Hi Tom, what would you advice for HT - 1 single unit of F112 or 2 units of E112? The room size is 12 ft wide 16 ft length and 10 ft height. I am running on 7.1.4 at the moment with a single unit of Revel Performa B15a. I am thinking of replacing Revel with JL Audi subs. Thanks.
@@KSYee-t4t Deep Dive: JL Audio Subwoofers and Their Suitability for Home Theater I want to start by saying I love JL subwoofers. I have them in my showroom and in my personal home theater. I use the inwall product in my showroom and dual F112s in my personal theater. The Fathom is a reference level product. The most important difference between the Fathom and the E series is the advanced Digital Automatic Room Optimization (D.A.R.O.) This lets you adjust the sub to fit the room. JL Audio Subwoofers: • Fathom F112: Known for its precision and sheer output, the F112 features a 12-inch driver with a massive motor system, delivering deep, articulate bass. It’s a sealed subwoofer, which means it’s designed for tight, accurate low-frequency reproduction. It’s powered by a 1,500-watt RMS amplifier, and its advanced Digital Automatic Room Optimization (D.A.R.O.) ensures it can adapt to room acoustics effectively. • E112: A more affordable option in JL Audio’s lineup, the E112 also features a 12-inch driver but with a slightly less powerful 1,200-watt RMS amplifier. It provides excellent bass output and clarity but lacks the Fathom’s advanced room calibration features like D.A.R.O. Despite this, the E112 is a strong performer, especially in dual configurations. Key Factors for Your Room and System: 1. Room Size (1,920 cubic feet): o At this size, a single high-performance subwoofer like the F112 can produce sufficient SPL (sound pressure level) and extension for impactful bass. You can always add a second subwoofer if you feel the need. o However, dual subwoofers (E112 pair) can provide smoother bass response by mitigating room modes and ensuring more consistent low-frequency distribution across the room. 2. Listening Preferences: o If your priority is ultra-precise bass with advanced room correction and a focus on reference-level performance, the F112 is hard to beat. o If you value room-filling bass with smoother distribution at a similar cost, dual E112 units might be the better choice. Recommendation: My recommendation depends on how you answer the following question: Criteria for Acoustical Performance (Audio Quality) Audio Performance Requirements (please choose one): ❑ Excellent (suitable for critical music listening; near-studio quality) ❑ Very Good (good for film soundtracks; good for music but not suitable for critical listening) ❑ Adequate (subordinate to aesthetic criteria) If you answer Excellent or Very Good, get the Fathom F112 it is a superior sub to the E-112. If, down the road, you feel the need, you can add a second Fathom. Yes, I understand that the Fathom is a lot more money, but it is worth it! Thank you for your question and best wishes this holiday season! Regards, Tom
The JL Audio E112 home subwoofer and the W7 car audio subwoofer share some DNA in terms of engineering excellence, but they are not the same and are purpose-built for vastly different applications. Here’s a breakdown: Key Differences Between E112 and W7: 1. Purpose and Design Philosophy: E112 (Home Subwoofer): Designed for home audio and theater applications where sound quality, accuracy, and room integration are critical. Prioritizes tight, controlled bass with low distortion and a frequency response optimized for reproducing music and cinematic effects. Incorporates features like a built-in amplifier (1,200 watts RMS) and sealed enclosure for precise bass response in living spaces. W7 (Car Audio Subwoofer): Engineered for car audio systems, focusing on high-output, impact, and the ability to operate in a noisy, small cabin environment. Features proprietary technologies like DMA (Dynamic Motor Analysis) and OverRoll™ surrounds to handle extreme excursion and high SPL (sound pressure levels). Requires an external amplifier and is commonly used in vented or sealed enclosures designed for car acoustics. 2. Power and Amplification: E112: Self-contained with an integrated 1,200-watt RMS amplifier. Tuned to match the driver and enclosure perfectly, ensuring optimal performance in a home setting. W7: Requires a separate external amplifier (power recommendations vary by model, e.g., 500-1,000 watts RMS for the 12W7). Its power needs are tailored for car audio systems, often designed to run on 12V electrical systems. 3. Enclosure Design: E112: Housed in a sealed, acoustically optimized cabinet for clean, tight bass without resonances. Designed for home audio room acoustics, with aesthetics to blend into living spaces. W7: Requires a custom-built enclosure (sealed or vented) tailored to specific car audio setups. The design allows for high-output bass in the confined space of a car cabin.\ 4. Frequency Response and Performance: E112: Extended low-frequency response, often dipping below 20 Hz, optimized for music and movie LFE (Low-Frequency Effects). Prioritizes fidelity and flat response. W7: Focused on producing punchy, impactful bass at higher SPL levels, tailored to car cabin acoustics. Not designed for ultra-deep bass extension but excels in mid-bass impact. 5. Technologies and Applications: While both the E112 and W7 feature JL Audio’s patented driver technologies, the E112 incorporates additional features like: Advanced DSP (Digital Signal Processing) for room optimization. D.A.R.O. (Digital Automatic Room Optimization) for addressing room modes. The W7 is built for rugged durability and high output, with features like massive excursion and thermal handling for sustained performance in a car environment. Similarities: Driver Quality: Both use JL Audio’s top-tier driver engineering, delivering high-performance bass with low distortion. Build Excellence: Both are built with premium materials and meticulous craftsmanship, adhering to JL Audio’s high standards. Conclusion: The E112 and W7 are not interchangeable due to their specific designs and purposes. The E112 is ideal for home theater and music listening, providing refined, accurate bass tuned for a home environment. The W7, on the other hand, is built for the high-impact, loud bass demands of car audio. While they share a common engineering lineage, using a W7 in a home audio setup or an E112 in a car would result in suboptimal performance. Each excels in its intended environment. We are sure @jlaudioinc can confirm this even more-
Hi Tom, what would you advice for HT - 1 single unit of F112 or 2 units of E112? The room size is 12 ft wide 16 ft length and 10 ft height. I am running on 7.1.4 at the moment with a single unit of Revel Performa B15a. I am thinking of replacing Revel with JL Audi subs. Thanks.
@@KSYee-t4t Deep Dive: JL Audio Subwoofers and Their Suitability for Home Theater
I want to start by saying I love JL subwoofers. I have them in my showroom and in my personal home theater. I use the inwall product in my showroom and dual F112s in my personal theater. The Fathom is a reference level product. The most important difference between the Fathom and the E series is the advanced Digital Automatic Room Optimization (D.A.R.O.) This lets you adjust the sub to fit the room.
JL Audio Subwoofers:
• Fathom F112: Known for its precision and sheer output, the F112 features a 12-inch driver with a massive motor system, delivering deep, articulate bass. It’s a sealed subwoofer, which means it’s designed for tight, accurate low-frequency reproduction. It’s powered by a 1,500-watt RMS amplifier, and its advanced Digital Automatic Room Optimization (D.A.R.O.) ensures it can adapt to room acoustics effectively.
• E112: A more affordable option in JL Audio’s lineup, the E112 also features a 12-inch driver but with a slightly less powerful 1,200-watt RMS amplifier. It provides excellent bass output and clarity but lacks the Fathom’s advanced room calibration features like D.A.R.O. Despite this, the E112 is a strong performer, especially in dual configurations.
Key Factors for Your Room and System:
1. Room Size (1,920 cubic feet):
o At this size, a single high-performance subwoofer like the F112 can produce sufficient SPL (sound pressure level) and extension for impactful bass. You can always add a second subwoofer if you feel the need.
o However, dual subwoofers (E112 pair) can provide smoother bass response by mitigating room modes and ensuring more consistent low-frequency distribution across the room.
2. Listening Preferences:
o If your priority is ultra-precise bass with advanced room correction and a focus on reference-level performance, the F112 is hard to beat.
o If you value room-filling bass with smoother distribution at a similar cost, dual E112 units might be the better choice.
Recommendation:
My recommendation depends on how you answer the following question:
Criteria for Acoustical Performance (Audio Quality)
Audio Performance Requirements (please choose one):
❑ Excellent (suitable for critical music listening; near-studio quality)
❑ Very Good (good for film soundtracks; good for music but not suitable for critical listening)
❑ Adequate (subordinate to aesthetic criteria)
If you answer Excellent or Very Good, get the Fathom F112 it is a superior sub to the E-112. If, down the road, you feel the need, you can add a second Fathom. Yes, I understand that the Fathom is a lot more money, but it is worth it!
Thank you for your question and best wishes this holiday season!
Regards,
Tom
Could you make a similar video of the Paradigm XR13? I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
We are sorry we didnt respond earlier, if we can create any videos to assist you please let us know Tom@BravoAV.com
How much?
about $5,000
@Gadgetlava where can I buy it
@@tle1015 contact your local hifi supplier. I'd rather get an SVS tho tbh, better value for money.
How much this one
Focus is your friend on the closeup 🙄🤦♂️
That is just a w7 subwoofer they use in car audio.
The JL Audio E112 home subwoofer and the W7 car audio subwoofer share some DNA in terms of engineering excellence, but they are not the same and are purpose-built for vastly different applications. Here’s a breakdown:
Key Differences Between E112 and W7:
1. Purpose and Design Philosophy:
E112 (Home Subwoofer):
Designed for home audio and theater applications where sound quality, accuracy, and room integration are critical.
Prioritizes tight, controlled bass with low distortion and a frequency response optimized for reproducing music and cinematic effects.
Incorporates features like a built-in amplifier (1,200 watts RMS) and sealed enclosure for precise bass response in living spaces.
W7 (Car Audio Subwoofer):
Engineered for car audio systems, focusing on high-output, impact, and the ability to operate in a noisy, small cabin environment.
Features proprietary technologies like DMA (Dynamic Motor Analysis) and OverRoll™ surrounds to handle extreme excursion and high
SPL (sound pressure levels).
Requires an external amplifier and is commonly used in vented or sealed enclosures designed for car acoustics.
2. Power and Amplification:
E112:
Self-contained with an integrated 1,200-watt RMS amplifier.
Tuned to match the driver and enclosure perfectly, ensuring optimal performance in a home setting.
W7:
Requires a separate external amplifier (power recommendations vary by model, e.g., 500-1,000 watts RMS for the 12W7).
Its power needs are tailored for car audio systems, often designed to run on 12V electrical systems.
3. Enclosure Design:
E112:
Housed in a sealed, acoustically optimized cabinet for clean, tight bass without resonances.
Designed for home audio room acoustics, with aesthetics to blend into living spaces.
W7:
Requires a custom-built enclosure (sealed or vented) tailored to specific car audio setups.
The design allows for high-output bass in the confined space of a car cabin.\
4. Frequency Response and Performance:
E112:
Extended low-frequency response, often dipping below 20 Hz, optimized for music and movie LFE (Low-Frequency Effects).
Prioritizes fidelity and flat response.
W7:
Focused on producing punchy, impactful bass at higher SPL levels, tailored to car cabin acoustics.
Not designed for ultra-deep bass extension but excels in mid-bass impact.
5. Technologies and Applications:
While both the E112 and W7 feature JL Audio’s patented driver technologies, the E112 incorporates additional features like:
Advanced DSP (Digital Signal Processing) for room optimization.
D.A.R.O. (Digital Automatic Room Optimization) for addressing room modes.
The W7 is built for rugged durability and high output, with features like massive excursion and thermal handling for sustained performance in a car environment.
Similarities:
Driver Quality: Both use JL Audio’s top-tier driver engineering, delivering high-performance bass with low distortion.
Build Excellence: Both are built with premium materials and meticulous craftsmanship, adhering to JL Audio’s high standards.
Conclusion:
The E112 and W7 are not interchangeable due to their specific designs and purposes. The E112 is ideal for home theater and music listening, providing refined, accurate bass tuned for a home environment. The W7, on the other hand, is built for the high-impact, loud bass demands of car audio.
While they share a common engineering lineage, using a W7 in a home audio setup or an E112 in a car would result in suboptimal performance. Each excels in its intended environment. We are sure @jlaudioinc can confirm this even more-
@ I was joking. I know the difference in the subwoofers. I am a big fan of jl audio but I use velodyne in my theater.
@ L O V E Velodyne!!