Alfredo Casella - Symphony No.2 in C-minor, Op.12 (1909)

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  • Alfredo Casella (25 July 1883 - 5 March 1947) was an Italian composer, pianist and conductor.
    Work: Symphony No.2 in C-minor, Op.12 (1909)
    Mov.I: Lento grave solenne - Allegro energico - Allegro moderato assai - Lento - Allegro assai vivace - Tempo I (Allegro energico) - Lento - Allegro mosso 00:00
    Mov.II: Allegro molto vivace - Più allegro 13:23
    Mov.III: Adagio quasi andante 23:51
    Mov.IV: Finale: Tempo di marcia ben risoluto con fuoco - Allegro vivo
    Tempo I (Allegro risoluto) - Epilogo: Adagio mistico 36:51
    Orchestra: Orchestra Sinfonica di Roma
    Conductor: Francesco La Vecchia
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  • @paolopasquini9542
    @paolopasquini9542 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Casella è uno dei grandi musicisti italiani del 900, che gli italiani non conoscono e non ascoltano.

  • @anandsamuel1978
    @anandsamuel1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Monumental is the only word I can find to describe this amazing symphony!

  • @rationallogo
    @rationallogo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I was sitting in the front row under Maestro Gianandrea Noseda in Verizon Hall last night to hear this piece performed by the Philadelphia Orchestra. In my 45 years of listening to concert music I have NEVER been so awe struck at listening to a piece for the first time. Incredibly demanding for the musicians to play, and that second movement...........oh my. Thank you, Maestro Casella, for penning this piece and thank you, Philadelphia Orchestra, for presenting the US World Premier of this symphony.

    • @debberger1532
      @debberger1532 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Rationallogo - we were there too and it was AMAZING! I'm not a lover of all things classical and I was blown away. After it was over all I could say was "What a story! I want to know what that story was!" Came home and researched it. I would go to hear this again!

    • @bomcabedal
      @bomcabedal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@debberger1532 I saw the one in Frankfurt (also on TH-cam) and it's among the three most memorable concerts I've been to.

  • @MrDSCH-ib2mx
    @MrDSCH-ib2mx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I saw this symphony live conducted by my teacher, Yoonsung Chang, on his inaugural concert of the Bucheon Philharmonic Orchestra. Simply extraordinary!! I got goosebumbs all the way!!

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Casella was 26 years old when he wrote this symphony. He strongly supported Mahler, and something Mahlerian can be found in that music, in the epic and rythmic sense. This work is exceptionnally mature in a postromantic style for a still young composer. The general style is epic, heroic and optimistic. Brasses play a great role in the orchestra. Anecdotially, we can note the use of bells.
    This splendid symphony deserves to stay within the repertoire.

  • @lukasmiller486
    @lukasmiller486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Now THAT’S what I call a symphony!

  • @paullewis2413
    @paullewis2413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’ve been listening to so-called classical music since I was around 10/11 years old but have never encountered this composer before. That’s the great thing about TH-cam :-)

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Wonderful symphony, written while his fellow composers wroy=te verist operas !!!! Casella was a great supporter of Gustav Mhler, and that can be retrieved in this symphony, which is not a copy. Simply, Mahler seems to have given him the daring to write such a symphony, which is a masterpiece. Never would we expect such a work from an Italian composer. Wfen you start listening to that symphony, you cannot stop, it is fascinating. The rendering is excellent.

  • @richdisilvio4591
    @richdisilvio4591 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Ultimate & Greatest Italian Symphony ever composed, with Casella's First Symphony close behind.

    • @didierschein8515
      @didierschein8515 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Sinfonia Dramatica of Respighi is wonderful too.

  • @jboushka
    @jboushka หลายเดือนก่อน

    The composer was 26 when he finished this, The concept reminds me of the towering conclusion of Langgaard's massive first symphony (1911) and he was a teenager when he finished it.

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Una sinfonia pienamente italiana,di un compositore italiano.
    Ottima la direzione e l'esecuzione orchestrale.

  • @jorgesavarino7430
    @jorgesavarino7430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Musica impresionante, bella,enérgica,para escuchar mil veces.Poco difundida como siempre.Sino es la de los clásicos no sirve y no se ejecuta.He escuchado además la numero 2 y también me impresiona .Gracias Casella.From Argentina

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can live with saying this was awesome!

  • @mrturtle1128
    @mrturtle1128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has to be one of the best symphonic endings ever. omg.

  • @mikemdoc1
    @mikemdoc1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Beats me that we never hear this performed. Breathtaking

  • @lucianobonomi5291
    @lucianobonomi5291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grande Casella. Mi era quasi sconosciuto. Grazie di averlo postato.

  • @andreykonovalov2324
    @andreykonovalov2324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, that was one hell of a ride!

  • @feraudyh
    @feraudyh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heard this on the radio. Bowled away.

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6 years later I still experiences this work as awesome! It perhaps is a good case for "awesome" not guarantying something going viral. Of course that I believe it is awesome doesn't mean others regard it as awesome. But somebody thought it good enough to record and share with the world.

  • @gildagallerati2264
    @gildagallerati2264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Potente, evocativa, inevitabile il raffronto con Mahler, ma anche con Brahm e forse anche con la nona di Beethoven. Certamente un ritmo innovativo quasi cantabile....bella

  • @antoniocolica8619
    @antoniocolica8619 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Casella un grande del 900 Italiano non conosciuto dai tanti ma apprezzato dagli intenditori .

  • @robertoquirino1438
    @robertoquirino1438 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Solo commenti in lingua inglese? e commenti di ascoltatori italiani? Ogni volta che ascolto per la prima volta composizioni del nostro Novecento rimango stupito per la loro bellezza e per il loro grandissimo spessore culturale, musica per niente provinciale, ma di respiro internazionale.

    • @MegaJanuary2011
      @MegaJanuary2011 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Roberto Quirino سيمفونية غاية في الاعجاز , أروع موسيقي هي الايطالية , انا أعشق كل شيء ايطالي لدينا دار أوبرا في مصر

    • @robertoquirino1438
      @robertoquirino1438 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saecular Egypt, ti ringrazio per l'attenzione...:-)

    • @MegaJanuary2011
      @MegaJanuary2011 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      need translation ? :)

    • @robertoquirino1438
      @robertoquirino1438 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why not? I need traslation!! :-)

    • @MegaJanuary2011
      @MegaJanuary2011 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Roberto Quirino Areally miraculous symphony , the most exquisite music is the Italian , I'm obsessed with everything that is Italian actually , we have more than an Opera house in Egypt

  • @ronaldbwoodall2628
    @ronaldbwoodall2628 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This is an awesome symphony! How Mahlerian can a composer be, and still create a work that is so imbued with his own concept and personality as to make any resemblance above criticism? Casella gives us his convincing answer to that question here. From the menacing first movement through the cataclysmic second, the troubled "adagio", and the apocalyptic/triumphant finale, its' relentless forward motion and kinetic energy is almost overpowering. I'm sure its' full effect can only be experienced in the concert hall, but this great recording is a welcome alternative.

    • @peterbuckley265
      @peterbuckley265 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HI RONALD, WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED. SORRY I CAN NOT USE LOWER CASE DUE TO NOT SO GOOD CLOSE UP EYESIGHT. BRUCKNEY AND RICHARD STRAUSS IN THE MIX AS WELL, BUT I HEAR MORE SOUNDS OF RICHARD STRAUSS THAN MAHLER. LUDVIG NORMAN SWEDISH WROTE EXCELLENT SYMPHONIES VERY MUCH IMBUED BY THE SOUNDSCAPE OF ROBERT SCHUMANN, BUT YOU KNOW IT IS INDIVIDUAL AND NOT BY SCHUMANN !!, THERE WERE MANY FIRST CLASS COMPOSERS IN DENMARK, FINLAND, NORWAY AND SWEDEN, BUT MOSTLY ALL ARE NEGLECTED DESPITE COMPOSING AMONGST THE VERY BEST SYMPHONIES OF ALL TIME, LIKE CARL ATTERBERG AND TURE RANGSTROM. FERDINAND RIES A LIFE TIME HELPER TO L V BEETHOVEN WROTE MANY FIRST CLASS SYMPHONIES AND PIANO CONCERTOS VERY MUCH IN STYLE LIKE BEETHOVEN, BUT YOU KNOW IT IS NOT BEETHOVENS MUSIC !!!., PETER TEMP IN A WHEELCHAIR, HAVING LOST MY LEFT LEG UP TOO MY KNEE LAST YEAR DUE TO POLIO AND RHEUMATIC FEVER AT AGE 8, UPPER CLAPTON, NORTH EAST LONDON.

    • @1lekhine
      @1lekhine 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      More R.Strauss than Mahler. I'm agree Mr.Peter.
      A little of 2 symphony "Auferstehung" in terms of impact brasses at the Mahlerian way for sure.

    • @jrbleau
      @jrbleau 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1lekhine I hear a lot of the end of Mahler's 9th at the end (and elsewhere) of this symphony, and this one came out a tad earlier.

    • @peterbuckley265
      @peterbuckley265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOST OTHER LOWER LEG AUG 2018.

  • @jackwilmoresongs
    @jackwilmoresongs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This must be for me the best Italian symphony I've heard so far.

  • @ekaterinalekkas2356
    @ekaterinalekkas2356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How lovely!

  • @kustlerpiano3355
    @kustlerpiano3355 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MONUMENTAL;;;OBRA FANTÁSTICA!!!

  • @marsaeolus9248
    @marsaeolus9248 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a fantastic symphony! Terrific!

  • @robertj2353
    @robertj2353 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hervorragend! Warum habe ich so lange warten müssen, bevor ich von diesem Mahlerschüler gehört habe?

    • @vexator19
      @vexator19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ich habe mir die gleiche Frage gestellt.

  • @stefansimon-autor4602
    @stefansimon-autor4602 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just great! What a discovery! Thanks for uploading!

  • @gustavoantonioalvaradoavel7277
    @gustavoantonioalvaradoavel7277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Que gran sinfonía. En el momento justo.

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This symphony is absolutely awesome from teh beginning to thr rnd. The influence of Mahler is obvious, but we do not find these extatic moments nither these prseudo-folkloric themes that we find in Mahler's work. It is indeed a versy great and consistent symphony.

    • @nikolai5012
      @nikolai5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you please add some more typos to your comment?

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nikolai5012 Dear friend, could you please answer to me in French which id my native language, and without any typos, needless to say? Bolchoïe spatsiba, Tovarich Nikolai

    • @nikolai5012
      @nikolai5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gerardbegni2806 Oui

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely stunning!

  • @mobyt.3900
    @mobyt.3900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic, visual music, would be great for a movie soundtrack!

  • @user-ys8rs4zo9e
    @user-ys8rs4zo9e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    교향곡을 듣는 폭이 이 곡에서 확 넓혀 졌답니다. 한마디로 원더풀이예요!!!

  • @jpdemers44
    @jpdemers44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quel musicien que ce Casella!

  • @charlesmchugh8811
    @charlesmchugh8811 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for uploading this wonderful symphony. Why is this so neglected by orchestras? It's riveting right from the opening bars.

  • @Wandelbart
    @Wandelbart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you like this symphony you might also like Strauss' Salome, Zemlinsky's Eine Florentinische Tragödie, Schönberg's Pelleas und Melisande op. 5, Schönberg's Orchesterlieder op. 8, Schreker's Chamber Symphony, Szymanowski's Symphony No. 2.

  • @misterb5073
    @misterb5073 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy crap- I'm a lifelong Mahler lover and this work is incredibly close to Mahler's middle period in which he wrote his 5, 6th and 7th symphonies. The similarities in dramatic intensity, orchestral color and instrumentation are amazing. This is a wonderful piece.. Does anyone else see the similarities?

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are perfectly right. It is not only a feeling. The similarities with Mahler are obvious. Casella was a strong supporter of Mahler. Mahler has been an essential step in Casella's research of a language of his own. I suggest you to listen to the third symphony, written more than 30 years later. You will find a neoclassical language, which ahs nothing to see with this one.

  • @bryangl1
    @bryangl1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I agree with all the enthusiastic comments as to the magnificence of this music and also wonder why it remains virtually unknown. (If any criticism can be leveled at this work it is that it could be considered by some to be a bit 'overblown'.) There is only one live performance on TH-cam (from Frankfurt) and while the performance is excellent it has been uploaded with relatively poor technical quality (vision and sound). As to influences by other composers, the composer I 'hear' most often is Korngold, mainly his serious work, but there's one section that would sit well with the score for 'Robin Hood', and other sections are very 'filmic' in terms of the better Hollywood composers of the 1940's. Of course this work predates those composers so they could hardly be 'influences', perhaps it is rather they were influenced by the same composers that influenced Casella (and it's unlikely that Korngold, for example, was familiar with Casella) - it's just that I found the similarities to be striking.

  • @ancientapparition1638
    @ancientapparition1638 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks philly.

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This composer brought a little light, wonder and humor into a period of obscurity and weariness in my life. Listening to it many years later, my sensitivity and admiration I felt for it grew. A difficult listening at first, he lends the orchestral direction of his flayed intelligence, until he draws you inevitably into his universe. Each listening reveals a little more of its mystery, its magic, so this work becomes ineluctably timeless “Imperial”

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A questo punto è migliore il primo Casella che quello della Giara e dei Pupazzetti!

  • @christopherthorkon3997
    @christopherthorkon3997 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my goodness!

  • @eldrake35
    @eldrake35 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This moment at 35:12 is so incredibly soft.

  • @trevorcorso5994
    @trevorcorso5994 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U.S. premiere end of October in Philadelphia with their orchestra.

    • @trevorcorso5994
      @trevorcorso5994 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +trevor corso Sorry end of November.

    • @peterbuckley265
      @peterbuckley265 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHAT DATE, VENUE, ORCHESTRA AND CONDUCTOR PLEASE ???.

  • @enzoselva888
    @enzoselva888 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow

  • @hrach8420
    @hrach8420 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great symphony and also the painting,btw, who is a painter?

    • @LectroBer
      @LectroBer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appears to be a digital painting by Max Qin. I think it's titled The Perfect Storm.

    • @darrylschultz6479
      @darrylschultz6479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not a painter.

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drops into Bernard Herrmann mode at 2:07.

  • @hardrada2620
    @hardrada2620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrific score--stunning painting. What is it?

  • @paulmarkmartin3713
    @paulmarkmartin3713 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    WWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

  • @ghuinink
    @ghuinink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    listening to the harmony and orchestration i must conclude it's way more R. Strauss influenced than Mahler. almost the Alpine Symphony sometimes.

    • @piedho
      @piedho ปีที่แล้ว

      After 10 seconds of listening I exactly thought the same thing! Very Straussian in sound, orchestration, harmony, melody, rhythm,modulation and detailing.

  • @bricecoustillas2176
    @bricecoustillas2176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a strange picture… what is it?

  • @LucasHagemans
    @LucasHagemans 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    38:15 Mahler 2

  • @DavidA-ps1qr
    @DavidA-ps1qr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An epic symphony, NOT however to be confused or associated with anything Mahler ever wrote. This youthful symphony shows tenancies towards neo-classicism coupled with Casella's post romantic era. Splendid ostinatos and rhythmical modulations combine to produce a symphony of true stature that is sadly neglected today.

  • @giannidifrischia3374
    @giannidifrischia3374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Orgoglio Italiano!! Compositore e pianista di gran vaglia, ascoltare gli Studi op. 70, ad es., eseguiti dal Mo. Luca Ballerini.

  • @LucasHagemans
    @LucasHagemans 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    48:03 Saint-Seans sym 3

  • @irekmichal2005
    @irekmichal2005 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    More Strauss then some of Strauss pieces😜

    • @jackwilmoresongs
      @jackwilmoresongs 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Iker michalsson "More (Richard) Strauss than Richard Strauss" describes a couple of symphonies by George Enescu (say 2,3,4). Or I think of Langstrom's 1rst symphony or Furtwangler's couple of ultra Romantic symphonies. They pushed Strauss's style beyond him IMO.

  • @jamesdeaville9731
    @jamesdeaville9731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As if Mahler and Strauss were merged into one orchestral canvas.

  • @maxlinder5262
    @maxlinder5262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luv the painting 🎨😍.....who painted it ????

  • @saifnakhleh9410
    @saifnakhleh9410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    he shoulda called this the pirate symphony. screams "IT'S A PIRATE'S LIFE FOR ME" all the way through lmao

  • @Wandelbart
    @Wandelbart 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not so familiar with Mahler. That's why I will not mention him here. Neither that I hear Mahler nor that I don't hear him. I only know the 10th symphony - the unfinished. I like some parts of it but I don't know if they are the ones which were composed by Mahler or by the guy who finished the symphony.

    • @andrewpetersen5272
      @andrewpetersen5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess you should listen to more Mahler. You are missing out.

    • @Wandelbart
      @Wandelbart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewpetersen5272 Okay, I did my homework half a year ago. Yet I stopped because I found his first symphonies too long. Did anybody make suites of them?

    • @Wandelbart
      @Wandelbart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewpetersen5272 Now I hear why my sister said Schönberg's op. 8 was influenced by Mahler.

    • @andrewpetersen5272
      @andrewpetersen5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Wandelbart I hope you listening pleasure is not dependent on the duration of a piece. I don't recall any recording of Mahler highlights collection.

    • @Wandelbart
      @Wandelbart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewpetersen5272 You're right. My listening pleasure is not dependent on the duration but on the density and processing.

  • @aramkhachaturian8043
    @aramkhachaturian8043 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second movement is reaaaaally slow.......

  • @peterlim5730
    @peterlim5730 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    such poignancy!

  • @spidertube1000
    @spidertube1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone here definitely took heavy inspiration from Mahler...

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Praticamente sconosciuto,come altri musicisti italiani dell'epoca ,perché considerati fascisti.
    Vi rendete conto ? Incredibile ma vero.

    • @Camolismo
      @Camolismo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In realtà hanno fatto sparire tutti i musicisti italiani, fascisti, non fascisti, comunisti. Cancellati. Mailpiero, Petrassi, Dallapiccola, tutti, e non parliamo dei contemporanei. Tutti sconosciuti (in Italia). E' uno schifo.

    • @paolozignani
      @paolozignani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Non scherziamo, Casella è nella storia della musica ed è studiato. A me le fazioni politiche non dicono nulla. La cultura musicale di Casella era chiaramente mitteleuropea: gli italiani si sa stravedevano per l’opera lirica, come anche oggi. Non riducetelo a una bandierina, per favore. Ci sono anche diversi compositori tedeschi trascurati ma di valore. È l’effetto del mercato e di una mentalità davvero sbagliata, che fa eseguire solo i musicisti di maggior richiamo

  • @lemmyhawkwind38
    @lemmyhawkwind38 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kim bu İnsanlar

  • @algr665
    @algr665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Casella was a Mussolini admirer.

    • @aldobadiani5760
      @aldobadiani5760 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the fine musicological analysis.

    • @ValzainLumivix
      @ValzainLumivix ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok.

    • @algr665
      @algr665 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Clive Lamdin Different world? My parents were born in Italy and lived there during that time so they know about the Nazi lovers.

  • @beowulfschefing7697
    @beowulfschefing7697 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure which piece everyone else is listening too but I am hearing second rate Wagner, Zemlinsky with a splash of R Strauss. Interesting though none the less.

    • @aldobadiani5760
      @aldobadiani5760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting chronology. Von Zemlinsky is contemporaneous to Casella and all his major works (and the ones Beowulf Schefing - nomen omen - is probably referring to) were composed after 1909. As far as 'second rate' Wagner is concerned, the same meaningless accusation could be levelled to Bruckner, Brahms, Mahler, Strauss, etc.

    • @beowulfschefing7697
      @beowulfschefing7697 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aldobadiani5760 I don't agree with your last comment about Bruckner et al but I do find this work a bit shoddy and hamfisted rather than skilful and we'll wrought like those you have mentioned. I am wanting to like and enjoy this but find there are too many ghosts to contend with instead of a wholey individual voice.

    • @user-eb4ep4mq7f
      @user-eb4ep4mq7f 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Сама.заставка.уже.дает.комментарий

  • @idontgivea1769
    @idontgivea1769 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too pompous, no thanks..