I just wanted to give a big thanks to you for providing so many great resources on orchestration. Orchestration has always been very intimidating to me over the years I've been doing music and your channel has allowed me to approach it with more confidence. Cheers for that!
I’m currently collecting some ,,typical” woodwind passages in John Williams music, there are many but you can see some of them here and there, not runs, but specific phrases. That would be really interesting topic!
Wow, your tutorial is TH-cam gold. This is a great overview of instruments. Thank you so much for the midi files. We can experiment and try to work out what you did. The subtle changes you made to the 2nd track made it so much fuller and richer. How you turned the 1st piece into the 2nd one would make a good tutorial for beginners.
Thank you foe the video, Christopher! I was always shy about adding woodwinds and bras in my projects (maybe I love strings WAY TOO much) and only recently I started to add percussion. Doubling subject is so important, I think I always neglected it. Very sad times here. But I will try my best to fix this! Thanks again! 😇
This is the best video I have ever seen on this topic! Well done, Chris! You earned my first ever youtube comment :-) Thanks for sharing this tutorial. It is quite important subject in orchestration. Keep it up!
Hey Nadav, thanks man. Especially nowadays, I tend to batch record when I’m in a groove, then schedule them to go up. For the longest time I was recording weekly. Let me know if you have other video suggestions!!
Hey Chris! This is one of your best yet, thank you so much! I just wanted to say that the instrument volume overall is lower than your voice throughout and makes it hard to hear the lovely examples a lot of the time. It must sound fine in the headphones as you’re recording, but the visual levels in Logic might help you visualise the lower output in the future which would be a great help! Thanks again.
aaa, such a great subject! thanks so much! This subject is fascinating and you've made many great observations! I think this fills out a much needed void with the last more serious video I can remember seeing on this being an older video from Cinesamples. Thanks a lot, hope you'll make more on the subject! Should you do so maybe if you could put the instruments higher volume please.
This is a wonderful video, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. You are an excellent teacher. On a side note, I would enjoy seeing a video of you just casually composing.
Thank you Ethan! That's definitely on the list, once I figure how to actually stream properly, haha. I do have start-to-finish videos on my channel though, if you're interested.
Hi. I have a question. When I use Legato woodwinds(only thing I have tested this far) ..in Nucleus. The second note is 5dB louder than the first. So it's literally unusable. Sounds like a massive accent. Any workaround? This is resolved by not overlapping the notes, but in turn losing the legato.. The library is a bit expensive for this horrendous Legato imo.
Chris you channel is wonderful and I love this video. I also really enjoy your posts on vi-control where I'm quite active as well. Just one minor constructive criticism about this video: the sound of the instruments is significantly quieter than your voice. What this means is that if I raise the volume up enough to be at a level that feels sufficiently loud to properly hear the instruments then your voice will be blaring. I've noticed this in some of your other vids as well so just something to keep in mind going forward! Otherwise, really great stuff though. Keep it up!
A good rule of thumb, is that for pure blend similar colors or registers blend better. One of the two instruments reaching an extreme register will make the blend sound more intense (for example in an unison between Violin and Cello the cello is most likely to be reaching it's upper register which is more intense. This also makes the cello dominate). Of course there are exceptions based on the instruments which need to be considered (the flute's lower register is less loud, the oboes low register is louder, horns get thinner in the top register, etc, etc). It's a good idea to read some instrumentation books (or you can check the Rimsky Korsakov's book turned into an online course. it's probably still out there).
Nice, using orchestras give an entirely new world of possibilities for my music since I don’t often use them :D Found the woodwind section combo to be most interesting
One thing I noticed in this video-and that I read in Samuel Adlers orchestration book-is that unison doublings make both instruments lose their colour and individuality. I read it was common in Berlioz's time but outdated now. When would you say unison doublings are appropriate? Great video btw
Great question, there’s always a trade off! Solo means more exposed and intimate, while unison doubling adds a more gentle approach and more warmth, depending on the instrument. I always use my ears to determine what I like better for a specific situation.
I am a beginner in scoring for orchestras and I wanted to know if I should get Albion one first or Nucleus first. I hear that Albion one is a great way to get into orchestral music but what are your thoughts?
Albion ONE is a great general-purpose orchestra with ensembles, as well as some sound design. Nucleus contains ensembles and soloists, which sound wonderful. I would listen to the demos and go with which one you like the sound and workflow of better!
I just wanted to give a big thanks to you for providing so many great resources on orchestration. Orchestration has always been very intimidating to me over the years I've been doing music and your channel has allowed me to approach it with more confidence. Cheers for that!
You're very welcome Henrik!
Damn I was legit looking into a video that could explain this and here you're making the most comprehensive one on this topic. Sick !
You got it man!
A regular Samuel Adler ("The Study of Orchestration")
This new batch of videos you're doing is really great!
Thanks Walter! Always open to more suggestions :)
Hi Christopher! Giving us the audio examples clarified a lot! Thanks for posting. Very helpful vid!!!
Always a pleasure Raymond!
Outstanding Christopher.
Cheers Joel!
Yes! Such an important subject, yet very often neglected in music education. Thanks!
Thanks Jakub! Much more to come. Do you have any suggestions?
I’m currently collecting some ,,typical” woodwind passages in John Williams music, there are many but you can see some of them here and there, not runs, but specific phrases. That would be really interesting topic!
Fantastic video .... thanks for making it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great, great lesson. Many thanks!!!!!!!!!
So welcome!
This is helping me SO much! Thank you thank you thank you!
I'm so glad!
Extremely useful information and great examples also!
Yeah, thank you ! That was really helpful. I love clarinets and violas in unison, it blends so well.
You're very welcome! Yes, that's a beautiful combination.
Wow, your tutorial is TH-cam gold. This is a great overview of instruments.
Thank you so much for the midi files. We can experiment and try to work out what you did.
The subtle changes you made to the 2nd track made it so much fuller and richer.
How you turned the 1st piece into the 2nd one would make a good tutorial for beginners.
Glad it was helpful! You're very welcome :)
Thank you foe the video, Christopher! I was always shy about adding woodwinds and bras in my projects (maybe I love strings WAY TOO much) and only recently I started to add percussion.
Doubling subject is so important, I think I always neglected it. Very sad times here. But I will try my best to fix this!
Thanks again! 😇
Glad it was helpful!
This is a very VERY informative and wonderful video.
Thanks for creating and sharing this.
Glad it was helpful! It's my pleasure.
Thank you for this very comprehensive video.
Glad it was helpful!
Great as usual...! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Thank you very much...! 🙏🏻
Thank you!
Great video man!! Quick, to the point, and I can instantly apply what I learned from this video. Thank you!
Glad it helped!
Excellent video! What sound library is this?
This is the best video I have ever seen on this topic! Well done, Chris! You earned my first ever youtube comment :-) Thanks for sharing this tutorial. It is quite important subject in orchestration. Keep it up!
Cheers, thanks so much!
This will be one of my favorite videos forever, I will keep coming back many times during my writing. Thanks for uploading!
Wow, thank you!
This is just what I wanted to learn today - thank you! I will apply these tips to my work :)
You're so welcome!
Dude you are dropping gold! Do you recording these weekly or have you backlogged heaps of content?
Hey Nadav, thanks man. Especially nowadays, I tend to batch record when I’m in a groove, then schedule them to go up. For the longest time I was recording weekly.
Let me know if you have other video suggestions!!
Got some new ideas for my track, thanks 👍👍
Glad to help Tore!
Hey Chris! This is one of your best yet, thank you so much! I just wanted to say that the instrument volume overall is lower than your voice throughout and makes it hard to hear the lovely examples a lot of the time. It must sound fine in the headphones as you’re recording, but the visual levels in Logic might help you visualise the lower output in the future which would be a great help! Thanks again.
Noted, thanks Oliver!
I love how you did the cut clap but didn't cut!! Thanks for the Infos those are really really helpfull
😅 totallyyy intentional. Anyway thanks man.
@@ChristopherSiu xD
I'm so glad I found your channel. Another great video!
Thank you!
Great vidéo thank you !
My pleasure!
That trumpet and horn. Is it really practical to write in that range? Especially if you don’t want it to be incredibly loud?
Amazing, just what i needed!
Great to hear!
aaa, such a great subject! thanks so much! This subject is fascinating and you've made many great observations! I think this fills out a much needed void with the last more serious video I can remember seeing on this being an older video from Cinesamples.
Thanks a lot, hope you'll make more on the subject! Should you do so maybe if you could put the instruments higher volume please.
Glad you enjoyed it! Noted, thank you!
This is a wonderful video, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. You are an excellent teacher. On a side note, I would enjoy seeing a video of you just casually composing.
Thank you Ethan! That's definitely on the list, once I figure how to actually stream properly, haha. I do have start-to-finish videos on my channel though, if you're interested.
@@ChristopherSiu Those videos are the first ones of yours that I watched, and where the reason that I subscribed.
Super helpful!
So glad!
Hi. I have a question. When I use Legato woodwinds(only thing I have tested this far) ..in Nucleus. The second note is 5dB louder than the first. So it's literally unusable. Sounds like a massive accent. Any workaround? This is resolved by not overlapping the notes, but in turn losing the legato.. The library is a bit expensive for this horrendous Legato imo.
Thank you very much for this interesting video. For some reason I feel like you have made this especially for me :-).
My pleasure! Trust me I did :)
@@ChristopherSiu you are so helpful :-)
Outstanding ...
Thanks Joe :)
Chris you channel is wonderful and I love this video. I also really enjoy your posts on vi-control where I'm quite active as well. Just one minor constructive criticism about this video: the sound of the instruments is significantly quieter than your voice. What this means is that if I raise the volume up enough to be at a level that feels sufficiently loud to properly hear the instruments then your voice will be blaring. I've noticed this in some of your other vids as well so just something to keep in mind going forward! Otherwise, really great stuff though. Keep it up!
Thanks for the feedback Tim!
Excellent video, especially for a novice composer like me. Thank you very much, I really learnt a lot about combinations.
You're very welcome!
love this!
Thank you!
A good rule of thumb, is that for pure blend similar colors or registers blend better. One of the two instruments reaching an extreme register will make the blend sound more intense (for example in an unison between Violin and Cello the cello is most likely to be reaching it's upper register which is more intense. This also makes the cello dominate). Of course there are exceptions based on the instruments which need to be considered (the flute's lower register is less loud, the oboes low register is louder, horns get thinner in the top register, etc, etc). It's a good idea to read some instrumentation books (or you can check the Rimsky Korsakov's book turned into an online course. it's probably still out there).
Good recommendations!
I would like to know the combination between orchestra and (tonal) percussions. This video was very helpful!
Glad it was helpful! Good idea.
Nice, using orchestras give an entirely new world of possibilities for my music since I don’t often use them :D Found the woodwind section combo to be most interesting
Thanks man :)
One thing I noticed in this video-and that I read in Samuel Adlers orchestration book-is that unison doublings make both instruments lose their colour and individuality. I read it was common in Berlioz's time but outdated now. When would you say unison doublings are appropriate?
Great video btw
Great question, there’s always a trade off! Solo means more exposed and intimate, while unison doubling adds a more gentle approach and more warmth, depending on the instrument. I always use my ears to determine what I like better for a specific situation.
Is anyone having trouble downloading the .mid file? I keep getting "There was an error downloading your file"
Rimsky-Korsakov 👍
Yes!
Very Helpful? Thanks. (Which orchestra samples are you using?)
Thanks Mac. I'm using Berlin Woodwinds and Berlin Brass for this video.
Which libraries did you use for this Christopher?
Hi Jim! I used Cinematic Studio Strings, Berlin Woodwinds, and Berlin Brass :)
I am a beginner in scoring for orchestras and I wanted to know if I should get Albion one first or Nucleus first.
I hear that Albion one is a great way to get into orchestral music but what are your thoughts?
Albion ONE is a great general-purpose orchestra with ensembles, as well as some sound design. Nucleus contains ensembles and soloists, which sound wonderful. I would listen to the demos and go with which one you like the sound and workflow of better!
Christopher Siu Thank you for the feedback!
Nice!
Thanks!
sup
Nice!
Thanks!