Not all 5 gallon corny kegs are created equal
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2022
- Not all 5 gallon corny kegs are created equal
A simple comparison of kegs and the actual capacity of those kegs.
Standard Ball lock vs Torpedo Keg Slimline model.
From my understanding the regular Torpedo kegs actually hold what they are rated for or more. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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You have done folks a great service with this video. It is sad when people market a product that is patently false. Either there QA is off or it is fraudulent.
Agreed as someone, somewhere knew this and either didn't tell someone or did and it was ignored. I did see the review on Morebeer over a year ago and someone back then should have addressed it and verified it as I did recently. I've always wanted to check the Slimline Torpedo Kegs out personally but when I heard it might not hold 5 Gallons and everyone I reached out to couldn't answer that question or told me it was 5 Gallons, I had to order one just to see for myself.
@@BitterRealityBrewing I would return and get my money back for false advertising.
Nice video. Thanks for doing the homework and bringing this to our attention. Hopefully it is just a manufacturing issue that can be resolved and not an intentional attempt to mislead by the company.
I would love Torpedo keg to simply come out with a version 2.0 of the slim line as it does fill a need but maybe cut the top down 1/4 inch and add that somewhere in the middle to ensure they can get 5 gallons inside the keg. I think everyone would be good with that and with the new Duotight disconnects that came out recently, they could almost shave over a 1/2 inch off the top and still have clearance.
Thank you very much for the FYI
I still like the keg and use it, but when I'd heard a rumor from a few sources and couldn't get anyone to confirm with any actual data, I felt the testing had to be done as I really wanted to know. I've sadly found too many things in home brewing that we are told to trust, and when we test them, we find they might not be as accurate as we thought. My first thermometer was off by 10F, and I didn't realize it until after almost a full year of brewing.
This was exactly the video i needed. I own a used slimline torpedo and I've always suspected it didn't hold 5 gallons. I'm in ths market for new kegs and now that I know this I will not be going with the slimline.
I tried for over a month to get the information and was so frustrated I figured buying one and measuring it myself was the only way I was ever going to get the truth.
Great video and information. It's a real bummer if a home brewer goes to buy a 5 gallon keg gets the product and finds out it doesn't hold 5 gallons. I haven't had to buy any kegs yet. A good friend of my pops gave me 5 kegs. Now I'm going to have to see how much liquid it holds. Cheers!
If they are old kegs, you should be good but who knows maybe they will hold a bit more. Deep down when I ordered the Torpedo Keg I was crossing my fingers that the guy in the review on Morebeer over a year ago was wrong but I just really needed to know before I purchase another 8 kegs in the near future.
I've got 4 of those used 3 gallons keg from adventure in home brewing and they're really nice. They do come filled with left over soda and what not, but those little keg would be perfect for your 6 gallon split batch and they're cheap ish. Only downside is they can't be easily stacked (1 handle only). I use them on the hump of my 4.3cu mini fridge with 2x5 gallons in the front for a very small footprint 3 taps kegerator.
I went crazy measuring chest freezer just to ensure I could shove 7 - Regular 5 Gallon Corny kegs in it and it worked out well for me. I do have 2 - regular 5 gallon kegs sitting don't he keg but they usually site at about 5 F warmer compared to the rest but I never seem to take notice. I just wish I could find a ton of 1.25 to 1.50 gallon kegs that were cheap and could stack but I think that might be a pipe dream.
Again very nice video.. Full of information.. Like always ;)
Thank you as I felt the small kegs might have been too much but I wanted to ensure people were aware that most kegs actually hold a bit more than they are rated for before explaining how some might actually not hold as much as they are rated for.
Wonderful video, I always wanted to know what a Corny Keg would hold. Fascinating. I just watched this look to see if someone had installed a Strader valve to a keg? I did not find anywhere that someone did that; so: I just made a video on installing a Strader valve to a Corny keg!
I'm a bit OCD and when I couldn't get a solid answer, I purchased the keg and did my own comparisons. Still a great keg, just not 5 gallons. I'm not 100% sure why you would want a Schrader valve but please feel free to send me a link to the video or post it here. Thank You as now, I'm really intrested.
It’s okay to support several homebrew stores.
Fully agree.
Good info. I just checked my mid-sized Torpedo kegs. The label says "10L / 2.6 gallons" but retailers often label them as "2.5 gallons" for some reason. I was pleasantly surprised to find that they max out at around 2.92 gallons all the way to the rim or around 2.8 with room to put a lid in place. I am pretty sure the Torpedo kegs are all made in China. I would say the quality of my kegs is okay but there are some minor issues. I guess that is why the Italian made kegs are often priced $20 more. I am not aware of any kegs made in the US. I agree that the price is hard to swallow...it is about $5 more to move from 1.5 gal to 2.5 gal to 5 gal. My beer fridge only has room for three 5-gallon kegs, so now I can put four 2.6-gallon kegs and one 5-gallon keg in there.
Thanks for the info as I have heard that most of the Torpedo kegs (non-slimline) have lots of extra space inside of them which is why I was shocked the slimline didn't have at least the 5 gallons it states. As for not made in the U.S. ...I think you are right as I looked all over both kegs and can't see where they were made, which leads me to believe they are all made in China if they don't state where they were made like yours that says made in Italy.
Another well presented video, but as a Brit, do you know what's even worse? When 5 gallons isn't even 5 gallons. I mean imagine if I asked for 5 gallons of beer and only got 19 litres instead of 23 litres! Whaaaat?! 😆
I really should have included the liter issues but maybe I could redo the video and spin it from a Liter perspective. 😂🍻 Cheers
How did you judge the closed transfer volume? Do you use stock length gas tubes? I cut mine down to flush with the keg to hold more volume. Can't believe torpedo released new expensive kegs under the rated volume. Cross them off the list of future purchase.
I mentioned in the video that I didn't actually do the closed transfer but measured how much liquid fit based on the lid's space requirements. (Also mentioned I could be off by as much as 1 oz but even if I gave them 1 full ounce it wouldn't have helped.) I was disappointed as they are very nice looking but between that and the missing o-ring, I have some concerns about quality assurance.
This is just a guess but it sounds like the one pop up might be missing the inner O ring also, that might be why it's sticking out of the top of the pop up.
I was so excited when you mentioned that as I thought you were probably dead on for that and I ran downstairs a few minutes ago and checked. Nope, only the top o-ring is missing but I checked both posts to ensure everything else was good. I did take notice that the liquid and airside tubes under the posts have an extra bit of metal flaring out and the one on the liquid side was slightly uneven and a bit sharp...very strange and I'm not sure I like the flaring as it seems like a fix that could wear out over time but I will have to test it and keep an eye on it. I did grab a spare o-ring and fix the one post that came missing the original o-ring when I received it.
Great info. Too bad there isn't a regulatory requirement to mark the vessels with "usable" capacity with the original configuration, i.e. dip tube. The usable capacity might be decreased depending on the float-type dip tube that is used. Hmmm maybe an idea for a future video. Cheers!
That is a good idea as back in the day computer monitors were measured diagonally from outer tube edge to outer tube edge but had a black non-usable area so a 14" monitor might only give you a 13" usable picture. A crazy guy in Cali filed a lawsuit in the early 90's and made everyone measure from the edge of the usable image which helped consumers a lot when it came to comparing computer monitors. All of the kegs did have their thin long SS metal dip tubes installed so that didn't take up much space. You do have me thinking about how I could do another video referencing "usable space" for kegs.
Have you looked at the norther brewer brand keg. The only draw backs from them is one handle and you need to use keg lube to seal everything. I haven’t experimented with is it truly 5 gallons or under 5 gallons. It’s supposed to be 5 gallons. If you like that torpedo keg because of a cut out you would like to know the Brewer brand keg it don’t have the top handle part. The used ones do but there Brand Pacific ones don’t
Sorry for the late reply as I researched it the day you mentioned it but it seems the Northern Brewer brand has lots of minor seal issues according to the reviews which is a bit frustating.
@@BitterRealityBrewing I have a whole desk draw full of keg lube for that very reason other then that it’s good product. Norther brewer has great grains but there product line needs major work
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Here is one of two videos about the Strader Valve installation. In a nut shell: I do not use CO2 anymore and really only used it for topping off my kegs. All the gas (CO2) that I need is made by the yeast inside the keg. Hope that helps anyone that uses kegs and run out of CO2 and stop using CO2 because this idea HELPED me convert. :) 😄
Thanks for the video, do you buy New kegs or used ? I really like the new Duotight Ball lock Quick Discount part # DUO150 and DUO151, they look great for confined spaces or stacking. I grabbed a few weeks ago but I see they're already out of stock at Morebeer.
Although most of my kegs have some age on them already, 8 - 5 gallon corny kegs were purchased new, 2 - 5 gallon purchased used (rough shape but seal without issues), the 2 small kegs you see in the video which were purchased new and the Torpedo Keg 4.875 gallon keg was recently purchased new too. As for the new Duotight Ball Lock quick disconnects...I like them a lot as I bought a few from China (they shipped from NY) and then I grabbed a few more from Morebeer within a day or two of them posting on their site. Currently, I have 8 of the new liquid side ones and 2 airside ones for now. I really love how small they are and they seem very solid.
I'm not a fan of torpedo kegs specifically with the use of floating dip tubes
The seals on the posts aren't universal and they leak when I swap out a shorter dip tube with a standard EPDM O ring. However, when I substituted with a spare "Old Ale" post I was able to get a seal.
I also don't like the dimple at the bottom for floating diptubes as there is also some wasted space there.
Never buying one of those again, sticking with the AIHB Old Ale Kegs
Shockingly I didn't have a problem with the posts until very recently and had to replace one. I'm very temped to replace the other one too. The first one was leaking badly as it kept catching on the edges with its flared top. I have a ton of Old Ale Kegs, and prefer them as my go to kegs.
Wouldn’t you want to only fill until the beer level was just BELOW the CO2 inlet tube?
Yep, that is what I did for all of the tests. I filled to the point that the lid was able to be inserted without hitting the liquid which was just about at the edge of the CO2 inlets and then to see if they were measure the total volume (not as practical in use) I measured to the point you could still close them up but you would dip the lid into whatever liquid was in your keg. I really do like the Torpedo Kegs, I just wish they would actually hold 5 gallons plus I had a few really minor issues, like missing an o-ring and part of the handle was bent a bit (not easily bent back).
I brewed at a tiny one barrel brewery in my hometown and we used mostly torpedo kegs both 5 gallon and 15 gallon corny kegs and loved them. We had no problems with them.
As I mentioned in the video that the regular 5-gallon Torpedo Kegs supposedly hold at least 5 gallons and supposedly a bit more but the Slim Line version doesn't hold 5 Gallons and it is stamped with 19 L - 5 U.S. Gallons but can only hold 4.875 U.S. Gallons max. I like the keg overall but was disappointed to see the capacity isn't as advertised.
@@BitterRealityBrewing that’s disappointing because they are in my opinion really good kegs especially for homebrewing.
@@wrayzor97 Agreed.
Totally agree with you on the keg size thing. I regret my purchase of 3 kegs that are 2.5 gallons. Unless you can fit a smaller keg on the compressor hump and want the extra beer on tap there's no reason to pay the same money or in my case more for a smaller keg.
I was thinking when our new house is built that I could set up a fridge with 16 mini-kegs which I might still do but it is hard to spend almost the same amount for a 1+ Gallon vs a 5 Gallon keg. So at the moment I'm leaning towards an 8 - 5 gallon keg setup and just doing smaller batches in some of those kegs when running tests.
I got all my kegs from adventures in home brewing.
New or used, they do run a lot of sales.
@@charleschapman2428 used. It does not make sense right now for me to buy new
All of my regular 5 gallon corny kegs were bought from AIH (8 total) and 2 refurbs from AIH but those are a bit on the rough side.
Did you say your corney keg is rated for 180 psi?!
It has been a while since I did this video. I read it off the side of the keg, and although I'd have to watch the video to remember what I said, this may be the one where it was rated for 130 psi, but it looked like it said 180 psi as it is etched into the SS.
Maybe the torpedo keg is rated like a wooden barrel ... 10L does not hold 10L but instead it displaces 10L of space...
Scary thought but who knows what someone could have been thinking. Maybe the manufacturer made a slight change over a year ago and no one noticed it or tested it.
The Torpedo Slims are gimmicks to allow you to get 4 "full" kegs in a 7 cu ft keezer...yeah - you're missing a beer - get over it. If you try to get the AIH kegs in the same keezer, you can only get 3...just a little too pudgy. Great content! BTW - nothing stops you from getting 3 AIH kegs and a Torpy slim in there...just put the Double Imperial Stout in the slim...you need a bottle to save for long term conditioning anyway! I wanna stack 2 3 gallon kegs in my keezer vertically. Cheers!
Good point but I still feel a "5 U.S. Gallon" rated keg should hold at least 5 U.S. Gallons. And I'm all about squeezing as many kegs into a keezer or like cooler as possible. 🍻😀🍻 Cheers!
@@BitterRealityBrewing I understand: "Truth in Advertising"...is king. Have you looked at some of the 2.5 gallon "cocktail" kegs? Those are what some people are using to clean beer lines with. Double duty.
Don't want to sound narky but NONE of the rest of the whole world uses gallons any more. Litres are the go & conversions give me the shits. Same with temps. Always having to carry a calculator sucks.
I agree and I should have mentioned liters as I try but occasionally forget. I do wish I could create different thumbnails based on where someone is logging in from so that way I could have one thumbnail stating a keg might not hold 19 liters as it is stamped and for the U.S. it would show 5 gallons. When I bake bread I use metrics but F for temp as it is more granular. I think things would be easier if we all used Metrics but Fahrenheit for temperatures.