him. And if he saw me now, he'd be proud of who i am'' I cheered when she said that the first time i played
@Jaeger19Ultima now only if they gave us some option like this too, would have been much better. I also wanted to mention that Carley was innocent & it was Ben all along , I was curious to see how lily reacts but oh well
*spoiler alert* if you choose to save Louis,violet says some harsh things to Clem and also has her eyes get damaged but she does get better and apologizes for what she says and Louis dosent get his tongue cut out
I don’t get what Lilly’s idea was, you get kids, possible delinquents and she think their the best idea? They can be more imaginative then adults can, adults just shoot, kids can think and make traps and can rebel easier, if you get adults they’ll trust you if you break their spirit, kid’s spirits can’t be broken easily.
I love it when people see Clementine without Lee they immediately assume that he’s dead, Mainly because of death was the only thing that stopped him from being with her, and everyone knows it!
erm, Lily asks about Lee in the woods and you see Clems reaction, what do you think can Clems reaction mean other than that he is dead? There is no "room" to assume something here, its like shouting it out loud that he is dead...
@@dylanmoser521 i didn't kill Lilly i make her shamed at the end, that's gay boy need to die, he died because what his believe is stupid and i don't mind it. But the story is so stupid too, Clem cut her leg and survive while Lee died even he cut his hand off, and they also can cover body by walker's blood every time but they didn't. I would accept Lilly offer too so nobody die but the game didn't have that option, they just want drama and chaos
No Name That’s because Lee waited too long before getting his arm cut off. He got bit, then talked with the others for a while, then ventured out into town and down through the sewers. By then the infection had already spread through more than just the bitten arm. Clem got bit but just walked to the barn, so it’s more reasonable for the infection to have stayed at her leg, especially since she was already bleeding where the bite was cos Minnie used the axe to slice part of her leg. Losing that blood slowed the infection, so that’s probably why Telltale even allowed Clem to get that cut
@@almostclone3859 Lee waited too long, also arm is more close to brain, which makes the virus take over his body even faster. and that gay boy, James, in the end if you got the right choice he will realised that his things for those walker are dangerous. he later would kill walkers, giving enough time for Clem, AJ, and Tenn to escape
walker blood doesnt make you turn... dont you remember the characters covering themselves in walker guts, oh, i dont know, _maybe three or four times by now?_ they would have turned if they got *bit*
Lilly was never evil. In S1 she genuinely cared about Clementine. She even gave her those hair thingies. It's sad how she turned out in S4. I wish there was a way to redeem her and make her a part of Clementine's family again.
Can we just give AJ credit for managing to run whilst being shot and trying to be quieter to not get attention from the walkers And wasn’t he still just a toddler???
am i the only one that though shooting the horse would have been a good idea because that is how they were transporting the kids take the transport then they can't kidnap the Kids they try it on foot that will give them a better advantage on attacking Lilly and her People
I really liked James' character. He was different, calm, collected, walks with the walkers, something new. After Episode 4, I couldn't care less about him.
I'm still salty that from all the missing characters in the series, only my least favourite character gets reintroduced. What ever happened to Christa? Kenny? Vince, or any of the others from 400 days? Michonne? Javi???
Ru We could find out what happened to them at some point, Skybound Games is considering possible future Walking Dead projects but Clementine’s story concludes with the final season. I think they may tie up some of those loose ends with their future games.
Well if they did release a walking dead with characters being introduced back into the game they wouldn’t introduce Kenny or christa because Kenny can actually die in the game in 3 ways and he can also live but he won’t get introduced because he could actually die and christa probably died
Admittedly, I didn’t think there was any way for Lilly to redeem herself, but I did like how she acknowledged and admired Clementine for her strength, surviving so long; mostly on her own in the world, protecting AJ and teaching him to be strong too, and how capable a leader and warrior that she is.
Ok, to be honest, I liked Lily until episode 2. I thought she might actually have a slight chance of redemption when she couldn't pull the trigger and shoot Clem. However, after watching episode 3, I'm done with her. EDIT1: Holy shit! Thank you all for 400+ likes and comments! :D EDIT1: Am I the only one who thought Lilly was going to put her gun down at 15:22??
Paul Hurtubise I kinda do as well. She was someone who “actually” did her best to run the group. However, too much miseries befall to her and she made one mistake by killing Carley in front of everyone. I believe if she had discussed who has been smuggling for bandits at the train rode, they wouldn’t have blamed her nor kick her out of the group And I assume you liked her too??
@@louiekim824 I did. Feels like a lot of people didn't take her side back at the motor inn, since they seem to hate Lily and love Kenny. If you try to understand the position she's in, she's actually very nice and caring in episode 2. It annoys me that Kenny, who drops a cement block on her father's head (along with other crimes, based on bad judgment) gets the teary-eyed scene in the second game while Lily, who had every right to be angry, becomes just another Carver.
@@louiekim824 I think you have a good point on the first game in general, that applies to every characters. Its all about what good people do in terrible circumstances.
Same. The only reason I made AJ spare her was AJ’S well-being. And when that stopped being a factor, I did my damnednest to kill her myself. When she whines about how her people are doomed now, I really wanted to say “well if that’s what kind of people they are, I’m fucking GLAD they’re doomed”
9 years later actually Clem was 8 when it all began but we dont count from that number because it wasnt a full year when the apocalypse started and shes 16-17 when this happened. So When shes 9 years old = 1 year since the apocalypse started 10 = 2 11= 3 (around the time of season 2) 12= 4 (season 2 still.) 13 = 5 (season 3) 14= 6 15= 7 16= 8 (season 4) 17= 9 So its been 9 years when lee died. damn 9 years of a apocalypse.
@Cohen 2020 in season 1 lily wasn't a nice person but she wanted to lead and take care of the group even if she made bad decisions which made her a great character. Now she's just a shitty villain used for nostalgia bait
So you hate Carver but you like Lilly? This is a simp act or you are just a stupid feminist if you are a girl because feminists support girls no matter what bad they do.
It's it bad that I kind of wanted to see the community that Lily was trying so hard to protect. I wanted to see if it was like Ritchmond and learn more about who they where waring with.
Ever since Kenny came back in Season 2, I was always hopeful that Lilly would come back too. It was heartbreaking to see her turn out so cruel, though. She was tough, but she had heart. I’d be interested to know how the world shaped her in between the seasons.
I gotta say I'd have liked to have had Kenny survive to S4, as it would've been interesting to have seen him and Lilly reunite, and the possible conversational dialogue and choices that we would've been given.
@@TheOGFazbear I think it would be the other way around, Lilly would be yelling at Kenny while he would be apologizing. Kenny was a broken man by time he died, he was beaten close to death and he lost his family twice and only had Clem and AJ.
I would've liked a line for clem to say to Lilly in the boat cell scene in episode 3 of her taunting Lilly by saying she's glad kenny smashed her fathers head in that locker
I my characterization of Lee he has always been a humanist, and in the first season I really tried to not kill anyone until I was forced to with the Save Lot Bandits. It stems from the fact that there are very few humans as it is, but the main reason why is because I honestly wanted them to live no matter what. In this world, it is those who retain their humanity that have truly beaten it, even in death.
For me i was passive af as Lee and tried not to kill or hurt anyone. But then when I was playing as Clem I was cold af and killing and hurting everyone i could to see if anyone would mention anything about it.
I love that Lily returned. Hated how she did. I get that Lily was taken in and indoctrinated by this militia, but it shouldn’t have taken this much effort and time for her to remember that she loved Clem and used to do anything for her. (At least pre Larry death) I wish they made it so that the second Lily recognized Clementine, she turns on Abel, and abandons this whole army to stay with Clem. She explains later on that ever since she was abandoned by Lee and the group (or she abandoned them depending on what you picked) she’s been nothing but an mess. Carley (or Doug) haunts her every night, the grief of losing Larry still fresh, and surviving alone in the apocalypse all culminated in turning her into an empty shell. She had everything she needed before. Friends that could help her, Lee and Clem especially. And she threw it all away to make a judgement that wasn’t hers to make. And so regret on top of it all. So when she found the militia, she was soulless, uncaring about what happens to her. And when they gave her a gun and uniform, she didn’t care what she did to others anymore. But now, seeing Clem again after all these years suddenly ignited her heart again, and in a heartbeat chose Clem over a psycho militia she never got attached to. Wether Clem keeps Lily to forgive her or keeps her to punish her is up to the player, but she’s not leaving Clementine again.
Lol, let's just say this in short: she was already kind of a bitch from the beginning and now she's like a bandit looking for sovereign group's life storage.
@@xenomorphexidious9102 she was a bitch at the beginning because the outbreak just started, tensions were already high when Lee, Clem, Kenny, and his family got to the Drug Store, and Lee threatened her dad (assuming Lee chose to defend Duck). But when things calmed down, and Larry wasn’t stoking a fire, she calmed down as well, and was easy to talk both during and after holding out in the Drug Store. Episode 2, tensions are even higher. Leadership weighs immensely on her, and hard decisions are the norm for her and everybody else by this point. Besides this, she still cares about everybody…well the main group anyway. Ben, she never exactly warmed up to. This is evidenced at the farm. Even if Lee helped Kenny kill Larry, she hates Lee, but not enough to not care about Clem. Episode 3, she’s a wreck, and lashes out, but that’s grief for you, grief with a dash of trauma from seeing her dad’s head smashed in. Yet despite this she has the group’s interest still intact…even if it is aggressive. She kept stock on the supplies, which correctly leads to her assuming there’s a traitor in the group. She’s definitely flawed, and has shown a temper throughout the game, but unlike Larry, she’s got good reason for it, even if it doesn’t excuse it. And despite this, she still cared about keeping the group safe, and if it came down to it, she’d willingly give her life for Clem. It’s really hard imagining that going away for a heartless militia that kidnaps children and turns them into soldiers.
@@rebel1717 ...Basically someone that were ought to go on a wrong path. When rumors said an old surviviour was coming back, i thought it was christa...
Hmm..I wonder what would have happened if the game gave you an option to join the Delta...or try to anyway. Lol. The kids would not be too happy about that. 😂😂
@@daemoniumvenator7099 Homie, do you not know how frequently your eyes are used? 💀 in this situation, Louis was harmed physically and also mentally. His trauma came from his tongue being cut out. On the other hand, Violet is harmed physically and also mentally. I would argue that her physical pain is worse than Louis's, as well as her mental pain. She was literally manipulated during her time on the boat before Clem and the others saved her.
Almost 3 years... I remember preordering thr game... The ending felt so surreal - Especially after episode 2 when we didn't know whether or not that was gonna be the end after telltale shut down. What a journey.
Oh Negan would ABSOLUTELY love them both. The guy already has a humongous soft spot for kids but he also has great respect for strength (not just for physical strength). These two little badasses would impress the hell out of him.
She did kinda go off the deep end years ago and I doubt she'll have gotten any better with most therapists dead so it's not really surprising she is still trigger happy.
You do realize she kills & even if you show mercy she steals van & she cuts tongue of Louis & she kills James... Nah that bitch is irredeemable... Bitch gotta go... Expecting bad to do no evil is madness... Bitch had her chance...
It's weird how everyone is going crazy about the fact that you saved Violet and not Louis. I know he gets his tongue cut out, but jeez let us be able to choose out own choices without criticism
@@mrniceslice4479 I'm offended the fact that you thought I was offended just because of the way I speak, and of course I know what opinions are, but those people didn't respect the others' opinions.
when lily stabs mitch you can see how much that bothers her. she even shakes before stabbing him in the head. cause again, these are children. as bad and as cruel she may be, i dont think killing children is something that she really wants to do.
That and also it was probably an instinctive move. Mitch was coming after her and she clearly felt threatened, hence the knife. She didn't have much time to react to the fact that she had just stabbed him in the side of his head.
I understand that Violet was mad and she felt alone,(if you don’t save her) but think it’s quite selfish for her to forget that Clem had to PICK BETWEEN them. Like even if you pic Louis the whole way she basically feels the same. You’d think they’d make her not feel that way if you were closer to Louis.😬 If I knew my friend had to pick out of me and another I’d completely understand if they’d not pick me. Idk if that’s like a lack of self worth or something but that’s just how I feel 🤷🏽♀️
Yes, it's all about self worth. The whole point of Violet's story is that she's struggling with her mental health. I'd say depression, anxiety as well as trauma and PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if she has abandonment issues. It still shocks me how people don't get this about her character.
I know I’m a little late but Jesus’ story is actually continued in the comics! He’s originally a character from there and S3 takes place in between issue 126 and 127 (there’s a couple year gap between the two issues). Javi doesn’t appear tho
I know I'm 3 years late but if they kept it going, they wouldn't have been able to keep Clementine alive much longer, she lasted so long it got to the point of everyone will die except Clementine
If you always disagree with kenny in season 1 he will still be nice to clementine and care for her in season 2 but if you agree or disagree with Lilly she will still attack clem and the school so the smart option is to go with kenny in season 1
i'm not sure how i feel about how they portrayed lilly this season. i think what was missing most in this season was... what exactly is most important to lilly in season 4? survival for herself? survival for the community she's found/built? in s1 it was obviously her father but after losing him she freaked and i imagine had to re-find herself all over again. i always liked her in s1 but i guess i can see her devolving into a shitty person after that experience. i think we needed just a little more filling in the gaps.
I realized Lily’s rifle has a thing on the side to hold some kind of long but thin rope, unique feature even to a rifle. It’s used as a holster kind of thing.
I wonder what would have happened if Able had rescued Clem in episode 1 rather than Marlon? Especially if Marlon still snatched AJ. Clem would be leading the charge on the school. Lilly would probably have to restrain Clem to make sure she could get her recruits.
I don’t think Lilly never wanted to be harmful it’s just after that she lost her dad she got lost and couldn’t take and she took it out on the world. I’m pretty sure Lily was alright and trusted and so was Larry let’s just in the beginning of Walking Dead Outbreak people were having good and bad times.
Anyone who tried to show Lily mercy in ep3 didn’t remember what happened the last time you were put in a situation to either show mercy to her or not. I was going to but then that popped into my head
@@romazu1863 i wasnt saying that i know this video is focused on lily i was on about how the end of the episode kinda wasnt gunna have the best outcome so chill out 😂😂
@@romazu1863 yes i know but everyone is entitled to their opinion and in my opinion i see that as the best outcome because atleast vi can see out of one eye and louis wouldnt be able to talk at all
I want to see Rick in the end of episode 4, if you are smart enough you realized that the war happening up in the North is the war between Alexandria, hilltop, the kingdom, the saviours and the whisperers. There's a tiny chance we get to know at least one character from there again. Edit: Father thanksss for the like I really like your videos!!!
@@waimarieheap5608 We don't know who the delta is fighting in the game timeline. It is around 4 years after the current comics timeline, which is the commonwealth arc. As far as we know the commonwealth could be destroyed by now and Rick could be dead.
MachinimaMage Machinima I didn’t ask who the delta were fighting, I wanted to know where the games currently align with the comic timeline ?? Edit: Nevermind I figured it out myself, Clem was 8 turning 9 at the start of the outbreak and is now 16/17 so that means it’s about an 8 year jump. Carl was 9 and is now 14 at issue 187 of 190. So only a 5 year jump. So the game is ahead by 3 years. So after this game ends, perhaps at maybe issue 225-250 Clementine could find Rick and Alexandria and she could be immortalised in the comics.
if Lilly really was going against the New Frontier, i really would've liked to have seen Javier, Kate and Gabe again. it would've been such a great way to tie up all the loose ends ya know? maybe i just miss Javier lol
The comments are annoying, just let people save who they want. Yeah Louis loses a tongue, and Violet loses sight in one eye, both are really bad, but they both forgive you either way, so just let people make their own choices and stop arguing about this.
11:37 Lee was loyal unlike you Lilly. He was kind and caring. Died for Clementine. And what of you? You're alone. Nobody wants anything to do with you because of your attitude!
To be honest Delta sounds like a good place bad thing is.. They use children to fight..But after the fight im sure the childrens will live a wonderful life.
Lilly was dead after what she have done if Lee was there. Lilly son a b- reminds me of Big Smoke, Rider and Shepherd. Lee saved her dad back in Macon, and her dad punched Lee in the face letting him die by walkers. Lilly is as same as her dad. How could you hurt and kidnap kids and especially that kid whom you knew before and was loved by a person who stood by your dad in St. John Dairy when Kenny, Lee's lifesaver when Larry punched Lee in the face, was trying to kill him?
I have a theory about the last episode in season 4. You guys remember javi from season 3? Well, not only do I think he gonna show up in the last episode of season 4, but he might be the community lilly is at war with. So in the final episode, well help javi defend his home. And I really hope clementine doesn't die.
I like that theory. I was thinking if they did a DLC after the final episode that it would be interesting if they did it on Javi, with your choices from episode 5 of A New Frontier carrying over and not be for nothing. Lol.
''Lee would be disappointed at you. You are just like him.''
''You're right Liliy. I am just like him. And if he saw me now, he'd be proud of who i am''
I cheered when she said that the first time i played
Same!
Then Lilly says Why because you pick fights you can't win right I'm sure that made all his sacrifices worth it.
@Jaeger19Ultima now only if they gave us some option like this too, would have been much better. I also wanted to mention that Carley was innocent & it was Ben all along , I was curious to see how lily reacts but oh well
@@187karanveersinghjayas4 She knew that it was Ben or Carley.
@Jaegar19Ultima i like this one, they should’ve gave Clementine better dialogues.
*spoiler alert* if you choose to save Louis,violet says some harsh things to Clem and also has her eyes get damaged but she does get better and apologizes for what she says and Louis dosent get his tongue cut out
well almost blind
She actually goes blind in one eye, like, permanently.
I don’t get what Lilly’s idea was, you get kids, possible delinquents and she think their the best idea? They can be more imaginative then adults can, adults just shoot, kids can think and make traps and can rebel easier, if you get adults they’ll trust you if you break their spirit, kid’s spirits can’t be broken easily.
@@Fewchore I mean, better to get kenny'd then not be able to talk again
@@Blockyraps True, the only con to it is that Violet would be initially mad at you for not saving her (as well).
I love it when people see Clementine without Lee they immediately assume that he’s dead,
Mainly because of death was the only thing that stopped him from being with her, and everyone knows it!
erm, Lily asks about Lee in the woods and you see Clems reaction, what do you think can Clems reaction mean other than that he is dead? There is no "room" to assume something here, its like shouting it out loud that he is dead...
@@haehnchen7360fr
@@haehnchen7360Another possibility is that Lee abandoned her, but nobody assumes that because Lee would never do that
Clem: “You won’t hurt family.”
Louis: *TACKLES LILLY MID LECTURE*
That's why i saved Louis help me help u
@@dylanmoser521 i didn't kill Lilly i make her shamed at the end, that's gay boy need to die, he died because what his believe is stupid and i don't mind it. But the story is so stupid too, Clem cut her leg and survive while Lee died even he cut his hand off, and they also can cover body by walker's blood every time but they didn't. I would accept Lilly offer too so nobody die but the game didn't have that option, they just want drama and chaos
No Name That’s because Lee waited too long before getting his arm cut off. He got bit, then talked with the others for a while, then ventured out into town and down through the sewers. By then the infection had already spread through more than just the bitten arm. Clem got bit but just walked to the barn, so it’s more reasonable for the infection to have stayed at her leg, especially since she was already bleeding where the bite was cos Minnie used the axe to slice part of her leg. Losing that blood slowed the infection, so that’s probably why Telltale even allowed Clem to get that cut
@@almostclone3859 Lee waited too long, also arm is more close to brain, which makes the virus take over his body even faster. and that gay boy, James, in the end if you got the right choice he will realised that his things for those walker are dangerous. he later would kill walkers, giving enough time for Clem, AJ, and Tenn to escape
walker blood doesnt make you turn... dont you remember the characters covering themselves in walker guts, oh, i dont know, _maybe three or four times by now?_ they would have turned if they got *bit*
"Good to see you again squirt" 1 second later whacks him in the face with a double barrel shotgun
what did you expect him to say ?
@@ala1178 i'm was commuting on the fact that he whacks him in the face after saying "good to see you again"
oh ok
So that’s what it is.🤔
He was being sarcastic.
60% of comments- *Rage*
40% of comments- *save Louis*
Yeah pretty much
1% thx for saving violet
Zora The Wynx I mean I think messyourself gaming saved violet?
Princess Raya ツ no I mean that’s what the comments say lol
soft.lovinq iberleezy also saved her☺️☺️
I don’t use the term kidnapping, I use the term surprise adoption. :)
Ok, wth lol
omg 😂
Surprise adoption-
DrowZy Xxx IM DYING XXXDDD
If that makes you feel better lol.
Clementine still even has one of the "hair thingies" Lilly gave her to tie her hair back.
Yeah she still has one of the hair ties lilly gave her
ikr when i saw lilly i thought lilly would be sweeter since clem kept it like "wow.. clem you still kept that thing i gave you?"
Lilly was never evil. In S1 she genuinely cared about Clementine. She even gave her those hair thingies. It's sad how she turned out in S4. I wish there was a way to redeem her and make her a part of Clementine's family again.
@@Ignisan_66 after what Kenny / Kenny and Lee did to her dad? There was no way in hell.
@@emiackerman4430 true but he was going to turn and kill them if they didn't
Can we just give AJ credit for managing to run whilst being shot and trying to be quieter to not get attention from the walkers
And wasn’t he still just a toddler???
I think he's like 7.
@@Chey1214_ Aj is 5
AJ is machine
@@nataliab.6060 i think so too
AJ is 6
Tenn has lead to many unnecessary deaths
Dayz2Day
1. Duck
2. Ben
3. Sarah
4. Tenn
Mohammed Alkaabi Gabe too
@@justine1651 He also doesn't die if you don't go with Javi's brother whatever his name is.
Tenn is like the male version of Sarah. He's too innocent for the world.
Mohammed Alkaabi I loved Sarah tho 😭
“Lee isn’t with you”
**Immediately starts crying**
So he's dead then
@@briyanapanton7437 he lives within us and with Kenny and everyone above. He is somewhere happy.
:(
POPEYES CHICKEN IS THOUGH
Clementine will remember that
"What, so you can kidnap a couple more children!?"
"We don't need a couple...
we need all of them"
*_"That doesn't make it any better"_*
am i the only one that though shooting the horse would have been a good idea because that is how they were transporting the kids take the transport then they can't kidnap the Kids they try it on foot that will give them a better advantage on attacking Lilly and her People
They didn't say it did. They were just saying that Clem was wrong
I WILL KIDNAP A THOUSAND CHILDREN BEFORE I LET THIS COMPANY DIE!
@@dallasmay4031 smart but evil dude
@@coledoucette5116 i know it's evil but sometimes you have to make the hard choice in order to save your friends and family
I really liked James' character. He was different, calm, collected, walks with the walkers, something new. After Episode 4, I couldn't care less about him.
"something new"
> looks at the comics
@@lunarixis9957 I'm talking about this game in particular. He's something new to the franchise.
@@tallstar513 Yeah definitely, the whole sudden kidnapping thing was dumb af though
@@lunarixis9957 Yeah. They butchered his personality. They had something going, then just threw it out the window.
Same he was a dickhead. I liked the way he acted but they could've toned it down a little
15:31 And that my friend..is why Lee cut Clementine's hair.
Better if you cut out your hair in the situation like this(easier to survive)
Wasn't the person pulling Louis by his shirt? Not by his hair -.-
"Chuck will remember that"
When lily snatched clementine by her hair I said now she needs to go bald
16:04 who else notice lilly shot a walker in the shoulder lmao
Lily isn't what Clem sees her as anymore...
Clem isn't what Lily sees her as anymore...
finnishthejob no lilly is still the same
@@aaronpalma3252 lol you're confused, read what I said slower.
Chicken Burger Lilly doesn’t see the old Clem anymore (smh)
Aaron Palma :)) No. Her personality changed completely compare to season 1.
"Kill who you have to. Take the rest"
*Proceeds to Fire at everyone*
Lol good one
I thought the same thing lmao like why did literally all of them start firing
Lee would be proud. And I cry
I'm still salty that from all the missing characters in the series, only my least favourite character gets reintroduced. What ever happened to Christa? Kenny? Vince, or any of the others from 400 days? Michonne? Javi???
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@@user-sl5wt3hj1q hey that hyuckin hurted me
Ru We could find out what happened to them at some point, Skybound Games is considering possible future Walking Dead projects but Clementine’s story concludes with the final season. I think they may tie up some of those loose ends with their future games.
Well if they did release a walking dead with characters being introduced back into the game they wouldn’t introduce Kenny or christa because Kenny can actually die in the game in 3 ways and he can also live but he won’t get introduced because he could actually die and christa probably died
Kenny is ded the rest is missing from the timeline
Admittedly, I didn’t think there was any way for Lilly to redeem herself, but I did like how she acknowledged and admired Clementine for her strength, surviving so long; mostly on her own in the world, protecting AJ and teaching him to be strong too, and how capable a leader and warrior that she is.
Clem is raising Miles Morales?
NegaNiga Plz shit my brains hurt
Ain't that racist
lol
Good job
WHAT'S UP DANGER.
Ok, to be honest, I liked Lily until episode 2. I thought she might actually have a slight chance of redemption when she couldn't pull the trigger and shoot Clem.
However, after watching episode 3, I'm done with her.
EDIT1: Holy shit! Thank you all for 400+ likes and comments! :D
EDIT1: Am I the only one who thought Lilly was going to put her gun down at 15:22??
I blame the writers. She went from complex character in the first season to second rate villain.
Paul Hurtubise I kinda do as well. She was someone who “actually” did her best to run the group. However, too much miseries befall to her and she made one mistake by killing Carley in front of everyone. I believe if she had discussed who has been smuggling for bandits at the train rode, they wouldn’t have blamed her nor kick her out of the group
And I assume you liked her too??
@@louiekim824 I did. Feels like a lot of people didn't take her side back at the motor inn, since they seem to hate Lily and love Kenny. If you try to understand the position she's in, she's actually very nice and caring in episode 2.
It annoys me that Kenny, who drops a cement block on her father's head (along with other crimes, based on bad judgment) gets the teary-eyed scene in the second game while Lily, who had every right to be angry, becomes just another Carver.
@@louiekim824 I think you have a good point on the first game in general, that applies to every characters. Its all about what good people do in terrible circumstances.
Same. The only reason I made AJ spare her was AJ’S well-being. And when that stopped being a factor, I did my damnednest to kill her myself. When she whines about how her people are doomed now, I really wanted to say “well if that’s what kind of people they are, I’m fucking GLAD they’re doomed”
I wish that you could actually form an alliance with Lilly as a secret ending
That'd be interesting.
I forgot I did that
Mentioning Lee about 5 years later.
Niiiiiiice.
9 years later actually
Clem was 8 when it all began but we dont count from that number because it wasnt a full year when the apocalypse started and shes 16-17 when this happened.
So
When shes 9 years old = 1 year since the apocalypse started
10 = 2
11= 3 (around the time of season 2)
12= 4 (season 2 still.)
13 = 5 (season 3)
14= 6
15= 7
16= 8 (season 4)
17= 9
So its been 9 years when lee died.
damn
9 years of a apocalypse.
9 years later
@@kikiidk4965 jesus 9 years the apocalypse has not ended
@@slendermanfan4394 it wont end unless they find a cure, it has already been established that anyone who dies becomes one of them.
15:24 jeez louis would make a good rugby player
I didnt read 'rugby' I read Ruby :D
@@covid__2017 SAME lol
Rigby
Honestly I liked Lilly. I kinda still do, she just went down the wrong path.
Thats what people say about Hitler
Respect
@Cohen 2020 in season 1 lily wasn't a nice person but she wanted to lead and take care of the group even if she made bad decisions which made her a great character. Now she's just a shitty villain used for nostalgia bait
I suppose she a good villain
So you hate Carver but you like Lilly? This is a simp act or you are just a stupid feminist if you are a girl because feminists support girls no matter what bad they do.
Technicallyy if she shot the horse none of them would have been taken away. Then they could have done away with lily immediately.
But the horse did nothing wrong... That'd be unfair.
@@TailsGaming1999 Lmao you're watching the walking dead, it's just like "let aj shoot Tenn, or let Violet/Louis die.
@@TailsGaming1999 the horse doesn't need to die since one arrow probably won't be enough to kill it but painful enough to make it panic and run away.
Lilly:"Lee isn't with you"
AJ:"You pressed the Lee button"...
Lilly "The what?,
Clem:"You shouldn't a did that"
Dbz abridged huh
Society
It's it bad that I kind of wanted to see the community that Lily was trying so hard to protect. I wanted to see if it was like Ritchmond and learn more about who they where waring with.
@Bunbunfam you'd just see forced child soldiers getting killed by another community
Ever since Kenny came back in Season 2, I was always hopeful that Lilly would come back too. It was heartbreaking to see her turn out so cruel, though. She was tough, but she had heart. I’d be interested to know how the world shaped her in between the seasons.
Who tf saved Doug instead of Carley?
Gergő Piroska i did
Not me
Me
I saved Carley
I fucking did bitch
I gotta say I'd have liked to have had Kenny survive to S4, as it would've been interesting to have seen him and Lilly reunite, and the possible conversational dialogue and choices that we would've been given.
Oh he would be screaming at her I bet
They would be at each other's throats. They never liked each other. Definately doesn't help that Kenny bashed her father's fucking brains in.
@@TheOGFazbear I think it would be the other way around, Lilly would be yelling at Kenny while he would be apologizing. Kenny was a broken man by time he died, he was beaten close to death and he lost his family twice and only had Clem and AJ.
@@HarlequinNova well that may be true but who knows
I would've liked a line for clem to say to Lilly in the boat cell scene in episode 3 of her taunting Lilly by saying she's glad kenny smashed her fathers head in that locker
My name is Lily and I feel uncomfortable
Space_Lillies *everybody will remember that*
don't worry, she has an extra L haha
I my characterization of Lee he has always been a humanist, and in the first season I really tried to not kill anyone until I was forced to with the Save Lot Bandits. It stems from the fact that there are very few humans as it is, but the main reason why is because I honestly wanted them to live no matter what. In this world, it is those who retain their humanity that have truly beaten it, even in death.
For me i was passive af as Lee and tried not to kill or hurt anyone. But then when I was playing as Clem I was cold af and killing and hurting everyone i could to see if anyone would mention anything about it.
Lily looks like shrek.
*She gets her looks from her father* 👌🏽
Lexi OHHHHHHHHH
Lexi OMG YOU KILLED HER
@@drobviouslol 😂😂 Lol
*Lilly wants to know your location*
I thought Lilly looks even cuter now than she did in Season 1. Still can't stand her ass.
3:28 A bullet you coudnt dodge
5:36 you coudnt even shoot her lilly
She obviously wasn't talking about HER bullet dumbass.
SOVIET UNION COMMUNIST PROPAGANDIST:LET'S RESTORE and they were obviously making a JOKE.
Well she wasn’t trying to kill her i guess she was aiming for the leg and its hard to hit it while running
Damn dude I don't even remember writing this other comment a year ago lol.Man.Time sure flies doesn't it?Like wtf man
I love that Lily returned. Hated how she did.
I get that Lily was taken in and indoctrinated by this militia, but it shouldn’t have taken this much effort and time for her to remember that she loved Clem and used to do anything for her. (At least pre Larry death)
I wish they made it so that the second Lily recognized Clementine, she turns on Abel, and abandons this whole army to stay with Clem. She explains later on that ever since she was abandoned by Lee and the group (or she abandoned them depending on what you picked) she’s been nothing but an mess. Carley (or Doug) haunts her every night, the grief of losing Larry still fresh, and surviving alone in the apocalypse all culminated in turning her into an empty shell. She had everything she needed before. Friends that could help her, Lee and Clem especially. And she threw it all away to make a judgement that wasn’t hers to make. And so regret on top of it all.
So when she found the militia, she was soulless, uncaring about what happens to her. And when they gave her a gun and uniform, she didn’t care what she did to others anymore. But now, seeing Clem again after all these years suddenly ignited her heart again, and in a heartbeat chose Clem over a psycho militia she never got attached to.
Wether Clem keeps Lily to forgive her or keeps her to punish her is up to the player, but she’s not leaving Clementine again.
Lol, let's just say this in short: she was already kind of a bitch from the beginning and now she's like a bandit looking for sovereign group's life storage.
@@xenomorphexidious9102 she was a bitch at the beginning because the outbreak just started, tensions were already high when Lee, Clem, Kenny, and his family got to the Drug Store, and Lee threatened her dad (assuming Lee chose to defend Duck). But when things calmed down, and Larry wasn’t stoking a fire, she calmed down as well, and was easy to talk both during and after holding out in the Drug Store.
Episode 2, tensions are even higher. Leadership weighs immensely on her, and hard decisions are the norm for her and everybody else by this point. Besides this, she still cares about everybody…well the main group anyway. Ben, she never exactly warmed up to. This is evidenced at the farm. Even if Lee helped Kenny kill Larry, she hates Lee, but not enough to not care about Clem.
Episode 3, she’s a wreck, and lashes out, but that’s grief for you, grief with a dash of trauma from seeing her dad’s head smashed in. Yet despite this she has the group’s interest still intact…even if it is aggressive. She kept stock on the supplies, which correctly leads to her assuming there’s a traitor in the group.
She’s definitely flawed, and has shown a temper throughout the game, but unlike Larry, she’s got good reason for it, even if it doesn’t excuse it. And despite this, she still cared about keeping the group safe, and if it came down to it, she’d willingly give her life for Clem. It’s really hard imagining that going away for a heartless militia that kidnaps children and turns them into soldiers.
@@rebel1717 ...Basically someone that were ought to go on a wrong path. When rumors said an old surviviour was coming back, i thought it was christa...
Sorry but what you're saying makes no sense
Hmm..I wonder what would have happened if the game gave you an option to join the Delta...or try to anyway. Lol. The kids would not be too happy about that. 😂😂
Jazzy Gryphon the game would pretty much end lol
Jazzy Gryphon
imagine if clem joined the delta and
you'd see a whole war against the community damn,
I'd love to see that happen lol
Probably would've revealed that the group they were fighting against were people in Richmond.
@@chexgeam6598 But they already said that
i would probably choose that I love joining new communities in TWD
Lilly: Kill who you have To! Take the rest.
Lilly` s group: starts shooting rapidly.
You really got to think about the kind of person Lily is if the best outcome is leaving her unconvinced.
lilly was nice to Clem when she was small
"Best outcome"
*Proceeds to save violet, leaving Louis to get his tongue cut off*
Well, Violet being blind- that's just- in the apocalypse i don't see it really nice, but being mute, it's isn't really a survival complication
@@Natixxxa If Clem can survive with one foot, im sure Violet can survive with one eye.
@@Natixxxa you have no idea how many things you do daily require your tongue....your full tounge
@@daemoniumvenator7099 Homie, do you not know how frequently your eyes are used? 💀 in this situation, Louis was harmed physically and also mentally. His trauma came from his tongue being cut out. On the other hand, Violet is harmed physically and also mentally. I would argue that her physical pain is worse than Louis's, as well as her mental pain. She was literally manipulated during her time on the boat before Clem and the others saved her.
@@catnip4801 Clem does survive with one foot, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have a harder time surviving now...
Almost 3 years... I remember preordering thr game... The ending felt so surreal - Especially after episode 2 when we didn't know whether or not that was gonna be the end after telltale shut down. What a journey.
Imagine if Clementine met Negan. He would love her and Aj.
I actually think he would take care of them exactly like Lee.
Oh Negan would ABSOLUTELY love them both. The guy already has a humongous soft spot for kids but he also has great respect for strength (not just for physical strength). These two little badasses would impress the hell out of him.
I saved Louis in my play through cause I knew violet could handle herself
Yeah, too bad the only way to stay friends with both of them is to let Louis get his tongue cut out
I saved Violet^^^
Nahh Violet is Clem's gf in my game so saved her and Louis lost his tongue
Violet arguing about you not saving her is better than Louis getting his tongue cut out
Sh4nDGam3r I didn’t know so I saved Violet. Seeing Louis, I wish I hadn’t.
Don't under estimate my skill.
I love lily :😘
Ohh Thank you 😌
🌹
@@t-t2645 Thank you so much for the flowers
fuck u lilly u kill carley
Does clementine running from lily, jumping over logs, and sliding under those rocks remind you of temple run?
Yes
No.
Yes for real
Lilly like wtf? she been with Clem since season 1
Not in season 2,3 tho. Get it right
Nobody:
Linebackers at 3pm: 15:24
That made me cackle lmaooo
I wished Lilly could had been reasoned with
She did kinda go off the deep end years ago and I doubt she'll have gotten any better with most therapists dead so it's not really surprising she is still trigger happy.
"Lee isn't with you" *has flashback* *starts crying*
I hope Lily can be redeemed.
JaguarRider Lilly fans will remember that.
I don't
I want a redemtion for her in a Darth Vader style
You do realize she kills & even if you show mercy she steals van & she cuts tongue of Louis & she kills James... Nah that bitch is irredeemable... Bitch gotta go... Expecting bad to do no evil is madness... Bitch had her chance...
She dead XD
It's weird how everyone is going crazy about the fact that you saved Violet and not Louis. I know he gets his tongue cut out, but jeez let us be able to choose out own choices without criticism
None Nobody is saying that. We are just saying our opinions, not criticizing.
@@mrniceslice4479 There were actually people getting infuriated just for people having a different perspective, if you didn't notice.
Andrew It’s called an opinion buddy. Stop getting offended
@@mrniceslice4479 I'm offended the fact that you thought I was offended just because of the way I speak, and of course I know what opinions are, but those people didn't respect the others' opinions.
Andrew Buddy I’m just saying I recommend saving Louis but not in an offensive way
If you save Carley Lilly would “even if I shot that girl” and Clem would say “Carley “
when lily stabs mitch you can see how much that bothers her. she even shakes before stabbing him in the head. cause again, these are children. as bad and as cruel she may be, i dont think killing children is something that she really wants to do.
That and also it was probably an instinctive move. Mitch was coming after her and she clearly felt threatened, hence the knife. She didn't have much time to react to the fact that she had just stabbed him in the side of his head.
Yeah probably so used to killing walkers, it sucks to know you actually killed a person, much less a kid.
Yea lily isn’t a pure evil hearted person. She’s evil, not pure evil tho. She’s like “sht, what did I just do to this kid. Wait we have a job to do.”
@@thecollector4574she was pissed off that she killed a perfectly good future soldier
I understand that Violet was mad and she felt alone,(if you don’t save her) but think it’s quite selfish for her to forget that Clem had to PICK BETWEEN them. Like even if you pic Louis the whole way she basically feels the same. You’d think they’d make her not feel that way if you were closer to Louis.😬 If I knew my friend had to pick out of me and another I’d completely understand if they’d not pick me. Idk if that’s like a lack of self worth or something but that’s just how I feel 🤷🏽♀️
Yes, it's all about self worth. The whole point of Violet's story is that she's struggling with her mental health. I'd say depression, anxiety as well as trauma and PTSD. I wouldn't be surprised if she has abandonment issues. It still shocks me how people don't get this about her character.
@@torrinashley6076 She rlly needs a hug
Gonna be honest, thought the delta was good people at first, till I remembered that Ericson was trying to live in piece.
3:04 You have to keep faith!(Dutch van der Linde)
Loneliness. Well there was one cowpoke.
You know, sometimes it looks like the walking dead is the least of their problems...
That is the point.
Oh how I wish they can still make episodes and season. And maybe bring back Jesus and Javi but I guess that wont happen.
I was hoping Javi would come back in the end to help out. I was almost counting on it 😣
I know I’m a little late but Jesus’ story is actually continued in the comics! He’s originally a character from there and S3 takes place in between issue 126 and 127 (there’s a couple year gap between the two issues). Javi doesn’t appear tho
I know I'm 3 years late but if they kept it going, they wouldn't have been able to keep Clementine alive much longer, she lasted so long it got to the point of everyone will die except Clementine
If you always disagree with kenny in season 1 he will still be nice to clementine and care for her in season 2 but if you agree or disagree with Lilly she will still attack clem and the school so the smart option is to go with kenny in season 1
Did anybody notice their are 5 episodes in seasons to 1-3 and only 4 episodes in season 4
They couldn't think of plot for 5 episode long story, especially with episodes this long in this season (over 2 hours each, besides last one)
Thanks captain obvious
Telltale closed before they could make an episode five
@@inquisitorjasen216 ikr i miss the old early days of the apocylpse
@@inquisitorjasen216 When Ep 1 released, you could very clearly see there were only 4 episodes, so no, that's not the case
My first thought: Oh God it's the person that makes wide circles before choosing
5:03 how does Aj get shot in the stomach when Abel is behind them
Tell tale moment
Bullets/shells from shotguns can go all the way through, you know that right?
@@IgnarHusky Theres no bullet marks on his back...
Pretty sure it was about 56 degrees towards the end of his torso
i'm not sure how i feel about how they portrayed lilly this season. i think what was missing most in this season was... what exactly is most important to lilly in season 4? survival for herself? survival for the community she's found/built? in s1 it was obviously her father but after losing him she freaked and i imagine had to re-find herself all over again. i always liked her in s1 but i guess i can see her devolving into a shitty person after that experience. i think we needed just a little more filling in the gaps.
Keeping Lilly alive until the end, gonna try and close the last season with someone else from the very first episode of the first season
Why is lily always shaking??
@@E1zzzZ no she doesn't. That's fucking rude to try to use that as a joke
it's just a style in games when characters are frustrated or something
@@bomoore5170 how is that rude? chill clem.
Yeah and on the boat when she fighting Clem she stands there shaking and staring at Clem. Then balls her fists and charges at Clem
@@cainwesley918 she cant bring herself to hurt her
I realized Lily’s rifle has a thing on the side to hold some kind of long but thin rope, unique feature even to a rifle. It’s used as a holster kind of thing.
I wonder what would have happened if Able had rescued Clem in episode 1 rather than Marlon? Especially if Marlon still snatched AJ. Clem would be leading the charge on the school. Lilly would probably have to restrain Clem to make sure she could get her recruits.
I don’t think Lilly never wanted to be harmful it’s just after that she lost her dad she got lost and couldn’t take and she took it out on the world. I’m pretty sure Lily was alright and trusted and so was Larry let’s just in the beginning of Walking Dead Outbreak people were having good and bad times.
Anyone who tried to show Lily mercy in ep3 didn’t remember what happened the last time you were put in a situation to either show mercy to her or not. I was going to but then that popped into my head
15:17
tbh Lilly looks like a depressed sim
Aye Lily need to stop bringing up Lee name before" *she die😂* "
6:09 THAT WAS FUNNIER THAN IT SHOULD BE
It's a shame we didn't get to know about the Delta and who Lilly and Abel were up against. Or better yet for whom they may have provoked.
I wouldnt say it was the best outcome thinking of the circumstances and all... ( louis gets his tongue chopped off )
This video is focused on Lilly, it shows the best choices and outcome for Lilly in episode 2.
God this is about lilly not your baby
@@romazu1863 i wasnt saying that i know this video is focused on lily i was on about how the end of the episode kinda wasnt gunna have the best outcome so chill out 😂😂
@@taishax3223 Violet gets blind if you save Louis, so bassically theres no best outcome "😅😅"
@@romazu1863 yes i know but everyone is entitled to their opinion and in my opinion i see that as the best outcome because atleast vi can see out of one eye and louis wouldnt be able to talk at all
I want to see Rick in the end of episode 4, if you are smart enough you realized that the war happening up in the North is the war between Alexandria, hilltop, the kingdom, the saviours and the whisperers. There's a tiny chance we get to know at least one character from there again.
Edit: Father thanksss for the like I really like your videos!!!
This game takes place 4 years after the current time in the comics, so no, that war isn’t the one going on up north.
MachinimaMage Machinima Which one is it? Is it during the Whisperers part? Or after? Is it even now with the Commonwealth?
@@waimarieheap5608 We don't know who the delta is fighting in the game timeline. It is around 4 years after the current comics timeline, which is the commonwealth arc. As far as we know the commonwealth could be destroyed by now and Rick could be dead.
We already got a show/comic crossover with Jesus
MachinimaMage Machinima I didn’t ask who the delta were fighting, I wanted to know where the games currently align with the comic timeline ??
Edit: Nevermind I figured it out myself, Clem was 8 turning 9 at the start of the outbreak and is now 16/17 so that means it’s about an 8 year jump. Carl was 9 and is now 14 at issue 187 of 190. So only a 5 year jump. So the game is ahead by 3 years.
So after this game ends, perhaps at maybe issue 225-250 Clementine could find Rick and Alexandria and she could be immortalised in the comics.
if Lilly really was going against the New Frontier, i really would've liked to have seen Javier, Kate and Gabe again. it would've been such a great way to tie up all the loose ends ya know? maybe i just miss Javier lol
16:08 early footage of Red Dead Redemption 2 Undead Nightmare
Remu Nousiainen *seems legit enough* 👍
Im like "Oh good, Lillys actually alive thats crazy"
DONT TALK ABOUT LEE LIKE THAT DAMN IT
15:07 "This should be easy"
Yeah I forgot, I set it to Peaceful
I love that louis attacks lilly for clementine :) fav pairing
*Abel about to shoot Clem*
Commercial: *_The best of enemy's_*
4:43 proceeds to kick lilly in the back of the knee
Title of video: good choices and best outcome of lilly
You don’t need to wait until the red part of the time bar just click it
I hope the horses are okay
That's it. I'm teaching MY horse to shoot a gun!
May God have mercy on those Delta Horses
I sometimes wish games had alternate endings to games, per say you join Lilly and the delta you get a different ending .
“Kill who you have to! Take the Rest!”
Delta: *immediately starts shooting*
This walking dead really explains conscription very well, and honestly surprised me.
Mitch’s death was just brutal
Clementine : (huffing while running)
Subtitles : [laughter]
The comments are annoying, just let people save who they want.
Yeah Louis loses a tongue, and Violet loses sight in one eye, both are really bad, but they both forgive you either way, so just let people make their own choices and stop arguing about this.
When Lilly mentioned about violets ex, I was like "OOOOOOH!" and I don't even play the game because I have to wait a bit longer
Save Louis
No
@@bomoore5170 yes... 😒
مافي خيس
Then tell me everyone, Violet can be blind. Can take a fucking treatment. But. Louis? Can’t take your goddamn tongue back
No matter what path you take one of them will get hurt
11:37 Lee was loyal unlike you Lilly. He was kind and caring. Died for Clementine. And what of you? You're alone. Nobody wants anything to do with you because of your attitude!
Lilly sounds like a robot when she’s calm
Ikr I thought I was the only one thinking of that
To be honest Delta sounds like a good place bad thing is.. They use children to fight..But after the fight im sure the childrens will live a wonderful life.
Good to see you again squirt *"SMACK"*
Lily: dO yOu WaNnA jOin Or nAh?
Clementine: i WiLl NoT jOiN yOu!
Me: eK
*everyone will remember that*
Lilly was dead after what she have done if Lee was there. Lilly son a b- reminds me of Big Smoke, Rider and Shepherd. Lee saved her dad back in Macon, and her dad punched Lee in the face letting him die by walkers. Lilly is as same as her dad. How could you hurt and kidnap kids and especially that kid whom you knew before and was loved by a person who stood by your dad in St. John Dairy when Kenny, Lee's lifesaver when Larry punched Lee in the face, was trying to kill him?
I have a theory about the last episode in season 4. You guys remember javi from season 3? Well, not only do I think he gonna show up in the last episode of season 4, but he might be the community lilly is at war with. So in the final episode, well help javi defend his home. And I really hope clementine doesn't die.
I like that theory. I was thinking if they did a DLC after the final episode that it would be interesting if they did it on Javi, with your choices from episode 5 of A New Frontier carrying over and not be for nothing. Lol.